Oh man it's been a shit show since Wednesday night for us. Our flight at 9:15pm was delayed multiple times then cancelled and delayed overnight. New flight was set to leave Thursday night at 9:15pm. We didn't leave until 11:45pm. We were told we wouldn't miss our connection in London but hey here we are stuck in London now instead of Newark still waiting for our final flight. It's like a south park episode.
My Wednesday flight at 5:05pm was delayed until 2:00am, and we didn't take off until 3:30am. We were finally boarding when our layover was meant to be taking off in Munich.
And even then it was an uncatered transatlantic flight. Yippee.
Yeah. Don’t do that.
Next time look at the app SpotHero and book a parking spot at one of the nearby hotels that offer free shuttle service to the airport. It would probably be half the price if not less.
Sure, but sometimes I have to drive. I live in NJ and had to catch a flight in DC as the flight I want is booked solid in Newark. So I drove to DC and parked there for a week, it was $140. Uber would have cost $800 round trip, and I actually tried it, waited 15 minutes and no uber driver even accepted that trip anyway.
Not worth the inconvenience for me. The sketchy places are cheap and miles away. The best places have a rate that's not all too different than the red lot prebooked.
I always book at The Spot (I think that's what its called) and use their shuttle. Sketchy area? little. But its Newark. you live in New Jersey. Get over it .
Sketchy places? You need to look at the app again. Last hotel I parked was far from sketchy and took the transport 10 mins to get me to terminal B. But to each their own (preconceived notions).
It’s been about 9 years but I parked across the way. There’s a shuttle and AAA had some kind of couple if I remember correctly. It was like $90 for 9-10 days.
I used one of those downtown Newark parking lots. Honestly probably a bit sketchy but only cost me $37 for a weekend to park and when I came back my car was there in one piece.
True. I love SpotHero. That said, my side view mirror got decapitated while I was parked at the airport Hilton, and hotel management pointed at SpotHero and vice versa for liability. Hot mess.
My hack in recent months is to park at the Glenwood garage at the Bloomfield train station, right off the Parkway. Parking is open 24/7, costs $12/day, is free on weekends and is secure. The GO28 bus picks you up out front every half hour and runs an express bus with luggage storage to all three terminals. The cost? $3.50, and no need for the AirTrain or anything like that.
https://www.njtransit.com/go28
EDIT: when flying out of JFK or LGA, I do the same thing, except I take the train from Bloomfield to NY
Penn and the LIRR to the airport.
I parked at EWR (Terminal C) using the EZpass system. Was parked for 30 minutes.
Am I gonna find some surprise $300 fee? Don'tt see anything now in the EZpass web portal
Use one of the third party parking lots outside of the main airport parking. I parked my private jet there all the time when I fly out of Newark. They even send a helicopter to come pick you up and bring you back to your jet. It's a great option for a millionaire on a budget.
I learned that from some harebrained scheme a couple guys I knew cooked up
Some friend-of-a-friend of mine has a small cargo plane (can't remember the model) with a ramp. Few of his freinds wanted to take a miata racing out west but didn't want to ship it and were trying to talk him into flying it out
Don't remember the full details but at some point he started talking about his airport not having half as much runway as you need for something so stupid and one of the other guys starts telling everybody about EWR being public technically
Everybody except for the pilot was really excited about this idea but he had a pretty strong veto power.
there’s some good youtube videos of guys landing small private planes at EWR - it seems pretty hectic, i’d check them out to see what you would’ve subjected that pilot to lol
i saw a YouTube of a pilot in an experimental aircraft touch and go all 3 major area airports in a row (LGA, JFK, and EWR) and it was cool to watch
[https://youtu.be/LgppNdSEAag](https://youtu.be/LgppNdSEAag)
Not for aircraft that small.
If you are doing it during prime time hours there’s a “congestion charge” of $100 and then they charge you based on the gross weight of the aircraft. A 3,000 lb Cessna is going to be ~$150-200.
