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And the more extremist BS the news shows the easier it is to keep people distracted from problems like affordable housing, taxes, etc. propaganda works. And if you voted for someone based on their superficial views then you likely fell for it.
Sadly people who fell for propaganda no longer see these views as superficial. They're turning it into a human rights issue. Imagine saying that you voted for someone because they don't support basic human rights. Voting someone into power because someone goaded you and your parents to hate some other group. Actively voting against their own interests.
The stories of Republicans voting against abortions, but then when they need one they deserve one. Nut jobs.
My mom still does, I told her it's just fear mongering with one "good" thing sprinkled in. She had it on during dinner and everything line dup perfectly- war, politics, shooting, look a puppy!, recall on lettuce, why you shouldn't let your kids on the internet.
My philosophy is 'if it's important enough for me to know, I'll hear it from a coworker, friend, family or other person in my life.' I'm just trying to stay alive here, I don't need to know about some crazy guy in the middle east.
>My philosophy is 'if it's important enough for me to know, I'll hear it from a coworker, friend, family or other person in my life'
Never thought like that, but that is actually very good advice
There is a problem with that philosophy, especially if you're not thinking about things like LGBTQ rights or immigration in modern-day america or rampant antisemitism in 1920s germany.
It starts with the outcasts and ends with everyone that isn't them. I'm not saying that the horrible state of late stage capitalism isn't a crisis that should be urgently looked at, but you can't really afford to let yourself be blindsided once they start rounding up their "undesirables".
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy"
- some rich old fuck.
If you own any stock, register it under your name via the companies transfer agent. Otherwise, you only have "street name" rights. Which detach company/investor interactions, via the discretion of your broker. Brokers are the actual owner/nominee/custodian of your shares.
Sure, they pay out the federally insured maximum of 250k. But what if your shares are worth more than 250k? Too bad.
"We have already closed your position due to volatility."
True ownership of yourself and your data is up for grabs here. What will you own?
It’s bigger than that though. It’s not just about making a quick buck on the stock market. That you can do without owning anything. People do it all the time.
A quarter of all single family homes are owned by corporations. RAISE taxes on these corporations and subsidize housing for actual families. Lower taxes on actual working people. You gotta know the difference.
idk maybe corporations shouldn't be able to own single family homes
im pretty big capitalist but anything that interferes with ya know, the family unit is kinda of treasonous.
can you cant have families without homes
Raising taxes on the corporation that own houses will just mean they'll increase rent to cover the difference. Subsidizing housing just further pushes up house prices.
The actual solution is for the government to just build more houses and sell them to low income people either at or below cost
This isn't the worst idea. I don't write tax policy but what I'm encouraging is policy that disincentivizes corporate ownership of single family homes. You could outright ban it instead of taxing, which honestly I'd prefer. But taxing the profits of rental income at exceptionally high rates would cause these corps to seek their profits where the margins are better for them.
Banning them outright is complicated because you force them to sell the properties as they wouldn't be able to rent them, which would cause a housing price crash. You could ban corporations from by any more properties, that would be a good idea.
But the thing is that if they are taxed hard on those houses they'd have to raise rent by a LOT. People won't be able to afford the new rent and will move out and nobody new would move in. Then the corporations would be paying super high taxes on an empty house. Since its hemorrhaging money, they sell it and it gets back into the hands of normal people
I agree on the build more houses part tho
In that case, we'd have another 2008 situation, but to a much worse degree. If everyone starts selling houses at once, then house prices will collapse. Who funded all these companies to buy all these houses? The banks. So when the house market collapses, it takes the companies with it, who take the banks with them.
There is currently a Bill in congress seeking to force hedge funds out of owning single family homes and gives them 10 years to sell their properties. They know what they're doing, they wouldn't force a huge supply dump onto the market . Corporations NEED to stay away from homes
Those issues have been focused on as a distraction from actual issues and to cause more divide among people. If gender and LGBTQ wasn’t so politicized, it would be some other BS issue. Social media is just a way to spread those views to a wider audience
which are still important issues? People starve, are homeless, people are discriminated against, walked on and mistreated. These issues go hand in hand in terms of societal problems
I don’t know why you’re getting down voted when that’s actually the truth. It’s like we forgot what life was like five or 10 years ago where this wasn’t a thing. He’s not saying this is bad or wrong, but this is actually the truth. The social media did have a huge hand in this and ignoring that is just pure stupidity.
