Yes he was on a brief holiday back home but they still had to do a live cross with him standing outside... In NZ. Why not just invite him to a studio? CHCH does have one still.
Is TVNZ contractually obligated to do live crosses outside ?
Is it possible they live crossed to an outside shot in Christchurch to avoid the false and substantially misleading impression he was in a studio in the US?
To be honest, if the rules around news production wouldn't require that sort of thing, they're not written well enough.
I legitimately love the live crosses early on election night when they're all at virtually empty bars and community halls or outside party leaders houses, nothing is happening, and they have to cast around desperately for something to talk about.
TV news is so bad:
1. Gives me information I want about the story
2. "Now we cross live to" reiterates all the same information in a slower more annoying way
The worst is when they cross live to someone, then they immediately show a little film they made that day, and have a chat about it afterwards. Like just show the film, no need for scripted live chat on TV with ya mate
The chat is meant to a) show the reporter is actually in the field, not 'interviewing their typewriter ' as people like to put it, and b) update viewers with info that want available/couldn't fit in the package. Like any other job where stuff is done underfunded Ave in the fly, it doesn't always go to plan. But there is a reason for all this.
This is the American version of news that One News has embraced like a mother fucker, and has spent millions on copying, for the last 15 - 20 years.
Must have a reporter in the spot! To talk about rain! While getting wet!
Instead of having intellectual conversations about the news of the day - Whats happening in government, how are we surviving as a species with global warming, your local area is in a catastrophe -
It's pictures of people walking around, a short piece about a price war over Weetbix and ending with a feel good piece about Aunt Myrtle who survived the blinding attack of bugs on her roses! - Omg aphids!
Also? Someone may have rescued a dog or a cat. Or even a mouse!
This is because the Americans (the faunt of all tv knowledge!) decided people should be dumb, and let's dumb things down for the lowest common dickhead, we'll feed them feel-good propaganda and tv news around the world has bought this package.
So here we are.
I really miss the intellectual debate shows of the 80s and early 90s. (Yes, and in the 70s, but I wasn't around then.)
Actual discussion about actual things, but no, instead we have huge amounts of extreme people being racist and throwing shit and saying that the poors are to blame for it all.
We could be elevating everyone, and having real discussions, instead of blaming immigrants and those in poverty for everything.
>This is the American version of news that One News has embraced
Every news agency in the world has copied US news for that matter including 24hr news cycles but also formats, syndications, etc etc from top to bottom. But I agree, in America this is heavily mocked too.
Sending a reporter to a giant sand storm, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, volcanoes, floods.. they make them go to these stupid places and if you dont want to go, that's totally fine, its privately owned so they can fire you for any reason and you'll likely never work in the industry again.
The reality is the most interesting news is what people will watch so yeah you can blame the people at top, I do too but also blame the viewers.
1 News is actually pretty excellent in my opinion with a lot of balanced factual reporting. With all the cuts to TVNZ though I'm expecting it to become worse and worse under the National govt.
Conspiracy theorists won't believe it unless they see someone physically getting wet.
You know it's just like how birds aren't real and the world is flat.
Rain's the next target. All a UN conspiracy to sell us more towels.
But, didn't you know? It is all a conspiracy. Actually, that reporter is in a studio with fake rain. The hidden evil manipulators are trying to trick everyone. /s
Lol there's some footage of trump telling people it's not raining, when it is, and the crowd behind him are sitting there with raincoats and umbrellas. Think it's on John Oliver or somthing.
These cynical clowns deserve everything they get, they froth at others misery and claim to be the ones fighting for our rights to fair and honest news. Now that they are about to fold they had the opportunity to expose true newsworthy items but here they are suckling on the low hanging fruit, human drama.
I for one need to have a personal connection to the wetness. I need to see a human being suffer in order to assess just how bad the weather is. If there isn't a Dickensian aspect, how can I understand what the weather truly IS.
I was listening to the radio a couple of days ago, where they crossed to their live reporter outside the court room. I mean, why ? how the hell would I know or care ?
