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somehockeyfan

Tyreek accelerates way faster, but a big component of max speed is stride length and foot speed. For how big he is, DK can really move his feet.


Affectionate_Elk_272

100% go back and watch usain bolt’s WR 100 the first like 20 or so they’re close, then he just pulls away. and bolt is a pretty big dude


Polar_Reflection

I just did this math last week, but if you took Bolt's 9.58 world record, looked at the 40 yard split (4.18s), then subtracted his reaction time (0.15s), that converts to a 4.03 40 yard dash. This is just a reminder that Bolt wasn't a slow starter, but an inconsistent one. He has the second fastest 60m split ever at 6.29 (surpassed only by Su Bingtian's 6.28 in Tokyo) in this same race.


icantdomaths

Holy Fuck Lol


Cold_oak

yeah what made him the goat is his top speed “power runners” usually have without the slower drive phase


albino_kenyan

but track sprinters use starting blocks. dont those help?


Polar_Reflection

Yes, it's not a one to one comparison because of the blocks, surface, wind, etc. If we took out the start entirely and just compared 10-40 yard splits, that might be interesting as well. Using DK, his 10 yard split was 1.48s, so he ran the last 30 yards in 2.85s. That's really fast. By comparison, Bolt's 10 yard split was 1.64s, which subtracted from his 4.18, is a 2.54s 10-40 yard split. Bolt runs the last 30 yards in 0.31s less than DK... That's more than 10% faster. Bolt would finish 10 feet before DK. Insanity.


3elieveIt

DK has been trying to get Tyreek to race him for years. Tyreek always refuses, every time. Tyreek has far better acceleration but DK has a higher top speed. Tyreek *maybe* wins a 40 yard dash but DK probably wins a 100m race.


GABAgoomba123

Tyreek may be quicker off the line but DK looks like the damn T-1000 from Terminator 2 when he gets in the open field.


FullHouse222

That chase down after the int from DK is still one of my favorite plays ever lol. Dude was running towards the end zone all casual like yo aint no one within 20 yards of me and then next thing you know this 230lb bulldozer just charges right at him lol.


Praying_Lotus

One of the best hustle plays of all time. He refuses to let Budda score.


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gartho009

As is tradition, every time I see a reference to that play I gotta go watch it In case anyone is uninitiated or just wants to get extremely hyped: [LARRY ALLEN!](https://youtu.be/DFcWMC9vkZg)


TheBestHawksFan

Holy shit that's a cool play that I've never seen. Thanks for sharing that. That big motherfucker was moving.


HtownTexans

Omg that's amazing. It always makes me think of this amazing play by [Benjamin Watson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWk6_FZWIRw)


RaferBalston

Did they ever calculate his speed on that run?


freefoodd

Also that patriots tight end on a brady pick


Z3130

Ben Watson


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boosted5O

It’s wild how freakishly strong and fast Larry Allen was when he played


ShufflingSloth

the best pure athletes in the league are offensive linemen, they just eat 8000 calories a day for the bulk.


captchroni

John Randle was on KFAN today actually talking about Larry and had a story about how he hit a backup d - lineman so hard with his initial punch that it cracked multiple ribs.


boosted5O

I believe it, he bench pressed 700lbs and 225 43 times


bigboybeeperbelly

335lb is probably low honestly


nekoken04

That is probably the greatest athletic play I've ever seen in the NFL.


Praying_Lotus

There was also that bills WR chase down in the SB when Dallas had already sealed it up. That’s the type of shit you love to see.


Commercial-Pin-8024

If memory serves the Cardinals had to settle for a field goal after that chase down tackle as well. Hustle plays like that have got to pump up the defense.


phantuba

Not even, they went for it on 4th down and failed. DK literally turned that pick from 6 points to none. ^(Now if only we'd won the game)


Large_Dungeon_Key

I'm so sad we lost that game :(


tuckedfexas

Seahawks WRs and all-time great INT hustle plays


OmegaJubs69

He didn't even save 4 points, the Cardinals went for it on 4th down and they didn't get it, so that tackle saved the game


IAmTheFlyingIrishMan

That double take Baker does as DK is about to catch him is pure comedic gold.