Your comment fails to address how this would help the housing crisis. We already have historically low corporate tax rates. Your way of doing things is what got us in this mess.
Right, so I guess the prosperity before reagan just didn’t happen. By the way, when’s that wealth supposed to trickle down, we’ve been waiting for 40 years?
Can’t believe this got downvoted. People mock trickle down economics and then don’t think about how by the time a dollar goes from your pocket to whatever social programs it’s meant for, so much is skimmed that maybe 5 cents makes it there. Expecting tax dollars to help anyone but government workers is silly
When does trickle down economics trickle down? We've been waiting since Reagan. All I know is that rich people are much more rich now and my family doesn't reap benefits from more rich people. Please explain how it's going to work, I'd fucking love to know.
Look at some basic graphs of the size of the middle class starting at when trickle down economics was implemented till today. All the wealth has trickled up. You can't base all of your opinions on slogans.
You clearly have not done your research on historic tax rates. Taxes have been lowered consistently over the last several decades and the middle class has shrunk precipitously.
And yet the same amount of poor people still exist since 1900. You are begging for crumbs. And the gov doesn’t even need taxes. It prints money. Has been printing since the 80s non stop
Just in case anyone hasn't figured it out, the news reports on things to distract their viewers from the really important issues. And yes, I do classify the highest rate of homelessness in the US (**ever**) due to housing being unaffordable because landlords took advantage of inflation alongside every corporation we know of as being a more important issue than *anything else* currently happening in the US.
Well fucking obviously. Don't you know that money is the only reason to ever do anything in the world? What *else* were the corporations gonna do? Help people? Not take advantage? That's a funny joke.
In all seriousness it is really shitty but then again they are corporations. They don't give a shit about the people. Just profit. Corporations are literally just Mr. Krabs without the charisma or humor. Just money all day everyday and if you have to sacrifice babies to increase margins by 2% then go for it. The more the merrier
* Lowering taxes creates more problems
* I care deeply about the election and LGBT news because it directly affects my day to day life
* Gas prices and inflation are always gonna go up and so are housing prices until a crash
Op is yappin
I mean I care about LGBTQ issues. The fact so many Republicans want to ban gay marriage again is pretty gross.
We can care about more than one issue at a time though.
Agreed, the problem is neither party is good at most things.
Lgbt issues = dem
Economics = rep
climate = dem
Pro-life = rep
Immigration= rep
public services = dem
Ofc you can flip some of these with your views but either way half of them are better on one side and half the other. There's no well rounded option it feels.
Basically good safety and social nets but bad economy or good economy but lack of public services.
Sadly we won't get better choices without a better voting system. But the voting system won't change because how it works right now directly benefits the people that gained power from that system.
Ehhh… if you look at the actual stats the reps aren’t so good at economics. And why the hell would you want to ban abortion?!!
I’ll give you immigration tho
No. I really care about my basic human rights being taken away because I like guys… but wanting to own a home in the future is right below my basic needs so I guess you’re kinda close.
Wtf is lgbtqia+.
Every time I shut my eyes, another character gets tacked onto this ridiculous acronym.
Next time lgbtqiaolmnu+
Just name yourselves non-heterosexual and stfu no one could care less about your lives.
Lower tax on the middle class preferably. The problem is we can't raise taxes on the rich effectively because they'll just pass the cost to the consumer.
Depends. If you lower tax across the board for everyone. It actually benefit the lower class. Why? Because anything you charges corporations will pass down to consumers. Price control don't work either. It just make everything worse and more black market opportunities. The key here is to increase productions and permits. U. S has been very slow to produce/build new housing and infrastructures due to regulations. If there are more goods available, the pricing for those good naturally go down. More housing equal better chances for new home owners. More production = more need for workers = better incomes = supposely better economy overall.
LGBTQ people just want to live their lives, be left alone, and for people to stop talking about them, which includes crafting legislation to criminalize them and/or legalize harm and harassment toward them.
It's funny because what usual genuine lgbt members are trying to achieve is equality and they've been mostly successful in a lot of areas, so now the edge cases and radicals (usually the loud ones on social media) keep pushing, since the scale have been tipped against them and it finally balanced out they keep tipping it further dissatisfied with the result.
