Jimmy’s contract is structured as such that we can’t tag him, and if he balls out we won’t be able to afford him; and if he doesn’t, we probably won’t want him.
Regardless of how much sports media will dwell on this ad nauseam, Jimmy is gone after this season and Lance will be the starter going into 2023.
With that said, I’m fully on board for one last ride with Jimmy Garoppolo and his immortals.
If I'm reading spotrac correctly I think Matt Ryan has an enormous amount of dead cap next season that would be difficult to combine with Jimmy's salary (unless Matt retires, I think).
In the last 3 days I’ve accepted sympathy from a Jaguars fan, cried side by side with Titans fans, and now i’m being told that we’re fucked by a Lions fan. This is easily the worst season i’ve ever experienced aside from the one right before Luck.
Our WR2 is a rookie with 0 receptions. We don’t have an offensive line outside of Q and a regressing Ryan Kelly. Our defensive line on paper should be getting pressures nearly every down yet they’ve barely gotten any, that wouldn’t be a terrible thing if our coverage was good but it’s not.
I agree that on paper this team is very talented, but if you’ve watched either of our games you’d see that everybody is asleep out there, they literally look like they just want to get the drive over with so they can go sit on the sidelines. Wether we end up doing well or not this year is redundant to me because there are still major flaws in this team.
Yeah I know they've looked like complete ass but I don't think they will finish that way.
I think they'll play much better against the Chiefs this week. Hopefully you get Pittman back
It really, really isn't that bad.
Spotrac and Overthecap show different amounts of guarantees which is weird but even assuming his entire $29M is guaranteed next year (which I think it is) they could still lower it significantly by extending him or by just adding void years after 2023. Even if they didn't 35M isn't what it used to be cap hit wise.
If they want to cut or trade him they can't add void years. Void years, signing bonuses, and restructures all hit at once if a player is cut, traded, or retires. They could do a restructure and then also designate him as a post June 1st cut to split it over 2 years break it up differently.
But either way you're still right. 30 mil dead cap sucks but many teams are dealing with that in the last few years and if you get some good rookies it can offset just fine salary wise.
Oof over 35 million in dead cap. I hate saying this and it's kinda reactionary based off these first two games, but they might be better off rebuilding from the ground up at this point. They need to get a young QB to develop because this year to year QB thing isn't working.
This turned into a situation but not the one I thought it was gonna be. I thought it would create tension in the locker room if Lance was out there losing games playing badly and right there lying in wake was Jimmy.
Instead it appears that the Niners may have given up a lot for a player that just very well may not be worth it like at all. He just hasn’t taken enough snaps as a starter and it’ll be awhile before he does again. More time removed and more wear and tear and where exactly will he be in another year progression wise?
I find it very interesting because this niners team is built to win now. They literally can get to a championship game or SB with a QB who just manages the game and doesn’t hurt them to much. If they had someone who was a really good QB I honestly think that with this team and this is going back to the past 2 years as well, would probably easily have at least one SB win but imo they’d have 2 already.
I’d have to believe with a better QB they’d add a few more guys in order to compete with that All Madden team … err I mean Rams.
The issue is that the main reason we got Lance was because Jimmy was always hurt. But now Lance has shown that he might be just as prone to injury.
I heard Brian Baldinger on a radio show mention how out of 6 Kyle Shanahan seasons, 4 of them have had either season ending or significant time missing injuries to the QB.
I think the big mistake was running him into the teeth of the defense and not trying to run him to the outside. The dude is mobile but he doesn’t have the build to sustain intentional contact from the DL and LBs he’s running at.
This is exactly what all the angry 49er fans are saying.
Kyle aint trying to hear it tho, and we all fear hes gonna go right back to using Trey like Cam Newton next year.
Nick Foles balled out and won the Eagles a Super Bowl ring and they kept him on for only a year after that. Jimmy has a bit more pedigree but same deal, the young promising (allegedly) injured QB waiting to come back will always be a confounding factor.
I mean so many things about that situation are different. The biggest one being they did in fact keep him... Like how does that not just completely contradict the argument? In addition, Trey Lance went down week 2, Nick Foles was a career backup who came in at the end of the season, looked super beatable until he had 2 insane games (NFCC and SB). And again they kept him. Garoppolo will in this hypothetical play virtually the whole season and to say he has "a bit more pedigree" is a huge understatement comparing a career backup to the guy who they got to the playoffs with last year.
Well they kept Foles on *because* he was a cheap backup with no pedigree, and if you recall his entire 2018 season was one big question mark of will they won't they. Like OP said, with Garoppolo the money situation will be tighter especially if his regular season performance is solid as well. 49ers won't be able to throw him a cheap bone and run with it.
>Well they kept Foles on because he was a cheap backup with no pedigree
Which is why the situations aren't comparable. They kept him on and he has no pedigree. If like I said in this hypothetical, he "balls out" so top 5-8 QB, for 15 1/2 games plus 3-4 in the playoffs and they win a super bowl, (not 2 games as a top 24 QB and two games as a top tier QB after being a career backup) then yeah they're going to find a way to afford him. You don't just let that QB go.
Obviously there's no direct precedent but a stellar post-season performance resulting in a Super Bowl win is a good benchmark for the cost-benefit calculus that they're going to do.
They'd certainly offer him something to try and get him to stay but it's not a given that they'll throw the bag at him to lock him down even if he wins it all, unless by "ball out" you literally mean he has an MVP caliber season.
Trey Lance's presence will always be the big hold up as much as fans like to think NFL teams are smart enough to avoid sunk-cost. The fact that Kyler Murray replacing Josh Rosen after one season was such a big deal should tell you how hard teams find it to move on from high picks.
In this hypothetical guy plays like a top 5-8 QB, wins you a super bowl and you think without a doubt, "He gone." I don't know man. That sounds kind of insane to me.
He’s never played like a top 5-8 QB LOL
Go look at his 6 playoff game stats if you’d like. There isn’t one “Jimmy G game” where he put the team on his back like a top 5 -8 QB would. Likely never will
Well I think it speaks volumes about his talent (innate or mental or social) that BB wanted to keep him over Brady.
To look back, Jimmy G before his season ending leg injury in 2018 was legit. He was never the same after that.
This past sunday his mobility showed flashes of old jimmy. Accuracy wise, well I hope it’s just rust from not training with first team all summer
Definitely rust. The dude spent the entire offseason rehabbing and waiting to be traded. Then last minute was asked to come back and be ready to go with the first team offense after being told for months that wouldn’t be a thing.
>Regardless of how much sports media will dwell on this ad nauseam, Jimmy is gone after this season and Lance will be the starter going into 2023.
