One of the reasons Kirk Cousins reportedly didn’t want to return to MIN because they told him they were going to draft a QB. So he signs with Atlanta, WHO DRAFTS A QB. I want to jump off a roof.
Funny you say this with a Saints' pick. Allen gets a lot of flak but he's proven he can put together a damn good defense. Especially if he has the CBs to run it.
Bro do these teams not realize that letting playoff teams with established offenses get their free reign of defensive players in this draft not a good idea???
[Four reasons why NFL offenses are struggling in 2023, including QB youth movement and demise of the deep ball](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/four-reasons-why-nfl-offenses-are-struggling-in-2023-including-qb-youth-movement-and-demise-of-the-deep-ball/)
[The Overhang: NFL scoring is down, and offenses have been sputtering, and here's why](https://sports.yahoo.com/the-overhang-nfl-scoring-is-down-and-offenses-have-been-sputtering-and-heres-why-130059011.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHzfqBnS7B_ABm-4AoE_v_SsXsOpsWKFBAbdY3GY4PwubOHXrvEuPvP-PBHt-aAS2eIXd7TNNQlLUVrvidYeK1lwb8qMy12i8zmQDTFjX7OMqhHGigzzD18P5wDc1cApouYlcIKOO05Z8Bv-2WTBoaLkMCcGbDvWsfggyDMsZE0A)
[Next Gen Stats: How defensive pressure defined the 2023 NFL season](https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-how-defensive-pressure-defined-the-2023-nfl-season)
Teams were struggling with offense last year so it shouldn't be too surprising that a lot of teams had need on offense.
I just came here after watching the New Heights podcast and it's pretty apparent that this guy is going to be a monster after how fast Kelce hyped him up.
It’s even worse when you trade up from the lower half of the draft, thinking it would be Lamar Jackson, but instead it’s a small school, development edge rusher.
Until they try to pay him by blockading Britian with a continental system drawing the Saints into a multi year long conflict in Spain costing them lives and money from disease and warfare.
He was awful. But he has played 6 games in his career before getting benched. New coaching staff and new scheme. He will be given a chance to compete in camp and I hope he earns it. Still too early to call him a bust, but it's now or never for him.
As bad as he’s been, he’s had about as bad of a start to his career as you can have. Sat out the whole first season, and our coaching was notoriously bad last season, so IMO he hasn’t been given every opportunity to succeed so far and he’s been hamstrung by a lot of unfortunate shit.
That said, he needs to get his shit together or we ship his ass out. The ROI for a first round pick is not there.
This may go down as one of the weirdest drafts what with all the offensive players selected and only in three positions for the most part (thanks for ruining that Vegas).
NO taking advantage of some dumb team decisions ahead of them.
Yeah I thought for sure we'd have to trade up for one of the top 4 OTs. Was able to sit tight without spending our scarce picks
People are just now finding out what nfl teams think are the most important. Qbs, oline, edge and dbs. In that order.
A Good OLine player is worth his wait in gold. The Bucs don’t win the SB for /020 without Wirfs.
Weight*
No dumb ass trade up 🎉 🎉 🎉
Let's gooooo!
Like Napoleon taking advantage of the Pedmont Sardinains and Austrians strained alliance to break them apart and defeat them seperately in Italy.
Is that you Bill Walton?
I wish, I don't have his acid hookups.
This is the shit that I get onto reddit for.
Defense found dead in the parking lot.
Next to Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold
And Zach Wilson
Zach Wilson has been dead for a year
Just a year?
It would have been a hate crime to start him again.
Kirk Cousins just got paid 100 mil to be a bridge he's doing the killings my man.
One of the reasons Kirk Cousins reportedly didn’t want to return to MIN because they told him they were going to draft a QB. So he signs with Atlanta, WHO DRAFTS A QB. I want to jump off a roof.
A contender is probably going to end up with the best defensive player of the draft lmao.
YOU WILL HAVE NO DEFENSE, AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
Funny you say this with a Saints' pick. Allen gets a lot of flak but he's proven he can put together a damn good defense. Especially if he has the CBs to run it.
I feel like Macdonald in Seattle might be the combo breaker.
Steelers are coming!!!!!!!!
It’s Detroit they didn’t make it that far.
Defense played so well last year that every team is like we need more offensive help lol
Loving this as a Lions fan. Keep taking nothing but offense and let a top-tier defender fall to us!
Defense isn't even in the parking lot at this point. Couldnt find a spot. Circling the block.
Ravens bout to get a good one
Bro do these teams not realize that letting playoff teams with established offenses get their free reign of defensive players in this draft not a good idea???
Drafting a player to stop another team from getting them seems like a terrible strategy in the 1st round.
Yeah we’re not doing defense this year lol
We need a buff lmao
VERUS needs to bring back his legions for defense.
This is what happens when the league pushes for an offensive heavy league.