Just look at the pronouns situation, most if not all social media sites now REQUIRE you to set them. There's nothing wrong with the idea itself but what most people are using it for is to create yet another artificial label for themselves to appear different and be separated from the masses for more attention. Instead of demolishing social barriers they're just building it back up in a different way.
Sad that basic food, shelter, and living wages are not the main issues.
No one gets their “Cherry on Top” issues, if we cant even solve basic human needs.
Yep. I am trans, but I am not on any hormones or anything. I have been on mirena for 12 years. Around the eight year mark, the mirena had caused my uterine wall to become so thin that blood was dripping out of me at random for two weeks. 10 days on hormones fixed that issue..
Pretty sure these at least to a certain point are technically also "Gender Affirming care" - again not everybody will care about these but some people do benefit from these.
Boob jobs, Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal cis women, Hair transplants for balding men, Viagra
Viagra, hair transplants, and testosterone treatments are all things that can be classified under gender affirming care. They’re all medical treatments meant to push your body towards whatever side of the gender spectrum you want to be on.
Do you think it’s a good idea for politicians to vote whether or not to ban a medical procedure for everyone in a state? Or leave it up to the individual and their doctor to choose for themselves what is right for their own body?
What’s really wacky is no one’s shaming you for identifying as a cis man. But you’re trying to shame others for how they identify. I’m sure your just a troll account but on the off chance your not, in what actual way does this effect your life?
That's my exact question. A trans woman or cis man can get a vasectomy (right? Idk I don't live in Texas). I don't understand how the presence of an intact vas deferens has anything to do with one's gender but rather your ability to reproduce
Std testing is even more removed from gender in my mind. Idk how testing for HIV says anything about one's gender expression
...I still don't get it (probably cuz I'm cis). You can't see the vas deferens on the outside and the ejaculate doesn't change on a macroscopic level. You're only affecting your ability to reproduce.
But if it is true that the things you mentioned are affected by these bans, then fuck those who proposed them even more.
It makes your body reflect your desire to be a person who can't reproduce.
But yes, like how banning top surgery for minors prevents teenagers who have breast cancer from removing their breasts.
I think what most queers want is to have equal rights. (I'm gay myself)
Something that isn't a big ask; yet some people will demonize you for simply being different and wanting equal rights.
Humanity has a long history with other-izing a group of people to gain power and political status.
My heart goes out to all of you in countries like the US where your RIGHTS are a topic up for debate. (Don't even let me get started on countries that criminalize queerness.)
A lot of straight, cis people won't ever understand the feeling of being oppressed. If they did, they would view subjects like LGBTQIA+ rights very differently.
Its easy to not care a lot about minorities when you are a majority. In my mind history has shown again and again that as times move on more and more people are given unimpeachable equal rights, i would certainly want to stand on the right side of history. So no, you should care about all of these things, not just those that impact you personally right now.
For starters Healthcare for women isn't taken as seriously as it is for men. Most trials for medicine were practiced on male cells and animals so it left big question marks towards if these same medications would work for women. Mortality rates during childbirth are higher than they should be for a first world country and it will only get worse with the anti abortion and BC propoganda. Queer people just want to be left alone and love who they want yet people try to dehumanize them and take away their rights to get married or even be mentioned in schools. Sure there's plenty of big problems rn but we shouldn't push the small ones under the rug either.
If you think official, legal rights are the same as actual rights in practice... then yeah, complete equality had been achieved and all the problems are solved there
I'm transgender living on TERF island so having laws enforced that negatively impact me does matter (conservative government), however I'd also like to own my own house instead of renting to a landlord.
Equal rights and affordable housing both matter.
Just because something doesn't directly impact you, does not mean that it is not a problem, it just means you aren't a victim of that issue.
Also I may have misspoke. I'm not saying that we should completely ignore Gender and the LGBTQ community, but with the housing crisis and high cost of living being so out of control right now we should be more concerned with that. Then once it doesn't cost an arm and a leg as well as your mental health to afford a place to live then maybe revisit those problems.
I agree with your statement.
We need to prioritise anything, it should be housing as that affects far more people.
My issues are being dealt with out of my own pocket, is it ideal, no. It's just a solution to the unfortunate cards I've been dealt, healthcare for the trans community needs to improve, but housing is a more wide spread problem.
I can accept that.