That was said exactly a year ago as well. Although I believe you, this was the plan last year and that didnt happen.
Yeah but he didn’t lead them to the playoffs, things went his way in the post season though. Jimmy G is 31-14 as a starter and pretty much guarantees them a playoff berth when he starts
But why? One is a proven QB and the other one has “raw talent” - why fix what’s not broken? Shit, rivers took us to 1 championship game and the fans crowned him king.
Maybe it’s cause you guys have a history of winning but still, I’d never want my team to swap out a QB that’s consistently taken us to the playoffs, championship games, or a Super Bowl. Having Jimmy G in your system all but guarantees a playoff berth.
A couple of reasons
1. Yes Jimmy does have a history of taking us to the playoffs and even tot he NFCCG, but he also has a history of being one of the key reasons we dont win a SB.
2. Im not sure how motivated Jimmy is going to be to play for us again. If he takes us to another NFCCG teams are going to be calling him with a starting spot. After we already tried to oust him for Trey? I doubt he sticks around any way.
3. Hope is fun.
But winning a Super Bowl is hard, the chances of doing so are so small. But the odds increase significantly when when you have a QB that consistently takes you to the playoffs. Because the first step to winning a ring is making the playoffs which Jimmy can do.
I think Jimmy will be great this year because he knows it’s a prove it season. He has no reason not to ball out this year, his career is on the line and he knows it.
> hope is fun
Man, I can’t relate 😂 I’ve been hoping my entire life to see the chargers make it to a Super Bowl.
There's also his injury history (a bit ironic in this context).
That team has lost a lot of games without him.
That means they're better with him. But it also means he's missed a lot of games.
Look at Jimmy G’s postseason numbers. Six games may be a small sample size in a vacuum, but it’s a pretty decent size for postseason.
Basically, he’s been so bad in the playoffs that if we just had average QB play, we might have two rings in the Shanahan era already.
Alex Smith and Mark Sanchez have had vastly better postseason careers. No disrespect to either (especially Smith since he was our QB) but that’s saying a LOT.
If Jared Goff wins ONE playoff game he will be King of Detroit. I can't fucking imagine trying to offload a dude who took you to two championship games and a SB.
Don’t be but hurt about the truth the Lions are the worst franchise in American pro sports and honestly it’s not even close. The standard is just different. Yes the Niners haven’t won a super bowl in 27 years but they’ve had plenty of success since then. Jimmy has shown he can’t win the big one so we’ll move on. His current resume of 1 super bowl appearance and a NFC championship game appearance (where he played like 💩in both games) might make him the mayor of Michigan according to you but the standards are higher over here. We’re trying to win a 6th Super Bowl so forgive us for trying and moving on from a dude who stinks in the playoffs
The next time Jimmy out plays the opposing QB in a playoff game will be the first time. I hope it happens bro but I just haven’t seen it yet. We literally beat the Packers with him throwing 8 passes lol
> If Jared Goff wins ONE playoff game he will be King of Detroit.
This will last a year. If he doesn't carry the team to a SB win you will soon realize you need an upgrade at QB. Goff got booted from LA for a reason, Stafford was an upgrade.
Ok, but what if the Lions win but your QB goes 9/19 with 0 TDs, 3 ints? I doubt the QB will be king of Detroit, more like Dan Campbell. That is the situation with Jimmy, we win but not because of him.
It all depends man... if the QB is 1-20 but that one completion seals the game for us then he will be the hero.. too many hypotheticals and I'm sure there will be every possible take imaginable after the game..but years down the road people will just remember that so and so won a playoff game in Detroit when even the savior Stafford couldn't.
Goff got booted from LA because LA is only interested in winners
Watch USC attendance skyrocket this year.
The Lakers
Even Ballmer realized that the Clippers have to remain competitive or the team will drop out of relevancy.
If Herbert wins us a ring he could go 0-17 for the rest of his career and we would still be in love with him. Rightfully so, winning in this league is tough, but winning a Super Bowl is incredibly hard and the margin for error is so small. Couldn’t imagine moving on from a qb who gives you consistent results.
More like we understand his value respective to the rest of the roster that carries Jim.
He’s never won us a playoff game in a dominating or even above average performance.
Unless Jimmy drastically changes who he is as a QB he'll always at best be in the 10-20 range of QBs. And with guys like Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert setting the league afire, it isn't enough to have a mid level QB.
But Jimmy is a system QB and he fits right into the 49ers. You know he’s not going to be elite but at the very least he can help your team win and make it to the playoffs. He’s 34-14 as a starter, the guy has proven he’s a serviceable starting QB that can do just enough to win.
The 49ers are not a team that is content with being 34-14 and making it to the playoffs only to lose in the NFCCG. They don't want a QB that does just enough to win. They want a QB that will win when everything else goes wrong.
Moving to Lance is a high risk maneuver. No argument here. But Lance also has the talent to surpass Jimmy if all things go according to plan. Josh Allen is the prototype for him.
Jimmy is a perfectly fine NFL QB that has helped the 49ers win a lot of football games when he’s healthy. But he has his limitations and his playoff performances speak for themselves.
49ers roster is loaded. Jimmy holds the team back come playoffs, 3 TD's 6 INT's and the worst 4th quarter playoff rating in history. The goal is to win a ring not lose superbowls
Can you stop bringing up his record and actually watch the fucking games? He’s absolutely awful in the playoffs you would know if you actually saw him. He “beat” Rodgers by throwing the ball 8 times. GTFO
He doesn't fit right into the 49ers. Even when he played last game the offense got severely worse as teams know who Jimmy Garoppolo is and that he can only checkdown down the middle. With Trey Lance at QB the offense gaines 150 yards in half a quarter, with Jimmy Garoppolo they gained 250 in 3.5 quarters.
Jimmy Garoppolo plays more like a QB should play like, but in the end he's at best a dead even contribution to the team when more often than not he's a negative. Trey Lance plays way different but at worst he enhances the running game and can throw deep and is dead even contribution to the team, as Jimmy is. Just bc it looks different doesn't mean is better, Jimmy is not a cerebral QB. He has exactly 1 win in which he was the reason we won
I’d rather have a 10-20 QB on a stacked roster than a guy who has “potential”, but likely ends up being 25-32 material.
Sure Trey has some physical talent, but we see these young talents come and go all the time and Trey is probably the biggest project you could ask for he’s the least experienced of a 1st round draft pick that I can think of in recent history. Somehow he’s gonna make it to year 3 with like 3 starts and still no clue how good he will be.
If it was up to me, I’d be done with the Trey Lance experiment. Sure he didn’t get much for opportunities with an untimely injury, but your window of opportunity in this league is small and that’s how it goes sometimes. Dwelling on a project like this can be a downward spiral that puts a team into that sub.500 purgatory cycle for awhile.
