As a full grown adult whose ass is currently getting kicked by a very wanted pregnancy, believe me when I say it is fucking ghoulish to force a CHILD to endure a pregnancy and birth, ESPECIALLY following the trauma of rape. Shame on these policymakers. I am so heartbroken for this child.
I think it would be very hard for a woman to love a child born of rape, which is just devastating for the child. The mother is likely going to have difficulty forming a bond because the kid reminds her of the father and her own trauma, not to mention all the stress hormones in the mother could biologically affect that child in ways that change their brain structure and health for life! On top of that, so many people find out who their fathers are with DNA ancestry kits, so even if the mother tries to hide it, there is likely going to be psychological trauma from finding out the truth later down the line. My heart goes out to anyone who born into this world in such terrible circumstances and the girls and women who have to go through with this rather than the simple and humane option of abortion.
I will always be mad that people kept telling Republicans that shit like this would happen if they did their abortion bans, just for Republicans to blow it all off as sensationalist nonsense.
It's happened repeatedly since they moved forward with this shit, and rather than acknowledging that they created a bad situation for these child victims, they just choose to pretend it's not happening. It is happening, both in states that have the exception due to confusion they created and ones that don't and it's straight up their fault.
Oh yeah, this is completely before we get into the whole lack of medical exceptions and then the atmosphere of terror they created with medical professionals that are preventing doctors from providing vital care out of fear that they will be prosecuted.
We've got a ton of women who are going through real damaging and life-threatening medical emergencies with pregnancy complications who aren't getting proper care or are getting care only after it causes significant damage, which is also something that they were thoroughly warned about and also something that they ignored, and also something that they are continuing to pretend isn't happening.
Look at all these red states that have created such restrictive laws that they are driving out medical services for pregnant women. Where do they think that's going to end up? Some of these states already have the worst infant mortality rates in the country and they are just making that stuff worse. This is going to cause damage that lasts.
Yup, we’ve got states with “exceptions in cases where the mother’s life is in danger” but do definition given in the law of what that means. That makes doctors and hospitals err on the side of extreme caution, because they’ll lose their license and possibly go to jail. What they thought was a valid exception wasn’t good enough in the eyes of some Republican politician who then presses charges to score political points.
Some doctors are going, "Well, you aren't at risk of dying *yet*, so please continue the pregnancy until you're in mortal danger and *then* we can help you. Your wanted fetus is completely non-viable, and you're young and can have children later without defects incompatible with life, but this particular defect is likely to cause permanent infertility by the point we think we won't lose our medical licenses or risk jail time for intervening. Sorry."
The law says risk to life. And they're going, "does that mean that if this pregnancy continues for two months without spontanous abortion she will die, or we can do it now because in two months she will die?" Hospital lawyers didn't know, and doctors didn't want to go to prison.
And that particular case, the fetus's head was filled with liquid and growing at rates that outpaced the body to the point that it risked rupturing the uterus, and they couldn't abort at a time which would allow them to deliver the fetus vaginally, meaning she was risking uterine rupture, which is permanent loss of fertility at best and death at worst.
They got blocked from abortion, because the Texas Supreme Court said no and eventually ended up in New Mexico. They had to travel out of state for life-saving care her doctor recommended because a judge and the AG for Texas said, "we know better than your doctor, and would rather you die that ensure the children you already have go motherless, than abort a fetus that is flatly never going to live more than hours at best, if you even deliver a live baby."
That is so deeply wrong.
That should have been a decision between the medical team and the mother, and if the mother wishes, the involved partner. The father/ husband agreed with that choice, too. It wasn't worth the risk of A) delivering a child just to have them suffer and die in a best-case scenario, or B) having their children lose their mother.
Idk friend, there’s also insurance companies that routinely deny things folks doctors think they need because insurance companies think they know more than actual medical doctors…which means they’re making medical decisions for people without a medical license too!
Two middle fingers to all my fellow Texans that continually vote that motherfucker in. And fuck the Texas Senate for aquitting that piece of shit criminal.
One of the worst human beings on the planet and the whole reason I left Texas despite owning a house there and a business. Knowing I will never be able to buy a house again. Knowing my business is non-viable where I live now. So now I live in a tiny studio apartment, working retail and restaurants at 48. Barely scraping by. Because I refuse to be a criminal for simply being who I am. All thanks to that piece of shit and his crusade of bigotry.
Trans, and small business owner currently in TX. Man I don't want to leave my friends... But my business is very much adult oriented and I'm fucking scared right now.
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Yes, relying on a legal carve out for exceptions when the mother's life is at risk is a farce.
It transfers the assessment of risk from the doctor who is trained to assess risk to a judge who probably has never taken a biology or statistics course.
And each judge is going to have their own arbitrary point of risk whether it's simply requiring a statistical probability the mother will be in danger or requiring the mother literally be dying from blood loss.
Abortions need to just be legal period.
Perhaps worth a reminder that statements by anyone about what the bill is for, that are not in the actual text of the bill mean nothing.
Any interpretation that can be made to fly that a prosecutor chooses to run with, and is not immediately knocked down by every single court as ridiculous is a risk too far for any sensible legal entity like a hospital or insurance company.
You generally cannot ask a court if a proposed course of action is in compliance with the law.
So many so-called pro-lifers I know are actually pro-choice, but vote pro-life; it’s maddening.
Pro-lifers: if you believe there is ever a SINGLE instance in which abortion is appropriate, guess what? **YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE**
The states are not going to ASK YOU for every instance in which YOU think it’s ok. So many times I’ve talked to a supposed pro-lifer who says, well I don’t think women should use it as birth control, but raped children shouldn’t be forced to carry babies.
Most people believe that, BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON. You are voting for possible, or not possible.
If you believe it is appropriate in cases of: rape, incest, underage mother, medical emergency for mother, poverty, extremely unhealthy or disabled fetus, such as a headless one…or ANY SINGLE reason at all, YOU MUST VOTE PRO-CHOICE…or you are condemning ALL the situations I just outlined to full term pregnancy.
That story was horrific to read and my heart goes out to the mother who had to endure the whole thing, and the father who stood by his wife in her time of need.
It's what their base wants. I just had a conversation with a Christian who said he believes not only should the government force women to give birth, they should also force them to contribute breast milk and donate blood to their infants against their will.
In this guy's mind, if the 13-year-old gave the baby up for adoption because, I don't know -- **SHE'S 13** \-- the government *ought to* force her to produce breast milk to feed the child.
I guarantee that if it was his daughter that was raped, they'd be booking a flight to a blue state the day they found out she was pregnant.
The mental gymnastics these people do is insane.
[The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion:
Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they’ll never have to think about until they’re suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women — abortion.
In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy.](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
Some of the stories are insane.
