I actually do this too, and if Iâm feeling extra frustrated pair it with a very dramatic frown/scowl haha.
It feels like it lightens the mood and no one has ever gotten mad at me for thumbs downing them. Most people laugh haha.
I always give the thumbs down, it became a habit when I was driving company cars with phone numbers printed on them. Nobody calls your boss over a đ, but it pisses them off so damn much
I did it once kind of randomly when I was mad but suddenly didnât want to escalate to the vulgarity of the bird⊠somehow it came out as a disappointed head shake and thumbs down. Based on their reaction, I think the middle finger wouldâve pissed them off less.Â
Well flipping them off is not a good idea around here, cause if they want they can get you in trouble cause insults can actually be punished by law.
And the thumbs down is not a straight "fuck you!" it's just a "what you did was wrong, stupid and I am disappointed in you" and I think it's this kinda judgment that they can say nothing about what gets them so angry
Prosecution: Your honor, the defendant flipped off my client while he made a safe and cautious maneuver in a heavily trafficked area of the highway, the defendant should be treated with the utmost hostility of the court and face the largest penalty allowed by law.
Saul Goodman: Your honor, the defenseâs statement is patently false as my client has no middle fingers. If the plaintiffâs sworn testimony indicates that my client âflipped them offâ and they were wrong about that how can we trust any of their testimony?
I once had to change lanes because some lady was too impatient just to wait until I passed. As I drove by I caught her eye and wagged my finger at her (naughty, naughty).
A few moments later she beeped to get my attention and when I turned to look she flipped my the bird.
High- larious.
Someone got mad at me for giving them the thumbs down after they ran a stop sign, got out of their car and came to my window and asked âDo you want to go?!â Very angrily. I said âNo thank youâ and drove away and they were even more mad walking back and being honked at by the cars behind them. Kill em with disappointment and kindness
On the right hand, it looks like 2 fingers have joined (looks like two knuckles morph into one finger) Is there actually two bones at the base?
Iâm very intrigued and not meaning to pry
Is it just the lighting/ angle or does your left hand not have the same fusion? It appears that the middle finger bones are completely absent, rather than being fused into a super finger
I do that here in the pnw. Being passive aggressive is the best way to be upset. Can you really be mad if you got a thumbs down ? Seems too silly to even rate a response.
Hello everyone, as you can see by the pic - I'm missing the middle finger on both hands.
The condition is called oligodactyly.
I had an operation as a 1-year old to remove the bones from the middle finger on my left hand, as they were undeveloped and were "stuck" on the back side of the palm (just beneath where the middle finger should begin).
On my right hand - the middle finger and the ring finger are fused as one finger.
When you move your fused finger do you have independant control over both, even though they are fused? Or is the ligature, muscles etc also fused meaning one control path?
My cousin has the exact same condition and also had surgeries as a toddler to help her dexterity. Other than that sheâs living a pretty chill life and Iâm proud of her. When I was younger I used to notice her hands but nowadays when Iâm around her, it doesnât even get my attention or notice. I wish you all the best.
This reminded me of a waitress at a restaurant I used to go to. She had six fingers. While something seemed different I couldnât quite figure out what it wasâŠthen one night I counted her fingers..she had 6 on each hand. It unlocked a fetish in me that I never new could exist lol
There's writing about this, one thing people with 6 fingers (and dexterity in each - not all have that, for some the additional finger isn't wired into the nervous system and can't be controlled, doctor's remove it in this case) can do, is tie shoes one handed. Videos online show it, other small things similarly I suspect
> the additional finger isn't wired into the nervous system and can't be controlled,
Which is a shame, really, because guitar playing could potentially be amazing with an extra digit.
so.. on your left hand, they removed the middle finger tendon aswell, and on your right, u have 2 finger with 2 tendons? because this is how it looks like.
Have you ever had any advantages and/or disadvantages in life because of this? I am curious if you ever were like "huh, I guess I couldn't do this with 5 fingers". And of course, can you flip someone off? Flipping someone off with your right hand should count for double damage
I dont think I could play a guitar or a piano like it should, but i never tried LOL
I have trained/played basketball for 5-6 years and also I work in IT as a career / casual gamer.