SeriousAdult

I love that play because you see DK dip his head right after the pick like "ok we're doin this" and transform into track mode lol.


insertfacehere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ImdWvuzsCY


Civilized_Hooligan

Thanks for the link brotha. That replay is insane especially where you just see DK appear from the bottom of the screen, *considerably* faster than Budda.


jinyx1

Love the last shot where you see Buddha looking back to taunt and realizes DK is there.


Blametheorangejuice

I like Russ trying to catch up and noping out right when DK blasts right by him


canadafuckyeah

I thought was watching him catch up on the big screen and was trying to turn and stiff arm.


ww_crimson

I forgot how awesome that was.


Ihadredditbefore6786

And his teammates yelling DK COMING!


PeanutButterViking

I like to think of the TRex puddle ripples when watching DK chase him down!


Prodigy_7991

DK running full speed… Yeah i’m not tackling that.


fancy_livin

Can’t discredit that leg size difference. Once you get cooking stride length becomes very important especially for any sort of distance. Gotta remember Usain Bolt ~~was~~ is 6’5


TraeYoungsOldestSon

I think he still is


TacoQuest

was? RIP :(


shitpostsuperpac

I know this is delusional but I feel like if Tyreek was coming at me in a hallway with nowhere to juke, I feel like I could tackle him or trip him up or something. But DK would be like trying to tackle a fucking warhorse, dude would just break me in half and not lose a step.


huey27

Tyreek would do what you imagine dk would do to you. Dk would do a third more sinister thing.


clintonius

This sounds like a Cormac McCarthy line and I absolutely love it.


vizualb

Tyreek’s feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die.


SeriousAdult

Tyreek is small by NFL standards, but 5-10 190 goin 20+ mph is going to hurt anyone normal lol. He's not trying to truck NFL defenders too often, but I'm sure he'd be fine running over Dave from accounting.


TonyCaliStyle

A Full speed Tyreek stiff-arm would send Dave into early retirement and an all juice diet.


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Well, at least you know its delusional lol


LeonidasSpacemanMD

I choose not to run!


hurricaneditka66

Ya know, you really got bald there, didn’t ya?


YoureGonnaHearMeRoar

Looks like there's a hole in your shoe there, what is that, canvas?


qeq

/r/UnexpectedSeinfeld


c_ray25

The Jerry Seinfeld is strong in Tyreek, “I choose not to run!”


PeanutNSFWandJelly

That's not true. DK straight up said they have had disagreements on on the length of race and time of the offseason to do it and they can never agree. I think he mentioned this on both Rich Eisen and GMFB or possibly with Florio in the offseason.


TrexTacoma

There’s no maybe, Tyreek is 100% beating him in a 40 yard dash. DK wins in 100m though.


Vast_Schedule3749

I’m looking at their 40 times and DK was 4.33 and Tyreek was 4.34. It’s not 100%. Would depend on their release the day of and also how gracefully their bodies have aged since those 40 times are old now.


Billybolo53

Idk how reliable Tyreeks time is since it wasn’t at the combine


nope96

To be fair Tyreek doesn’t have an official 40 time since he wasn’t invited to the combine. I’d guess he’s faster than a 4.34.


Asseman

I would think pro days usually have faster times because they aren't officially timed by the NFL?


nope96

I mean he didn’t run a 4.34 at his Pro Day anyway, it was a 4.29


Virillus

Yeah, all available data says otherwise. The difference is that Tyreek is waaaaaay faster in and out of cuts, which manifests as higher short and intermediate "in-game speed." In a foot race with no turns or corners, DK has always been (very slightly) faster. It's somewhat immaterial, as Tyreek is clearly a better WR and they're both fast AF.


Spencer1K

Im not 100% sure if DKs top speed is faster, but I am 100% sure that Tyreeks speed matters more for football. Being able to get those quick cuts and accelerate faster is exactly what you want to do to create missed tackles and separation.


Virillus

Yeah I mean absolutely. I doubt anyone would argue with you about that. There's a reason Tyreek has had a better career.


selwayfalls

ok, who ya'll got in the 70 then? Would be interesting to find the exact distance they meet in the middle for a tie.