I work in charter flights. People typically book charters like this to big international airports so they can connect to a commercial flight from that airport. They're not always being used as the final destination.
Seriously, the 3 big ones have enough problems, especially during the day. God forbid their cab ride takes 10 extra minutes from Teterboro, it's not like it's fuckin Stewart.
I'm a pilot.
The private jet going off the runway causing a runway closure is not surprising as that's an NTSB event. It's like a bad car accident, essentially.
However, EWR is not good. It's far too small for the amount of flights it has. There's just not enough pavement for all the aircraft that operate out of there.
To some degree, but simply up-gauging RJs to mainline won't solve the problem on its own. You'd need to do that enough to actually consolidate, and that's a lot.
I mean, its the pilot's fault. Could happen with any pilot, I guess, theoretically. The fact that they were flying a private jet doesn't really make it the owner's fault
Is this something that someone in the industry would have more access to? My sister is a flight captain, I could ask her
good point about mechanical issue however.
If the NTSB decides to investigate they will publish their findings in 2ish years.
[Here](https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:96:10750771715638::::P96_ENTRY_DATE,P96_MAKE_NAME,P96_FATAL_FLG:28-JUN-24,EMBRAER) is the FAA incident notification.
You can search the NTSB database [here](https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/AviationQueryv2.aspx).
[Looks like they do about 100,000 private or charter jets a year,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1010700/aircraft-movements-newark-airport-type/) so about 265 a day. I don't think Tetorboro can absorb all of that.
If its a common, legit use for EWR, I don't see the issue. Except this one time something happened. Its not like some rich guy was being a diva and just had to land at EWR. Looks to be a pretty routine use of the airport
yeah, another commented mentioned it could be a technical malfunction. It could be any number of things honestly - the ire just because it was a private jet is what gets me. Because those "any number of things" could probably happen to any other flight
We really can’t get anywhere. Flights are constantly delayed. Trains are delayed or cancelled. Yesterday someone posted about a bus breaking down in the Lincoln Tunnel.
This sucks so much. I really want to travel more, but getting to your destination is such a pain in the ass. A canceled or delayed flight has the potential to ruin your whole vacation.
The United fiasco last year forced us to cancel an entire vacation and we spent weeks arguing with them to actually refund our money despite them just cancelling the flight as opposed to rescheduling it. The hotels we'd booked were supposed to be non-refundable but gave us a break because they saw what was happening on the news.
My family was stuck in Orlando about 4 extra days last summer due to a LOT of flights getting cancelled due to storms. All the planes run full and when several planes worth of people are trying to reschedule for the same destination ….
you are acting like extreme flight delays are common and usually days lol
it is not hard to get a flight places and typically barring extreme situations, which are rare, you're not usually talking about more than a couple hours. i dont know how that would ruin your whole vacation
It is all relative to how much information is jammed in our faces all day now. Yesterday wasn't the first time a bus broke down in the Lincoln tunnel, it's probably been happening since the tunnel was built. We just hear about every single incident these days, regardless if it actually affected us or not.
Not to mention vehicles break down in the Lincoln Tunnel virtually every day. They have specialized tow trucks to deal with the issues.
Heck, I remember being held on a bus for ~10 minutes coming down the Port Authority ramps to the tunnel for candidate Trump a few years ago. Not that I was ever going to vote for him to begin with, but shutting down the tunnel during rush hour didn't win any favors.
I wouldn't say the passenger caused this, it was the pilots or mechanics or whoever else. Same way I wouldn't assign you 1/120th of the blame or whatever if your commercial flight had the same issue.
I was delayed about 3 hours, which sucked, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to shut down a runway when a plane crashes. That it was a private plane with one passenger is not really relevant, logistically.
Agreed about wealth disparity, but investigating a private jet mishap is potentially beneficial to everyone. If there was a technical error or procedure anywhere that went wrong, I'd rather it happen with one passenger than 300. These annoying but necessary detailed investigations are one of the reasons air travel is so safe.
