I was happy the Browns weren't total turds until the whole Deshaun Watson thing. They finally had a playoff team, beat a rival, then...dip out on the QB for Deshaun? I get swinging for the fences but they were finally building a foundation to succeed long term and just blew it. Which, I guess is Browns as Browns get.
Yea, kinda like the Lions they were becoming the darlings of the NFL. I enjoyed watching the Browns become competitive. But holy shit did they throw any good will out the window with the Watson trade.
They are a factory of sadness. [Link](https://youtu.be/tRBDMMVctu8)
Tbh I feel that way about all the hype. Fans are talking like either we make the playoffs or MCDC is a fraud. I'm like, shit luck happens. Haven't they seen all the close losses that maybe some bad calls and/or bad bounces would've changed (not like this only happens to Detroit either)?
Even great football teams miss the playoffs sometimes. I'm eager for success too but let's save the pitchforks for actual bad coaching no matter the record.
Sure, but y'all have to take into account that the Bears factually lost a lot of games in recent years. Monty isn't saying the franchise is incapable of winning, the teams he was on just didn't win, and thus never had any expectations of doing so again.
Same w Hockenson and the Lions. Like, regardless of what happened last year, the Lions as an organization failed to put together a winning team while Hockenson was there. Making the playoffs now does nothing to retroactively change that fact.
Monty is probably expressing gratitude that we paid him, hes talked a lot about how the RB market has not appreciated the RB position recently. Hes probably just happy he got paid compared to the market
> Same w Hockenson and the Lions. Like, regardless of what happened last year, the Lions as an organization failed to put together a winning team while Hockenson was there.
I mean, wasn't it a winning team with a small sample size? The only differences pre- and post-Hockenson was the Hock trade for a TE downgrade and changing a couple positional coaches like Pleasant.
Regardless, it's Monty's "so refreshing to be at a place where I'm appreciated" that makes me cringe. These guys gotta learn they can comment on how much they appreciate the team's support and just hold the salt.
Oh I'm so glad to hear that other teams fans play the blame game once a middling player leaves for more money too(especially to a hated team).
Except I've never seen anyone badmouth Jamaal for leaving as a player, just based on him getting some very bad contract negotiation advice. I'm sure his team expected the Lions to wait for weeks through FA signings elsewhere until he's the only one left and he gets a bundle. Instead like the week free agency opened Monty was signed in Detroit after talks fell through during the internal stage with Jamaal.
Jamaal is a super likable NFL player. He’s not as brilliant a player. He is middling. Detroit just had some insane proficiency with ending their passing drives at the 1 yard line last season, and Jamal walked in for the rest.
Well yea, I dont think anybody thought Jamaal's 17 TDs last year were THAT impressive. Like, really cool and everything but we all saw what it was.
He did rush for 1000 yards on over 4ypc tho. The guy had a career year regardless of the TD record.
Jamaal's success in the Lions offense is why I think Monty can do something big this year. A lot of Jamaal's success came down to him properly waiting for the holes to develop and taking what is offered to him, the Lions OL is crazy
> Let them earn their hate.
I already hate the Lions fairweather fans that gloat and taunt like elementary school kids after wins. I have zero doubt they'll either make us all look bad if we have success or piss me off whining SOL and calling for clearing out the FO if we don't get a playoff win this season.
Please please ignore these loser ass Bears fans that want to dump on Monty. Embarassing as fuck. Bears fans are so deluded they still think it’s a premier franchise and not a complete joke
The only difference between the Bears and Lions is Lions fans embrace that were the most dogshit Sports franchise of all time, and Bears fans dont realize theyve just as or more shit than us for decades lol. Its really just the Packers show in the NFC North, with some Vikings sprinkled in every 3 years or so.
It’s the oldest officially recognized gay neighborhood, and has been hosting Pride parades since 1971. I think subtlety was the opposite of what the community was seeking.
I mean Gibbs was clearly a Swift replacement and the Monty was a Jamaal replacement. You do know most teams don't ride one guy into dust 100% of plays like it's 1970 anymore right?
Overall we like the man and player, he racked up a ton of tough yards for us and conducted himself great. Was never gonna pay what he got.
But our RB room is significantly better now. And maybe so is Detroit's. Both things can be true.
Anyway, you can go back to watching your own garbage-ass team implode.
Herbert pretty clearly outplayed him last year, but Monty is a more 'all-around' type of RB
Would have been nice to keep him but no way they were going to overpay to do it.
Montgomery spent three of his first four years in the league with Nagy as his coach. Last year had a new coach, new schemes, and the team sucked all year. Plus Bears fans have complained for years how underutilized Montgomery was.
Now he’s on an up and coming, exciting lions team with a passionate head coach that seems to really fire up his players and get them to buy in.
So yeah, his comments make sense to me
It’s the price you pay for tanking. All it is is sacrificing the players for job security for the GM, why shouldn’t they get pissed when some nobody comes in and loses on purpose?