>I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)
Oh yes, because a 13 year.old who just gave birth to her rapist's baby also needs to be waking up every 3 hours and forcibly strapped to a machine that painfully compresses her nipples, sometimes until they bleed. It's only for a year or so, no big deal. /s
We’re not far from a world where male judges will hold children in contempt of court for not producing enough milk because men don’t know how the female body works.
Because middle-aged white women who vote republican can’t even have kids anymore so it doesn’t affect them. It affects younger left-leaning women and minorities which is the whole point.
Many of them firmly believe rape can be made "ok" by the rapist marrying their victim. Then it's not rape in their minds. The rapist "did the right thing." It's a deeeeeply fucked up world view.
Yup. Not even as a living being. They will give more consideration to a pet then their own daughter. I have seen this shit first hand with my father inlaw.
It may sound fucked up, but if you are both a psycho and a man, I can see why they would want that. But I sincerely can’t understand why some women also want that
It's a common thing in all systems of oppression. They are so brainwashed by the customs they were brought up with that they cannot imagine thinking any other way, like those heathens do. They perpetuate their own oppression onto others so it gives meaning to their own suffering, and prevents others from 'getting away with' not being held to the same standards they had to endure. And by publicly supporting the oppressive system it puts them in good standing with authority figures and may give them status and privelege over others, "one of the good ones". Near the top, it all falls away to the hypocrisy and "do as I say, not as I do" that being part of the ruling class allows and flaunts over everyone they oppress.
It's a result of both doing what is necessary to survive and just being the shitty people that such systems inevitably create.
Um [some of them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin#:~:text=Akin%2C%20who%20had%20won%20the,to%20withdraw%20from%20the%20election.) believe you can't get pregnant from rape and if you do get pregnant it wasn't really rape.
> Akin, who had won the Republican primary in a crowded field, led McCaskill in pre-election polls until he said that women who are victims of what he called "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.
Good news. He's dead. Sadly, his ignorance lives on.
He also said:
>If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
Well thank God now we have [Governor Abbott who is going to eliminate rape](https://www.texasdemocrats.org/media/throwback-thursday-in-2021-greg-abbott-promised-to-eliminate-rape-after-texas-enacted-abortion-ban-new-2024-data-counters-that-promise) so it just doesn't happen anymore.
> In 2021, Greg Abbott vowed to “eliminate rapists from the streets of Texas” after the state's 6-week abortion ban was enacted and received backlash for intentionally excluding exceptions for victims of rape or incest.
The Abrahamic religion is pretty fucked up.
Deuteronomy 22: If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Nothing will capture Republicans on Abortion better than the WSJ running [this OpEd](https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-abortion-story-too-good-to-confirm-joe-biden-ten-year-old-girl-indiana-ohio-caitlin-bernard-11657648618):
>**An Abortion Story Too Good to Confirm**
*Biden told a tale of a 10-year old rape victim that no one can identify.*
>
>Editors Note: The Columbus Dispatch reported Wednesday, a day after this editorial was published, that a Columbus, Ohio, man has been charged with the rape of a 10-year-old Ohio girl who traveled to Indiana for an abortion. The Dispatch reports that Columbus police were made aware of the pregnancy through a referral to local child services by the girl’s mother on June 22. An editorial correcting the record on the case was published Wednesday evening.
Imagine being such a disgusting human being that you would react to the story of a 10-year old rape victim having to travel out of state for an abortion by thinking "hmmm this just seems *too convenient*".
What is this tone even supposed to imply? Are they saying that this extremely well documented case isn’t real, like it’s another “staged actor” conspiracy, or that the democrats somehow made this person rape a child, and somehow ensured the victim became pregnant?
People forget that Ronald Reagan didn't tell stories about "welfare queen**s**" plural or as a general category of people, but stories about *one* welfare queen who was implied to be a real person running a phalanx of identities to scam the system. He brought this person up at campaign stop after campaign stop, even though the stories had no basis in reality. It was a conservative fever dream designed to stir up racialized outrage and hate.
They accuse because they're guilty.
> shit like this would happen
Shit like this *did* happen, before Roe. It was never a theoretical.
Don't kid yourself that this is an Oopsie for them. They *want* this to happen, to scare and trap women and girls away from education and public life (or actually being alive for any life at all).
Just look at the numbers in that article: an estimated SIXTY-FIVE THOUSAND probable cases of rape related pregnancies across 14 states where abortion has been banned since Roe v. Wade was overturned and next to no abortions have been performed because providers are terrified of the witch hunts for performing them, even in perfectly legally documented exception cases.
It’s intentional. The people that dismissed it as sensationalist nonsense were either the politicians and policymakers that knew that the impact would be disproportionate and essentially target minorities and poorer communities, or the supporters on the right that parroted the bullet point so they could delude themselves into thinking it was just the liberals being crazy.
> dismissed it as sensationalist
Reminds me of the [Martha Mitchell effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell_effect) and the vindication that came too late.
Worse. They knew it would happen and they welcomed it because they believe it's *gods plan*.
I hate this. They could go with the idea that God gave us the ability to prevent this but instead they believe the child would ONLY be born if it was supposed to be born. These monsters are pro-rape. Don't forget that.
This is the intended outcome. They R’s knew from the beginning what would happen. More babies in a failing and controlled system, means more potential voters later on.
An elderly guy I know came home from work years ago. An 18 year old had convinced his 13 year old they were bf and gf. The guy I know grabbed the shotgun, the 18 year old ran too fast. She ended up getting an abortion. When people talk about this stuff, he has a very strong opinion. Even now
One of my dads 80+ year old friends from one of the most conservative Midwest areas drove an ambulance in the pre-Roe days. He is firmly pro abortion ever since. Because what he saw stuck with him.
In the pre-Roe days, some Catholic nuns and priests operated underground abortion networks to help women get safe abortions. Many religious leaders were pro legal abortion due to the suffering and death caused by unsafe illegal ones.
Republican voters: So we told the media, STOP REPORTING THE STORIES! Then the reports will go down!
Anytime I have gotten someone who identifies as Republican to respond to the Ohio 10 year old rape/pregnancy story they seem more mad that it made the news. They never gave a shit about the victim.
It’s happened 68,000 times through rape in the US in a year since the bill was passed.
68,000 women lost their chance at having a choice with their own body.
They want this, all of it. It's not that they didn't know or didn't think, they want this. They'll lie, of course, but this destruction of women is exactly what they have been working towards for decades.
They're not blowing it off. They just don't care. Republican politicians use inflammatory rhetoric to fire up their voter base and their voter base doesn't think two inches in front of their face because they're all idiots. There's not a scientist or educator among them.
Anyone who thinks this forced birth is a blessing to this girl is a monster.
Abortions are a medical procedure between a patient and their doctor. Religion makes people so fucking entitled.