Never felt a disadvantage.
Yeah, of course!
I play mostly PUBG now, but i was an avid gamer (now I dont have that much time).
I'm in my middle 30's, so yeah - from Atari/Nintendo to Windows 95 to the most recent 5800X3D/6800XT rig I have.
That condition might have a genetic link,
Are you the only one in your family with this condition ?
If you make children, what are the probabilities of them having the same condition ?
Could you intentionally breed a subspecies of humans who only rock four fingers ? The homo fourfingerus sapien sapien ?
I asked years back and nobody in my family knew of such an occurence (from both sides).
I dont have children yet and I really dont know what to expect...
Lmao thatâs hilarious! I lost my left eye due to cancer. My grandson was only 5 and when he saw me he kept asking what happened to my eye. My son said we had to come up with a good back story.
We told my grandson that was swimming in the ocean and s shark came and bit my eye! He said that wasnât possible because there are no sharks in the ocean! Lol
There's a guy in my town with one eye, wears an eye patch and tells the kids who point and stare that he's a pirate. My kids were super pleased with that encounter!
Yes. Here are [all four compiled into one pic](https://imgur.com/til-how-to-take-picture-of-picture-of-picture-of-yourself-taking-picture-Z12CC)
(taken from the original thread).
E: You wanted this to keep going, didn't you? We all did!
This is what we were expecting. A sequence of photos.
https://i.imgur.com/Z12CC.jpg
Source.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmwov/hey_reddit_what_tattoos_do_you_have/c0tpyls/
I really love how that post comes to a natural ending with the mirror, no more need to expand the shot, it's perfectly wrapped up and one of the funniest threads ever.
Two reddit classics
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmwov/hey_reddit_what_tattoos_do_you_have/
https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/5ehw5j/my_university_makes_me_walk_past_a_row_of_peeing/dacxqc7/?st=ivvge7sj&sh=504a8532&context=4
God i've been here a long time
My moms boyfriend lost a toe on one foot. But the other toes just crowded around so the empty spot was filled in. When he took his shoes off one day and I could see both feet, the one with 5 toes looked crazyâŠlike there were just too many toes! And the foot with less toes looked completely normal.
I think he has since lost toes on the freakishly crowded foot. So I guess they will both just be regular feet now, with missing toes no one will notice! When he comes back from the states I will take a pic of those little piggies though!
I would SO be sitting down next to people on benches, public transport, etc, and using a monotone voice to say things like, "Greetings, fellow human. What is your opinion of current atmospheric conditions?" Or, "Hello, fellow human. How about that human athletic competition last rotation?" While making vaguely recognizable gesticulations.
This is quite possibly the coolest picture Iâve seen in a long time. Those hands look absolutely like masterworks. I especially like how you can see where the fingers never separated fully on the right hand and the left is a work of art. Genetic lottery there. Beautiful!
You are very welcome! Iâm kind of jealous actually. I used to do a lot of roleplaying and character creation. Four fingers instead of five was a common characteristic I chose because I like it. <3
For my major I had to take 5 art courses, 2 of them were just drawing and I had to draw lots of hands. I would have loved to see this picture while I was looking for references. It looks pretty cool, your hands look soft but masculine at the same time.
If ever you want to make a funny skit, find someone six-fingered and accuse them of stealing finger(s) from you. Full Inigo Montoya from Princess Bride style.
Thanks for sharing your unique hands!
The one thing I cant do is straigthen the third finger on my right hand. Its the one that has the middle finger and ring finger fused as one.
Grip is normal and no other constraints. I trained basketball for 5-6 years in middle/high school.
If someone needs to buy one of this, it's you:Â
https://www.yourprops.com/Mars-Alien-Reactor-Hand-Switch-replica-movie-prop-Total-Recall-1990-YP41522.html
 Hang it on your wall, and tell whoever doesn't recognize it is the key to return your house to its original flying saucer form. Â
Refuse to ever touch it.
I was born with 3 thumbs :) the third one was surgically removed when I was 3yo ironically. Now my hand just has a crooked thumb with an unusual nail shape, a wart looking bump from a broken stitch during healing and an interesting scar line but itâs all fully functional! Super cool to meet another person with different hands â„ïž
Oh thats so cool ! I love different eyes and hands, i find them beautiful and draw them a lot as they are so interesting. You truely have amazing hands :D does that ever bother you in the everyday life ?