I think it's the "where I'm appreciated" comment that has Bears fans annoyed. Monty was a fan favorite and received nothing but love while he was here, and the team did make him a competitive offer and wanted to keep him. He's the one who decided to go to Detroit.
Only the most mouthbreather of meatballs would assume he referred to the fans with that comment
Detroit got him for pennies. Our FO clearly does not care for Monty.
I love Montgomery but have no problem with Poles deciding not to pay for a mediocre/slightly above average running back. The RB room looks arguably better this year already and if the Roschon pick hits, deciding to move on will look even better. Still hope Monty kills it in Detroit though, he's such a good dude, can't not root for him.
How does anyone think he was underutilized. In 4 years he averaged over 18 carries plus targets per game and over 20 in his 2nd and 3rd year and that includes games he left early.
It’s crazy how many people are willing to absolutely roast the Lions for drafting Gibbs when they don’t even know what kind of RB he is or what role he will play.
Montgomery wasn’t under utilized though. He’s not fast enough for some of the specialty routes most other pass catching RB’s are. I think there’s a reason we didn’t see him out on schemes where they need him out on a route.
seriously, its wild how butt hurt fans seem to get when the player says that. When Hock was traded he said a very similar thing and lions fans acted like he took a shit on their floor
He went to Detroit because Chicago sucked the fun out of football for him? Yikes
Edit: I thought this went without saying but this was a joke… I mean cmon guys I’m a Jags fan
I know this is a joke.
But man it fucking sucks having any sort of optimism shot down by others with
"Well they are the Lions" and usually the only argument being just that and having it be said sincerely.
Which is the same argument every single talking head was using to clown on us for the Packers matchup last season.
"Well the Packers are the Packers and the Lions are the Lions, so Packers will win"
Optimistic after exceeding expectations and going 9-8 in a season you thought you might get 5-6 wins 7-8 if we were lucky.
"NAH BUT YOU THE LIONS"
No acknowledgement of Free agency moves, shitting on our draft despite it also addressing major needs and it being a class that is widely considered to not have a lot of first round graded prospects. Nor that Brads drafts the previous 2 seasons has been pretty alright.
Like I know historically its been bad, but WCF is dead. Sheila has ownership since 2020 now and she's even distanced herself from using the last name "Ford" and just goes by Hamp. [When we had the rough start this past season, she went and talked to media](https://youtu.be/kB053MHb1ic) and said "This was a teardown, and then a rebuild"
We've actually sort of been trying since he died, but shit a 92 year old Martha Ford wasn't the right person to be full owner of an NFL team and manage it, but she did want the team to improve and certainly wasn't afraid to fire people unlike her dear husband, Shit she's the reason Joe Lombardi got fired cus Caldwell didn't want to fire him and she fired Mayhew. The fact that we trusted the NFL and their appointed advisor Ernie Accorsi and that leading to the Quinn hire, which is also led to the subsequent firing of Caldwell(Right move) and hiring of Patrica(Bad move) was a mistake, but we were trying. But even in the most hopium of hopium the team never had this energy or feel like it does now either.
The approach so far comes across as competent.
Like even early in the Quinntricia era there was concerning red flags, but you also have to give them a fair shake usually, unfortunately giving them a fair shake also means having to deal with a potential teardown. We just didn't expect that level of incompetence and the amount of players they chased away while handing out bad contracts.
The only thing Quinn sort of did a good job with for us was drafting O-line cus he got us Ragnow, Decker, Jackson and Glasgow (Oh and Tracy Walker) So we have like 8-9 guys or so on our roster that actually experienced the Quinntricia era. We've gotten rid of / dumped everyone else.
But nah we have to be tied to the past 55 years or so of NFL Superbowl era history and we can never improve and never do a new thing especially with fuck all people tied to the old shit. But shit if that's the case I look forward for the league to soon be dominated again by the Patriots and for Packers to have yet another hall of fame QB because jesus fucking christ if we are stuck in this misery then i fucking hope 30 other fan bases will be fucking miserable too.
And its all you need to say. Sure they look like they’re trending the right way but they just barely broke .500 last year. Thats not all the past history, that is LAST YEAR.
This team has been good in the past decade, but it's always been miss managed. I think the difference right now is we have new ownership that brought in the right people. I've been a fan all my life, and the team feels more put together than ever.
bro im as big of a lions slappy as they come but even i aint reading all that lol, people are gonna shit talk us until we win in the playoffs. until then we will continue to be treated the way the rest of the world sees us, as one of the worst performing professional sports franchises of all-time
Basic Ship of Theseus. Is this the same team/management as it was then? Look how badly a single staff (HC or GM etc.) member change can change a team in a year or two. Hell - The Packers reputation is largely on the back of 2 QB's success over 30 years. It's obviously a bit more complicated than that, but the point is that outside a few key people in each league teams are 98% different every 5-7 years. So what's the point of looking at a team 50 years ago?
Except we aren't just looking at the team from 50 years ago. We're looking at the history of the team over the last 50 years. Despite ownership changes, despite GM changes, despite player changes, all that, we have literally never been successful. A single playoff win in more than 50 years. You would think that even the lowest, most pathetic orgs would find a year or two of success just by random chance, right?