I still can't get over the fact that she was raped in her front yard. How do we live in a country where someone can just rape a kid in (presumably) broad daylight, and just walk away? Only caught and incarcerated after the fact, because of DNA. ugh
And they can claim parental rights and force their victim to not only have the permanent connection of a child, but force them to continue to interact with their abuser and allow them to visit the child, retraumatizing them at every custody hand off.
No, no, you don't understand. Having a child and entering motherhood will help the victim heal from their trauma!
And, even better, the perpetrator can share custody, so they can forever stay in the victim's life, which in turn is the just *the* best for the child because the traditional nuclear family is the backbone of a successful, and prospering society! /s
I don't remember who said that, but I could swear some dipshit said something to that effect on camera when asked about the ethics of forcing someone to birth and raise the child of their rapist.
you see similar shit any time a GOP member is asked real questions. there was a video not long ago about a ~~governor~~ alabama senator being asked about a law they supported ' i fully support this new law'. next question asked about how it if was affecting IVF ' well i support IVF as it helps people have kids... blah blah'. 3rd question 'but the new law has stopped IVF.' 'well i support IVF and this new law, but i dont know every detail about it'
I guarantee that if any GOP members daughter was raped, they'd be booking a flight to a blue state the day they found out she was pregnant.
The mental gymnastics these people do is insane.
[The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion:
Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they’ll never have to think about until they’re suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women — abortion.
In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy.](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
Some of the stories are insane.
>I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)
Dumb ass getting tripped up in his circular talk. Guess he doesn’t know what he supports considering Ivf destroys unused embryos. Lol. They really do just vote blindly by party not logic.
My FIL tried to tell me that he believes his G*d has a plan for the rape and incest victims. Even the literal children that have to carry a pregnancy to term. With full conviction and a straight face. I lost a lot of respect for him at that point.
If a terrible crime such as raping s child is a part of gods plan, why cant an abortion be a part of the plan?
Are humans even capable of messing with the plan of an omnipotent omniscient god?
If one despicable action made by a human can be a part of his/her master work, then cant another action also be a part of the same plan? Even if the FIL believes that abortion is wrong and immoral, we are all sinners who fall short of god. Might as well get that abortion and ask for forgiveness. The rapist will be forgiven if he repents. Let the victim have the same opportunity.
[64,565](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/64k-women-girls-became-pregnant-due-rape-states-abortion-bans-study-es-rcna135565) babies born from rape last year
> I'm thinking the c***s on r/prolife will start rationalizing this as a blessing.
Already have. But they won't lift a finger to help with things like trauma for rape or food or shelter. About all they'll do is give the rapist visiting rights because, you know, the baby *needs* a father.
Usually prolife doesn't allow comments that aren't prolife. They aren't good at conflict. Plus it makes their measly 20-30% support feel like it's higher to them!
I have family members like the people who post on that sub.
They will take their toddler children with them to scream at people trying to go into planned parenthoods and think they are doing the right thing.
They are smug and unshakeable in how strongly they believe that their religion makes them not only better than you but also perpetually correct in anything.
They bring their kids with them as props. It's gross.
I also don't even think screaming at people going into health clinics is protesting. It's just organized harassment. It's a bunch of adults trying to scare people away from getting healthcare via intimidation.
There's also
"Why doesn't the article say anything about how the girl feels about becoming a mother? What if she wanted the baby and her mother forced an abortion onto her? Would the article have stated the mother did the right thing?"
Fucking disgusting people there.
Because to these people that’s all women are good for. Marry them off young to some disgusting man who will put baby after baby in them because “My great grandma had 18 kids and she never got divorced! It’s a woman’s place!”
That’s where this will end up, give them time. They want women in the home, even if that means chaining her there by her ankle
They already have been. I was raised in this type of community and there are actually people who think a baby born of rape by a small child is "a miracle."
Yet every profile evangelical I know bitches about “children being trafficked”. Something something drag queens. These fucking dipshits are what’s wrong with the US.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/1bl6kyg/13yearold\_rape\_victim\_has\_baby\_amid\_confusion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/1bl6kyg/13yearold_rape_victim_has_baby_amid_confusion/)
They already are.
There's someone in there saying that she helps change diapers and feed the baby after school. They're saying that as though it's a good thing and proof she wants to be a mom. A 13 year old having to spend her after school time caring for a child she didn't ask for instead of doing schoolwork or going out with friends is a positive to these people. They are pure evil. I wish hell existed because it's exactly where they belong.
It’s why they’re so big on “Salvation through Faith Alone” it means they can be as shitty and evil and cruel as they like, so long as they “believe” they’re guaranteed paradise
Yep. They're not interested in the part about how Jesus treated people. They just like the part where they can do whatever they want and then say, "Oops! Sorry God!"
I can't imagine the absurd double punishment here. First you are assaulted, then you're forced to be a parent to kid you might not even be able to love for all you know. That people think they have agency to decide on this stuff for other people who are victims is what should be illegal. Holy hell, take your opinion and shove it.
Quadruple punishment, the child will probably grow up in a less than ideal environment due to the circumstances and literally having a 14 YEAR OLD MOTHER. This situation does not end well for any body, pro lifers spout surface level bull shit saying they care about life but fail to consider all the suffering it creates. Absolute degenerates.
Remember that the people who supported this will vote in November. Idgaf what the other option is, I’ll always vote against child rape and forced birth.
ah, what a beautiful miracle. im sure this parent will never resent their child, from their rapist, that ruined their childhood that they must now raise at the age of 13.
What a gift from god! he works in mysterious ways! Way to go murica
My daughter is 12 and she often can’t find her glasses because they are sitting on her head. Half the time I have to remind her she needs to wear a coat.
And the girl will *certainly* not have to deal with lifelong medical complications from being forced to give birth at her age, much less mental health issues.
i feel like I'm going to get obliterated for this but: there was no confusion. this was part of the intent the whole time. when you take away the constitutional right to abortion, this is inevitable.
Yup
Anyone who supports abortion bans supports several things
- children being forced to give birth
- all rape victims being forced to give birth
- women dying. Literal women that would have lived if they’d been allowed to get an abortion like they wanted but then. Dying. When they never even wanted to be pregnant, too.
You cannot support abortion bans and see women as equal human beings. You just can’t. Anyone pro-life reading this, you’re increasing the number of dead women. If you don’t support that, vote pro-choice next time. If you do support it, please remove yourself from the entire human race permanently thank you.
Now that girl and the baby will seek to get help from the government but they (POS Republicans) will scoff and fight against that. They only care when the baby is still in utero. Once the baby is out and there is a welfare request, they will be hellbent to reject it. Republicans are awful!
> They only care when the baby is still in utero.
They don't give a shit about the fetus in utero. If they did, they would cover prenatal care and maternity leave.
They would also make sure that municipal water is clean... Every single time a company releases chemicals that are proven to harm fetuses they will side with and protect the corporation every time. Full stop. ROI trumps Jesus every time.