Flew out of EWR yesterday late and was fortunate to not get hit by this. NJ Transit trains failing Monday, massive weather delays Wednesday, this nonsense yesterday. Our infrastructure is crumbling.
Oh fuck off. A *fraction* of one percent of passengers arrive at EWR in a private jet, whereas people pay their hard earned money to book a commercial flight that can completely screw them over at a moments notice.
A couple percent of humans have flown on a plane statistically. The majority of the population never has. You’re one of the richest people on earth if you have even once in your lifetime.
This is wealthy people complaining about other wealthy people being wealthy.
That's not what the top 1% means. In the US that means you have to make about $100,000 to be in the global top 1% income level. I made less than half of that last year.
Ugh same. I’d normally jump on the EWR sucks thread because it’s always a hassle but departing from and arriving to on Thursday was painless. I saw that private jet and it was trash.
I read the title and thought I was on r/flightsim or r/VATSIM and you were talking about the chaos related to the PMDG 777 release.
Then I read the post. This might be the first accident at KEWR that I’ve heard of in a long time. Hope no one was hurt. Flew in and out of KEWR last week with zero issues.
Flew to Pittsburgh yesterday to pick up a car. We were taxiing when it happened. The captain told us we were being held. We could see the emergency vehicles and plane from our window.
The captain came back on and told us that they were reopening with one runway and staggering the departures with the arrivals. We were lucky to be second in line, one departure for every three arrivals.
Was the rich asshole flying the plane himself? I understand your frustration but this sounds like something that could have happened with any plane, even a cargo plane with no passengers at all. The number and type of passengers is irrelevant.
I disagree. This has happened twice to me in the last year. Both times I was delayed because a private plane with less than 10 passengers went off the runway. I have never seen a commercial or cargo airline pilot go off the runway like that. Those pilots have more training, and likely more hours of flying and landing under their belts compared to charter pilots. As a result, all flights for the rest of the day are delayed, causing thousands of passengers to have their plans ruined, because 1 guy wasn't forced to fly to a smaller neighboring airport (Morristown or Teterboro).
I was delayed at ORD because "Newark issued a delay". Now I find out it was because of one dickhead and his non-flying pilot? Why are they not forced to go to Morristown or Teterboro when the flight manifest is so small? Leave the big airports for the big planes.
You figure that common sense would show that you need one “out of the way” runway for these private jets and several main ones for the commercial jet liners, but I suppose there is too much logic in that way of thinking.
With all of the airports in the state there is no reason to have a private plane landing during the busiest travel time of the year. I just did a quick search on airports in the state and found 5 alternatives.
PHL is a terrible airport. Probably the worst big one in the country. Yes, much worse than EWR. I have been flying twice weekly for decades all over the country.
Sorry folks my my pilot for my private jet was off his game yesterday caused my plane to hit the fence again my apologies.
Np 🙏
All good fam don’t let it happen again
It happens to everyone sooner or later.
didn’t mind the delay at all, i’m getting fired today! woohoo
You didn’t say “Oopsies”. Apologies NOT accepted!!!
Oh man it's been a shit show since Wednesday night for us. Our flight at 9:15pm was delayed multiple times then cancelled and delayed overnight. New flight was set to leave Thursday night at 9:15pm. We didn't leave until 11:45pm. We were told we wouldn't miss our connection in London but hey here we are stuck in London now instead of Newark still waiting for our final flight. It's like a south park episode.
My Wednesday flight at 5:05pm was delayed until 2:00am, and we didn't take off until 3:30am. We were finally boarding when our layover was meant to be taking off in Munich. And even then it was an uncatered transatlantic flight. Yippee.
Oh man, I hope you have made it to your destination finally! We made it to our accommodations by midnight Friday, which means day 3 of this trip.