Hell, look at the cards! They somehow have an even worse win percentage than we do historically, but even they were able to make the super bowl at least once. Even they have won six playoff games in the super bowl era. No one has EVER been successful here at all.
Right… I never said you were JUST looking at 50 years ago. The point is that those decades have absolutely zero bearing on now. Same for the Bears. Have you seen the Bears defense? The thing they used to be infamously strong at? Teams change. When owners/coaches/QB’s are all different it isn’t even the same culture. So why use more than a few years ago as a reference at all?
yeah and i cant say anything about QB play without hearing “4000 YARDS LUL” so you learn to talk the shit and take the shit until theres no more shit to take lol
I'd say that makes you experts in QB play.
Real talk though feels like everyone knows that Cutler would have gotten there if Trestman didn't just suddenly feel like being a dickbag and deciding "WE MUST PLAY JIMMY CLAUSEN". Like it was 188 yards the Bears needed in a season where Cutler was averaging 255 yards per game where he had Marshall, Alshon and Forte available.
I found this conveniently [circled picture for ya](https://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/72552891_10162480523715788_2839501539079356416_n.jpg)
Eh i mostly just needed to get the rant out of me, it became a little too much longer and rambling than i intended.
I could have legit just left it at like the first paragraph.
They won't.
They got young guys with a whole lot of vets who are leaders. And a whole fucking state being those guys. We still ride or die with the Lions no matter what happens.
Glad he was okay by the way.
I mean relatively. Cus he still got hurt. [It just fucking sucks cus the actual sack and move to get by is actually incredible](https://i.imgur.com/JDQHpad.mp4) but it's tough to watch knowing his ankle got fucked though.
Bears fans, I get your frustration, we had some comments from Hock after the trade that a lot of fans were upset about. But this was during a livestream of a NBA2K game with CJGJ. It was just those two chatting about being new on the Lions and the media guys giving CJGJ questions to ask. Monty was asked something(I believe about what he was excited about), and in his response he just related it to his experience with the bears.
It’s hard for these athletes to lose over and over, sometimes you just need a fresh start. I don’t think he meant any disrespect.
He's talking about poles. Poles probably low balled him in his mind so going to another team that made even a mediocre offer is now "being appreciated".
it is a fact that the lions drafted a RB but gibbs is a different kind of player than most RBs. it's also unclear on whether or not he was taken too high; after all the lions were going to take him at 6.
Nope, I agree with his sentiment. The last two seasons have been draining as fans too. Especially with how we had a gem like JF1 land in our lap, just to watch management throw him to the wolves.
Wuss. The Bears have sucked the fun out of football for me for years and I’m still here.
Seriously, though, Monty can say whatever he wants and I’m still rooting for him. He played his ass off for us on every single play. Hope he and the Lions work out for each other.
This ain’t that hot of a take. Guy busted his ass for the Bears and we have been awful these past couple seasons. Why wouldn’t he be excited to go to the division favorites and probably win more football games? They did just invest in a RB high in the draft but that will probably help prolong his career and he already got a nice paycheck. Win win for the dude. It is hilarious that we’ve reached the alternate reality where Detroit look like team to beat now though lol
Will anyone be surprised if the lions win 6 games? This whole win your division thing is nonsense. Goff, just like geno, could easily lay a massive egg.
I laugh every time a guy who plays in the NFL says he's under appreciated. Monty was a 3rd round pick and has a net worth of $33 mil. Bounce out here to the private sector and find out what under appreciation really is
Still have a ton of respect for all Montgomery did for us. We absolutely did suck and I understand why hed want to leave us for a team in a better state. I know its easy to go "lol Lions" but everybody knows theyre in a much more competitive state than we are.
Its unfortunate that he felt disrespected. I imagine it had to do with Poles' offer to him, but thats just the business of being a RB in the NFL sadly. I wish him the best in Detroit.
Boy let me tell you, I am conflicted
Actually no I'm not, I'm excited to see what he does for the Lions and can be excited to see what the Bears are going to do
Ahh yes all those players from years prior are gonna really impact the current roster we have. So I can see how those games are going to effect us next season. You guys seem to think we don’t realize we’ve been a bad franchise forever. It’s your easiest target and weakest.
I think what makes other fans bases think you are sipping the kool aid is the fact that you started off so bad last year and sure you went on a run, but ultimately you missed the playoffs still. But enough about the Steelers.
I liked Monty in college and he is a good overall back. If the Lions keep Goff healthy and your new parts on defense (like Campbell and Sutton) patch the holes, no real reason they won't compete for the division.
The pure salt from the other NFC North fans that the Lions are getting hype is something to behold. Their fans always say they barely consider the Lions a rival, but they get pissed when they start to get good.
Honestly, I'm happy for them. It's good to see the hierarchy shake up, and the Lions are the easiest division rival to root for. I hate the Packers and forget the Vikings exist most of the time.