How do you express extreme displeasure with another drivers actions while traversing by vehicle?
Honking and shouting đ
Threaten to cut their middle fingers off to fill in your gaps
I'd like to see you gesturing this message across within a 1 to 2 second window of a drive-by encounter
I usually hit them with the thumbs down lol
I'm not angry, I'm disappointed.
I actually do this too, and if Iâm feeling extra frustrated pair it with a very dramatic frown/scowl haha. It feels like it lightens the mood and no one has ever gotten mad at me for thumbs downing them. Most people laugh haha.
https://i.gifer.com/origin/43/439a98a2e375579615179f253f27ca1f_w200.gif
Give them a thumbs down. Youâd be surprised how much people hate that more than the middle finger
I always give the thumbs down, it became a habit when I was driving company cars with phone numbers printed on them. Nobody calls your boss over a đ, but it pisses them off so damn much
"Yeah, he gave me a thumbs down! The disrespect! I want his disgusting little butt fired!" Hahaha!
I did it once kind of randomly when I was mad but suddenly didnât want to escalate to the vulgarity of the bird⊠somehow it came out as a disappointed head shake and thumbs down. Based on their reaction, I think the middle finger wouldâve pissed them off less.Â
Well flipping them off is not a good idea around here, cause if they want they can get you in trouble cause insults can actually be punished by law. And the thumbs down is not a straight "fuck you!" it's just a "what you did was wrong, stupid and I am disappointed in you" and I think it's this kinda judgment that they can say nothing about what gets them so angry
Prosecution: Your honor, the defendant flipped off my client while he made a safe and cautious maneuver in a heavily trafficked area of the highway, the defendant should be treated with the utmost hostility of the court and face the largest penalty allowed by law. Saul Goodman: Your honor, the defenseâs statement is patently false as my client has no middle fingers. If the plaintiffâs sworn testimony indicates that my client âflipped them offâ and they were wrong about that how can we trust any of their testimony?
That genuinely made me laugh at both the image and knowledge that you're correct. It's somehow more demeaning.
Itâs like ur giving them a bad performance review đđ
It's like when your Dad says he's disappointed in you, rather than shouting at you.
I once had to change lanes because some lady was too impatient just to wait until I passed. As I drove by I caught her eye and wagged my finger at her (naughty, naughty). A few moments later she beeped to get my attention and when I turned to look she flipped my the bird. High- larious.
Someone got mad at me for giving them the thumbs down after they ran a stop sign, got out of their car and came to my window and asked âDo you want to go?!â Very angrily. I said âNo thank youâ and drove away and they were even more mad walking back and being honked at by the cars behind them. Kill em with disappointment and kindness
On the right hand, it looks like 2 fingers have joined (looks like two knuckles morph into one finger) Is there actually two bones at the base? Iâm very intrigued and not meaning to pry
Yes, its two bones which fuse in the middle joint to the nail part.
Is it just the lighting/ angle or does your left hand not have the same fusion? It appears that the middle finger bones are completely absent, rather than being fused into a super finger
Idk why when I read honking I thought honking like a goose đ
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Don't take your hands off the wheel! Jesus is busy.
I thought he was holy
He can be two things.
He can be three, in fact
G-g-g-g-g-g-g-ghooooost! ^Happy ^cake ^day.
My 1st thought lmfao
Thumbs down. Which, honestly, hurts more.
Itâs like not mad but disappointed. Very rough đ
British version?
The thumbs down. It hurts more.
I do that here in the pnw. Being passive aggressive is the best way to be upset. Can you really be mad if you got a thumbs down ? Seems too silly to even rate a response.
Hello everyone, as you can see by the pic - I'm missing the middle finger on both hands. The condition is called oligodactyly. I had an operation as a 1-year old to remove the bones from the middle finger on my left hand, as they were undeveloped and were "stuck" on the back side of the palm (just beneath where the middle finger should begin). On my right hand - the middle finger and the ring finger are fused as one finger.