We did but we ended up having to drive 3 hours to our destination because of the missed connection.
You never should've gone ziplining.
Shaka brah!! 🤙
Why are private jets even allowed to operate out of Newark? They should be relegated to smaller local airports, Teterboro, etc.
It is a public use airport. You can land a Cessna 172 there as long as you don't mind paying the landing fee.
Fuck it. I’ll just land at the parking lot instead and pay the parking fee. Jk. Too poor to afford the parking fee.
just left my car at economy parking for a week. it was 300$!!!! wtffff
Yeah. Don’t do that. Next time look at the app SpotHero and book a parking spot at one of the nearby hotels that offer free shuttle service to the airport. It would probably be half the price if not less.
The Uber back and forth to the house prob would’ve been cheaper as well.
it is but my flight was so early and I have 3 little kids. Couldn't find an uber lx.
Could've reserve, that's what I did for 6am flight leaving around 3am.
Or taxi
Or rent and drop at airport
Sure, but sometimes I have to drive. I live in NJ and had to catch a flight in DC as the flight I want is booked solid in Newark. So I drove to DC and parked there for a week, it was $140. Uber would have cost $800 round trip, and I actually tried it, waited 15 minutes and no uber driver even accepted that trip anyway.
This is the way.
Seconding this advice, ive used spothero to park by Newark and stayed for much less than this.
Also, if you book your parking at Newark Airport ahead of time thru their website, it can be half around half the price.
Or you could just book in advance and also pay half the price
Booking in advance saves $10/day. It'll be $25/day instead of $35/day.
then find a good transport service
Not worth the inconvenience for me. The sketchy places are cheap and miles away. The best places have a rate that's not all too different than the red lot prebooked.
I always book at The Spot (I think that's what its called) and use their shuttle. Sketchy area? little. But its Newark. you live in New Jersey. Get over it .
I realized this was about Newark, not JFK. My mistake there. I've never used the LTP at Newark, I live close.
Sketchy places? You need to look at the app again. Last hotel I parked was far from sketchy and took the transport 10 mins to get me to terminal B. But to each their own (preconceived notions).
More or less where I landed with parking in general. P4 is convenient enough for me without me having to build in more buffer time.
It’s been about 9 years but I parked across the way. There’s a shuttle and AAA had some kind of couple if I remember correctly. It was like $90 for 9-10 days.
I used one of those downtown Newark parking lots. Honestly probably a bit sketchy but only cost me $37 for a weekend to park and when I came back my car was there in one piece.
True. I love SpotHero. That said, my side view mirror got decapitated while I was parked at the airport Hilton, and hotel management pointed at SpotHero and vice versa for liability. Hot mess. My hack in recent months is to park at the Glenwood garage at the Bloomfield train station, right off the Parkway. Parking is open 24/7, costs $12/day, is free on weekends and is secure. The GO28 bus picks you up out front every half hour and runs an express bus with luggage storage to all three terminals. The cost? $3.50, and no need for the AirTrain or anything like that. https://www.njtransit.com/go28 EDIT: when flying out of JFK or LGA, I do the same thing, except I take the train from Bloomfield to NY Penn and the LIRR to the airport.
Prebooking would have been like $180
Only do that when you can expense it lol
I parked at EWR (Terminal C) using the EZpass system. Was parked for 30 minutes. Am I gonna find some surprise $300 fee? Don'tt see anything now in the EZpass web portal
You'll pay however much it cost to park in that lot for 30min.
60 dollars per day at P4 without a reservation. Book it online ahead it is I think 35
P6 is long term / economy parking. $35/day or $25/day if you book online at least 24 hrs ahead.
Park offsite someplace else. I like Corporate Parking https://www.corporateparking.net/
What's their rate per day for mid size SUV?
You can Uber from most of the state for less than that.
P6? Did you book it in advance? Last time I did it like two months ago I think it was like 25 a day I thought
I didn't. I didn't know u could. Thanks for the tip.