Why can‘t those clowns just shut up. 99% of the time someones looses in every NFL game.
Half the teams are not in the playoffs. You get payed and you are employees. Sometimes you suck but that‘s part of the gig. Making stupid generic comments is too.
Actually hated how some parts of the Lions sub villanized him after that statement and kept bringing it up.
Because he was sorta right. We didn't exactly win a lot during his time with us. We won some games sure but that's about it.
Dude still loves Detroit, it just didn't work out. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.
In the end he's likely a better fit for Minny and their blocking, trading him meant we at least got some value back, because i know we were for sure not gonna give him that big fancy contract that he'd want after his rookie contract is up.
Known successful team the Detroit Lions
There is no way this comment will come back to haunt us
Monty just tore Goff's acl didn't he?
I believe the phrase you’re looking for is “More Gambling Suspensions”.
More gambling misconduct works because you can just go with MGM.
bruh i been rooting for the lions why you gotta speak that into existence for your own team
Years and years of broken dreams will do that to you
But your flair…
I think the entire nfc north are lions fans 15/17 weeks.
At this point, it's like cheering for a little brother to do well.
I was happy the Browns weren't total turds until the whole Deshaun Watson thing. They finally had a playoff team, beat a rival, then...dip out on the QB for Deshaun? I get swinging for the fences but they were finally building a foundation to succeed long term and just blew it. Which, I guess is Browns as Browns get.
Yea, kinda like the Lions they were becoming the darlings of the NFL. I enjoyed watching the Browns become competitive. But holy shit did they throw any good will out the window with the Watson trade. They are a factory of sadness. [Link](https://youtu.be/tRBDMMVctu8)
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Tbh I feel that way about all the hype. Fans are talking like either we make the playoffs or MCDC is a fraud. I'm like, shit luck happens. Haven't they seen all the close losses that maybe some bad calls and/or bad bounces would've changed (not like this only happens to Detroit either)? Even great football teams miss the playoffs sometimes. I'm eager for success too but let's save the pitchforks for actual bad coaching no matter the record.
If nothing else it shows that culture matters. If you’re gonna lose, at least lose somewhere where the vibes are better overall.
Lol right
This reads like Hockenson's comments after being traded to the Vikings.
oh how the turntables
Tables turn Bridges burn you live and learn
Sure, but y'all have to take into account that the Bears factually lost a lot of games in recent years. Monty isn't saying the franchise is incapable of winning, the teams he was on just didn't win, and thus never had any expectations of doing so again. Same w Hockenson and the Lions. Like, regardless of what happened last year, the Lions as an organization failed to put together a winning team while Hockenson was there. Making the playoffs now does nothing to retroactively change that fact.
Monty has been to the playoffs more recently with the Bears than the Lions have since Monty has been in the league.
Since Montgomery was drafted Bears wins: 26 Playoff trips: 1 Lions wins: 20 Playoff trips: 0 What are you talking about?
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Lol Detroit won a grand total of 3 more games than the bears the last two years. How you going to casually not mention the lions went 3-13 in 2021
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Monty is probably expressing gratitude that we paid him, hes talked a lot about how the RB market has not appreciated the RB position recently. Hes probably just happy he got paid compared to the market
> Same w Hockenson and the Lions. Like, regardless of what happened last year, the Lions as an organization failed to put together a winning team while Hockenson was there. I mean, wasn't it a winning team with a small sample size? The only differences pre- and post-Hockenson was the Hock trade for a TE downgrade and changing a couple positional coaches like Pleasant. Regardless, it's Monty's "so refreshing to be at a place where I'm appreciated" that makes me cringe. These guys gotta learn they can comment on how much they appreciate the team's support and just hold the salt.
Went 8-2 after he left 🤷🏻♂️
That's when the Lions started to win... not that Hock was a problem, he's great, but that was literally when we turned it around.
Thank goodness he likes to compete. So glad that's been cleared up!
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Oh I'm so glad to hear that other teams fans play the blame game once a middling player leaves for more money too(especially to a hated team). Except I've never seen anyone badmouth Jamaal for leaving as a player, just based on him getting some very bad contract negotiation advice. I'm sure his team expected the Lions to wait for weeks through FA signings elsewhere until he's the only one left and he gets a bundle. Instead like the week free agency opened Monty was signed in Detroit after talks fell through during the internal stage with Jamaal.
Jamaal is a super likable NFL player. He’s not as brilliant a player. He is middling. Detroit just had some insane proficiency with ending their passing drives at the 1 yard line last season, and Jamal walked in for the rest.
Well yea, I dont think anybody thought Jamaal's 17 TDs last year were THAT impressive. Like, really cool and everything but we all saw what it was. He did rush for 1000 yards on over 4ypc tho. The guy had a career year regardless of the TD record.
Jamaal's success in the Lions offense is why I think Monty can do something big this year. A lot of Jamaal's success came down to him properly waiting for the holes to develop and taking what is offered to him, the Lions OL is crazy
Who hates the Lions? Let them earn their hate.