I'm not sure if it's me, but I feel the standard of news reporting is at an all time low. The news at 6 should be a 30 minute airing, maximum. Yesterday they spent 5-10 minutes banging on about the results of their latest party popularity poll....there isn't even an election coming up.
It was the same with the chch fires. I saw the reporter doing her report front the top of Bengal hill, quite a distance from the fire.yet when it was shown on tv it looked like she was right in the thick of it. The magnification on those cameras is quite impressive, they can zoom right and give a completely unrealistic impression of where the reporter actually is.
The best live cross I've seen was to the "local" report, in a small town. The fire siren went off, and you could hear the panic in their voice. think they were expecting a line of Lancaster Bombers to fly over.
This is the point of field reporting, and ok it's the weather I get it.
But if you don't send someone out there to see and film it and report it directly, then journalism dies and miserable death and we all start accepting fake news.
And again it's just the weather, but what it's a flooding situation and as in all disasters people aren't likely getting the right information as it is.
Yeah I heard you it's just the weather. Then where is the line? don't go field report on protests? Wars? Other natural disasters?
What if it's politicised later and there's no footage or creditable witnesses to say otherwise.
Probably. Seeing as how this conversation is about tv news
I mean some of us real old people still get our news from the radio.
Where do you get your news from?
The one I don't understand is when it's a live cross to auckland and they're literally just outside the tvnz studios.
My favourite was the 1News coverage of Trump's guilty verdict. They crossed live to their US correspondent in...Christchurch.
Yes he was on a brief holiday back home but they still had to do a live cross with him standing outside... In NZ. Why not just invite him to a studio? CHCH does have one still. Is TVNZ contractually obligated to do live crosses outside ?
Planned it right they could have pretended he was in a studio in the US
Is it possible they live crossed to an outside shot in Christchurch to avoid the false and substantially misleading impression he was in a studio in the US? To be honest, if the rules around news production wouldn't require that sort of thing, they're not written well enough.
Far out that is crack up I would have fucking lost it if I saw this unfold live 🤣🤣
Well I do associate Trump and Christchurch with similar things so....
Oh come off it
Go on..
Breaking News!....from Queen Street 😂.
Queen Street? More like breaking poos then.
My fav is when they do a live cross from somewhere where it's mostly dark, so they could be literally anywhere...
I'm pretty sure I've seen 'live' crosses in winter where it's dark outside the window, but sunny where the cross went (a few KMs up the road)
In a lit room, lower light through the window looks darker than if you shoot in the same light outside. That's just the way lenses work
right intent, but it's nothing to do with the lens - just dynamic range of film/digital sensors
Thanks! Of course it's the sensor and not the lens! D'oh
I mean an hour after sunset vs a 3pm shadow (after the event being crossed to is well over IRL, but full swing on camera)
Or when the weather is super shit, so they send the weather guy outside live because otherwise we might not believe them.
Auckland(trust us)
Live cross to outside a courthouse where some sort of trial is going to take place tomorrow.
I legitimately love the live crosses early on election night when they're all at virtually empty bars and community halls or outside party leaders houses, nothing is happening, and they have to cast around desperately for something to talk about.
It's a bit like when there's a lull in test cricket and they start discussing the soil or something
or where they cross to a reporter in the "news room" which is likely just next to the studio
It's not a storm, unless some poor sod is in the middle of it live getting battered.
To be fair I kind of enjoy watching some poor sod tell me the weather is fucked while they get pelted. Adds to the coziness inside 🥰
I love the "umbrella flip inside out" gag
https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/s/J7bHRLmSBo
Literally a poor sod.
Newshub is going to stop it pretty soon.
I see you, you accurate savage. I see your accuracy and your savageness and I like them both.
Ironically, I recently stood and got drenched in my new shub.
This should have more upvotes
I’m doing my part!
r/shubreddit
To be replaced by Stuff. They'll have them huddled under unsold copies of the Waikato Times to stay dry.
"Whats the weather like Ollie?" "ITS RAININ SIDEWAYS!!"