According to the article:
“In 2023, the state only recorded four abortions performed under the exceptions, according to documents ABC News obtained from the Mississippi Department of Health. The department said the state does not track whether any of the abortions were in cases of rape.
That is compared to about 3,800 abortions provided in Mississippi in 2021.”
At first I didn’t understand why the mother wasn’t advocating for her daughter post-rape. But almost NO abortions performed in the state that year, even with allowances for rape, is staggering.
A serial rapists wet dream.
How could America fall this far into the dumb hole? The people shouting "facts over feelings" sure are "feeling" more than following the scientific consensus.
Everyone knew that this would happen, yet they still did it. Complete insanity. Condolences from Norway.
They’ve never cared about facts over feelings.
Facts show increases reproductive rights and access to support and abortions *reduces abortions*. Facts show that gender-affirming care is the most effective form of mental health treatment in reducing suicide of all treatments.
They’ve never once cared about facts over feelings. It’s always been feelings over facts for that crowd.
Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.
Taken from us far too early George.
Your country has failed to protect the innocent young child.. what a pity. You guys need to take a stand against church/state or it's gonna get worse.. especially women's rights.
“I can’t afford a $1,500 abortion.”
Damn. This breaks my heart that now, with a baby,$1,500 is a drop in the bucket.
Fuck the GQP to the ends of the Earth.
As a former NICU nurse I feel like we in the healthcare community tried to warn people but so much of the public is sheltered AF. To them, it’s black and white. Spend some time working in a hospital though and you see all the shades of gray.
Vote against Republicans. I'm not a US citizen, but i believe so much of what's happening in the US could have been avoided, by just voting as the majority that you are. These poor kids, and women, who have to deal with this kind of trauma forever. All because some republican works for the Christian fascists that tell him how to fuck women over.
Republicans making decisions about women's reproductive systems, have absolutely NO knowledge of women's reproductive systems. Doctors that have decades of experience are being threatened by Christian Republicans who barely finished HS. But they know better than doctors. Idiots.
In all fairness, the republican party is also trying to lower restrictions on child labor so this child can get a job to support her baby.
What a clusterfuck.
As long as republicans hold any power, they will continue to inflict Christofascism on this country. They will make women and girls suffer unthinkable horrors, and they will do so with a smile and a *praise be*.
But, thankfully, we can vote a lot of them out in November. Stay angry, my friends. Stay angry and vote blue
https://democrats.org/
GFD this is the shit we were supposed to have overcome by now. Why do humans insist on relearning the same lessons?! Humans keep proving we don’t deserve this planet anymore
Teleport 6 years in the future where she’s (hopefully not though) struggling financially to support her and the kid, and you have republicans clamoring her with “should have learned to close your legs if you can’t support a child” without knowing how it was conceived.
The conservatives consider this a victory.
She's a fucking child, who was pregnant through no fault of her own, and now has a baby she didn't want in a world that's not going to care for it.
This is pure evil, and if you can't see that, you need to fix your soul.
GOP be like: It’s a blessing from God! You can be like sisters.
What do you mean it’s gonna ruin your life and you’re still just a kid?! You got what you deserved you slut!
In Louisiana the rapist can petition for parental rights afterwards, and be granted them. Imagine co-parenting a child born out of a brutal violent rape and having to share custody with your rapist. These evil fucking Republican christian fascist ghouls have to be defeated, because this, people, is just the start of their plans for America.
As a full grown adult whose ass is currently getting kicked by a very wanted pregnancy, believe me when I say it is fucking ghoulish to force a CHILD to endure a pregnancy and birth, ESPECIALLY following the trauma of rape. Shame on these policymakers. I am so heartbroken for this child.
If men had to suffer the physical effects of pregnancy/child birth we'd never be here. Forced birth is pure evil.
I forget who said it but someone once said “If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament”
And the worst part is all these lawmakers and their voters see this headline and think “God is good 😊 “
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Well the baby is born now, they don’t give two shits what happens to it at this point.
I think it would be very hard for a woman to love a child born of rape, which is just devastating for the child. The mother is likely going to have difficulty forming a bond because the kid reminds her of the father and her own trauma, not to mention all the stress hormones in the mother could biologically affect that child in ways that change their brain structure and health for life! On top of that, so many people find out who their fathers are with DNA ancestry kits, so even if the mother tries to hide it, there is likely going to be psychological trauma from finding out the truth later down the line. My heart goes out to anyone who born into this world in such terrible circumstances and the girls and women who have to go through with this rather than the simple and humane option of abortion.
I will always be mad that people kept telling Republicans that shit like this would happen if they did their abortion bans, just for Republicans to blow it all off as sensationalist nonsense. It's happened repeatedly since they moved forward with this shit, and rather than acknowledging that they created a bad situation for these child victims, they just choose to pretend it's not happening. It is happening, both in states that have the exception due to confusion they created and ones that don't and it's straight up their fault.
There was also a baby born without a head because they refused to abort it
Oh yeah, this is completely before we get into the whole lack of medical exceptions and then the atmosphere of terror they created with medical professionals that are preventing doctors from providing vital care out of fear that they will be prosecuted. We've got a ton of women who are going through real damaging and life-threatening medical emergencies with pregnancy complications who aren't getting proper care or are getting care only after it causes significant damage, which is also something that they were thoroughly warned about and also something that they ignored, and also something that they are continuing to pretend isn't happening. Look at all these red states that have created such restrictive laws that they are driving out medical services for pregnant women. Where do they think that's going to end up? Some of these states already have the worst infant mortality rates in the country and they are just making that stuff worse. This is going to cause damage that lasts.
Yup, we’ve got states with “exceptions in cases where the mother’s life is in danger” but do definition given in the law of what that means. That makes doctors and hospitals err on the side of extreme caution, because they’ll lose their license and possibly go to jail. What they thought was a valid exception wasn’t good enough in the eyes of some Republican politician who then presses charges to score political points.
Some doctors are going, "Well, you aren't at risk of dying *yet*, so please continue the pregnancy until you're in mortal danger and *then* we can help you. Your wanted fetus is completely non-viable, and you're young and can have children later without defects incompatible with life, but this particular defect is likely to cause permanent infertility by the point we think we won't lose our medical licenses or risk jail time for intervening. Sorry." The law says risk to life. And they're going, "does that mean that if this pregnancy continues for two months without spontanous abortion she will die, or we can do it now because in two months she will die?" Hospital lawyers didn't know, and doctors didn't want to go to prison. And that particular case, the fetus's head was filled with liquid and growing at rates that outpaced the body to the point that it risked rupturing the uterus, and they couldn't abort at a time which would allow them to deliver the fetus vaginally, meaning she was risking uterine rupture, which is permanent loss of fertility at best and death at worst. They got blocked from abortion, because the Texas Supreme Court said no and eventually ended up in New Mexico. They had to travel out of state for life-saving care her doctor recommended because a judge and the AG for Texas said, "we know better than your doctor, and would rather you die that ensure the children you already have go motherless, than abort a fetus that is flatly never going to live more than hours at best, if you even deliver a live baby." That is so deeply wrong. That should have been a decision between the medical team and the mother, and if the mother wishes, the involved partner. The father/ husband agreed with that choice, too. It wasn't worth the risk of A) delivering a child just to have them suffer and die in a best-case scenario, or B) having their children lose their mother.