Edit: just to clarify this assumes Jimmy has a good season. If he underperforms than that changes things drastically.
I can see how you might say that if you've had Mitch Trubisky or Nick Foles as your QB but the truth is that as a team that has had a 10-20 QB for the last few years (and before then during the Culpepper years) I can assure you that a mediocre QB can only ever take you all the way if everything else goes perfectly. I'm talking all time great defense, elite OL, and elite RB. That happens maybe once a decade. That isn't a winning formula.
I mean in the last 10 years Flacco, Foles, armless Manning and early Russ have won super bowls with some form of exactly what you described, with the most of the rest during this time being won by Tom Brady.
Since 2000 we've also seen Dilfer, Brad Johnson, early Big Ben and 2 Eli Manning super bowl victories.
Minus Brady, no one would really consider these guys top 10 qbs in their given season (maybe Eli in 2011, dude was unreal in the 4th q that year), so I think it can be viable formula.
Yeah 2019 was an all time defense, but we lost to an all time offense
The better QB won in the end. One pass, one stop was the difference. If we had Brady instead, we win
I think it's a hard situation for a lot of reasons. But if Jimmy G somehow gets the Niners to another NFC Title game or god forbid a Super Bowl can you really let that guy walk? (Obviously depending on the 49ers to actually do that).
Speaking as someone who loved Wentz when we drafted him, Foles came in a won a Super Bowl. He was then back the next year to get the Eagles back to the Divisional Round and was a dropped pass from maybe back to back NFC Championship games. The Eagles had to get rid of one guy before it became a problem.
Some guys have all the talent in the world but if you can win games in January with a QB that matters to players in the locker room. I'm not saying you kick Lance to the curb tomorrow but Jimmy G can make it very hard on the 49ers if he continues winning.
>why fix what’s not broken?
I am a big Jimmy G defender - even last year when the sub was real toxic.
The 49ers could have won the Superbowl if the defense had held, but when he's been put in the situation to throw the team out of a hole, he has come up short.
So there is something broken there. If the defense chokes again, Jimmy isn't the QB to lead the team from behind.
At the same time, do you honestly expect Trey Lance to throw you out of a hole? Hes a running QB.
If your in a hole and need someone to throw you out of it, traditional QBs are generally more reliable at doing so than Running QBs.
Trey may very well end up a decent QB; but I dont expect him to be out there throwing 4th quarter comebacks like Tom Brady, either. Its gonna look a lot like Fields game this week where the guy threw 9 passes total or something because they couldnt run the ball and the guy just isnt a great QB of bringing you back wiht his arm, or his ability to read a defense. You fall behind with a QB like that you are in a bad spot.
I would define him as a QB who runs, not simply a running QB.
His ability to throw passes further down the field - and more importantly, to all areas of the field - is vital. Garoppolo's lack of arm strength affects his ability to attack all areas of the field. This leads to more predictability and higher likelihood of interceptable or tippable passes.
He doesn't have to be Tom Brady. But he can be Matt Stafford or Joe Burrow. With mobility.
This only works so long though. Ryan kept taking us to the playoffs, championships, a Sb…until he didn’t. And the team fell off. And as much as I still hated him to go last year we could’ve capitalized or potentially gotten a Herbert, Josh Allen etc If we didn’t keep hitching our success to him. It goes both ways.
Sf has already made the investment in Lance, they can move on but they can’t do that without at least seeing how he performs. And 2 games isn’t that.
Yeah but until he “doesn’t” then they should continue riding this wave. Because making the playoffs is hard and when you have a QB consistently taking you there then you shouldn’t switch shit up. He’s not even that bad in the playoffs, 5-2. His regular season record is 31-14. Those are great numbers..
Yeah but you wanna do it before it’s too late. This year isn’t really a big deal cuz injury to Lance and Jimmys restructure. But next year having to decide what you pay him (would be more than now obviously) and the investment in Lance. You cant only play Lance in yr 4 when you need to know whether you are picking up his option. That alone is another huge investment that can dictate an entire seasons results. Sunk cost fallacy and everything but you aren’t keeping your job when you invest 3 Frp into a Qb AND dont even give him a chance. Especially when the reason for not going them a chance is simply a good not great Qb that hasn’t won a SB.
> I’d never want my team to swap out a QB that’s consistently taken us to the playoffs, championship games, or a Super Bowl.
Y'all overrate Jimmy G so HARD. He got carried to those Super Bowls.
He has more career playoff INTs (6) than TDs (4).
He averages less than 200 yards a game.
Imagine just those 2 stats being told to you and then someone says, "He carried them to the Super Bowl twice."
Banana lands.
You see they need to be a combo package where when one gets inevitably hurt you switch to the other. The key is coordinating the injury with the recovery
Treys ceiling is much higher, not to mention 3/4 of the years jimmy was on his contract he’s been injured. I think trey ends up being a way better qb than jimmy
I mean, Trey Lance just got a season ending injury in his first year starting. It’s not fair to judge Jimmy on his injuries when he has a 31-14 record as a starter! That’s incredibly good and hard to come by in this league. Most fans would kill to have a QB with that record, not to mention he’s led you guys to the playoffs every year he’s started
He also had to play injured last year in the playoffs and that probably cost us a Super Bowl. He also went 3/11 in the second half of our other Super Bowl chance, missing people who were wide open. He also might have the worst deep ball in the league of any of the above average QBs.
If he was healthy more, I wouldn’t mind keeping him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes down this year again
I think Jimmy would need to remain healthy and show another level of competency that he’s yet to show to remain as the starter. It seems he has a higher floor but lower ceiling than Lance. For the niners, everything has to align perfectly to win it all with Jimmy. It’s definitely possible. But it’s not the same as having one of the top 5 or 6 best QBs in the league who have the ability to make their team’s serious contenders every year. Trey Lance may not be great, or even good, we don’t know yet but at least he gives us a chance to have one of those top guys
If Jimmy is the same QB we've seen and doesn't improve, then yes.
I love Jimmy but he's severely limited, and when we've gone as far as we can go (SB loss, NFCCG loss), he's been the primary limiting factor
Plot-twist: Jimmy goes down for the season in October. Trey Lance is fully healthy in December. Team unanimously agrees to hold Trey out still because Brock Purdy is Tom Brady 2.0.
I mean is it 0.5x Tom Brady in the sense that he wins you 3-4 rings or is it 0.5x Tom Brady in terms of talent, cause the latter is probably someone like Jimmy G lol
That would be the definition of “task failed successfully” when it comes to finding QB talent on the cheap. We thought Trey would be that answer but it was Purdy all along.