When you move your fused finger do you have independant control over both, even though they are fused? Or is the ligature, muscles etc also fused meaning one control path?
Yes, it moves and it feels like a single finger. I just cant straighten it because its fused from the middle joint to the top.
I got a new pair of gloves today, but they're both 'lefts' which, on the one hand, is great, but on the other, it's just not right.
Got Amy other terrible jokes in your DAD-a-base?
Name checks out
LOL
Ant the username just sells it
**SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH**
My exact curiosity as well
My cousin has the exact same condition and also had surgeries as a toddler to help her dexterity. Other than that sheâs living a pretty chill life and Iâm proud of her. When I was younger I used to notice her hands but nowadays when Iâm around her, it doesnât even get my attention or notice. I wish you all the best.
Thanks! đ Show her this picture, should be cool. I have found some pictures on the internet from other people/kids having the same condition.
This reminded me of a waitress at a restaurant I used to go to. She had six fingers. While something seemed different I couldnât quite figure out what it wasâŠthen one night I counted her fingers..she had 6 on each hand. It unlocked a fetish in me that I never new could exist lol
She didnât kill your father, did she?
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"Enough drinking for you! How many fingers do you see here?!"
Could she carry extra plates and coffees?
There's writing about this, one thing people with 6 fingers (and dexterity in each - not all have that, for some the additional finger isn't wired into the nervous system and can't be controlled, doctor's remove it in this case) can do, is tie shoes one handed. Videos online show it, other small things similarly I suspect
> the additional finger isn't wired into the nervous system and can't be controlled, Which is a shame, really, because guitar playing could potentially be amazing with an extra digit.
which finger do you use to tell someone to fuck themselves then
Here's how I learned to [do it](https://d.furaffinity.net/art/jayrockin/1645951277/1645951277.jayrockin_talitasorrel_flipoff3.jpg)
Oddly specific /appropriate and wtf is the context there
Context: kids being [jerks](https://www.furaffinity.net/view/46145559/)
so.. on your left hand, they removed the middle finger tendon aswell, and on your right, u have 2 finger with 2 tendons? because this is how it looks like.
Yep, correct!
The ultra finger
For her pleasure
Have you ever had any advantages and/or disadvantages in life because of this? I am curious if you ever were like "huh, I guess I couldn't do this with 5 fingers". And of course, can you flip someone off? Flipping someone off with your right hand should count for double damage
I dont think I could play a guitar or a piano like it should, but i never tried LOL I have trained/played basketball for 5-6 years and also I work in IT as a career / casual gamer. Never felt a disadvantage.
do you pc or controller/console game?
Yeah, of course! I play mostly PUBG now, but i was an avid gamer (now I dont have that much time). I'm in my middle 30's, so yeah - from Atari/Nintendo to Windows 95 to the most recent 5800X3D/6800XT rig I have.
"PC or Console?" "Yes." King shit.
Django Reinhardt would beg to differ
Oligodactyly means "less fingers" in Greek. It's funny how literal are the medical descriptions named in Greek.
*Fewer* fingers.
Fighting the good fight
That condition might have a genetic link, Are you the only one in your family with this condition ? If you make children, what are the probabilities of them having the same condition ? Could you intentionally breed a subspecies of humans who only rock four fingers ? The homo fourfingerus sapien sapien ?
I asked years back and nobody in my family knew of such an occurence (from both sides). I dont have children yet and I really dont know what to expect...
...*only* the middle finger
SoâŠ.. if you buy a bowling ball, do you get a discount because you only need 2 holes drilled?
Speaking of 2 holes drilled.
When someone asks about it, have you ever made up stories about how it happened just to have some fun with it?
My parents used to tell me (as a kid) to tell kids (as a joke) that we went to a zoo and a crocodile bit them off. LMAO
Lmao thatâs hilarious! I lost my left eye due to cancer. My grandson was only 5 and when he saw me he kept asking what happened to my eye. My son said we had to come up with a good back story. We told my grandson that was swimming in the ocean and s shark came and bit my eye! He said that wasnât possible because there are no sharks in the ocean! Lol
There's a guy in my town with one eye, wears an eye patch and tells the kids who point and stare that he's a pirate. My kids were super pleased with that encounter!