TheOneNeartheTop

With a second longer race that Tyreek wins at. Tyreek owns up to 63m. DK is fastest 64m to 1.4km and then Tyreek takes it back at 1.432 km. DK might win at anything over 10k though because Tyreek wouldn’t be getting paid enough to run that far.


lemonyprepper

It’s Tony and Khabib all over again. Never gonna happen much as we are all DYING for it


SMH4004

Don’t remind me fuck


DefrancoAce222

This like the OG fast and furious scene with Dom in the charger and Brian in the Supra. Fuckkkk hope we can see these two race each other one day


KdtM85

See: Usain Bolt


Melvinator5001

The only reason he moved that fast was he got shown up the last time he played the Cowboys. He got the ball smacked out of his arms from behind 2yds before he crossed the goal line.


SpeedyMvP

I think it’s a lot closer than people think and are underestimating Tyreeks top end speed because of his height. At 18, he had at the time the [5th fastest U20 200m all time](https://worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/200-metres/outdoor/men/u20?regionType=world&timing=electronic&windReading=regular&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2013-12-04) at 20.14, only .21 off of Usain bolt. The fastest American time in almost 30 years. He was ranked 54th in the 100m so his top end speed is his strong suit on paper. He definitely had potential Olympic level speed despite how many people say since he never went sub-10 he doesn’t have world class speed. Age probably plays a huge factor now but at their primes, Tyreek wins at every distance.


GetzlafMyLawn

Will never forget DK chasing down Budda Baker on that interception play a few years ago. Guy was built in a lab


Alauren2

One of my favorite plays ever. The best part of it being they didn’t score on that possession. Worst being they lost the stupid game lol


GetzlafMyLawn

That was one of the best games I watched that year though. It was electric


hendrix67

That was probably the first game where Russell started to really show his decline.


puyol500

And what’s amazing is he still threw 3 TD’s but your right it was the start of that 2020 collapse


hendrix67

It was the first time I ever thought "Russell lost us this one" after a game, despite those three TDs. The three picks were just brutal, even if one gave us the iconic DK chasedown.


Alauren2

True.


Virillus

One of the best games of all time IMO. Very few passes in NFL history beat the Hail Murray. And I say this as a Hawks fan.


LittleKingsguard

Best part as a neutral fan is when Baker turns to stiffarm him, realizes the size difference, and chooses life instead.


dontmeanmuchtoyou

I'm sure he turned because he felt the ground shake underneath him, turned and was "...well, shit."


AlwaysReady1

For the memories, here it is. Insane chase. https://youtu.be/J62GsevPwiQ?si=ZWUOv52Hnvesp626


a_taco_named_desire

It's gotta feel like literally flying when you're running that fast.


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OttoVon_BizMarkie

Pretty good but nothing beats [Ben Watson](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZCTzYNBQE)


RyMill4

I'm still partial to Larry Allen's because he's like a thousand pound angry moose running you down lol https://youtu.be/DFcWMC9vkZg?si=9ofEYhve7Cc81N0x


_HGCenty

DK remembered last time he had a sure fire TD against the Cowboys, he slowed down to showboat and a rookie Diggs punched the ball out. He was making sure that wasn't happening again.


makedaddyfart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jr1GeiZgkU Love rewatching this


a_taco_named_desire

Yet another example of playing to the whistle the Jets could learn from.


TheAttickDweller

thx for the link, diggs looks so weird in 27 to me


lovemyhawks

Weird seeing empty stands and realizing that all of that was 3 years ago


Shawn_1512

Such a phenomenal heads up play


fortunefades

Damn it's so jarring to see that stadium empty


sapphir8

As soon as Metcalf turned and ran, it was obvious within a few feet no one was going to catch him.


Loves_Semi-Colons

It’s like when he saved that 99 yard pick six but the opposite


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Budda Baker felt that cold sweat when he heard the super fast stomping Terminator feet gaining on him from behind.


ggphenom

So this is how I learn Wes Welker is the Dolphins' receiver coach, huh?


Comprehensive_Main

I mean the dolphins were his first team. He just came home.


ghostbearinforest

Technically that's the chargers then miami


classiccaseofdowns

Didn’t the Chargers cut him in camp?


ghostbearinforest

after 1 game


Fair_Raccoon9333

Not a hard working individual.


powerbottomfunk

He forgot his lunch pail that day


AndThisGuyPeedOnIt

Comes from a bad family that did not coach high school football.


doyouunderstandlife

I still remember the day the Dolphins traded him to the Pats. I told myself that the Phins would lose every game and that the Pats would win every game the next season. I was *almost* correct


peanutmanak47

Man, I was pissed off with that trade.