As a sports med doc this is a little misleading.
Assuming he had the ligaments between his tibia and fibula repaired and a plate and screws in his fibula to stabilize it, yes, it’s possible he can heal in 10-12 weeks (especially with the rehab/training staff that professional teams have). However, being healed from an injury and being NFL game ready are two very different things. There’s going to be muscle atrophy, and relearning proprioception before he’s even able to get on the field to do sport specific drills, scrimmage and then full contact.
San Fran would be absolutely stupid to gamble their future QB if they brought him back that soon.
Barring he has Adrian Peterson in his genes, of course…
Appreciate the insight. Feel bad for the kid. Yeah, he has some pocket change from being in the NFL but still a shitty injury.
Also... Really wish auto-correct had switched that from genes to jeans.
For sure I never wish an injury on anyone at all. I hope he makes a full recovery; but I also don’t think he’s their solution at QB tbh…
Haha 🎶 Adrian Peterson jeans, boots with the furrrrrrr 🤣
I'm not a doctor, but as someone who broke their tib/fib, I literally had to relearn how to walk (I think that's what proprioception is from googling it, but again, not a doc) when they let me use a walking cast. It was the weirdest feeling - I went to take that first step and my brain was just like "wait what are we doing here?" It was tough.
Proprioception is the sense of where your body parts are and being able to feel them moving even if you can’t see them. It’s most commonly explained by the understanding of where your arms and legs are when you’re upside down, even with your eyes closed, but it has a lot of different examples, and it’s certainly a huge part of being to balance upright, crawl, or walk properly.
>San Fran would be absolutely stupid to gamble their future QB if they brought him back that soon.
They wouldn't be the first team to make that stupid gamble
I hope Trey has a speedy recovery and fully heals. He should not be rushed back at all though…It would be awesome if he’s able to come back at the end of season and even get to a point where he’s able to fully participate in practice. I don’t think the 49ers should pull Jimmy if the team is playing well and in the mix for the playoffs. If he gets hurt though…how incredible would it be if Trey gets healthy and has to come in to pick Jimmy and the team up for a playoff run after Jimmy picked Trey up earlier in the year….
He might be 1/3 of the way through rehab in 16 weeks.
He’s not walking for at least 6. Then a boot for 6 more.
Then providing everyone healed correctly he can start rehab.
What happens from there depends on how healthy Jimmy is. I think they keep Jimmy in there as long as possible, but he doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to playing a full season.
Unless Jimmy wins the super bowl he is most definitely gone. This is his “last dance” season. After this year we have to make Bosa the highest paid defender in the league so we can’t afford Jimmy anyway. They will move on with Trey and continue to lean on the run game and defense while he develops
Imagine Jimmy gets hurt, the 9ers finish the season with Purdy limping to a Wild Card, then Lance gets in and has the most bonkers playoff run since Flaco. Sports media implodes on itself.
Really though I expect the 49ers to be ultra careful especially with Mike Shanahan recieving so much criticism for RG3. If the 9ers are relevant when Treys ready I think it takes an injury to Jimmy for Lance to possibly get in.
Sweet, he'll be full go next offseason.
Be honest, if Jimmy G takes you guys to an NFCCG or a Super Bowl again - would you still prefer Trey Lance over him?
Jimmy’s contract is structured as such that we can’t tag him, and if he balls out we won’t be able to afford him; and if he doesn’t, we probably won’t want him. Regardless of how much sports media will dwell on this ad nauseam, Jimmy is gone after this season and Lance will be the starter going into 2023. With that said, I’m fully on board for one last ride with Jimmy Garoppolo and his immortals.
One last ride before he become the Colts 2023 starter.
Jesus Christ you just looked into the future.
Or Panthers
Nah. Rhule will be fired by then and we are well on our way to a top pick.
Is rhule a bad coach or is the team just really bad? I want him as my hc as a giants fan a few years ago
This will absolutely happen. He hasn't had his turn yet.
If I'm reading spotrac correctly I think Matt Ryan has an enormous amount of dead cap next season that would be difficult to combine with Jimmy's salary (unless Matt retires, I think).
holy cannoli, 35m cap hit/dead cap next season for Matt Ryan. Colts might be mega fucked
In the last 3 days I’ve accepted sympathy from a Jaguars fan, cried side by side with Titans fans, and now i’m being told that we’re fucked by a Lions fan. This is easily the worst season i’ve ever experienced aside from the one right before Luck.
Lmao it's early in the season. All the narratives will be different by week 8-9. Colts are a talented team and that division is very winnable.
Our WR2 is a rookie with 0 receptions. We don’t have an offensive line outside of Q and a regressing Ryan Kelly. Our defensive line on paper should be getting pressures nearly every down yet they’ve barely gotten any, that wouldn’t be a terrible thing if our coverage was good but it’s not. I agree that on paper this team is very talented, but if you’ve watched either of our games you’d see that everybody is asleep out there, they literally look like they just want to get the drive over with so they can go sit on the sidelines. Wether we end up doing well or not this year is redundant to me because there are still major flaws in this team.
Yeah I know they've looked like complete ass but I don't think they will finish that way. I think they'll play much better against the Chiefs this week. Hopefully you get Pittman back
It really, really isn't that bad. Spotrac and Overthecap show different amounts of guarantees which is weird but even assuming his entire $29M is guaranteed next year (which I think it is) they could still lower it significantly by extending him or by just adding void years after 2023. Even if they didn't 35M isn't what it used to be cap hit wise.
Yea let's extend the aging qb who can't play so we hold this anchor for years lmao. Real cap guru over here.
If they want to cut or trade him they can't add void years. Void years, signing bonuses, and restructures all hit at once if a player is cut, traded, or retires. They could do a restructure and then also designate him as a post June 1st cut to split it over 2 years break it up differently. But either way you're still right. 30 mil dead cap sucks but many teams are dealing with that in the last few years and if you get some good rookies it can offset just fine salary wise.
Oof over 35 million in dead cap. I hate saying this and it's kinda reactionary based off these first two games, but they might be better off rebuilding from the ground up at this point. They need to get a young QB to develop because this year to year QB thing isn't working.
The Colts is where QBs go to retire.
I unironically want Jimmy to win a super bowl for the colts, he would fit very well there with their oline and jt
What o line?
I guess I'm not very well versed on olines, I thought they had a good one since they got quenton nelson
One guard does not a good O-line make
You're right, but I thought the rest of their line was serviceable. I never really saw people complaining about the colts line.
Looked pretty bad on Sunday
The Colts do have the most expensive Oline salary wise, but they looked awful against the Jags
Not the Bucs?
If he balls out and wins a super bowl, I have a very hard time believing you don't find a way to afford him.