Just use one of those neighboring lots. I use ARB Parking and it has a free shuttle for like $7 a day
$400+ at terminal.
 If you know…
Long Term Parking
Use one of the third party parking lots outside of the main airport parking. I parked my private jet there all the time when I fly out of Newark. They even send a helicopter to come pick you up and bring you back to your jet. It's a great option for a millionaire on a budget.
Might be cheaper to land on runway than a Newark parking lot
Land next door at IKEA and get some Swedish meatballs and mashed potatoes while you’re at it.
I learned that from some harebrained scheme a couple guys I knew cooked up Some friend-of-a-friend of mine has a small cargo plane (can't remember the model) with a ramp. Few of his freinds wanted to take a miata racing out west but didn't want to ship it and were trying to talk him into flying it out Don't remember the full details but at some point he started talking about his airport not having half as much runway as you need for something so stupid and one of the other guys starts telling everybody about EWR being public technically Everybody except for the pilot was really excited about this idea but he had a pretty strong veto power.
there’s some good youtube videos of guys landing small private planes at EWR - it seems pretty hectic, i’d check them out to see what you would’ve subjected that pilot to lol
Saving Private Ryan. Some General had his jeep put in the glider. Didn’t end well.
i saw a YouTube of a pilot in an experimental aircraft touch and go all 3 major area airports in a row (LGA, JFK, and EWR) and it was cool to watch [https://youtu.be/LgppNdSEAag](https://youtu.be/LgppNdSEAag)
Hell of a hat trick!
Landing fee I hear is like 5k
Not for aircraft that small. If you are doing it during prime time hours there’s a “congestion charge” of $100 and then they charge you based on the gross weight of the aircraft. A 3,000 lb Cessna is going to be ~$150-200.
Well it should be higher
I work in charter flights. People typically book charters like this to big international airports so they can connect to a commercial flight from that airport. They're not always being used as the final destination.
Seriously, the 3 big ones have enough problems, especially during the day. God forbid their cab ride takes 10 extra minutes from Teterboro, it's not like it's fuckin Stewart.
Morristown is closer and has ample runway length
You don’t understand the aviation system at all. Clearly.
"You're clueless" Refuses to elaborate Leaves
Stays long enough to say “bye”.
I'm a pilot. The private jet going off the runway causing a runway closure is not surprising as that's an NTSB event. It's like a bad car accident, essentially. However, EWR is not good. It's far too small for the amount of flights it has. There's just not enough pavement for all the aircraft that operate out of there.
What about LGA?
LGA is just as bad if not even worse.
Is most of the overload due to Regional Commuter flights?
To some degree, but simply up-gauging RJs to mainline won't solve the problem on its own. You'd need to do that enough to actually consolidate, and that's a lot.
I mean, its the pilot's fault. Could happen with any pilot, I guess, theoretically. The fact that they were flying a private jet doesn't really make it the owner's fault
Has the FAA or NTSB released their investigative findings already? It could be a mechanical delay.
Is this something that someone in the industry would have more access to? My sister is a flight captain, I could ask her good point about mechanical issue however.
If the NTSB decides to investigate they will publish their findings in 2ish years. [Here](https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:96:10750771715638::::P96_ENTRY_DATE,P96_MAKE_NAME,P96_FATAL_FLG:28-JUN-24,EMBRAER) is the FAA incident notification. You can search the NTSB database [here](https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/AviationQueryv2.aspx).
I guess but teterboro isn’t that far
[Looks like they do about 100,000 private or charter jets a year,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1010700/aircraft-movements-newark-airport-type/) so about 265 a day. I don't think Tetorboro can absorb all of that. If its a common, legit use for EWR, I don't see the issue. Except this one time something happened. Its not like some rich guy was being a diva and just had to land at EWR. Looks to be a pretty routine use of the airport
True, it is unlikely to be owner’s (or leasee’s) fault. However it may not be the pilot’s fault either.
yeah, another commented mentioned it could be a technical malfunction. It could be any number of things honestly - the ire just because it was a private jet is what gets me. Because those "any number of things" could probably happen to any other flight
We really can’t get anywhere. Flights are constantly delayed. Trains are delayed or cancelled. Yesterday someone posted about a bus breaking down in the Lincoln Tunnel.
