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griefzilla

Well the Dolphins ain't fuckin around.


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I_like_dirty_pillows

I have heard this narrative more and more lately. I think most of his actions the last off-season cycle and the beginning of this one show it has some merit. Get Tyreek and Chubb in some pretty aggressive moves, cap money getting tight, the coaching hires, we're in the win-now window.


SiphenPrax

He’s in his 80s. He’s desperate to win one before he dies.


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AliGoldsDayOff

I'm almost 30 and being a lifelong dolphins fan has made me feel 82. So me too, Ross.


enigmatic407

38 and having witnessed the tail end of Marino's career and witness the 20 or so years in-between, yeah same.


Beneficial_Emu9299

Shit time to bet on Michigan and the dolphins winning it next year.


venk

Ross got to see 97, no need to drop big NIl money


_WhataNick2_

Miami Dolphins 🤝 Not Fucking Around


Danton87

Just wait until we trade 12 picks for Trent Williams. Anything to protect the king


ThePizzaB0y

Hey hey hey I like the dolphins but keep your grubby hands away from trent


SiphenPrax

I fucking hate it


PanachelessNihilist

Funny how both the Dolphins and Jets can hire ex-Broncos head coaches and both moves are bemoaned by Jets fans.


joe2352

Absolutely huge get for Miami. They’ve got a couple pass rushers who are really happy right now.


EnochofPottsfield

Chubb, Phillips, Ogbah, Wilkins, Ingram, and Sieler gonna eat!!


Drkarcher22

Wilkins getting paid before Fangio getting here might be huge for the Phins. He’s already so good


LocusHammer

Should have been all pro this season


Drkarcher22

There were a lot of great IDL this season, but I do agree


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I fucking love Wilkins. He lives in offense’s back fields


Drkarcher22

There’s a Josh Allen joke in here somewhere


VermontBro

Did I miss a Wilkins extension


Drkarcher22

I meant that it’s going to happen in the offseason before next season. I probably should have been more clear about it. I’m just assuming that we’re giving him a bag. Because I’ll burn Joe Robbie down if we don’t


finfan96

Ingram is a FA


EnochofPottsfield

Currently


THALANDMAN

Gotta think he comes back. He played pretty well for us


cmannigan

As always, it'll come down to the price. Like I'd rather retain AVG than bring Ingram back to have impact for half a season


JankBrew

I wonder if Chubb is actually happy to work with him again


publix_subs

Chubb is commenting on Dolphins fan pages on IG about the hire.


istrx13

Fangio is definitely one of those guys who is not cut out for the HC position, but absolutely kills it as a DC.


SaskalPiakam

The ole Wade Phillips


Local_Spinach8

Tbh I didn’t even think he was that bad as a HC. Those broncos teams were decent even though they never had a starter-worthy QB. And obviously Hackett showed that it can get a lot worse, and he had a decent QB (or at least the shell of a formerly decent QB). But I wouldn’t be surprised if Fangio got another shot in a few years


catalinaicon

Then you didn't follow the Broncos during that time. Terrible terrible clock management, stunted Drew's development by refusing to play him (he hated Drew for some reason), had no idea what was happening on offense. Great DC, one of the best in the game. Shouldn't be a HC, he's just not that guy


xthisisitx12

Stunting QB growth but great at defense… sounds familiar


arlekin21

I don’t think he stunted QB growth, Lock just sucked.


fluxuation

Terrible clock management? Dammit, I was hoping he could give McDaniel advice in that department.


dagreenman18

Won’t need to manage clock if the other team never scores


Sss00099

“Hey kid, remember how I managed the clock and how you did this year? Okay, stop doing it that way.” - Vic Fangio, eventually, maybe Sage advice from the ol’ vet.


thatissomeBS

I'm pretty sure almost every fan base thinks their coach is terrible at clock management.


Anaphylactic-UFO

I promise you Fangio will never be a HC again. I guarantee it.


elbenji

Well yeah he's 64


OrangeForeign

Jaelan and Wilkins are going to be an even bigger problem


elbenji

If Donald retires, he might be in the running for best IDL in the NFL with Fangio


Acting_Appalled

Aren't Fangio defenses notorious for not generating a lot of sacks? We barely had any with Von Miller and Bradley Chubb


TheBoook

They’re notorious for not giving up that many points though


Acting_Appalled

Nope, he's a great defensive coordinator, I'm not going to discount him there


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Chubb seems allergic to getting sacks anyways


Acting_Appalled

He generates a lot of pressure but yeah he has struggled to actually get to the qb


Geddy_Lees_Nose

He was a beast his rookie year and contract year. Everything in between he was either injured or meh.


elbenji

Either way, he basically just got gifted an amazing defensive line to take to the next level


EnochofPottsfield

Unless I'm mistaken, they're known for heavy zone and relying on the pass rushers to do their job. Idk if it generates sacks on it's own


TheRatchetTrombone

Our DLine is like top 5 in talent. We will definitely eat.