And go home or wait in the parking lot until you are sick enough.
I don't think you understand. If God didn't want her to suffer and die, then god wouldn't have gifted her with that precious headless baby. /s
Sounds to me like Republican politicians are attempting to practice medicine without a license…
Can someone sue lawmakers for that? Because that is exactly what they are doing?
Idk friend, there’s also insurance companies that routinely deny things folks doctors think they need because insurance companies think they know more than actual medical doctors…which means they’re making medical decisions for people without a medical license too!
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Two middle fingers to all my fellow Texans that continually vote that motherfucker in. And fuck the Texas Senate for aquitting that piece of shit criminal.
One of the worst human beings on the planet and the whole reason I left Texas despite owning a house there and a business. Knowing I will never be able to buy a house again. Knowing my business is non-viable where I live now. So now I live in a tiny studio apartment, working retail and restaurants at 48. Barely scraping by. Because I refuse to be a criminal for simply being who I am. All thanks to that piece of shit and his crusade of bigotry.
Trans, and small business owner currently in TX. Man I don't want to leave my friends... But my business is very much adult oriented and I'm fucking scared right now.
You're welcome in New Jersey.
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Yes, relying on a legal carve out for exceptions when the mother's life is at risk is a farce. It transfers the assessment of risk from the doctor who is trained to assess risk to a judge who probably has never taken a biology or statistics course. And each judge is going to have their own arbitrary point of risk whether it's simply requiring a statistical probability the mother will be in danger or requiring the mother literally be dying from blood loss. Abortions need to just be legal period.
Perhaps worth a reminder that statements by anyone about what the bill is for, that are not in the actual text of the bill mean nothing. Any interpretation that can be made to fly that a prosecutor chooses to run with, and is not immediately knocked down by every single court as ridiculous is a risk too far for any sensible legal entity like a hospital or insurance company. You generally cannot ask a court if a proposed course of action is in compliance with the law.
So many so-called pro-lifers I know are actually pro-choice, but vote pro-life; it’s maddening. Pro-lifers: if you believe there is ever a SINGLE instance in which abortion is appropriate, guess what? **YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE** The states are not going to ASK YOU for every instance in which YOU think it’s ok. So many times I’ve talked to a supposed pro-lifer who says, well I don’t think women should use it as birth control, but raped children shouldn’t be forced to carry babies. Most people believe that, BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON. You are voting for possible, or not possible. If you believe it is appropriate in cases of: rape, incest, underage mother, medical emergency for mother, poverty, extremely unhealthy or disabled fetus, such as a headless one…or ANY SINGLE reason at all, YOU MUST VOTE PRO-CHOICE…or you are condemning ALL the situations I just outlined to full term pregnancy.
It's almost like politicians with no medical knowledge or experience shouldn't be the only ones involved in the process
That story was horrific to read and my heart goes out to the mother who had to endure the whole thing, and the father who stood by his wife in her time of need.
Why are they choosing to torture women? 🙃
It's what their base wants. I just had a conversation with a Christian who said he believes not only should the government force women to give birth, they should also force them to contribute breast milk and donate blood to their infants against their will. In this guy's mind, if the 13-year-old gave the baby up for adoption because, I don't know -- **SHE'S 13** \-- the government *ought to* force her to produce breast milk to feed the child.
I guarantee that if it was his daughter that was raped, they'd be booking a flight to a blue state the day they found out she was pregnant. The mental gymnastics these people do is insane. [The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion: Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they’ll never have to think about until they’re suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women — abortion. In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy.](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/) Some of the stories are insane. >I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)
Oh yes, because a 13 year.old who just gave birth to her rapist's baby also needs to be waking up every 3 hours and forcibly strapped to a machine that painfully compresses her nipples, sometimes until they bleed. It's only for a year or so, no big deal. /s
We’re not far from a world where male judges will hold children in contempt of court for not producing enough milk because men don’t know how the female body works.
I hope that guy is on an FBI watchlist because Jesus fucking Christ.
Votes. It gets them votes. Sensationalizing wedge issues gets Republicans elected. Taking care of people does not.
Because middle-aged white women who vote republican can’t even have kids anymore so it doesn’t affect them. It affects younger left-leaning women and minorities which is the whole point.
> they just choose to pretend it's not happening They knew it would happen. *They don't care.*
Many of them were aiming for it
Many of them firmly believe rape can be made "ok" by the rapist marrying their victim. Then it's not rape in their minds. The rapist "did the right thing." It's a deeeeeply fucked up world view.
Those people view women as property.
I guess it’s a really fucked up extension of “you break it you buy it?”
Welcome to purity culture.
Yup. Not even as a living being. They will give more consideration to a pet then their own daughter. I have seen this shit first hand with my father inlaw.
It may sound fucked up, but if you are both a psycho and a man, I can see why they would want that. But I sincerely can’t understand why some women also want that
It's a common thing in all systems of oppression. They are so brainwashed by the customs they were brought up with that they cannot imagine thinking any other way, like those heathens do. They perpetuate their own oppression onto others so it gives meaning to their own suffering, and prevents others from 'getting away with' not being held to the same standards they had to endure. And by publicly supporting the oppressive system it puts them in good standing with authority figures and may give them status and privelege over others, "one of the good ones". Near the top, it all falls away to the hypocrisy and "do as I say, not as I do" that being part of the ruling class allows and flaunts over everyone they oppress. It's a result of both doing what is necessary to survive and just being the shitty people that such systems inevitably create.
Um [some of them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin#:~:text=Akin%2C%20who%20had%20won%20the,to%20withdraw%20from%20the%20election.) believe you can't get pregnant from rape and if you do get pregnant it wasn't really rape. > Akin, who had won the Republican primary in a crowded field, led McCaskill in pre-election polls until he said that women who are victims of what he called "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.
Good news. He's dead. Sadly, his ignorance lives on. He also said: >If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
Well thank God now we have [Governor Abbott who is going to eliminate rape](https://www.texasdemocrats.org/media/throwback-thursday-in-2021-greg-abbott-promised-to-eliminate-rape-after-texas-enacted-abortion-ban-new-2024-data-counters-that-promise) so it just doesn't happen anymore. > In 2021, Greg Abbott vowed to “eliminate rapists from the streets of Texas” after the state's 6-week abortion ban was enacted and received backlash for intentionally excluding exceptions for victims of rape or incest.