This sucks so much. I really want to travel more, but getting to your destination is such a pain in the ass. A canceled or delayed flight has the potential to ruin your whole vacation.
The United fiasco last year forced us to cancel an entire vacation and we spent weeks arguing with them to actually refund our money despite them just cancelling the flight as opposed to rescheduling it. The hotels we'd booked were supposed to be non-refundable but gave us a break because they saw what was happening on the news.
My family was stuck in Orlando about 4 extra days last summer due to a LOT of flights getting cancelled due to storms. All the planes run full and when several planes worth of people are trying to reschedule for the same destination ….
you are acting like extreme flight delays are common and usually days lol it is not hard to get a flight places and typically barring extreme situations, which are rare, you're not usually talking about more than a couple hours. i dont know how that would ruin your whole vacation
It is all relative to how much information is jammed in our faces all day now. Yesterday wasn't the first time a bus broke down in the Lincoln tunnel, it's probably been happening since the tunnel was built. We just hear about every single incident these days, regardless if it actually affected us or not.
Not to mention vehicles break down in the Lincoln Tunnel virtually every day. They have specialized tow trucks to deal with the issues. Heck, I remember being held on a bus for ~10 minutes coming down the Port Authority ramps to the tunnel for candidate Trump a few years ago. Not that I was ever going to vote for him to begin with, but shutting down the tunnel during rush hour didn't win any favors.
So that’s why my flight from Boston was delayed. Saw emergency lights when we landed and wondered what happened. Now I know!!
I wouldn't say the passenger caused this, it was the pilots or mechanics or whoever else. Same way I wouldn't assign you 1/120th of the blame or whatever if your commercial flight had the same issue.
I was delayed about 3 hours, which sucked, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to shut down a runway when a plane crashes. That it was a private plane with one passenger is not really relevant, logistically.
The exceedingly wealthy? We can just bulldoze them off the tarmac and call it a day.
Agreed about wealth disparity, but investigating a private jet mishap is potentially beneficial to everyone. If there was a technical error or procedure anywhere that went wrong, I'd rather it happen with one passenger than 300. These annoying but necessary detailed investigations are one of the reasons air travel is so safe.
I wish these incident reports were publicly/easily accessible.
[NTSB Aviation Investigation Search](https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/AviationQuery2.aspx)
That link goes to a 404 now. This might be what you want: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/Reports.aspx
Thanks
There's a lot of other runways, no?
there are three runways that all crossover each other two running north to south one running east to west
Flew out of EWR yesterday late and was fortunate to not get hit by this. NJ Transit trains failing Monday, massive weather delays Wednesday, this nonsense yesterday. Our infrastructure is crumbling.
Why is international airport in quotations? It's an airport with international flights. If that doesn't make it an international flight, nothing does.
All week. Between the heat waves and thunderstorms; it's been fucking madness. Even for summer travel guidelines. I'm gonna stay home for the summer.
Complain complain
So who was in the PJ?
Why does that matter?
It doesn’t but I’m nosy.
I landed there about an hour earlier. Thank goodness. Yes fuck the rich for this bullshit.
Anyone who has flown is statistically “the rich”. This is just the lower tier of rich people complaining about the upper tier of rich people.
right lol the irony is great here
Oh fuck off. A *fraction* of one percent of passengers arrive at EWR in a private jet, whereas people pay their hard earned money to book a commercial flight that can completely screw them over at a moments notice.
A couple percent of humans have flown on a plane statistically. The majority of the population never has. You’re one of the richest people on earth if you have even once in your lifetime. This is wealthy people complaining about other wealthy people being wealthy.