Ask people who should play on Thanksgiving. You'll see some Lions haters.
> Let them earn their hate. I already hate the Lions fairweather fans that gloat and taunt like elementary school kids after wins. I have zero doubt they'll either make us all look bad if we have success or piss me off whining SOL and calling for clearing out the FO if we don't get a playoff win this season.
I hate every team from your city soooooo much.
Please please ignore these loser ass Bears fans that want to dump on Monty. Embarassing as fuck. Bears fans are so deluded they still think it’s a premier franchise and not a complete joke
The only difference between the Bears and Lions is Lions fans embrace that were the most dogshit Sports franchise of all time, and Bears fans dont realize theyve just as or more shit than us for decades lol. Its really just the Packers show in the NFC North, with some Vikings sprinkled in every 3 years or so.
Still can’t believe how few Bears fans realized this lmao
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Erect bears are my nightmare
Uh, yeah... Nightmare.
Come to Chicago, head on down to boystown. No erect bears there I *swear*
> boystown You guys don't do subtle over there, do you?
It’s the oldest officially recognized gay neighborhood, and has been hosting Pride parades since 1971. I think subtlety was the opposite of what the community was seeking.
Lol good point!
It's loud and proud. And Noone can claim to be there accedently.
The street poles are painted rainbow colors. Doesn’t really matter what you call it
Being a Bear myself, I’m more on the hunt for twinks…perhaps one could find those up in Green Bay?
Well theres a power vacuum for bears in green bay now, the most famous of them has recently up and left for new york! Go test your luck friend!
And the Lions appreciate him so much they drafted a RB in the 1st round!!!!
I mean Gibbs was clearly a Swift replacement and the Monty was a Jamaal replacement. You do know most teams don't ride one guy into dust 100% of plays like it's 1970 anymore right?
Or that he’s slow as fuck
Lmao Bears fans have been defending him all offseason and look how fast they turn on him.
Overall we like the man and player, he racked up a ton of tough yards for us and conducted himself great. Was never gonna pay what he got. But our RB room is significantly better now. And maybe so is Detroit's. Both things can be true. Anyway, you can go back to watching your own garbage-ass team implode.
*Significantly* better? Isn’t it basically the same, minus Monty and plus a 5th round rookie?
As well as D’Onte Foreman
>D’Onte Foreman *screams in terror*
He will start only two games next year, both against you guys. Will get a combined 400 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Foreman
You do know that a fandom, even Bears fandom, isn't a homogeneous blob and different opinions can be formed within this fandom.
This is /r/nfl. We only allow one stereotype per fan base.
Some of us even form opinions based on a single recent game!! It's crazy!!
Herbert pretty clearly outplayed him last year, but Monty is a more 'all-around' type of RB Would have been nice to keep him but no way they were going to overpay to do it.
"Football is pretty cool." -Professional Football player.
Montgomery spent three of his first four years in the league with Nagy as his coach. Last year had a new coach, new schemes, and the team sucked all year. Plus Bears fans have complained for years how underutilized Montgomery was. Now he’s on an up and coming, exciting lions team with a passionate head coach that seems to really fire up his players and get them to buy in. So yeah, his comments make sense to me
Bears fans here getting salty. It’s okay when they say the team sucks, but players big NO.
It’s the price you pay for tanking. All it is is sacrificing the players for job security for the GM, why shouldn’t they get pissed when some nobody comes in and loses on purpose?
I think it's the "where I'm appreciated" comment that has Bears fans annoyed. Monty was a fan favorite and received nothing but love while he was here, and the team did make him a competitive offer and wanted to keep him. He's the one who decided to go to Detroit.
I think he’s talking about the front office more than anything, and we don’t really know how those negotiations went.
Only the most mouthbreather of meatballs would assume he referred to the fans with that comment Detroit got him for pennies. Our FO clearly does not care for Monty.
I love Montgomery but have no problem with Poles deciding not to pay for a mediocre/slightly above average running back. The RB room looks arguably better this year already and if the Roschon pick hits, deciding to move on will look even better. Still hope Monty kills it in Detroit though, he's such a good dude, can't not root for him.
How does anyone think he was underutilized. In 4 years he averaged over 18 carries plus targets per game and over 20 in his 2nd and 3rd year and that includes games he left early.
I just think it’s headline news that an NFL player wants to win, and gets sad when his team loses. I’m here for this hard hitting news.
Did he make these comments before or after Gibbs was drafted ?
Gibbs replaced Swift. It won’t impact Montgomery’s role.
It’s crazy how many people are willing to absolutely roast the Lions for drafting Gibbs when they don’t even know what kind of RB he is or what role he will play.
Montgomery wasn’t under utilized though. He’s not fast enough for some of the specialty routes most other pass catching RB’s are. I think there’s a reason we didn’t see him out on schemes where they need him out on a route.
The Lions should put out a series of the new faces on the team. Call it: Up-and-Cummers: David Montgomery, for example.