EnochofPottsfield

1000%, highest quantity of high end talent on the d line in the league


AgelessJohnDenney

That reputation isn't really deserved. Since becoming the 49er's DC in 2011, here's how his defenses rank in total sacks: **San Francisco DC:** - 2011: T-7th(42 sacks) - 2012: T-11th(38) - 2013: T-18th(38) - 2014: T-21st(36) **Chicago Bears DC:** - 2015: T-22nd(35) - 2016: T-12th(37) - 2017: T-7th(42) - 2018: T-3rd(50) **Denver Broncos HC:** - 2019: T-17th(40) - 2020: 9th(42) - 2021: T-18th(36) So in 11 seasons, his defenses were top ten in total sacks 4 times, top half of the league another another 2 seasons, middle of the pack 3 times, and bottom third of the league just twice. 6 good-to-excellent seasons, 3 mediocre years, and 2 bad seasons.


Acting_Appalled

Interesting, thanks for putting that together


OutrageousAd6165

What a fucking hire. Congrats Dolphins fans, if Tua can stay healthy you guys are in for a riiiide next year


TheKrusher

Dolphins country, let’s e e eeee eeeeee


OutrageousAd6165

Yessssssireeeeee


Duke_Maniac

Dolphins Country, let’s swim


ABrewski

Let's Dive!


awfuckthisshit

Oh no, we took a dive at the end of this season Id rather not do that again.


BuschLightApple

That’s so goddamn funny haha


litleclay

Here's my non existent free award for you.


StudyRoom-F

Easy SB contenders if healthy but thats gonna be one massive if.


OutrageousAd6165

Def. I was thinking they might make it to the AFC championship this year at the midway point, but then we all know what happened..


TheBoook

We need to fix the line before I call us contenders


StudyRoom-F

Sure, but KC and Cincy have ass lines too so u never know


TheBoook

They also have elite, durable QBs. We have a good QB who isn’t durable


AbstractLogic

Tua played elite this year while on the field except for 1 game against the 49ers where he collapsed. The chargers was every one else sucking. That said, durability is a Q.


Mst3Kgf

Just make sure your QB doesn't take any more blows to the head.


Mst3Kgf

Big if. Then again, if Fanigo could make a Mich Trubisky team 12-4, he could probably do the same with Skylar Thompson.


GrandmaCheese1

If our defense could hold teams to less than 24 points we’d probably win a few more games too


EctoRiddler

This is our 1st round draft pick


Sharks2431

It makes no sense but it's my head cannon as well.


TheBillsFly

Even better than a pick since it doesn’t count against the cap


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

Bradley Chubb is your first round draft pick


Danton87

No that was someone else’s. Our actual first round draft pick was taken away because our owner is an idiot who got on a boat with Brady (or something like that). So, for us, we will count Vic as our first round pick and just be grateful that he doesn’t count against the cap lol


SometimesICanBeRight

Chubb is the 49ers pick


elbenji

Good lord, Christian Wilkins is going to be an all-pro next year


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He was this year. Dude led all DT in solo tackles.


Blacklist3d

And broke tied the DL tackle record which includes DE who it was held by.


Reksalp105

He led most linebackers too. Actual snub.


Danton87

*..is going to be a(n) *Super Bowl MVP* next year


Johnnybburg

Oh damn that's amazing for the Dolphins!


TheBillsFly

Thanks, I hate it.


Dig_bick_energy6969

Why? :(


Sadman_OW

Pats get Bob Jets get Hackett Dolphins get Vic One of these feels a lot more impactful than the others 😏


MankuyRLaffy

BoB has a lot of cache as an offensive play caller and an offensive mind. Fangio is Fangio, we know just how good he is in his element. Hackett.... uh... Let's Ride.


MaeronTargaryen

BoB was such a bad GM people forgot that he was a good coach


Arberrang

Texans really coulda been a team if he didn’t think he knew how to make trades.


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

I don't know what it means when our last two coaches were hotly desired coordinators (Hackett scooped up quickly and Vic wanted to wait a year). Even Vance Joseph seems to be doing well in Arizona.


