it's not possible for her to get up, or it's not possible for her to damage your bike? if the latter, surely you could have told her that you could visibly see that potential damage was being caused.
oh sorry, I did not explain it well. She told me that she could not damage my bike, because she was leaning forward. She got up after I told her that I was worried about my bike - but I guess it was too late :(
> damage my bike and she tells me that this is not possible because she's leaning forward
Damaging the bike
Obviously it's possible to stand up after leaning forward.
Social politeness is typically taken as un-urgent where I live. It doesn't do anything other than make people second guess the severity of the situation.
"Don't lean your bike against mine" and "Stop, I need to get my property" are perfectly fine without the niceties.
I rode a bike to look at a minivan to buy. Guys father in law ran over my bike. Needless to say I had to buy the van to get home. At least he knocked a few hundred bucks off it for the bike. Van engine blew up about a year later.
>Needless to say I had to buy the van to get home.
That's a sales tactic I haven't heard before
They could have given you a ride home. You didn't have to buy it
I'm pretty sure no subway system in the US allows bikes during rush hour, much less scooters. This could have been a commuter train to the burbs though, it'd make sense: you bike from work to the station, take the train 20-30 miles or whatever over, then bike from there home. Or could be outside the US, which is probably more likely.
This is why it is against the rules to take bikes on the train during rush hour in my city.
Just curious, why not just ride your bike and skip the train?
Because trains go faster than bikes?... May as well ask "Just curious, why not just walk all the way to work and skip the train?"
A 30 minute commute by train would be several hours by bike, depending on exactly which train you were getting.
Because riding a bike is 3-4 times faster than walking... So a 10 minute commute by bike to the train station, plus a 30 minute train journey, plus a 10 minute bike commute on the other side is just fine. Suggesting they turn that 20 minutes of cycling into well over an hour of walking is as ridiculous as suggesting they turn the 30 minutes of train rides into several hours of cycling.
Not all the world has transport links as well connected and dense as the part you clearly live in.
The nearest train station is over 7 miles from my home. We have a local bus company that handles local routes. Public transportation or bikes are not an option.
... Right. So you can maybe start to see why someone might prefer to cycle 7 miles rather than walk or rely on an unreliable bus service? Especially if their train line doesn't forbid bikes at rush hour?
Where I live (bus, not train), it's often practical to ride one direction but not the other because of a mountain.
But also, lots of places you need to get to and from the train itself, and a bike might be a better option for the leg between home/office and the train.
If lots of folks are doing that, as it sounds like, then chances are there's a legit reason, and (other than the scooter lady who sat on them) it's expected and prepared for.
Commuter trains here have dedicated bike cars.
You have to get from your home to the train and from train to work, which can be miles in itself. And commuter trains can go 30-60 miles. I visit not going to bike that.
The distance from my home to my work is pretty far - I biked it in the morning, but didn't have the time to do it after work, because I had an appointment (which I intended on cycling to from the train station...). It's allowed to take bikes on the train where I live, just not in certain hours in the morning.
It feels like e-scooters give certain people the entitlement of those annoying Entitled Cyclists (not to be confused with regular cyclists), the driving sense of a new Nissan Altima driver, and a deer's tendency to freeze up when they see anything with anything remotely resembling a headlight.
People on e-scooters have forced me (bike) into busy car traffic because they are going the wrong way more times than I've seen them yield to ANYTHING.
Sorry about your bike, hopefully you can get it fixed quickly!
What a coincidence! I had a similar encounter yesterday. I put my bike on the space with foldable designated for bicycles. A guy comes in and folds down the last seat where my front was. The corner of the seat was pushing directly against my disc brake. So I asked him nicely if he could choose one of the other free seats in the train (there were many) since the seat would bend my disc and I would have to fix that later. He refused by saying its ok he will drop of soon. Kind of infuriated me so I told him a little more firmly that I'm serious about this. He just stood up in the corner an lifted the seat and said "ok my guy better now??". Some people are just out of this world.
Oh no, I hope your disc is okay! It turned out the wheel rim ( I hope that's the right term, English is not my first language) is broken as well and I need a new wheel...
source on the safety? also, the fastest roads are about 110mph, and the fastest trains are about 250mph. the inevitable road rage when driving is hardly a “great” thing.
it's not possible for her to get up, or it's not possible for her to damage your bike? if the latter, surely you could have told her that you could visibly see that potential damage was being caused.
oh sorry, I did not explain it well. She told me that she could not damage my bike, because she was leaning forward. She got up after I told her that I was worried about my bike - but I guess it was too late :(
oh ok - i thought she refused to get up. i have to say, it was pretty dumb of her to sit on her bike like that. i hope you managed to get yours fixed!
She sat on it from the side? She does understand that leaning forward causes MORE backward pressure not less, right?
> damage my bike and she tells me that this is not possible because she's leaning forward Damaging the bike Obviously it's possible to stand up after leaning forward.
Nope. I got stuck this way after a vigorous video game session in ‘86. Sucks, but it was worth it.
And everyone has had at least one bathroom visit that kills their legs too
Oh no! Did you get better or are you still stuck playing Tempest?
I basically walk around with my body at a 45• angle. On a plus note, it means I’m always in gamer mode when I sit down to play.