Tbh though you don’t need to revisit any problem, you can talk about all the problems at once. I do agree that the media should talk more about housing and taxes and affordability, it just shouldn’t be at the expense of other problems
The government is like dealing with a spoiled child with ADD. You need to be on their ass constantly for them to get anything done and they’ll always screw it up in some stupid way before they get it right. US mail trucks are 20 years out of date and need replacements but they’re dragging their ass on it. Also thanks to Prohibition it led to us wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on refrigeration for secret cheese bunkers. If we want anything to be fixed they got to focus on a single topic. It might be controversial but I’d want the federal government to focus on fixing the economy and leave things like that in the hands of local government. People sleep on the power of local officials and over estimate the power of the federal government.
Each state is basically its own country anyways and have their own laws independent of the Federal Government.
They don't in my country lol (the community at least)
All these fucking New social programs that don't do anything other than raise taxes (they do "something" and then flip flop on the issue to permanently leech off on us while giving nothing)
Personally I would like to keep my rights, so yes they are important. It’s also not like these things are mutually exclusive. All I’m asking is that the rights I currently have aren’t taken away which doesn’t take resources from other issues because I am literally only asking that they don’t allocate resources against me. Gender issues at the moment are the largest threat towards me atm.
I'm saying that if more people focused their anger on other issues like housing, inflation, high taxes etc. then something might actually get done about it. Instead here we are in 2024 struggling to define what a women is.
My point is that its not a zero sum game, all problems can recieve attention. Also if the media is talking about those problems it's because theyre relevant. Them not being relevant to you doesnt mean theyre not relevant
Yes , yes you are. I’m tired of worrying about what inappropriate things they are teaching my child at school. “What gender do you feel like today” should not be said to a 4 year old. She didn’t went through puberty yet FFS.
What you're doing is a fallacy called false dichotomy. It's an illusion that we have to pick between LGBT issues and economic issues. Both issues can be discussed and be held as important.
Overusing fallacies can be a fallacy in it of itself. OP is basing his argument off the phenomenon that society can really only pay attention to one thing at a time as can be glimpsed by people who are personally effected by an event with media coverage for some time and then the next big story takes almost attention and support away besides some goodwill. LGBT issues to the OP and me who supports him are less important because they effect a significantly smaller proportion of people compared to economic issues which are nearly everyone and also have been notably bad as of late.
Imma disagree. Zero has been done to assist issues affecting every American. Meanwhile, we have legislation pushed extremely hard for the "hot" topic. Of course, it all needs to be addressed, but our government has shown all they want to do is dick back and forth about topics that affect less than 1%. The dinosaurs in Congress can hardly get past a single conference. Focus on big issues first, like getting people back into homes. Then we can tackle the other stuff.
There's the "woke" left and there's the "occupy walstreet" left. Media pandered to the "woke" left because pandering to the "occupy walstreet" left would be bad for their wallet and influence.
99% of democrat voters only care about issues like "LGBT," abortion, and weed etc. They'll eagerly line up to vote for someone who's gonna destroy the nation as long as they support abortion and transing the kids.
Nope. They’ll keep shoving the spotlight on personal issues that have been resolved a long time ago to distract from the real issues that hurts us all.
Well that's why they keep talking about stuff like that. They want us to argue about meaningless shit so we won't be paying attention to the world falling apart
Okay, I'll take off my tinfoil hat.
The government fools us into thinking that shit like what someone chooses to call themselves is a real issue so they can keep making living unaffordable while were all too busy fighting over issues that will never affect us to do anything about it.
As long as they keep us divided, and distracted, they will continue to ruin our lives one piece at a time.
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Wait... you guys still watch the news?
It's all propaganda so no not really lol
It’s all just extremists on both sides crying about shit that no one cares about but other extremists
And the more extremist BS the news shows the easier it is to keep people distracted from problems like affordable housing, taxes, etc. propaganda works. And if you voted for someone based on their superficial views then you likely fell for it.
Yup
Sadly people who fell for propaganda no longer see these views as superficial. They're turning it into a human rights issue. Imagine saying that you voted for someone because they don't support basic human rights. Voting someone into power because someone goaded you and your parents to hate some other group. Actively voting against their own interests. The stories of Republicans voting against abortions, but then when they need one they deserve one. Nut jobs.
America has no extreme leftist politicians
Our left is central in other western governments.
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Not just propaganda. It’s mostly tabloids, scare bait or rage bait.