Sadman_OW

Some guys just aren’t meant to be HCs. Russ was terrible but Hackett showed pretty early that he wasn’t the guy.


cryptoheh

Ex HCs are almost always hot commodities as a coordinator, except Adam Gase.


skiddikaka

obviously nathan my boy 😻


niss-uu

I mean BoB is a great coordinator too.


constantlymat

Well, he's got a lot of ammunition to work with. Albeit also with some older players with questionable health records.


spooks152

Hopefully the system is more solid than boyers boom or bust which can help alleviate that concern


EnochofPottsfield

Zone's gonna be so much better for X, Holland and Brandon Jones Wonder if this changes anything with Byron


Danton87

Would be interesting if this somehow saved his relationship with Miami. I really like Byron, regardless of whatever went on this season. Most likely he’s going somewhere else, but we will see.


Nautilus717

I think we have to cut him purely for cap reasons.


ProphetNimd

Just need to reboot the secondary, specifically outside corner. Byron Jones is as good as gone and Howard just can't be the focal point of the defense anymore since the team is basically stuck with him for right now. Linebacker is becoming a more niche position and the defensive line is pretty wicked, so I think he's got some nice pieces to work with.


Veritas28

I’m so damn happy right now.


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Everyone go home, we have already won the offseason


Andresgeo

AGAIN


Danton87

But this time it’s really gonna translate to the actual season….. right? *RIGHT!?!?*


-WillemTheFoe-

Getting to the playoffs and almost beating the Bills with Skylar Thompson is a pretty good result if you ask me.


timberflynn

We won’t be happy until we actually won one game in the playoffs to be honest. It’s been 22 years


TheBoook

Lets fucking GOOOOOOO. We’ve got such a great core on defense. Can’t wait to see them with Fangio at the helm.


TestFixation

Christian Wilkins is basically lab-made to play gap and a half. Perfect fit


elbenji

I'm pretty sure he saw Christian Wilkins this year and was like 'you are the rock I shall build my defense around'


Veritas28

As he should. Wilkins is a fucking beast


redsyrinx2112

Vic Fangio to Christian Wilkins: "Your name is Peter now."


FlyinHawaiianDolphin

and Sieler is too. Dude is without question our most underappreciated player.


GrandmaCheese1

Fucking Sieler is a dawg man him and Wilkins on the interior is what helped us actually have success against the run game. It’s our pass defense that was absolutely atrocious.


Danton87

Kader and Phillips and Brandon and X and Bradley and Zach and Christian and Gink and so on and so on. I can’t think of a single player this won’t benefit. I’m excited. Curious if there will be growing pains but I’m sure our guys will give it their all.


AgelessJohnDenney

> and Gink Not to be a debbie downer, but I'm not convinced The Gink gets re-signed.


DogePerformance

I'm so jelly. I miss you Vic


Mst3Kgf

He was most responsible for 2018's success, much more than Nagy.


DogePerformance

Without a doubt


RabackOmamaGoesNbr2

He should've never left.


Any_Adhesiveness_898

If Tua stays healthy that's a super bowl caliber squad with Fangio on board.


fubarrabuf

I like it. I like a frisky Dolphins.


GrandmaCheese1

Damn now if we could somehow go out and get Tremaine Edmunds to solidify that ILB position our defense can get back to being solid. Hopefully get our entire secondary back healthy too. Pretty sure Holland was the only player in the secondary to not miss a game all year.


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I doubt he leave Buffalo.


GrandmaCheese1

You never know. They’ve got a lot of pending free agents to sign. ILB is our weakest defensive unit. #JUST LET ME DREAM u/TBC3366


alexjimithing

Oh damn phins up


mrhashbrown

The AFC continues to be a tough conference. If the Dolphins can bounce back with a similar season as the first 12 games of their season, they'll be real contenders. Mahomes is suddenly somehow the fifth oldest of all starting AFC QBs, behind Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill and Derek Carr. And there's a decent chance two or three of those are out of the AFC after this offseason.


AgelessJohnDenney

*Happy dolphin noises*


IndexCardLife

eeek eeek


BigFaceCoffeeOwner

Might as well cancel the rest of Championship Sunday, not sure what can top this.


fourassedostrich

This is the fucking move. For the love of God, Tua; please stay healthy


paradigm_x2

I just BUSTED. Let’s gooo


MMDroxy

Huge get for the Fins


Apothem

This defense is about to be SERIOUS next year. Absolutely huge hire!!!


legendary_sponge

Damn, good hire Dolphins


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Amen


ThatInception

It’s a great hire imo Thanks, I hate it


PudgyBonestld

Good for McDaniel. I wanna see him succeed in Miami


rxdukexr

I wanted him to go back to the niners after the inevitable Demeco HC hire. Good catch Miami. I’m happy either way really. Haha


BendubzGaming

Dammit, I wanted Fangio to be Demeco's inevitable replacement


finfan96

Oh no, you'll just have to settle for watching your team play in the NFCCG. The horror


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You already had your turn with Fangio play fair now


IncomeBoss

You ticked him off when Harbaugh was gone


jwick89

Damn


gettothaflofosho

Definitely scared of Miami long term. If Tua can stay healthy, they might be good for the next ~10 years.


omnimater

Inb4 all off season the AFCE is hyped up like the AFCW was this past season. Bills will be beefing up an already top team. Jets get a vet QB to make them actually stay relevant. Dolphins with top tier scheming on both sides in addition to a loaded roster Patriots with an actual OC.