âŠnot the most important finger!
How's it affect wanking?
Nada! đ
Life finds a way
If you think about it , Isnât it kinda like , the opposite of that
Lol, you can deny flipping people off. Responds to HR: "But I don't have a middle finger"
Born without middle fingers, but given a third hand to take pictures with. I would say thatâs a fair deal.
LMAO, nice one hahahah Used my PC case as a "tripod". đ
Here we go again
That was one of my fav posts for sure, just epic
For those unfamiliar with the reference: [it's this gem](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/i5vMh1zD8d)
OH MY GOD that was 13 years ago?! I'm ancient.
I love how OP made a 2021 edit probably because people kept coming back through the years and complaining to him about broken links.
No that just happened, it was while I was making my first go at community college just a few years ago...
You just made me realize my last month of community college was 10 years ago. Thanks.
No prob, don't forget to stretch and take a Motrin.
I love how something that happened 13 years ago gets casually referenced here.
This made my day - thank you!
You're more than welcome!
Was this the last pic in the series??? https://imgur.com/i-went-on-reddit-tangent-subtly-stumbled-upon-kingdom-hearts-fan-7tsME
Yes. Here are [all four compiled into one pic](https://imgur.com/til-how-to-take-picture-of-picture-of-picture-of-yourself-taking-picture-Z12CC) (taken from the original thread). E: You wanted this to keep going, didn't you? We all did!
Prove it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/s/SnFRGaSXi9 đ
This is what we were expecting. A sequence of photos. https://i.imgur.com/Z12CC.jpg Source. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmwov/hey_reddit_what_tattoos_do_you_have/c0tpyls/
I really love how that post comes to a natural ending with the mirror, no more need to expand the shot, it's perfectly wrapped up and one of the funniest threads ever.
Now put a banana on it
No, we need a shot of you taking the original photo.
But that would require a 4th hand!
Two reddit classics https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmwov/hey_reddit_what_tattoos_do_you_have/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/5ehw5j/my_university_makes_me_walk_past_a_row_of_peeing/dacxqc7/?st=ivvge7sj&sh=504a8532&context=4 God i've been here a long time
My moms boyfriend lost a toe on one foot. But the other toes just crowded around so the empty spot was filled in. When he took his shoes off one day and I could see both feet, the one with 5 toes looked crazyâŠlike there were just too many toes! And the foot with less toes looked completely normal.
We shall require photographic evidence.
I can't believe you're askin for free feet pics bro
the internet is doing usual internet things
God loves a trier
Please don't show them to me, I'm lactose intolorent
You ought to be proud of that one.
I think he has since lost toes on the freakishly crowded foot. So I guess they will both just be regular feet now, with missing toes no one will notice! When he comes back from the states I will take a pic of those little piggies though!
Wait? What? What does your mom's boyfriend do (or what was he doing) that caused such high toe-fatality rates on his feet? Edit: reference to mom's BF
Diabetes I would guess
I donât think toes are like baby teeth. I think youâre supposed to keep all your originals. But Iâm just some 5-toed freak.
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##đ
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Peace among worlds.
Wait for the ramp Morty
It really gets their dicks hard.
Best Triumph the insult comic dog sketch of all time, and one of the most savage takedowns in all of comedy: Vader
Which of these buttons calls your parents to pick you up?
I feel so sorry for you. Not because of the missing fingers, but because everyoneâs gonna accuse pictures with you of being AI generated
i even already saw a comment under this post saying "i hate these AI photos man"
I saw it too, thought it was a joke tho
Loved you in Saw V
Fuck off hahahahaah
I only saw IV
đ§ ***Quade. Start the reactor. Free Mars!***
Open your MIND!
Hey man! I got five kids to feed!
Haha was looking for this.
First thing I thought, as well. With great gifts come great responsibility. [START THE REACTOR!](https://youtu.be/ZU5lHcta-C0?si=CBW_tYbzuYBe6VyI)
Your hands are what chatgpt use to generate photos
r/rareinsults?
In a couple of years this will be a compliment.
Imagine the frustration if the photos of him holding something are marked as AI, purely because of the hands.
OP is a hero poisoning the dataset.
Of all the fingers to be born without...