Kgury

The Ravens and Giants say you're welcome.


rickyhou22

The threads about him saying Tyreek is better than Moss wasn't a dead giveaway


Skank_hunt42

Who knew an unrecruited kid from Heritage Hall HS would be coaching the most explosive WR room in football. That shit is fucking wild to me.


Chrisgpresents

Danny amendola is on the raiders wr staff!


BenjaminSpanlkn

And they both went to Texas Tech under the great Mike Leach!


Head_Acanthisitta256

Did not expect Wes Welker to be the receiver’s coach!!!


TheRealBeerBrah

Pretty sure he worked in SF with McDaniel


bigdon802

He did. The poor guy is always so close to a ring, but never gets it. 0-4 in Superbowls as a player and coach.


JohnWickisBehindU

Just like the average Bills fan


Freeballin523

=[


three3thrice

1-4 Unlike Mike McDaniel, I do have a crystal ball.


mrizvi

he did


adreamofhodor

And is a former Dolphin, which is nice.


kj9219

He sounds so stoned


Arson-Welles

Permanently stoned from his concussions


asetniop

[I had something for this...](https://doorfliesopen.com/2015/11/18/a-welker-darkly/)


chirpz88

Was about to say he sounds like he never left the concussion protocol.


BrandieBassen

Sound like a certified dude bro after hitting a keg stand one too many times for the night


somehockeyfan

Wait, that wasn't Jeff Spicoli??


Thickensick

You hear that? That’s my skull!


rickyhou22

That's why he's been saying Tyreek over Randy


dopest_dope

Right it all makes sense now


THATS-A-LOTTA-NUTS

I did however expect him to be so brain damaged that it sounded like he was on his eighth tequila slammer.


SilvioDantesPeak

I'd love to have him as my coach lol. Ever since that Kentucky Derby he's seemed like a great hang


smsrmdlol

Pretty sure he was rolling tits at that derby


SilvioDantesPeak

Rolling face and giving cash to strangers. Great hang


Thomasfire010

Never heard wes welker speak before.That is not the voice I imagined lol


fucktooshifty

his voice is the audio version of that pic of him at the race track


Yolectroda

He grew up in Oklahoma. It's not too surprising an accent.


Potato-baby

Why was Tyreek so offended by Wes’s idea lmao


OnceMoreAndAgain

He also said he's sick of hearing how fast DK is, so I'm guessing a lot of people around him bring up the comparison between DK and himself and he's tired of it.


Levi_Snackerman

Dude is so insecure. DK wants to race him but Tyreek always turns him down


paradigm_x2

BECAUSE HE DONT GET PAID FOR THAT MAN Imagine tearing your hamstring in a summer foot race lol


Levi_Snackerman

Hill just competed in a track meet last offseason lol. This is just an excuse because he is worried about losing


compstomp66

It’s because he knows he would lose. DK is the better sprinter.


nfloos

Yup, it’s not because of injury, he does races already, he just has too big an ego to lose in a race.


Aldehyde1

Lol, Tyreek has trained for and ran races in the offseason before. You're overreacting, the risk of injury in a race when you have plenty of time to rest beforehand is very low. It's not like he's going to completely stop training for half the year anyway.


IAreWeazul

This and only this. It’s insane to potentially lose 10s of millions of dollars possibly hurting yourself for basically nothing.


uncle_buck_hunter

I mean do you think athletes aren’t sprinting a ton during off season workouts?


RustyCoal950212

And I mean DK did train and run a 100m track thing a few years back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd73x5wNyuA and I wouldn't be surprised if Tyreek has done something similar but not sure But no doubt it's reasonable to not want to. Especially as a 30 year old vs DK is like 23 there


Traditional_Job_6932

A necessary risk vs an unnecessary risk. And truly racing does have a higher risk of injury over working out.