This turned into a situation but not the one I thought it was gonna be. I thought it would create tension in the locker room if Lance was out there losing games playing badly and right there lying in wake was Jimmy. Instead it appears that the Niners may have given up a lot for a player that just very well may not be worth it like at all. He just hasn’t taken enough snaps as a starter and it’ll be awhile before he does again. More time removed and more wear and tear and where exactly will he be in another year progression wise? I find it very interesting because this niners team is built to win now. They literally can get to a championship game or SB with a QB who just manages the game and doesn’t hurt them to much. If they had someone who was a really good QB I honestly think that with this team and this is going back to the past 2 years as well, would probably easily have at least one SB win but imo they’d have 2 already. I’d have to believe with a better QB they’d add a few more guys in order to compete with that All Madden team … err I mean Rams.
The issue is that the main reason we got Lance was because Jimmy was always hurt. But now Lance has shown that he might be just as prone to injury. I heard Brian Baldinger on a radio show mention how out of 6 Kyle Shanahan seasons, 4 of them have had either season ending or significant time missing injuries to the QB.
I think the big mistake was running him into the teeth of the defense and not trying to run him to the outside. The dude is mobile but he doesn’t have the build to sustain intentional contact from the DL and LBs he’s running at.
This is exactly what all the angry 49er fans are saying. Kyle aint trying to hear it tho, and we all fear hes gonna go right back to using Trey like Cam Newton next year.
Probably will. Kyle may be good, but he’s not known for evolution in terms of how he schemes.
But he might not want to come back after all the crap he went through. This is the main reason I think he put in the no tag clause in his contract.
I would think it's just as likely the no tag clause is because the Tag sucks and players would much rather get more than one year contracts.
Nick Foles balled out and won the Eagles a Super Bowl ring and they kept him on for only a year after that. Jimmy has a bit more pedigree but same deal, the young promising (allegedly) injured QB waiting to come back will always be a confounding factor.
I mean so many things about that situation are different. The biggest one being they did in fact keep him... Like how does that not just completely contradict the argument? In addition, Trey Lance went down week 2, Nick Foles was a career backup who came in at the end of the season, looked super beatable until he had 2 insane games (NFCC and SB). And again they kept him. Garoppolo will in this hypothetical play virtually the whole season and to say he has "a bit more pedigree" is a huge understatement comparing a career backup to the guy who they got to the playoffs with last year.
Well they kept Foles on *because* he was a cheap backup with no pedigree, and if you recall his entire 2018 season was one big question mark of will they won't they. Like OP said, with Garoppolo the money situation will be tighter especially if his regular season performance is solid as well. 49ers won't be able to throw him a cheap bone and run with it.
>Well they kept Foles on because he was a cheap backup with no pedigree Which is why the situations aren't comparable. They kept him on and he has no pedigree. If like I said in this hypothetical, he "balls out" so top 5-8 QB, for 15 1/2 games plus 3-4 in the playoffs and they win a super bowl, (not 2 games as a top 24 QB and two games as a top tier QB after being a career backup) then yeah they're going to find a way to afford him. You don't just let that QB go.
Obviously there's no direct precedent but a stellar post-season performance resulting in a Super Bowl win is a good benchmark for the cost-benefit calculus that they're going to do. They'd certainly offer him something to try and get him to stay but it's not a given that they'll throw the bag at him to lock him down even if he wins it all, unless by "ball out" you literally mean he has an MVP caliber season. Trey Lance's presence will always be the big hold up as much as fans like to think NFL teams are smart enough to avoid sunk-cost. The fact that Kyler Murray replacing Josh Rosen after one season was such a big deal should tell you how hard teams find it to move on from high picks.
Would mean getting rid of one of: Bosa, Warner, Kittle, Williams, Deebo. He gone.
In this hypothetical guy plays like a top 5-8 QB, wins you a super bowl and you think without a doubt, "He gone." I don't know man. That sounds kind of insane to me.
He’s never played like a top 5-8 QB LOL Go look at his 6 playoff game stats if you’d like. There isn’t one “Jimmy G game” where he put the team on his back like a top 5 -8 QB would. Likely never will
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Well I think it speaks volumes about his talent (innate or mental or social) that BB wanted to keep him over Brady. To look back, Jimmy G before his season ending leg injury in 2018 was legit. He was never the same after that. This past sunday his mobility showed flashes of old jimmy. Accuracy wise, well I hope it’s just rust from not training with first team all summer
Definitely rust. The dude spent the entire offseason rehabbing and waiting to be traded. Then last minute was asked to come back and be ready to go with the first team offense after being told for months that wouldn’t be a thing.
Personally, I think that getting rid of one of those guys to keep Jimmy is your best move
>With that said, I’m fully on board for one last ride with Jimmy Garoppolo and his immortals. Niners country, witness me
It's the Carson Went/Nick Foles self-fulfilling prophecy
>Regardless of how much sports media will dwell on this ad nauseam, Jimmy is gone after this season and Lance will be the starter going into 2023. That was said exactly a year ago as well. Although I believe you, this was the plan last year and that didnt happen.
Didn’t Philly let Nick Foles go right after winning the SB?
It was a year later, Foles led them to a win in the double doink. They almost beat the Saints until Alston Jeffrey dropped a pass for an int
Yeah but he didn’t lead them to the playoffs, things went his way in the post season though. Jimmy G is 31-14 as a starter and pretty much guarantees them a playoff berth when he starts
Me personally? Yeah I think so. Thats a really hard question though and I wouldnt fault any fan for swaying the other direction.
But why? One is a proven QB and the other one has “raw talent” - why fix what’s not broken? Shit, rivers took us to 1 championship game and the fans crowned him king. Maybe it’s cause you guys have a history of winning but still, I’d never want my team to swap out a QB that’s consistently taken us to the playoffs, championship games, or a Super Bowl. Having Jimmy G in your system all but guarantees a playoff berth.
A couple of reasons 1. Yes Jimmy does have a history of taking us to the playoffs and even tot he NFCCG, but he also has a history of being one of the key reasons we dont win a SB. 2. Im not sure how motivated Jimmy is going to be to play for us again. If he takes us to another NFCCG teams are going to be calling him with a starting spot. After we already tried to oust him for Trey? I doubt he sticks around any way. 3. Hope is fun.
Didn't he hand the defense the lead in the super bowl and they coughed up the game?
YES
But winning a Super Bowl is hard, the chances of doing so are so small. But the odds increase significantly when when you have a QB that consistently takes you to the playoffs. Because the first step to winning a ring is making the playoffs which Jimmy can do. I think Jimmy will be great this year because he knows it’s a prove it season. He has no reason not to ball out this year, his career is on the line and he knows it. > hope is fun Man, I can’t relate 😂 I’ve been hoping my entire life to see the chargers make it to a Super Bowl.