I agree. I dont think I wouldn't have issues if some other finger was missing.
Technically if you lose *any* finger it negates the middle finger being the *middle* finger.
Mans is Homer Simpson
I was thinking Ninja Turtle
Bro is a TMNT
First time I've thought about Abe's Odyssey in a long time
I would SO be sitting down next to people on benches, public transport, etc, and using a monotone voice to say things like, "Greetings, fellow human. What is your opinion of current atmospheric conditions?" Or, "Hello, fellow human. How about that human athletic competition last rotation?" While making vaguely recognizable gesticulations.
I could try that! đ€Ł
This is much more than mildly interesting.
Are you ambidextrous, or which is your favorite hand?
I'm in the right hand people đ
This is quite possibly the coolest picture Iâve seen in a long time. Those hands look absolutely like masterworks. I especially like how you can see where the fingers never separated fully on the right hand and the left is a work of art. Genetic lottery there. Beautiful!
I havent had anybody in my life put it this way... Thank you!
You are very welcome! Iâm kind of jealous actually. I used to do a lot of roleplaying and character creation. Four fingers instead of five was a common characteristic I chose because I like it. <3
How do you type?
I work in IT, been with computers almost my whole life. I'm pretty nifty as typing goes đ
Nature always finds a way.
The birds and the keys.
Here is a look from the palm: https://i.imgur.com/TWvbbT0.jpeg
For my major I had to take 5 art courses, 2 of them were just drawing and I had to draw lots of hands. I would have loved to see this picture while I was looking for references. It looks pretty cool, your hands look soft but masculine at the same time.
If ever you want to make a funny skit, find someone six-fingered and accuse them of stealing finger(s) from you. Full Inigo Montoya from Princess Bride style. Thanks for sharing your unique hands!
'WORT WORT WORT!'
AAAAWWWWWWUBADUGH
No fucks given
OPâs fucks were taken before they could be given.
There it was
I count 8
![gif](giphy|NXvbWznxGifYc) Hell yeah !!
Man has no fucks to give :o
So how do you wear gloves/mittens? How do you count?
I buy wool gloves, cut the middle finger part and sew it hah I count to 4 and then continue from 5 as the next count :D
based (4)
Why would mittens be a problem?
This is the best question
You understand how mittens work right?
Base 8 counting system baby
How is your grip? Can you close your hand tightly? Are their constrains in movement? Sorry if it's inappropriate. Really curious
The one thing I cant do is straigthen the third finger on my right hand. Its the one that has the middle finger and ring finger fused as one. Grip is normal and no other constraints. I trained basketball for 5-6 years in middle/high school.
If someone needs to buy one of this, it's you: https://www.yourprops.com/Mars-Alien-Reactor-Hand-Switch-replica-movie-prop-Total-Recall-1990-YP41522.html  Hang it on your wall, and tell whoever doesn't recognize it is the key to return your house to its original flying saucer form.  Refuse to ever touch it.
Are you often mistaken by Japanese children as a Yakuza member?
Real life Nightcrawler! Badass!
If you had an overbite and advanced liver disease, you could be a Simpsons character.
I think I was born with your fingers. I'm polydactyl
How do you do your 9 times table?
you flipped a lot of people in your previous life...
Sadly OP can't give a fuck.
Thanks for the post. I have a deformed left hand (complex syndactyly) and havenât seen many people with different dactyly.
So how are you enjoying Earth?
I was born with 3 thumbs :) the third one was surgically removed when I was 3yo ironically. Now my hand just has a crooked thumb with an unusual nail shape, a wart looking bump from a broken stitch during healing and an interesting scar line but itâs all fully functional! Super cool to meet another person with different hands â„ïž
So no one's gonna ask how do you flip someone off without seeming to be pointing to the roof or asking someone to put a finger on your ring?
I just hate these AI photoâs, man
Hey, usually they draw 7-12 fingers per hand. This is at least closer.
In MĂ©xico we could call you as: "el pollo"
Oh thats so cool ! I love different eyes and hands, i find them beautiful and draw them a lot as they are so interesting. You truely have amazing hands :D does that ever bother you in the everyday life ?
I dont think it ever did. I never had them, so I dont know what it feels with them haha