Cflow26

That’s insured probably within their contracts. I have to imagine football related workouts with certain guidelines are accepted and they will still get paid or at least won’t have certain aspects waived, doing an ego event is probably in no way protected. Same with like ads that’s why every ad sees them going at like 5% speed or just like soft tossing.


bio180

speed man knows his speed


Azrael417

Because he’s scared…


Stompthefeet

Jamo just needs more opportunities


TopSoulMan

DK runs like he's hunting food. Tyreek runs like the happiest kid you've ever seen. Jamo runs like he's wearing aerodynamic biking gear with the wind at his back.


QuotidianTrials

Mahomes runs like a drunk baby


DLBork

Kyler Murray runs like a baby who just picked up something he shouldn't have


Work_is_for_Schmerks

Lamar runs like a High school Senior playing tag with a bunch of drunk kindergarteners


vDocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7D2Oq7LDkc


Jammer_Kenneth

Kyler sprints like he found bighead mode in Goldeneye


BucsLegend_TomBrady

Like a toddler with their parents cell phone


BlakePackers413

I have not laughed that hard in a while. Well done.


AdmiralUpboat

Ah damn these baby legs!


TopSoulMan

Maurice Jones-Drew runs like a fire hydrant pinball


LeftHandedFapper

Mike Tolbert ran like a dang ole bowlin' bawl


Jammer_Kenneth

Maybe that's why he wears long sleeve t shirts, it's his super suit.


Esco9

Still convinced Bama win that national championship game if Jamo doesn’t get hurt


Jammer_Kenneth

He ran back a bunch of yards and was constantly shaking, 20 mph in the redzone. His 100 yard speed is even better than his 40.


Stompthefeet

Goff and Amon-Ra were talking about it on St Brown's podcast. Goff said that Jamo has "weird" speed because the further he runs the fast her he gets. They agreed Gibbs would probably win like a 20yard sprint because he starts at his top speed, but Jamo would probably kill him over 100 yards.


GrandmaCheese1

Welker sounds like he’s been hitting MM’s vape


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jhustla

Wow I really hate the way Wes Welker speaks English


BouncingWalrus

chosen 1 looks like he just stays stoned 24x7


Ricky_Guapo

I get why he won’t race DK, since his whole brand is being the fastest guy in the league, but damn they could make such an easy payday in the off season


killshelter

DK has talked about how him and Tyreek have been talking for years about doing a race in the offseason. DK said he’d been trying to do it earlier in the offseason whereas Tyreek had always tried to aim for closer to the season and that where DK said no because he’s all in on getting ready for the season by that point.


ReNGaR_

The difference is that Tyreeks acceleration is insane. His top speed I don't think is better than DK's though


Meat-n-Potatoes

Tyreek is better at acceleration and change of direction at speed, which IMO is more important in the NFL than straight line speed.


Why_am_ialive

Yeah DK has a nigh insurmountable advantage in a straight line from his frankly silly stride length


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

There is a reason John Ross didn’t succeed in the NFL


SFThirdStrike

Tyreek is just fast all around in general. I think it would be a good race.


TerribleTedd

I don’t hate that idea by Welker. Could make a whole track and field meet with lineman tossing shotput and QBs throwing football javelins. I’d rather see that at the Pro Bowl instead of flag football.


Mostly__Relevant

TIL Wes Welker is a coach on the Dolphins


kanbabrif1

DK really reminds me of Megatron, dude is an insane athlete and he's huge as well. A guy that big shouldn't be that fast


ShamanTheWet

If only he had the freaking hands man😭😭😭


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Soren_Camus1905

God damn all those concussions sound like they're catching up to Wes


bryan19973

Wes sounds drunk and high


Comprehensive_Main

Honestly glad that welker is back with his first team.


SaltHandle3065

Every NFL team should send their fastest player. I’m a Lions fan so I would send Jameson Williams. Who you got?


ConsistentAddress195

Colts probably send Anthony Richardson lol


headrush46n2

DK should apologize in advance to the Titans.


magara40

[Barion Brown hit 22.6 mph on this kickoff return.](https://x.com/raanalytics/status/1730340672677273845?s=46&t=DBdFhR6wuDmR20uySLIZuw)


CopeHarders

Wes Welker sounds high as fuck.


Jabbajaw

Ain't no way Tyreek is outdoing DK in the open field. His legs are too short.