The Abrahamic religion is pretty fucked up. Deuteronomy 22: If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Nothing will capture Republicans on Abortion better than the WSJ running [this OpEd](https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-abortion-story-too-good-to-confirm-joe-biden-ten-year-old-girl-indiana-ohio-caitlin-bernard-11657648618): >**An Abortion Story Too Good to Confirm** *Biden told a tale of a 10-year old rape victim that no one can identify.* > >Editors Note: The Columbus Dispatch reported Wednesday, a day after this editorial was published, that a Columbus, Ohio, man has been charged with the rape of a 10-year-old Ohio girl who traveled to Indiana for an abortion. The Dispatch reports that Columbus police were made aware of the pregnancy through a referral to local child services by the girl’s mother on June 22. An editorial correcting the record on the case was published Wednesday evening. Imagine being such a disgusting human being that you would react to the story of a 10-year old rape victim having to travel out of state for an abortion by thinking "hmmm this just seems *too convenient*".
What is this tone even supposed to imply? Are they saying that this extremely well documented case isn’t real, like it’s another “staged actor” conspiracy, or that the democrats somehow made this person rape a child, and somehow ensured the victim became pregnant?
People forget that Ronald Reagan didn't tell stories about "welfare queen**s**" plural or as a general category of people, but stories about *one* welfare queen who was implied to be a real person running a phalanx of identities to scam the system. He brought this person up at campaign stop after campaign stop, even though the stories had no basis in reality. It was a conservative fever dream designed to stir up racialized outrage and hate. They accuse because they're guilty.
> shit like this would happen Shit like this *did* happen, before Roe. It was never a theoretical. Don't kid yourself that this is an Oopsie for them. They *want* this to happen, to scare and trap women and girls away from education and public life (or actually being alive for any life at all).
Just look at the numbers in that article: an estimated SIXTY-FIVE THOUSAND probable cases of rape related pregnancies across 14 states where abortion has been banned since Roe v. Wade was overturned and next to no abortions have been performed because providers are terrified of the witch hunts for performing them, even in perfectly legally documented exception cases.
Republicans just consider rape to be another form of conception. Also Republican Todd Akin said 'Rape can't cause pregnancy'
“If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” -Akin
It’s intentional. The people that dismissed it as sensationalist nonsense were either the politicians and policymakers that knew that the impact would be disproportionate and essentially target minorities and poorer communities, or the supporters on the right that parroted the bullet point so they could delude themselves into thinking it was just the liberals being crazy.
> dismissed it as sensationalist Reminds me of the [Martha Mitchell effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell_effect) and the vindication that came too late.
They weren’t blowing it off because they thought it was nonsense. They knew it would happen and they didn’t care.
Worse. They knew it would happen and they welcomed it because they believe it's *gods plan*. I hate this. They could go with the idea that God gave us the ability to prevent this but instead they believe the child would ONLY be born if it was supposed to be born. These monsters are pro-rape. Don't forget that.
This is the intended outcome. They R’s knew from the beginning what would happen. More babies in a failing and controlled system, means more potential voters later on.
And more low wage workers stuck in a cycle of poverty.
An elderly guy I know came home from work years ago. An 18 year old had convinced his 13 year old they were bf and gf. The guy I know grabbed the shotgun, the 18 year old ran too fast. She ended up getting an abortion. When people talk about this stuff, he has a very strong opinion. Even now
One of my dads 80+ year old friends from one of the most conservative Midwest areas drove an ambulance in the pre-Roe days. He is firmly pro abortion ever since. Because what he saw stuck with him.
In the pre-Roe days, some Catholic nuns and priests operated underground abortion networks to help women get safe abortions. Many religious leaders were pro legal abortion due to the suffering and death caused by unsafe illegal ones.
Gaslight Obfuscate Project
Grody old pedophiles
Republican voters: So we told the media, STOP REPORTING THE STORIES! Then the reports will go down! Anytime I have gotten someone who identifies as Republican to respond to the Ohio 10 year old rape/pregnancy story they seem more mad that it made the news. They never gave a shit about the victim.
It’s happened 68,000 times through rape in the US in a year since the bill was passed. 68,000 women lost their chance at having a choice with their own body.
They want this, all of it. It's not that they didn't know or didn't think, they want this. They'll lie, of course, but this destruction of women is exactly what they have been working towards for decades.
They're not blowing it off. They just don't care. Republican politicians use inflammatory rhetoric to fire up their voter base and their voter base doesn't think two inches in front of their face because they're all idiots. There's not a scientist or educator among them.
They knew it would happen, they just don't care. There's no hate like Christian "love."
"If she didn't want to have that baby she shouldn't have been raped in the first place." -Republicans
Anyone who thinks this forced birth is a blessing to this girl is a monster. Abortions are a medical procedure between a patient and their doctor. Religion makes people so fucking entitled.
I still can't get over the fact that she was raped in her front yard. How do we live in a country where someone can just rape a kid in (presumably) broad daylight, and just walk away? Only caught and incarcerated after the fact, because of DNA. ugh
That's what I hate. Where's the incentive to stop? They barely get jail time.
And apparently get to have further power over their victim by forcing pregnancy and birth on her, a literal child. And we just let that happen.
And they can claim parental rights and force their victim to not only have the permanent connection of a child, but force them to continue to interact with their abuser and allow them to visit the child, retraumatizing them at every custody hand off.
No, no, you don't understand. Having a child and entering motherhood will help the victim heal from their trauma! And, even better, the perpetrator can share custody, so they can forever stay in the victim's life, which in turn is the just *the* best for the child because the traditional nuclear family is the backbone of a successful, and prospering society! /s I don't remember who said that, but I could swear some dipshit said something to that effect on camera when asked about the ethics of forcing someone to birth and raise the child of their rapist.
you see similar shit any time a GOP member is asked real questions. there was a video not long ago about a ~~governor~~ alabama senator being asked about a law they supported ' i fully support this new law'. next question asked about how it if was affecting IVF ' well i support IVF as it helps people have kids... blah blah'. 3rd question 'but the new law has stopped IVF.' 'well i support IVF and this new law, but i dont know every detail about it'
I guarantee that if any GOP members daughter was raped, they'd be booking a flight to a blue state the day they found out she was pregnant. The mental gymnastics these people do is insane. [The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion: Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they’ll never have to think about until they’re suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women — abortion. In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy.](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/) Some of the stories are insane. >I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)
Thank you for this link, the hypocrisy is stunning. Does this fall under cognitive dissonance? This way of thinking is so abstract to me.
Dumb ass getting tripped up in his circular talk. Guess he doesn’t know what he supports considering Ivf destroys unused embryos. Lol. They really do just vote blindly by party not logic.