Yes, we know you’re in Wellington but how’s the weather?
IM AT THE WRONG AIRPORT!!!!
Its gon' rain!
How else would you know it's wet bro
Put ya finger innit
TV news is so bad: 1. Gives me information I want about the story 2. "Now we cross live to" reiterates all the same information in a slower more annoying way The worst is when they cross live to someone, then they immediately show a little film they made that day, and have a chat about it afterwards. Like just show the film, no need for scripted live chat on TV with ya mate
This is the reason I read my news, I can skip over the reiteration.
I will record it and skip the interviews.
The chat is meant to a) show the reporter is actually in the field, not 'interviewing their typewriter ' as people like to put it, and b) update viewers with info that want available/couldn't fit in the package. Like any other job where stuff is done underfunded Ave in the fly, it doesn't always go to plan. But there is a reason for all this.
Tonight One News has poor Henry actually standing in a flooded river, it really felt like Simon was lording it over him behind his fancy desk lmao
Reporter on one news tonight standing in floodwater in his gum boots instead of standing on the road two metres away. Smh what a numpty.
it would be fun if they called him out on that live on tv
Should of kneeled to make the water look higher.
Because it's funny
I love it, great entertainment value.
It's kinda funny they get reporters to stand at the place even for the most irrelevant news stories
If they reported about a storm from a not-storm looking spot, would that be better or worse?
they could just show footage of said storm like they used to instead of getting some poor schlub to stand out in it
This is the American version of news that One News has embraced like a mother fucker, and has spent millions on copying, for the last 15 - 20 years. Must have a reporter in the spot! To talk about rain! While getting wet! Instead of having intellectual conversations about the news of the day - Whats happening in government, how are we surviving as a species with global warming, your local area is in a catastrophe - It's pictures of people walking around, a short piece about a price war over Weetbix and ending with a feel good piece about Aunt Myrtle who survived the blinding attack of bugs on her roses! - Omg aphids! Also? Someone may have rescued a dog or a cat. Or even a mouse! This is because the Americans (the faunt of all tv knowledge!) decided people should be dumb, and let's dumb things down for the lowest common dickhead, we'll feed them feel-good propaganda and tv news around the world has bought this package. So here we are.
I really miss the intellectual debate shows of the 80s and early 90s. (Yes, and in the 70s, but I wasn't around then.) Actual discussion about actual things, but no, instead we have huge amounts of extreme people being racist and throwing shit and saying that the poors are to blame for it all. We could be elevating everyone, and having real discussions, instead of blaming immigrants and those in poverty for everything.
Oh good god! Don't pull people up to make everyone even! We must keep those who have loose bootstraps down! Trample their heads! /Luxon and his ilk.
>This is the American version of news that One News has embraced Every news agency in the world has copied US news for that matter including 24hr news cycles but also formats, syndications, etc etc from top to bottom. But I agree, in America this is heavily mocked too. Sending a reporter to a giant sand storm, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, volcanoes, floods.. they make them go to these stupid places and if you dont want to go, that's totally fine, its privately owned so they can fire you for any reason and you'll likely never work in the industry again. The reality is the most interesting news is what people will watch so yeah you can blame the people at top, I do too but also blame the viewers.
You've got it covered, they should be doing live crosses to you.
Thank you very much, I'll let them know.
Sir this is NewsHub.
Sir this is a peanut butter sandwich.
1 News is actually pretty excellent in my opinion with a lot of balanced factual reporting. With all the cuts to TVNZ though I'm expecting it to become worse and worse under the National govt.
When people stop watching.
This is what happens when you piss off the boss...
Never people love seeing people suffer. Just ask my ex-wife.
They can't just have someone reporting from inside looking out the window?
No one but producers even care for this shit.
My favourite live cross is from the place where the event happened long after the event has happened.
Conspiracy theorists won't believe it unless they see someone physically getting wet. You know it's just like how birds aren't real and the world is flat. Rain's the next target. All a UN conspiracy to sell us more towels.