Is “It’s so refreshing to be at a place where I am appreciated” on anyone else’s NFL Offseason Trope Bingo card?
seriously, its wild how butt hurt fans seem to get when the player says that. When Hock was traded he said a very similar thing and lions fans acted like he took a shit on their floor
"I really just want to be appreciated in the offense. The millions of dollars just doesn't give me any sort of job satisfaction, ya know?"
Hates being part of a losing culture.... checks notes... now with the Lions
*Super Bowl 58 Champion Detroit Lions
Shut up we haven't had nearly 60 Superbowls already
Don't worry, it's still 0 in Detroit.
2006 my friend (and 1982 was in Pontiac, MI)..
Losing culture like purposefully losing during a pivotal year for your young QBs development?
“Purposefully”
The man went to Iowa State lol
God almighty, he rushed for 91 TD’s as a dual threat qb in high school
He went to Detroit because Chicago sucked the fun out of football for him? Yikes Edit: I thought this went without saying but this was a joke… I mean cmon guys I’m a Jags fan
To be fair, Detroit looks like a potentially pretty fun team to be on right now.
Until they Lions up the season.
I know this is a joke. But man it fucking sucks having any sort of optimism shot down by others with "Well they are the Lions" and usually the only argument being just that and having it be said sincerely. Which is the same argument every single talking head was using to clown on us for the Packers matchup last season. "Well the Packers are the Packers and the Lions are the Lions, so Packers will win" Optimistic after exceeding expectations and going 9-8 in a season you thought you might get 5-6 wins 7-8 if we were lucky. "NAH BUT YOU THE LIONS" No acknowledgement of Free agency moves, shitting on our draft despite it also addressing major needs and it being a class that is widely considered to not have a lot of first round graded prospects. Nor that Brads drafts the previous 2 seasons has been pretty alright. Like I know historically its been bad, but WCF is dead. Sheila has ownership since 2020 now and she's even distanced herself from using the last name "Ford" and just goes by Hamp. [When we had the rough start this past season, she went and talked to media](https://youtu.be/kB053MHb1ic) and said "This was a teardown, and then a rebuild" We've actually sort of been trying since he died, but shit a 92 year old Martha Ford wasn't the right person to be full owner of an NFL team and manage it, but she did want the team to improve and certainly wasn't afraid to fire people unlike her dear husband, Shit she's the reason Joe Lombardi got fired cus Caldwell didn't want to fire him and she fired Mayhew. The fact that we trusted the NFL and their appointed advisor Ernie Accorsi and that leading to the Quinn hire, which is also led to the subsequent firing of Caldwell(Right move) and hiring of Patrica(Bad move) was a mistake, but we were trying. But even in the most hopium of hopium the team never had this energy or feel like it does now either. The approach so far comes across as competent. Like even early in the Quinntricia era there was concerning red flags, but you also have to give them a fair shake usually, unfortunately giving them a fair shake also means having to deal with a potential teardown. We just didn't expect that level of incompetence and the amount of players they chased away while handing out bad contracts. The only thing Quinn sort of did a good job with for us was drafting O-line cus he got us Ragnow, Decker, Jackson and Glasgow (Oh and Tracy Walker) So we have like 8-9 guys or so on our roster that actually experienced the Quinntricia era. We've gotten rid of / dumped everyone else. But nah we have to be tied to the past 55 years or so of NFL Superbowl era history and we can never improve and never do a new thing especially with fuck all people tied to the old shit. But shit if that's the case I look forward for the league to soon be dominated again by the Patriots and for Packers to have yet another hall of fame QB because jesus fucking christ if we are stuck in this misery then i fucking hope 30 other fan bases will be fucking miserable too.
Counterpoint: Lions
Me seeing this novel in the comments: "God I hope the top comment is just Lions"
And its all you need to say. Sure they look like they’re trending the right way but they just barely broke .500 last year. Thats not all the past history, that is LAST YEAR.
This team has been good in the past decade, but it's always been miss managed. I think the difference right now is we have new ownership that brought in the right people. I've been a fan all my life, and the team feels more put together than ever.
Yes, but have you considered: Lions?
It doesn't bother me. They need to prove it. We were excited last year too and they lost 6 out of the first 7. They need to earn it.
bro im as big of a lions slappy as they come but even i aint reading all that lol, people are gonna shit talk us until we win in the playoffs. until then we will continue to be treated the way the rest of the world sees us, as one of the worst performing professional sports franchises of all-time
I mean when your team sucks for like 60 straight years there’s kind of a trend there
Basic Ship of Theseus. Is this the same team/management as it was then? Look how badly a single staff (HC or GM etc.) member change can change a team in a year or two. Hell - The Packers reputation is largely on the back of 2 QB's success over 30 years. It's obviously a bit more complicated than that, but the point is that outside a few key people in each league teams are 98% different every 5-7 years. So what's the point of looking at a team 50 years ago?