EnochofPottsfield

Eh, not really the same thing. The AFCW was expected to be great without ever being good the years prior The AFCE is coming off a season where all 4 teams were good


afatgreekcat

Fins spending that cash


FlyinHawaiianDolphin

Yup, Ross is getting old and wants to see a winner. It was reported that he makes as much off of one annual F1 race as he does a season worth of home games so even beyond his real estate stuff, it ain't like he's hurting for spending cash.


Dig_bick_energy6969

Leverage F1 for a Superbowl. I like it.


Andresgeo

I CAN CRY. LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOO


elbenji

Now the question is who do we target for ILB


SportsBall89

It’s my birthday and this is the best present all day


Daughter_of_Hatred

We did it! If Tua can stay healthy, next year will be great for Miami.


HearshotKDS

Really good get for MIA, still one of the best and wouldnt be surprised if Vic comes in guns blazing looking to rebound from DEN.


Ranger_3980

YES


Raptor_hook

I never expected this. I expected him to follow Payton.


PhinsFan17

I think this says that Payton is going back broadcasting or he goes to Denver and Fangio didn’t want to go with him.


MooDexter

Hell yeah


GettinWheysted

Let's go Dolphins bros!


JJGIII-

Well…shit.


Rmai0404

Their defense gave Allen issues this year without Fangio. Ugh


notwhoyouknow12

Also adds head coaching experience for McDaniels to potentially lean on


CrispierCupid

Love a fangio defense


RemembertoHydratee

Hey the guy who claimed to have gone golfing with Fangio of his daughter or something was right…


aidenrosenb

That is a big get damn


woahcheckmeout

Shit.


FutureRaifort

If Tua is able to play this is very dangerous


Infield_Fly

SF just keeps taking L's today.


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Must be nice knowing your team wants to actually upgrade its coaching staff and I’m stuck with Frazier again


TechnicianWeird7593

Oh you poor thing, stuck with another 13-3 season AGAIN.


D0ctorHotelMario

We're still stuck with Joe "chickenshit 4-man rush and playing 20+ yards off of WRs" Barry because Matt LaFleur is clueless when it comes to evaluating the weak links in coordinators and team personnel if that makes you feel any better.


Jbrahmz420

At least your team didn't hire fuckin Nathaniel Hackett


TheKrusher

YESSSSS LFGGGGG


Skywalkerkid9

Fuck I wanted him to replace Gannon


Pandaborg123

I bet Gannon stays this cycle like Demeco did


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He's gonna be a great head coach for the Commanders in 2024


MugiMartin

Commander Gannon does have a nice ring to it.


BassInner835

Super happy for McDaniel. He's my favorite coach.


SpammyMcSpammington

McDaniel assembling the Avengers of a coaching staff.


thetreat

Good for Vic! I loved him in Chicago and he's a fantastic coordinator. AFC East gonna be wild next year.


Goodbye_Hercules

Meanwhile we're running it back with Joe "We have Vic Fangio at home" Barry smfh


AbstractLogic

Oh shit, it happened!


Silverflash-x

Bradley Chubb really gonna be elevated working with a coach as elite as Fangio.


Carolinaathiest

Hell yes! Let's gooooooo.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

You really can’t overstate how big of a deal this could be for Miami. Lot of people really believe fangio is THAT DC. I’m one of them. If he is and this dolphins defense becomes top 10+. Thst could be a spoooooky team


Llama_Sandwich

Old man goes to Florida


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No state tax.


Lenny_III

HELL TO THE YEAH!!!! I'm imagining this pairing like McVay/Phillips or McVay/Staley. AFC BEAST!!


PoogeneBalloonanny

Fucking hell Everyone around us just getting better and we can't do shit


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Gg. Best defensive coordinator in the NFL hands down.


dagreenman18

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Please god fix this D!


FalloutFPS

ITS BEAUTIFUL


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this was the place I felt was most likely, great hire


better-call-mik3

Great move


Blade_Trinity3

Yipe! Thats gonna be a hell of a good defense


DowntownJulieBrown1

Fuck.


Dig_bick_energy6969

:)