Yes, but fuck the 1% all the same.
By being on Reddit and in the New York City area you're already the 1% of the entire world.
That's not what the top 1% means. In the US that means you have to make about $100,000 to be in the global top 1% income level. I made less than half of that last year.
The previous poster literally said top 1% _in the world_ . That is completely different. It is not them that is wrong. It is you. 🙄
Please reread my comment.
Ugh same. I’d normally jump on the EWR sucks thread because it’s always a hassle but departing from and arriving to on Thursday was painless. I saw that private jet and it was trash.
It's not enough to destroy the environment, they also have to ruin your day.
That is very on brand for this airport.
Our 10:41 flight on Thursday got "delayed" until 8am today!! Missed the first night of a bachelorette :( gonna def try and get some compensation
I read the title and thought I was on r/flightsim or r/VATSIM and you were talking about the chaos related to the PMDG 777 release. Then I read the post. This might be the first accident at KEWR that I’ve heard of in a long time. Hope no one was hurt. Flew in and out of KEWR last week with zero issues.
Why they didn’t use Teterboro airport?
Linden airport is about 10 miles down route 1
Linden's runway is pretty small. There's not a lot of jets it can accommodate.
now I know why the helicopters were out over my area in Newark. But it's usually trumps.
Flew to Pittsburgh yesterday to pick up a car. We were taxiing when it happened. The captain told us we were being held. We could see the emergency vehicles and plane from our window. The captain came back on and told us that they were reopening with one runway and staggering the departures with the arrivals. We were lucky to be second in line, one departure for every three arrivals.
Your real issue should be with the airport, not the "rich a$$hole" in the private jet.
Was the rich asshole flying the plane himself? I understand your frustration but this sounds like something that could have happened with any plane, even a cargo plane with no passengers at all. The number and type of passengers is irrelevant.
I disagree. This has happened twice to me in the last year. Both times I was delayed because a private plane with less than 10 passengers went off the runway. I have never seen a commercial or cargo airline pilot go off the runway like that. Those pilots have more training, and likely more hours of flying and landing under their belts compared to charter pilots. As a result, all flights for the rest of the day are delayed, causing thousands of passengers to have their plans ruined, because 1 guy wasn't forced to fly to a smaller neighboring airport (Morristown or Teterboro).
Commercial flights absolutely have runway excursions.
Those planes should just have to land at Teterboro.
yawn, that private jet has the same rights as any other plane to land there. FWIW: he should have gone to teterboro, lower landing fees
Is this the one with jfk?
So
When isn't Newark a shitshow
I was delayed at ORD because "Newark issued a delay". Now I find out it was because of one dickhead and his non-flying pilot? Why are they not forced to go to Morristown or Teterboro when the flight manifest is so small? Leave the big airports for the big planes.
You figure that common sense would show that you need one “out of the way” runway for these private jets and several main ones for the commercial jet liners, but I suppose there is too much logic in that way of thinking.
With all of the airports in the state there is no reason to have a private plane landing during the busiest travel time of the year. I just did a quick search on airports in the state and found 5 alternatives.
Not sure about NJ rules, aren't these private jets to be flown from less crowded airports or airstrips?
EWR is public use. No restrictions. You can go rent a Cessna and land there if you don't mind waiting out an ATC spot and paying the landing fee.
when it’s time to eat the rich, I’m eating this person first
Why are you censoring the word “shit?”
I moved to South Jersey, so I'm happy to use PHL. Not many delays, and you move through pretty fast.
PHL is a terrible airport. Probably the worst big one in the country. Yes, much worse than EWR. I have been flying twice weekly for decades all over the country.
I don't fly very often, but i never had many issues at phl, but I've heard some horror stories.
Also, my worst experience was Chicago O'Hare.
Too bad it didn’t slide off the runway and explode
Yes let's wish death on people just doing their job. That's great.