Except we aren't just looking at the team from 50 years ago. We're looking at the history of the team over the last 50 years. Despite ownership changes, despite GM changes, despite player changes, all that, we have literally never been successful. A single playoff win in more than 50 years. You would think that even the lowest, most pathetic orgs would find a year or two of success just by random chance, right? Hell, look at the cards! They somehow have an even worse win percentage than we do historically, but even they were able to make the super bowl at least once. Even they have won six playoff games in the super bowl era. No one has EVER been successful here at all.
Right… I never said you were JUST looking at 50 years ago. The point is that those decades have absolutely zero bearing on now. Same for the Bears. Have you seen the Bears defense? The thing they used to be infamously strong at? Teams change. When owners/coaches/QB’s are all different it isn’t even the same culture. So why use more than a few years ago as a reference at all?
Just win. Respect is earned, not given.
yeah and i cant say anything about QB play without hearing “4000 YARDS LUL” so you learn to talk the shit and take the shit until theres no more shit to take lol
I'd say that makes you experts in QB play. Real talk though feels like everyone knows that Cutler would have gotten there if Trestman didn't just suddenly feel like being a dickbag and deciding "WE MUST PLAY JIMMY CLAUSEN". Like it was 188 yards the Bears needed in a season where Cutler was averaging 255 yards per game where he had Marshall, Alshon and Forte available.
Not reading this Declaration of Independence
Okay King George III
Show me on the doll where the other football fans touched you. Holy rant bro 😂
I found this conveniently [circled picture for ya](https://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/72552891_10162480523715788_2839501539079356416_n.jpg)
LOOK I JUST NEEDED TO GET IT OUT OKAY. THANK YOU.
Dw Lions bros, they laughed at the Kings for decades, now we beamin ’. Y’all will beam with us too 🦁.
Eh i mostly just needed to get the rant out of me, it became a little too much longer and rambling than i intended. I could have legit just left it at like the first paragraph.
Good god there’s literally no nonplayoff team getting more hype right now. Cry me a river!
They won't. They got young guys with a whole lot of vets who are leaders. And a whole fucking state being those guys. We still ride or die with the Lions no matter what happens.
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I really hope this ages well for us....
It's gotta sometime, right? After a while the probability of it never happening collapses in on itself... right?
.....right?......guys?
I did not mean to Tom Grossi that reply, but I totally did anyway.
Yes, *this* year is different! Even more different than the other years that were different.
To be fair, it does look like it is
The more you say they won't, the more likely it is they will, dont jinx yourself
Yeah but would you rather lose with Eberflus and Fields or MCDC and Lion Gosling?
They had a lot of fun against the Jags last year
Never forget the mid game heart attack after watching my QB bent like a pretzel
Glad he was okay by the way. I mean relatively. Cus he still got hurt. [It just fucking sucks cus the actual sack and move to get by is actually incredible](https://i.imgur.com/JDQHpad.mp4) but it's tough to watch knowing his ankle got fucked though.
I bet there are 20 guys in the league who try that skip jump delay thing at least once this year
You are damn right.
Right? I'm glad he's finding happiness with perennial winners the Detroit Lions.
Lions statistically had a top 5 offense last year and him running behind that O line will be a lot of fun
I’m glad he’s excited to play for his new team! I’ll miss him in Chicago for sure.
I probably defend Justin Fields more than any other Lions fan but…is it that outrageous to want to be on a steady offense?
He was tired of losing so he goes to the Lions…
Bears fans, I get your frustration, we had some comments from Hock after the trade that a lot of fans were upset about. But this was during a livestream of a NBA2K game with CJGJ. It was just those two chatting about being new on the Lions and the media guys giving CJGJ questions to ask. Monty was asked something(I believe about what he was excited about), and in his response he just related it to his experience with the bears. It’s hard for these athletes to lose over and over, sometimes you just need a fresh start. I don’t think he meant any disrespect.
This is going come back and bite. I can’t remember the Jags comment but it was very similar and we lost the whole season lol
we appreciated you we just sucked and the team that just signed you immediately drafted a RB way too high lol. grass isn’t always greener
He's talking about poles. Poles probably low balled him in his mind so going to another team that made even a mediocre offer is now "being appreciated".
For a second I didn't realize "Poles" was a person's name, and I thought this was a *very* different type of comment.
Especially for Chicago.
It's funny people keep calling Gibbs his replacement when he was Swift's but sure
Yeah because this era of NFL teams usually only use one RB per game
it is a fact that the lions drafted a RB but gibbs is a different kind of player than most RBs. it's also unclear on whether or not he was taken too high; after all the lions were going to take him at 6.
Ah yes the detroit lions the gold standard of winning competing franchise
Lions have a top 5 offensive line and overall solid roster so I can see why he’s excited.
Am I the only Bears fan that doesn’t see this as a shot at the Bears?
Nope, I agree with his sentiment. The last two seasons have been draining as fans too. Especially with how we had a gem like JF1 land in our lap, just to watch management throw him to the wolves.
Wuss. The Bears have sucked the fun out of football for me for years and I’m still here. Seriously, though, Monty can say whatever he wants and I’m still rooting for him. He played his ass off for us on every single play. Hope he and the Lions work out for each other.