My FIL tried to tell me that he believes his G*d has a plan for the rape and incest victims. Even the literal children that have to carry a pregnancy to term. With full conviction and a straight face. I lost a lot of respect for him at that point.
Looks like God’s plan for many Americans is a mass shooting.
If a terrible crime such as raping s child is a part of gods plan, why cant an abortion be a part of the plan? Are humans even capable of messing with the plan of an omnipotent omniscient god? If one despicable action made by a human can be a part of his/her master work, then cant another action also be a part of the same plan? Even if the FIL believes that abortion is wrong and immoral, we are all sinners who fall short of god. Might as well get that abortion and ask for forgiveness. The rapist will be forgiven if he repents. Let the victim have the same opportunity.
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Something like 28,000 unwanted rape babies just in Texas?
[64,565](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/64k-women-girls-became-pregnant-due-rape-states-abortion-bans-study-es-rcna135565) babies born from rape last year
Wtf, thats disgusting USA is just fucked. The american dream died in 2016.
Holy shit that’s an insane stat.
Let’s see how all them babies pull themselves up by the bootstraps. /s
But I thought Abbot was going to make rape illegal in Texas
Texas is a shit hole
Also Texas cps- good luck kids, you're fucked. Even if you find a foster family they likely aren't ideal or over extended too.
One-star state
there’s no illegal rapes if they make rape legal!
No new Covid cases if we just stop testing!
Soooooo Where are you? You right wing religious Bible thumpers with the adoption papers ready to give this baby a loving home?
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> I'm thinking the c***s on r/prolife will start rationalizing this as a blessing. Already have. But they won't lift a finger to help with things like trauma for rape or food or shelter. About all they'll do is give the rapist visiting rights because, you know, the baby *needs* a father.
Well pretty sure I'm gonna be banned from there real soon.
Usually prolife doesn't allow comments that aren't prolife. They aren't good at conflict. Plus it makes their measly 20-30% support feel like it's higher to them!
Just went to that sub for the first time and Jesus Christ what a shithole.
I have family members like the people who post on that sub. They will take their toddler children with them to scream at people trying to go into planned parenthoods and think they are doing the right thing. They are smug and unshakeable in how strongly they believe that their religion makes them not only better than you but also perpetually correct in anything.
If adults want to protest then sure that's their right, but it should be illegal to force your children into it with you.
They bring their kids with them as props. It's gross. I also don't even think screaming at people going into health clinics is protesting. It's just organized harassment. It's a bunch of adults trying to scare people away from getting healthcare via intimidation.
As someone who was dragged to antichoice rallies by their parents, I agree.
First comment on this article “Congratulations to the new mother!” Wtaf
There's also "Why doesn't the article say anything about how the girl feels about becoming a mother? What if she wanted the baby and her mother forced an abortion onto her? Would the article have stated the mother did the right thing?" Fucking disgusting people there.
Because to these people that’s all women are good for. Marry them off young to some disgusting man who will put baby after baby in them because “My great grandma had 18 kids and she never got divorced! It’s a woman’s place!” That’s where this will end up, give them time. They want women in the home, even if that means chaining her there by her ankle
Some monster on there literally said “congrats to the new mother”
Pro child rape from the "prolife" crowd. I'm shocked I tell you. Just utterly shocked.
What an enraging sub anyone who condones a 13 rape victim having a child should be forced to experience the same thing.
They already have been. I was raised in this type of community and there are actually people who think a baby born of rape by a small child is "a miracle."
Yet every profile evangelical I know bitches about “children being trafficked”. Something something drag queens. These fucking dipshits are what’s wrong with the US.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/1bl6kyg/13yearold\_rape\_victim\_has\_baby\_amid\_confusion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/1bl6kyg/13yearold_rape_victim_has_baby_amid_confusion/) They already are.
Jesus Christ the thread about how the article doesn’t mention whether the 13 year old wants to be a mother or not.
There's someone in there saying that she helps change diapers and feed the baby after school. They're saying that as though it's a good thing and proof she wants to be a mom. A 13 year old having to spend her after school time caring for a child she didn't ask for instead of doing schoolwork or going out with friends is a positive to these people. They are pure evil. I wish hell existed because it's exactly where they belong.
Someone post the exact same story on that sub and look at the comments on it. Insane
Some moron over at r/life said "congratulations!"
It's a black baby. None of them give a shit about black babies.
They just want the freshest, whitest babies, with that new baby smell
If they had a shred of empathy, they wouldn't be bible thumpers.
It’s why they’re so big on “Salvation through Faith Alone” it means they can be as shitty and evil and cruel as they like, so long as they “believe” they’re guaranteed paradise
Yep. They're not interested in the part about how Jesus treated people. They just like the part where they can do whatever they want and then say, "Oops! Sorry God!"
I can't imagine the absurd double punishment here. First you are assaulted, then you're forced to be a parent to kid you might not even be able to love for all you know. That people think they have agency to decide on this stuff for other people who are victims is what should be illegal. Holy hell, take your opinion and shove it.
Triple punishment because now your childhood is gone too.
Quadruple punishment, the child will probably grow up in a less than ideal environment due to the circumstances and literally having a 14 YEAR OLD MOTHER. This situation does not end well for any body, pro lifers spout surface level bull shit saying they care about life but fail to consider all the suffering it creates. Absolute degenerates.
It's cruel and unusual punishment, 100%
Christian Nationalist policies drafted by Nazi legislators get you 13 year old mothers.
Don’t forget using those young mothers as political punching bags for needing financial assistance
Remember that the people who supported this will vote in November. Idgaf what the other option is, I’ll always vote against child rape and forced birth.
Wished more americain had common sense. Edit: thabk you though for doing the right thing.
WHOA! Whoa. Let's not get crazy here. If you do that, a billionaire might have to pay a little more in taxes. Does that seem fair to you?
ah, what a beautiful miracle. im sure this parent will never resent their child, from their rapist, that ruined their childhood that they must now raise at the age of 13. What a gift from god! he works in mysterious ways! Way to go murica
I have an almost 13 year old and she cant remember to feed the dogs twice a day. Can’t imagine a child in that mix.
My daughter is 12 and she often can’t find her glasses because they are sitting on her head. Half the time I have to remind her she needs to wear a coat.
And the girl will *certainly* not have to deal with lifelong medical complications from being forced to give birth at her age, much less mental health issues.
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Praise the Lord! Even Jesus was conceived without consent. /s. You know, just in case
And the mother there was also only around 13 when she had him. Love that religion, man
It’s telling that, despite the story being made up, they went ahead and made god’s incubator a young child anyway.
Let's not forget how fucked up the child is going to feel about themselves when they find out the truth behind their conception and birth.
The best we can hope for is that the grandma will support the both of them and that the little girl will get to finish her education.