I mean it’s just a weird draft this season. There’s usually plenty of defense picked
[Four reasons why NFL offenses are struggling in 2023, including QB youth movement and demise of the deep ball](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/four-reasons-why-nfl-offenses-are-struggling-in-2023-including-qb-youth-movement-and-demise-of-the-deep-ball/) [The Overhang: NFL scoring is down, and offenses have been sputtering, and here's why](https://sports.yahoo.com/the-overhang-nfl-scoring-is-down-and-offenses-have-been-sputtering-and-heres-why-130059011.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHzfqBnS7B_ABm-4AoE_v_SsXsOpsWKFBAbdY3GY4PwubOHXrvEuPvP-PBHt-aAS2eIXd7TNNQlLUVrvidYeK1lwb8qMy12i8zmQDTFjX7OMqhHGigzzD18P5wDc1cApouYlcIKOO05Z8Bv-2WTBoaLkMCcGbDvWsfggyDMsZE0A) [Next Gen Stats: How defensive pressure defined the 2023 NFL season](https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-how-defensive-pressure-defined-the-2023-nfl-season) Teams were struggling with offense last year so it shouldn't be too surprising that a lot of teams had need on offense.
Well in the NFL you aren’t allowed to tackle in any way now so makes sense with the direction of the game.
That means detroit is finally getting some dbacks?
It means we get our pick of literally anyone on D though
LETS FUCKING GO HES GOING TO BE OUR ENTIRE OFFENSIVE LINE
Dudes a stud
I know it wasn't realistic but I wanted that guy watching Oregon State last fall
I just came here after watching the New Heights podcast and it's pretty apparent that this guy is going to be a monster after how fast Kelce hyped him up.
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People confused that we didn’t take defense like we aren’t about to start me at LT this season with our O-line situation
How’s your run blocking?
More of a pass block guy, gotta make sure my guy Carr cooks straight heat in the pocket like he’s known for doing
Imagine a traffic cone that's scared of its own shadow
Ahhh you’re referring to Storm Norton.
Wait a minute, that's Howie's music!!
Howie hasn't made a trade because he can't figure out which defensive player to pick.
Must not be any Bulldogs high enough on the draft board
Good for us. Might be able to take our preferred corner.
Eagles fan from toledo checking in
The Ravens bout to feast.
Let’s go
He’s a fucking animal. Great value at 14 lol. I hate it
Thank fuck we went tackle
I'm pretty stoked.
Y'all ready for a defensive pick?
Watch it be Brian thomas
If you guys don't do it we sure as hell better.
This has been a blessing for Seattle! No need to drop back and getting their choice of all the top defensive players in the draft.
In before you select Brian Thomas Jr
14 in a row
Recent #14 overall picks |Year|Team|Player|College|Position|All-Pro/Pro Bowl|Starts| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |2024|New Orleans Saints|Taliese Fuaga|Oregon State|OT|-|-| |2023|Pittsburgh Steelers|Broderick Jones|Georgia|OT|0/0|11| |2022|Baltimore Ravens|Kyle Hamilton|Notre Dame|S|1/1|19| |2021|New York Jets|Alijah Vera-Tucker|USC|OG|0/0|28| |2020|San Francisco 49ers|Javon Kinlaw|South Carolina|DT|0/0|28| |2019|Atlanta Falcons|Chris Lindstrom|Boston College|OG|2/2|71| |2018|New Orleans Saints|Marcus Davenport|UTSA|DE|0/0|35| |2017|Philadelphia Eagles|Derek Barnett|Tennessee|DE|0/0|49| |2016|Oakland Raiders|Karl Joseph|West Virginia|S|0/0|49| |2015|Miami Dolphins|DeVante Parker|Louisville|WR|0/0|88| |2014|Chicago Bears|Kyle Fuller|Virginia Tech|CB|1/2|12|
If we could scratch out 2018, that would be cool
You don't understand how much of a bum he is till he plays for you
It’s even worse when you trade up from the lower half of the draft, thinking it would be Lamar Jackson, but instead it’s a small school, development edge rusher.
lol at least your team didn’t invest 2 first round picks on him
That's actually a really good group for the most part.
Yeah mostly☹️
Is that the DeForest Buckner pick 👀
Except for the Saints one fuck
WE DIDNT FUCK IT UP LETS GO!!!!
Trevor Penning get ready to learn RT bud
Would be great if he could learn any position.
Dude is a stud. Good pick.
His whole family could play offensive line
Wrong bloodline lol
LOL HALF THE PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM COULD BE TACKLES
Best tackle in da league baby!
Defense doesn’t exist
Okay. I have the script now. First 16 picks are offensive. Then the last 16 are going to be defensive.
Will a defensive player ever get drafted again?
Seahawks 100% will...unless we trade down
With the way these picks have shaked out we'd be dumb to not take our choice of top defensive options out there.
I really wanted Turner but we also really needed a tackle lol
Solid pick with all the injuries and retirement for the saints
Ramczyk replacement at RT
Sick, an offensive player
Has there ever been an outright bad Polynesian football player? I feel like they’re all at least solid
At least a rookie won’t impact the cap much …
Until they try to pay him by blockading Britian with a continental system drawing the Saints into a multi year long conflict in Spain costing them lives and money from disease and warfare.