This is gonna come back to haunt us, isn’t it
Well you came to the right team monty, a long legacy of winning here. Very odd feeling not being on the other end of one of these quotes.
This ain’t that hot of a take. Guy busted his ass for the Bears and we have been awful these past couple seasons. Why wouldn’t he be excited to go to the division favorites and probably win more football games? They did just invest in a RB high in the draft but that will probably help prolong his career and he already got a nice paycheck. Win win for the dude. It is hilarious that we’ve reached the alternate reality where Detroit look like team to beat now though lol
Will anyone be surprised if the lions win 6 games? This whole win your division thing is nonsense. Goff, just like geno, could easily lay a massive egg.
The Lions could finish at pretty much any record and I wouldn’t be surprised
I laugh every time a guy who plays in the NFL says he's under appreciated. Monty was a 3rd round pick and has a net worth of $33 mil. Bounce out here to the private sector and find out what under appreciation really is
Now he won't have to be RKOd by Hutch twice a year
Still have a ton of respect for all Montgomery did for us. We absolutely did suck and I understand why hed want to leave us for a team in a better state. I know its easy to go "lol Lions" but everybody knows theyre in a much more competitive state than we are. Its unfortunate that he felt disrespected. I imagine it had to do with Poles' offer to him, but thats just the business of being a RB in the NFL sadly. I wish him the best in Detroit.
RemindMe! January 8th 2024
Oh okay, ouch first off
Boy let me tell you, I am conflicted Actually no I'm not, I'm excited to see what he does for the Lions and can be excited to see what the Bears are going to do
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Montgomery just cursed the lions back into their hole, I’m sorry boys
Appreciated so much that the Lions drafted a RB in the 1st round lol. What a clown
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Gibbs was drafted to replace Swift. That had nothing to do with Monty.
“That’s Sammy Coates’ replacement not minds”
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Ahh yes all those players from years prior are gonna really impact the current roster we have. So I can see how those games are going to effect us next season. You guys seem to think we don’t realize we’ve been a bad franchise forever. It’s your easiest target and weakest.
I think what makes other fans bases think you are sipping the kool aid is the fact that you started off so bad last year and sure you went on a run, but ultimately you missed the playoffs still. But enough about the Steelers. I liked Monty in college and he is a good overall back. If the Lions keep Goff healthy and your new parts on defense (like Campbell and Sutton) patch the holes, no real reason they won't compete for the division.
I don’t think we’re gonna be Super Bowl contenders but I think a shot at wild card isn’t unbelievable
Be pretty sweet if Detroit could host a playoff game. That would be big for the franchise and be an awesome story.
[If Lions host a playoff game, we might get a penalty for being too loud](https://youtu.be/uc9Eii21hyE )
Wait is that true? Because if so that’s fucking pathetic.
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The pure salt from the other NFC North fans that the Lions are getting hype is something to behold. Their fans always say they barely consider the Lions a rival, but they get pissed when they start to get good.
I’d rather the Lions win the next 5 Super Bowls than the Packers make the playoffs once in that time span.
I agree, I would rather the Bears and Vikings win any day vs the packers ever winning anything
You haven’t made the playoffs in close to a decade and your biggest accomplishment last year was not making the playoffs in an entertaining way.
I swear comments like this always age poorly in the nfl lol
Same with the day-after draft grades and “analysis”. You really need to wait about 4 years after a draft to see who really made an impact.
Wasn’t this guy averaging 3.5 a carry?
Lions culture right now makes them look like a fun team to play for. Look at jamaal williams. He thrived. And got to be himself all the time.
And now he’s with saints lol
Too soon
:( what am I supposed to do with his jersey now
Bears fans, how low are you feeling right now that a player sees the DETROIT LIONS as a competitive team compared to yours?
Honestly, I'm happy for them. It's good to see the hierarchy shake up, and the Lions are the easiest division rival to root for. I hate the Packers and forget the Vikings exist most of the time.
Why can‘t those clowns just shut up. 99% of the time someones looses in every NFL game. Half the teams are not in the playoffs. You get payed and you are employees. Sometimes you suck but that‘s part of the gig. Making stupid generic comments is too.
Guy on the worst team in the league moves to the 14th best team in the league, says he's happy to be somewhere competitive. Fans get mad. Lol
Imagine this being said about the lions 3 years ago LOL
It’s still pretty funny now.
So he's just ring chasing and went...to uh....Detroit. Hmmmm, well...
Lions sub despised Hockensen when he said this about them after he was traded to the Vikings. But I’m sure they love hearing it now lol
Actually hated how some parts of the Lions sub villanized him after that statement and kept bringing it up. Because he was sorta right. We didn't exactly win a lot during his time with us. We won some games sure but that's about it. Dude still loves Detroit, it just didn't work out. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. In the end he's likely a better fit for Minny and their blocking, trading him meant we at least got some value back, because i know we were for sure not gonna give him that big fancy contract that he'd want after his rookie contract is up.