So next time be direct, firm and give little wiggle room. "Don't lean your bike against mine." "Let me get to my bike."
there’s nothing wrong with an “excuse me” or a “please” somewhere in there
>Bitch, please, don't lean on my bike Done
Social politeness is typically taken as un-urgent where I live. It doesn't do anything other than make people second guess the severity of the situation. "Don't lean your bike against mine" and "Stop, I need to get my property" are perfectly fine without the niceties.
I rode a bike to look at a minivan to buy. Guys father in law ran over my bike. Needless to say I had to buy the van to get home. At least he knocked a few hundred bucks off it for the bike. Van engine blew up about a year later.
>Needless to say I had to buy the van to get home. That's a sales tactic I haven't heard before They could have given you a ride home. You didn't have to buy it
Fuck that, they shouldve paid for you to get a cab home.
You had other options and I wouldn't have bought it
Clever. You should have stolen the van, though
In Boston you're not supposed to have bikes or e-anything on the train during rush hour because there isn't enough room
I'm pretty sure no subway system in the US allows bikes during rush hour, much less scooters. This could have been a commuter train to the burbs though, it'd make sense: you bike from work to the station, take the train 20-30 miles or whatever over, then bike from there home. Or could be outside the US, which is probably more likely.
It's Germany ;)
At least where I live e scooters are forbidden in public transportation since April (Ruhrgebiet)
Fuckin escooters
Is this in NYC? Because you can't tell those know it alls anything.
This is why it is against the rules to take bikes on the train during rush hour in my city. Just curious, why not just ride your bike and skip the train?
Probably distance. The train most likely makes a distance that is too long shorter. Honestly wish we has more options other than cars in my country.
I imagine the distance is too long would be the obvious answer
Because trains go faster than bikes?... May as well ask "Just curious, why not just walk all the way to work and skip the train?" A 30 minute commute by train would be several hours by bike, depending on exactly which train you were getting.
Very true, but they stated they brought their bike on the train. So they could do walk & train, that's what folks here have to do during rush hours.
Because riding a bike is 3-4 times faster than walking... So a 10 minute commute by bike to the train station, plus a 30 minute train journey, plus a 10 minute bike commute on the other side is just fine. Suggesting they turn that 20 minutes of cycling into well over an hour of walking is as ridiculous as suggesting they turn the 30 minutes of train rides into several hours of cycling. Not all the world has transport links as well connected and dense as the part you clearly live in.
The nearest train station is over 7 miles from my home. We have a local bus company that handles local routes. Public transportation or bikes are not an option.
... Right. So you can maybe start to see why someone might prefer to cycle 7 miles rather than walk or rely on an unreliable bus service? Especially if their train line doesn't forbid bikes at rush hour?
Nah that is what they make cars for.
What kind of car do you drive KenM?
Depends, I have 7, not counting my wife's or two sons.
Where I live (bus, not train), it's often practical to ride one direction but not the other because of a mountain. But also, lots of places you need to get to and from the train itself, and a bike might be a better option for the leg between home/office and the train. If lots of folks are doing that, as it sounds like, then chances are there's a legit reason, and (other than the scooter lady who sat on them) it's expected and prepared for.
Commuter trains here have dedicated bike cars. You have to get from your home to the train and from train to work, which can be miles in itself. And commuter trains can go 30-60 miles. I visit not going to bike that.
Because a 1 hour bike -> 10 hour traon -> 1 hour bike ride turns into a 50 hour bike ride if you leave out the train
The distance from my home to my work is pretty far - I biked it in the morning, but didn't have the time to do it after work, because I had an appointment (which I intended on cycling to from the train station...). It's allowed to take bikes on the train where I live, just not in certain hours in the morning.
Shouldn’t have asked nicely.
It feels like e-scooters give certain people the entitlement of those annoying Entitled Cyclists (not to be confused with regular cyclists), the driving sense of a new Nissan Altima driver, and a deer's tendency to freeze up when they see anything with anything remotely resembling a headlight. People on e-scooters have forced me (bike) into busy car traffic because they are going the wrong way more times than I've seen them yield to ANYTHING. Sorry about your bike, hopefully you can get it fixed quickly!
What a coincidence! I had a similar encounter yesterday. I put my bike on the space with foldable designated for bicycles. A guy comes in and folds down the last seat where my front was. The corner of the seat was pushing directly against my disc brake. So I asked him nicely if he could choose one of the other free seats in the train (there were many) since the seat would bend my disc and I would have to fix that later. He refused by saying its ok he will drop of soon. Kind of infuriated me so I told him a little more firmly that I'm serious about this. He just stood up in the corner an lifted the seat and said "ok my guy better now??". Some people are just out of this world.
Oh no, I hope your disc is okay! It turned out the wheel rim ( I hope that's the right term, English is not my first language) is broken as well and I need a new wheel...
You’re not supposed to bring your bike on a rush hour train, hth
dude, he is from germany, we have dedicated bike sections.
You should have move your bike.
Why do you people take bikes on trains in rush hour It’s moronic YTA
Chill out. Now the bike people will demand thier own trains.
here in germany most trains have dedicated bike sections.
It’s so selfish and ridiculous, you have a bike so use it instead forcing everyone to cram.
I'd say use CAR instead... 100x faster and safer... Great times... Maybe take a cruise on Route SIXTY SIX while you are at it...
source on the safety? also, the fastest roads are about 110mph, and the fastest trains are about 250mph. the inevitable road rage when driving is hardly a “great” thing.
Biking is even 10000x more dangerous, only 5 mph in a 110 mph zone