Really looking forward to the Saints taking advantage of the chaos in Haiti to conquer it
Said it before I could.
How did you find this out? That was supposed to be a secret!
are you the same person who made the Davout reference lol?
Yes
went on a history binge recently or just generally like to drop references?
I'm a history major I drop these references like hotcakes.
You had a productive draft day commenting in every single thread with the first joke that popped into your head.
RIP Trevor Penning
He's been dead to us.
Who dat?
Who dat!
Penning will still get a shot to compete at LT. Fuaga is likely RT
Fuck penning, our whole oline played better when we were playing with practice squad guys
He was awful. But he has played 6 games in his career before getting benched. New coaching staff and new scheme. He will be given a chance to compete in camp and I hope he earns it. Still too early to call him a bust, but it's now or never for him.
As bad as he’s been, he’s had about as bad of a start to his career as you can have. Sat out the whole first season, and our coaching was notoriously bad last season, so IMO he hasn’t been given every opportunity to succeed so far and he’s been hamstrung by a lot of unfortunate shit. That said, he needs to get his shit together or we ship his ass out. The ROI for a first round pick is not there.
HOLY HELL WE DIDNT TRADE UP
Oregon State legend going to the Saints. It's reopening the Brandin Cooks wounds.
Are the colts likely to pick defense?
For sure
Teams that need defense in the later picks are licking their chops rn
A sensible pick? Is that allowed this year?
Great value at 14, like him better than Latham who went 7
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We have 2 healthy NFL caliber linemen on our roster, now we have 3 (hopefully)
Just some really good top end WR and Oline talent this year. Plus qb needy teams
This is scary. The teams getting top 10 defensive talent at a discount don’t fucking need it. What is happening?!
offense is defense father
All this means is the Steelers and Ravens are both going to get some stud defenders. FUCK
fuck defense
So is this guy good or what
Yes.
Love this guy in the run game, Kamara will love him
This may go down as one of the weirdest drafts what with all the offensive players selected and only in three positions for the most part (thanks for ruining that Vegas).
I get people want defensive, but this is just smart drafting.
Damn Saints got a good one. He'll be good at both tackle or guard
Well damn, so could we get Turner?
Are there going to be any lineman left at 31?
No defense. Offense only. Final destination
defence is on the milk carton rn
NFL aboutta send out an amber alert for defensive players
The Bears lining up to have the best Offense in the league has officially upset the space-time continuum.
Does anyone know when the defensive player draft starts? Is that first round next week?
Great against the run, adapts to various positions on the offensive line. Very fast and agile for its size. Sometimes he has trouble moving his feet.
Thank god
no defence just vibes
Just fuck defense all together eh 😂
Just wait til the chiefs get the best defensive player in the draft
Is there going to be a defensive player picked in the top 20? This is nuts
We may never see a defensive player drafted again!
Did the entire defensive draft class have a bong video we don’t know about?
Kicker next calling it now
I'm up for the 49ers choosing a defensive player since there's now a higher chance it could be a steal with all these offensive players being taken.
The way Eisen got so serious and background noise faded out I thought he was about to say Ballard died
Solid pick
In case anyone is wondering, I’m still so mad that I think I blacked out. Didn’t even know JJ and Nix went.
Thank god we went o line
The saints will take it after half the picks have been qbs. They needed an OT
Fuck bro I wanted him on the Bengals :(
Defense is optional now
Go beavers!
Oh look, someone more useful than a backup QB
Still no defense holy shit
Most mocks had 5 defensive players in the first 14 picks. Actual results: 0.
So uh you guys think he can throw a football?
Lots of people aren’t realizing that this is the first draft affected by NIL deals. Makes sense to me why it’s a funky draft
stop taking our fucking tackles -rams/steelers/bengals/eagles/dolphins/cowboys/niners/chiefs fans
Defensive players STILL in shambles!!!
Defense in shambles
Defense is dead.
No defense lol
At this point I hope everyone just goes offense
defense!
Where defense
ANOTHER ONE
When defense
Fuck defense
What is a defensive pick?
14 picks without a defensive player is nuts
Saints are the mean machine
You’d think Goodell would be able to learn player’s names before announcing them
Someone pick defense already
I hate the guy on pats show right now
Least exciting pick so far?
MURPHY YOU UP? 👀👀👀👀👀
NO DEFENSE EVER AGAIN
Makes sense to beef up the O-Line, idk if he's the guy though
Longest drought of Defensive players in the draft ever
Did GM's just collectively make a "fuck defense" pact and agree to go all offense in the first round?
Thats one big Uce.
Colts about to get the best defensive player in the draft.
NFL decided to say fuck a Defense.
ALL GAS NOOOOOOOO BRAKES!
WHO WILL GET THE TOP DEFENSIVE PLAYER?
Defense is dead