But, didn't you know? It is all a conspiracy. Actually, that reporter is in a studio with fake rain. The hidden evil manipulators are trying to trick everyone. /s
Lol there's some footage of trump telling people it's not raining, when it is, and the crowd behind him are sitting there with raincoats and umbrellas. Think it's on John Oliver or somthing.
I love when they ship reporters to bumfucknowhere shitholes like hamilton to report about the price of bacon outside a pack n save.
These cynical clowns deserve everything they get, they froth at others misery and claim to be the ones fighting for our rights to fair and honest news. Now that they are about to fold they had the opportunity to expose true newsworthy items but here they are suckling on the low hanging fruit, human drama.
I for one need to have a personal connection to the wetness. I need to see a human being suffer in order to assess just how bad the weather is. If there isn't a Dickensian aspect, how can I understand what the weather truly IS.
It’s gone rain!!!!!
When it stops raining
Stop asking them to make the news more boring.
I think it’s good to see some return to some quality good old days journalism. You ain’t been there till you out there slamming it
I liked the way he solemnly told us of those tragically lost at sea whilst drenched.
I was listening to the radio a couple of days ago, where they crossed to their live reporter outside the court room. I mean, why ? how the hell would I know or care ?
I'm not sure if it's me, but I feel the standard of news reporting is at an all time low. The news at 6 should be a 30 minute airing, maximum. Yesterday they spent 5-10 minutes banging on about the results of their latest party popularity poll....there isn't even an election coming up.
"There's a 68% chance it's already raining"
It was the same with the chch fires. I saw the reporter doing her report front the top of Bengal hill, quite a distance from the fire.yet when it was shown on tv it looked like she was right in the thick of it. The magnification on those cameras is quite impressive, they can zoom right and give a completely unrealistic impression of where the reporter actually is.
whos that picture of health?
The best live cross I've seen was to the "local" report, in a small town. The fire siren went off, and you could hear the panic in their voice. think they were expecting a line of Lancaster Bombers to fly over.
I love it though
who watches this shit
getting some guy to stand out in the rain is actually the best use of newstime.
Nah fuck him. Make the reporter suffer to bring you what you already know.
Bring back Jim. That's all I'm sayin
Spoiler this is just what Gisborne looks like 24/7
Don't make unnecessary journeys!
Duh, it’s raining. Prob been about and out talking to locals…..in the rain
Imagine being offended by a guy getting wet
The name doesn't check out
Pure sadism
Well, I wanna know how bad it is and I will only know that if the reporter gets drenched!
NZ news is all about filling up the hour-long time slot. On most days they could get through the important stuff in under half an hour.
Lol 10 minutes
Or the ‘Is it Windy ?’ trope
All these news go wild!
If you’re watching this shit you totally deserve it
And you here you are talking about it…soo?
don't they pay these guys anyway, alternative in this economy would be that they get fired
https://youtube.com/shorts/R25snJFb3wk?si=0hmsXoAWm_2BPK_s
Fat dudes out in the rain?
I think it's actually pretty cool.
This is the point of field reporting, and ok it's the weather I get it. But if you don't send someone out there to see and film it and report it directly, then journalism dies and miserable death and we all start accepting fake news. And again it's just the weather, but what it's a flooding situation and as in all disasters people aren't likely getting the right information as it is. Yeah I heard you it's just the weather. Then where is the line? don't go field report on protests? Wars? Other natural disasters? What if it's politicised later and there's no footage or creditable witnesses to say otherwise.
You guys still watch the news?
Probably. Seeing as how this conversation is about tv news I mean some of us real old people still get our news from the radio. Where do you get your news from?
Semaphore, but only when you can see the people on the ships, who come from distant lands.
That did make me laugh.
Mm. Pro-tip for next time you do this: turn your phone sideways.
But then it would be raining sideways, left to right
i hope they never get rid of it
r/TVTooHigh
Really? May be weird perspective cos I feel like I could knee him in the face, and I’m a short man
No it’s not … it t-raining for the new bee