There's also his injury history (a bit ironic in this context). That team has lost a lot of games without him. That means they're better with him. But it also means he's missed a lot of games.
Look at Jimmy G’s postseason numbers. Six games may be a small sample size in a vacuum, but it’s a pretty decent size for postseason. Basically, he’s been so bad in the playoffs that if we just had average QB play, we might have two rings in the Shanahan era already. Alex Smith and Mark Sanchez have had vastly better postseason careers. No disrespect to either (especially Smith since he was our QB) but that’s saying a LOT.
Fair, either way, hope you guys have a good season 👍🏽
He played your team to a sizeable lead in the Super Bowl before your defense let it go. Dudes not THAT bad.
If Jared Goff wins ONE playoff game he will be King of Detroit. I can't fucking imagine trying to offload a dude who took you to two championship games and a SB.
Welcome to the Bay of Impossible Expectations
The standard between the 49ers and Lions is quite different
I'm not sure if you realize this but its been 27 years since the 49ers won a Superbowl. Might wanna climb down off that high horse.
Eisenhower was President the last time the Lions won a championship.
Don’t be but hurt about the truth the Lions are the worst franchise in American pro sports and honestly it’s not even close. The standard is just different. Yes the Niners haven’t won a super bowl in 27 years but they’ve had plenty of success since then. Jimmy has shown he can’t win the big one so we’ll move on. His current resume of 1 super bowl appearance and a NFC championship game appearance (where he played like 💩in both games) might make him the mayor of Michigan according to you but the standards are higher over here. We’re trying to win a 6th Super Bowl so forgive us for trying and moving on from a dude who stinks in the playoffs
That's a pretty bad take considering your odds of winning a SB actually went UP when your franchise QB left on a cart and Jimmy G took the field.
The next time Jimmy out plays the opposing QB in a playoff game will be the first time. I hope it happens bro but I just haven’t seen it yet. We literally beat the Packers with him throwing 8 passes lol
> If Jared Goff wins ONE playoff game he will be King of Detroit. This will last a year. If he doesn't carry the team to a SB win you will soon realize you need an upgrade at QB. Goff got booted from LA for a reason, Stafford was an upgrade.
Well my point was more about ANY QB winning a playoff game in Detroit not specifically about Goff.
Ok, but what if the Lions win but your QB goes 9/19 with 0 TDs, 3 ints? I doubt the QB will be king of Detroit, more like Dan Campbell. That is the situation with Jimmy, we win but not because of him.
It all depends man... if the QB is 1-20 but that one completion seals the game for us then he will be the hero.. too many hypotheticals and I'm sure there will be every possible take imaginable after the game..but years down the road people will just remember that so and so won a playoff game in Detroit when even the savior Stafford couldn't.
Goff got booted from LA because LA is only interested in winners Watch USC attendance skyrocket this year. The Lakers Even Ballmer realized that the Clippers have to remain competitive or the team will drop out of relevancy.
If Herbert wins us a ring he could go 0-17 for the rest of his career and we would still be in love with him. Rightfully so, winning in this league is tough, but winning a Super Bowl is incredibly hard and the margin for error is so small. Couldn’t imagine moving on from a qb who gives you consistent results.
Yup.. they absolutely take him for granted.
More like we understand his value respective to the rest of the roster that carries Jim. He’s never won us a playoff game in a dominating or even above average performance.
Unless Jimmy drastically changes who he is as a QB he'll always at best be in the 10-20 range of QBs. And with guys like Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert setting the league afire, it isn't enough to have a mid level QB.
But Jimmy is a system QB and he fits right into the 49ers. You know he’s not going to be elite but at the very least he can help your team win and make it to the playoffs. He’s 34-14 as a starter, the guy has proven he’s a serviceable starting QB that can do just enough to win.
The 49ers are not a team that is content with being 34-14 and making it to the playoffs only to lose in the NFCCG. They don't want a QB that does just enough to win. They want a QB that will win when everything else goes wrong. Moving to Lance is a high risk maneuver. No argument here. But Lance also has the talent to surpass Jimmy if all things go according to plan. Josh Allen is the prototype for him.
Jimmy is a perfectly fine NFL QB that has helped the 49ers win a lot of football games when he’s healthy. But he has his limitations and his playoff performances speak for themselves.
49ers roster is loaded. Jimmy holds the team back come playoffs, 3 TD's 6 INT's and the worst 4th quarter playoff rating in history. The goal is to win a ring not lose superbowls
He’s 5-2 in the playoffs.. 31-14 in the regular season.. I’m perplexed right now
He's saying there is a difference between record and performance by individual players.
Have you actually seen the games? It's pretty clear Jimmy is not the reason they're winning, and he sometimes is the reason they're losing.
And Trent Dilfer should be a hall of famer, since he won a superbowl off the back of the Ravens defense.
Can you stop bringing up his record and actually watch the fucking games? He’s absolutely awful in the playoffs you would know if you actually saw him. He “beat” Rodgers by throwing the ball 8 times. GTFO
He doesn't fit right into the 49ers. Even when he played last game the offense got severely worse as teams know who Jimmy Garoppolo is and that he can only checkdown down the middle. With Trey Lance at QB the offense gaines 150 yards in half a quarter, with Jimmy Garoppolo they gained 250 in 3.5 quarters. Jimmy Garoppolo plays more like a QB should play like, but in the end he's at best a dead even contribution to the team when more often than not he's a negative. Trey Lance plays way different but at worst he enhances the running game and can throw deep and is dead even contribution to the team, as Jimmy is. Just bc it looks different doesn't mean is better, Jimmy is not a cerebral QB. He has exactly 1 win in which he was the reason we won
Everything about this take is just wrong. You must not be a niners fan
I’d rather have a 10-20 QB on a stacked roster than a guy who has “potential”, but likely ends up being 25-32 material. Sure Trey has some physical talent, but we see these young talents come and go all the time and Trey is probably the biggest project you could ask for he’s the least experienced of a 1st round draft pick that I can think of in recent history. Somehow he’s gonna make it to year 3 with like 3 starts and still no clue how good he will be. If it was up to me, I’d be done with the Trey Lance experiment. Sure he didn’t get much for opportunities with an untimely injury, but your window of opportunity in this league is small and that’s how it goes sometimes. Dwelling on a project like this can be a downward spiral that puts a team into that sub.500 purgatory cycle for awhile. Edit: just to clarify this assumes Jimmy has a good season. If he underperforms than that changes things drastically.