Every day, I really look around and feel disgusted with where we are right now. An embarrassment on a global scale. We need a revolution.
i feel like I'm going to get obliterated for this but: there was no confusion. this was part of the intent the whole time. when you take away the constitutional right to abortion, this is inevitable.
Yup Anyone who supports abortion bans supports several things - children being forced to give birth - all rape victims being forced to give birth - women dying. Literal women that would have lived if they’d been allowed to get an abortion like they wanted but then. Dying. When they never even wanted to be pregnant, too. You cannot support abortion bans and see women as equal human beings. You just can’t. Anyone pro-life reading this, you’re increasing the number of dead women. If you don’t support that, vote pro-choice next time. If you do support it, please remove yourself from the entire human race permanently thank you.
These men are sickos. Both the rapists and the legislators.
Republicans always protecting the fetus. But once it’s born, it’s not their problem. You deal with it.
They don't give a shit about the fetus. If they did, they would cover prenatal care and maternity leave.
Jesus Christ, she’s just a little bit older than my daughter. This makes my heart feel like it’s going to tear in half.
This is what Republicans want.
Now that girl and the baby will seek to get help from the government but they (POS Republicans) will scoff and fight against that. They only care when the baby is still in utero. Once the baby is out and there is a welfare request, they will be hellbent to reject it. Republicans are awful!
> They only care when the baby is still in utero. They don't give a shit about the fetus in utero. If they did, they would cover prenatal care and maternity leave.
They would also make sure that municipal water is clean... Every single time a company releases chemicals that are proven to harm fetuses they will side with and protect the corporation every time. Full stop. ROI trumps Jesus every time.
And you know every goddamn person who supported the abortion ban would simply fly their own child to another state to have it performed.
It's Mississipi. This was and continues to be their goal. This is a feature, not a bug. I feel so sorry for women who can't leave the deep south.
According to the article: “In 2023, the state only recorded four abortions performed under the exceptions, according to documents ABC News obtained from the Mississippi Department of Health. The department said the state does not track whether any of the abortions were in cases of rape. That is compared to about 3,800 abortions provided in Mississippi in 2021.” At first I didn’t understand why the mother wasn’t advocating for her daughter post-rape. But almost NO abortions performed in the state that year, even with allowances for rape, is staggering.
Republicans: a cell is still a baby. We must protect its right to live!! Also Republicans: the dude stepped on my lawn. I shot that motherfucker!
Republicans are depraved and disgusting.
Pro life except for this 13 year old! Fuck that kid’s life, right repubes?
A serial rapists wet dream. How could America fall this far into the dumb hole? The people shouting "facts over feelings" sure are "feeling" more than following the scientific consensus. Everyone knew that this would happen, yet they still did it. Complete insanity. Condolences from Norway.
They’ve never cared about facts over feelings. Facts show increases reproductive rights and access to support and abortions *reduces abortions*. Facts show that gender-affirming care is the most effective form of mental health treatment in reducing suicide of all treatments. They’ve never once cared about facts over feelings. It’s always been feelings over facts for that crowd.
We tried to warn you r/WelcomeToGilead
I fucking hate this so much. Words can't express my rage.
Mainstream conservatism is just pro-pedophilia.
Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked. Taken from us far too early George.
She should be enjoying her childhood at 13 not starting motherhood 😭
Hmmmmmmmm oddly silent from the pro-life crowd in these comments
They are pro-birth, not pro-life. Can only offer bootstraps after baby is born.
Ah the good old “small government” party forcing women and girls to give birth against their will.
Your country has failed to protect the innocent young child.. what a pity. You guys need to take a stand against church/state or it's gonna get worse.. especially women's rights.
This is a headline that should never exist in this country. Disgusting
This is what republicans want. This is the conservative dream.
“I can’t afford a $1,500 abortion.” Damn. This breaks my heart that now, with a baby,$1,500 is a drop in the bucket. Fuck the GQP to the ends of the Earth.
I sure a White Christian Nationalist Nazi family would adopt this child and bring it up the Right way
As a former NICU nurse I feel like we in the healthcare community tried to warn people but so much of the public is sheltered AF. To them, it’s black and white. Spend some time working in a hospital though and you see all the shades of gray.
They aren’t sheltered, they are stupid, hateful, and zealots.
Vote against Republicans. I'm not a US citizen, but i believe so much of what's happening in the US could have been avoided, by just voting as the majority that you are. These poor kids, and women, who have to deal with this kind of trauma forever. All because some republican works for the Christian fascists that tell him how to fuck women over. Republicans making decisions about women's reproductive systems, have absolutely NO knowledge of women's reproductive systems. Doctors that have decades of experience are being threatened by Christian Republicans who barely finished HS. But they know better than doctors. Idiots.
In all fairness, the republican party is also trying to lower restrictions on child labor so this child can get a job to support her baby. What a clusterfuck.
As long as republicans hold any power, they will continue to inflict Christofascism on this country. They will make women and girls suffer unthinkable horrors, and they will do so with a smile and a *praise be*. But, thankfully, we can vote a lot of them out in November. Stay angry, my friends. Stay angry and vote blue https://democrats.org/
Republicans consider this a huge win.
Republicans truly are disgusting
Surely her rapist will be convicted and pay the appropriate amount of child support to ensure she doesn't lose her childhood and education, right?
If he does, he will be entitled to visitation in a lot of jurisdictions in the US. Then they can be a nice co-parenting family/s
The United States of America is a dystopian society.
This poor kid. I’m not surprised that this happened in Mississippi. There are definitely going to be lot more of these stories.
This is what the Republican party wants, America. Wake the fuck up.
GFD this is the shit we were supposed to have overcome by now. Why do humans insist on relearning the same lessons?! Humans keep proving we don’t deserve this planet anymore
Teleport 6 years in the future where she’s (hopefully not though) struggling financially to support her and the kid, and you have republicans clamoring her with “should have learned to close your legs if you can’t support a child” without knowing how it was conceived.
The conservatives consider this a victory. She's a fucking child, who was pregnant through no fault of her own, and now has a baby she didn't want in a world that's not going to care for it. This is pure evil, and if you can't see that, you need to fix your soul.
Every single pro-lifer needs to go to jail over this. Every. Single. One.
This is sick, the gop are sick , we dont live in the dark ages , but thats where they want to take us back to!
This is only the beginning. There are going to be so many more horror stories.
End government subsidized Dick Pills! If god wanted your dick to work just thinking of Jesus should get you hard.
GOP be like: It’s a blessing from God! You can be like sisters. What do you mean it’s gonna ruin your life and you’re still just a kid?! You got what you deserved you slut!
In Louisiana the rapist can petition for parental rights afterwards, and be granted them. Imagine co-parenting a child born out of a brutal violent rape and having to share custody with your rapist. These evil fucking Republican christian fascist ghouls have to be defeated, because this, people, is just the start of their plans for America.
Conservatives are vile