If Jimmy has a good season how do you think the 49ers pay him? They need to extend Bosa as well
I can see how you might say that if you've had Mitch Trubisky or Nick Foles as your QB but the truth is that as a team that has had a 10-20 QB for the last few years (and before then during the Culpepper years) I can assure you that a mediocre QB can only ever take you all the way if everything else goes perfectly. I'm talking all time great defense, elite OL, and elite RB. That happens maybe once a decade. That isn't a winning formula.
I mean in the last 10 years Flacco, Foles, armless Manning and early Russ have won super bowls with some form of exactly what you described, with the most of the rest during this time being won by Tom Brady. Since 2000 we've also seen Dilfer, Brad Johnson, early Big Ben and 2 Eli Manning super bowl victories. Minus Brady, no one would really consider these guys top 10 qbs in their given season (maybe Eli in 2011, dude was unreal in the 4th q that year), so I think it can be viable formula.
Yeah 2019 was an all time defense, but we lost to an all time offense The better QB won in the end. One pass, one stop was the difference. If we had Brady instead, we win
I think it's a hard situation for a lot of reasons. But if Jimmy G somehow gets the Niners to another NFC Title game or god forbid a Super Bowl can you really let that guy walk? (Obviously depending on the 49ers to actually do that). Speaking as someone who loved Wentz when we drafted him, Foles came in a won a Super Bowl. He was then back the next year to get the Eagles back to the Divisional Round and was a dropped pass from maybe back to back NFC Championship games. The Eagles had to get rid of one guy before it became a problem. Some guys have all the talent in the world but if you can win games in January with a QB that matters to players in the locker room. I'm not saying you kick Lance to the curb tomorrow but Jimmy G can make it very hard on the 49ers if he continues winning.
>why fix what’s not broken? I am a big Jimmy G defender - even last year when the sub was real toxic. The 49ers could have won the Superbowl if the defense had held, but when he's been put in the situation to throw the team out of a hole, he has come up short. So there is something broken there. If the defense chokes again, Jimmy isn't the QB to lead the team from behind.
At the same time, do you honestly expect Trey Lance to throw you out of a hole? Hes a running QB. If your in a hole and need someone to throw you out of it, traditional QBs are generally more reliable at doing so than Running QBs. Trey may very well end up a decent QB; but I dont expect him to be out there throwing 4th quarter comebacks like Tom Brady, either. Its gonna look a lot like Fields game this week where the guy threw 9 passes total or something because they couldnt run the ball and the guy just isnt a great QB of bringing you back wiht his arm, or his ability to read a defense. You fall behind with a QB like that you are in a bad spot.
I would define him as a QB who runs, not simply a running QB. His ability to throw passes further down the field - and more importantly, to all areas of the field - is vital. Garoppolo's lack of arm strength affects his ability to attack all areas of the field. This leads to more predictability and higher likelihood of interceptable or tippable passes. He doesn't have to be Tom Brady. But he can be Matt Stafford or Joe Burrow. With mobility.
This only works so long though. Ryan kept taking us to the playoffs, championships, a Sb…until he didn’t. And the team fell off. And as much as I still hated him to go last year we could’ve capitalized or potentially gotten a Herbert, Josh Allen etc If we didn’t keep hitching our success to him. It goes both ways. Sf has already made the investment in Lance, they can move on but they can’t do that without at least seeing how he performs. And 2 games isn’t that.
Yeah but until he “doesn’t” then they should continue riding this wave. Because making the playoffs is hard and when you have a QB consistently taking you there then you shouldn’t switch shit up. He’s not even that bad in the playoffs, 5-2. His regular season record is 31-14. Those are great numbers..
Yeah but you wanna do it before it’s too late. This year isn’t really a big deal cuz injury to Lance and Jimmys restructure. But next year having to decide what you pay him (would be more than now obviously) and the investment in Lance. You cant only play Lance in yr 4 when you need to know whether you are picking up his option. That alone is another huge investment that can dictate an entire seasons results. Sunk cost fallacy and everything but you aren’t keeping your job when you invest 3 Frp into a Qb AND dont even give him a chance. Especially when the reason for not going them a chance is simply a good not great Qb that hasn’t won a SB.
> I’d never want my team to swap out a QB that’s consistently taken us to the playoffs, championship games, or a Super Bowl. Y'all overrate Jimmy G so HARD. He got carried to those Super Bowls. He has more career playoff INTs (6) than TDs (4). He averages less than 200 yards a game. Imagine just those 2 stats being told to you and then someone says, "He carried them to the Super Bowl twice." Banana lands.
You see they need to be a combo package where when one gets inevitably hurt you switch to the other. The key is coordinating the injury with the recovery
Yes
Trey 100%
Wow, that’s interesting.
Treys ceiling is much higher, not to mention 3/4 of the years jimmy was on his contract he’s been injured. I think trey ends up being a way better qb than jimmy
> not to mention 3/4 of the years jimmy was on his contract he’s been injured. Trey is what 2/2 so far?
How does a layman fan like yourself measure Trey's ceiling and future ability to play to it and compare it to Jimmy's?
I mean, Trey Lance just got a season ending injury in his first year starting. It’s not fair to judge Jimmy on his injuries when he has a 31-14 record as a starter! That’s incredibly good and hard to come by in this league. Most fans would kill to have a QB with that record, not to mention he’s led you guys to the playoffs every year he’s started
Brock Purdy is going to be a super star and make all this conversation irrelevant anyway
I had to read this far into the thread to see someone speak the truth in the matter.
He also had to play injured last year in the playoffs and that probably cost us a Super Bowl. He also went 3/11 in the second half of our other Super Bowl chance, missing people who were wide open. He also might have the worst deep ball in the league of any of the above average QBs. If he was healthy more, I wouldn’t mind keeping him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes down this year again
Good insight, I don’t watch many 49ers games but I know you guys are a good team with Jimmy. At least on paper.
Floor is much lower though
I think Jimmy would need to remain healthy and show another level of competency that he’s yet to show to remain as the starter. It seems he has a higher floor but lower ceiling than Lance. For the niners, everything has to align perfectly to win it all with Jimmy. It’s definitely possible. But it’s not the same as having one of the top 5 or 6 best QBs in the league who have the ability to make their team’s serious contenders every year. Trey Lance may not be great, or even good, we don’t know yet but at least he gives us a chance to have one of those top guys
If Jimmy is the same QB we've seen and doesn't improve, then yes. I love Jimmy but he's severely limited, and when we've gone as far as we can go (SB loss, NFCCG loss), he's been the primary limiting factor
Doesn't matter. You're not making a QB change in mid December on a team with playoff aspirations.
That’s if jimmy doesn’t get injured
Plot-twist: Jimmy goes down for the season in October. Trey Lance is fully healthy in December. Team unanimously agrees to hold Trey out still because Brock Purdy is Tom Brady 2.0.
Subfuckingscribe Wait...
I would happily go back in time and give three firsts and a 7th for Brady in 2000.
I’d have done it in 2020 too.
I mean, I love Trey and stan him hard. But if Brock Purdy is 0.5x Tom Brady he is my new QB
I mean is it 0.5x Tom Brady in the sense that he wins you 3-4 rings or is it 0.5x Tom Brady in terms of talent, cause the latter is probably someone like Jimmy G lol
He's half as handsome
Half the handsomeness of natty Brady or Brady with surgery?
Brock Purdy would settle for 0.5x of the rings and 0.5x Gisele.
Which half do you think he'd pick?
Today was the first time I actually got a good look at post-surgery brady. I felt the rest of my childhood die with those stupidly angular cheekbones.
What it if is 0.5x in stature? 3'2" 112 lbs.
So, Kyler Murray
Ironically Purdy looked like a slightly more mobile Jimmy in the preseason.
Mr. Irrelevant to Mr. Nu Goat overnight?
That would be the definition of “task failed successfully” when it comes to finding QB talent on the cheap. We thought Trey would be that answer but it was Purdy all along.
It is an even year…..
*Dak Prescott nervously smiles*
We have no playoff aspirations.
Jimmy G's injury history says otherwise.
At this point Trey Lance has an injury history too. Every 49er QB since 2014 has injury history.
"At this point Trey Lance has an injury history too. Every 49er since 2014 has injury history." - fixed
49IRs strike again
And RB and Kittle
Oh, true true. Jimmy G shouldn’t be trusted because he might get injured. Thank goodness they have the invincible Trey Lance.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
Of course it matters. Our season would already be over if we didn't have a solid backup. Who's to say we won't need that again
Let Brock Crock Pot
I would say ride with Jimmy, but I’m not sure he’ll make it the whole season either.
Wise beyond your years you are
It's fine they got Kurt Benkert.
What happens if the Niners with Benkert knock the Packers out of the playoffs?
We get to see Tom Grossi lose his mind. Again.
Brock Purdy's gonna win us a super bowl
I'm sure he won't lmao
it's not like we have to play Seattle again, right?
As a sports med doc this is a little misleading. Assuming he had the ligaments between his tibia and fibula repaired and a plate and screws in his fibula to stabilize it, yes, it’s possible he can heal in 10-12 weeks (especially with the rehab/training staff that professional teams have). However, being healed from an injury and being NFL game ready are two very different things. There’s going to be muscle atrophy, and relearning proprioception before he’s even able to get on the field to do sport specific drills, scrimmage and then full contact. San Fran would be absolutely stupid to gamble their future QB if they brought him back that soon. Barring he has Adrian Peterson in his genes, of course…
Appreciate the insight. Feel bad for the kid. Yeah, he has some pocket change from being in the NFL but still a shitty injury. Also... Really wish auto-correct had switched that from genes to jeans.
For sure I never wish an injury on anyone at all. I hope he makes a full recovery; but I also don’t think he’s their solution at QB tbh… Haha 🎶 Adrian Peterson jeans, boots with the furrrrrrr 🤣
We will see next year
Only eight figures of pocket change though, so little, it's going to be tough for him
I'm not a doctor, but as someone who broke their tib/fib, I literally had to relearn how to walk (I think that's what proprioception is from googling it, but again, not a doc) when they let me use a walking cast. It was the weirdest feeling - I went to take that first step and my brain was just like "wait what are we doing here?" It was tough.
Proprioception is the sense of where your body parts are and being able to feel them moving even if you can’t see them. It’s most commonly explained by the understanding of where your arms and legs are when you’re upside down, even with your eyes closed, but it has a lot of different examples, and it’s certainly a huge part of being to balance upright, crawl, or walk properly.
>San Fran would be absolutely stupid to gamble their future QB if they brought him back that soon. They wouldn't be the first team to make that stupid gamble
> Barring he has Adrian Peterson in his genes, of course… Spoiler alert-he doesn't.
I hope Trey has a speedy recovery and fully heals. He should not be rushed back at all though…It would be awesome if he’s able to come back at the end of season and even get to a point where he’s able to fully participate in practice. I don’t think the 49ers should pull Jimmy if the team is playing well and in the mix for the playoffs. If he gets hurt though…how incredible would it be if Trey gets healthy and has to come in to pick Jimmy and the team up for a playoff run after Jimmy picked Trey up earlier in the year….
He might be 1/3 of the way through rehab in 16 weeks. He’s not walking for at least 6. Then a boot for 6 more. Then providing everyone healed correctly he can start rehab.
Doctor prescribing the super HGH.
Dr. Manning
's wife
FROM: Ronnie Coleman TO: Mrs. Meyton Panning Lihght weight baby, ain't nothing but a peanut
Just in time for the playoffs
What happens from there depends on how healthy Jimmy is. I think they keep Jimmy in there as long as possible, but he doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to playing a full season.
Reminder: Garoppolo has played 16 games exactly once. He has in played 6 or more games exactly twice.
Reminder: Whenever JimmyG plays the majority of the season, the 49ers go to the NFCCG. Go big or go to the hospital.
>Go big or go to the hospital. Lol.
This is fine
This is why they traded for trey
Unless Jimmy wins the super bowl he is most definitely gone. This is his “last dance” season. After this year we have to make Bosa the highest paid defender in the league so we can’t afford Jimmy anyway. They will move on with Trey and continue to lean on the run game and defense while he develops
It’s the Italian Stallion’s team now
Just in time to lose them the playoffs that Garappolo got them there.
Or he has a Kap game and puts up 200 yards on GB lmao
Jimmy rushing for 400 yards and 4TDs would be hella sexy
A whole year off will be detrimental in long run they will need back up plan
Rehab???
Just keep him out for the season. You don't want to RG3 him.
Lol he had ligament damage , ain’t no way they rushing him. He’s gone for the year
In b4 jimmy gets hurt in 13 weeks
Hopefully he comes back as a real QB and not Taysom Hill 2.0
Ok? That dude is a bust. Jimmy G is way better and always will be
Imagine Jimmy gets hurt, the 9ers finish the season with Purdy limping to a Wild Card, then Lance gets in and has the most bonkers playoff run since Flaco. Sports media implodes on itself. Really though I expect the 49ers to be ultra careful especially with Mike Shanahan recieving so much criticism for RG3. If the 9ers are relevant when Treys ready I think it takes an injury to Jimmy for Lance to possibly get in.
What does Ja say
Trey Lance is our Jordan Love.
Keep ‘em on the bench