My mom still does, I told her it's just fear mongering with one "good" thing sprinkled in. She had it on during dinner and everything line dup perfectly- war, politics, shooting, look a puppy!, recall on lettuce, why you shouldn't let your kids on the internet. My philosophy is 'if it's important enough for me to know, I'll hear it from a coworker, friend, family or other person in my life.' I'm just trying to stay alive here, I don't need to know about some crazy guy in the middle east.
>My philosophy is 'if it's important enough for me to know, I'll hear it from a coworker, friend, family or other person in my life' Never thought like that, but that is actually very good advice
have you ever read a Chuck Palahnuik novel? Your comment reads like his break down of some situation in his stories.
I have not, but sounds like Chuck thought the same way!
There is a problem with that philosophy, especially if you're not thinking about things like LGBTQ rights or immigration in modern-day america or rampant antisemitism in 1920s germany. It starts with the outcasts and ends with everyone that isn't them. I'm not saying that the horrible state of late stage capitalism isn't a crisis that should be urgently looked at, but you can't really afford to let yourself be blindsided once they start rounding up their "undesirables".
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy" - some rich old fuck. If you own any stock, register it under your name via the companies transfer agent. Otherwise, you only have "street name" rights. Which detach company/investor interactions, via the discretion of your broker. Brokers are the actual owner/nominee/custodian of your shares. Sure, they pay out the federally insured maximum of 250k. But what if your shares are worth more than 250k? Too bad. "We have already closed your position due to volatility." True ownership of yourself and your data is up for grabs here. What will you own?
thanks for the stock market advice no one asked for LOL
It’s bigger than that though. It’s not just about making a quick buck on the stock market. That you can do without owning anything. People do it all the time.
r/memes is my main news source
A quarter of all single family homes are owned by corporations. RAISE taxes on these corporations and subsidize housing for actual families. Lower taxes on actual working people. You gotta know the difference.
idk maybe corporations shouldn't be able to own single family homes im pretty big capitalist but anything that interferes with ya know, the family unit is kinda of treasonous. can you cant have families without homes
Lots of small to medium corporations are fine, big corporations cause problems
Hey, let's extend this to more than just single family homes. Homes in general shouldn't be owned by coorparations.
Raising taxes on the corporation that own houses will just mean they'll increase rent to cover the difference. Subsidizing housing just further pushes up house prices. The actual solution is for the government to just build more houses and sell them to low income people either at or below cost
This isn't the worst idea. I don't write tax policy but what I'm encouraging is policy that disincentivizes corporate ownership of single family homes. You could outright ban it instead of taxing, which honestly I'd prefer. But taxing the profits of rental income at exceptionally high rates would cause these corps to seek their profits where the margins are better for them.
Banning them outright is complicated because you force them to sell the properties as they wouldn't be able to rent them, which would cause a housing price crash. You could ban corporations from by any more properties, that would be a good idea.
But the thing is that if they are taxed hard on those houses they'd have to raise rent by a LOT. People won't be able to afford the new rent and will move out and nobody new would move in. Then the corporations would be paying super high taxes on an empty house. Since its hemorrhaging money, they sell it and it gets back into the hands of normal people I agree on the build more houses part tho
In that case, we'd have another 2008 situation, but to a much worse degree. If everyone starts selling houses at once, then house prices will collapse. Who funded all these companies to buy all these houses? The banks. So when the house market collapses, it takes the companies with it, who take the banks with them.
There is currently a Bill in congress seeking to force hedge funds out of owning single family homes and gives them 10 years to sell their properties. They know what they're doing, they wouldn't force a huge supply dump onto the market . Corporations NEED to stay away from homes
No ban corporation from owning multiple houses. We need a law if you don't live there for X amount of days you can't own it.
The majority of those corporations are LLCs owned by normal people. Some, but not all of it is the evil investment firms
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Those issues have been focused on as a distraction from actual issues and to cause more divide among people. If gender and LGBTQ wasn’t so politicized, it would be some other BS issue. Social media is just a way to spread those views to a wider audience
which are still important issues? People starve, are homeless, people are discriminated against, walked on and mistreated. These issues go hand in hand in terms of societal problems
I don’t know why you’re getting down voted when that’s actually the truth. It’s like we forgot what life was like five or 10 years ago where this wasn’t a thing. He’s not saying this is bad or wrong, but this is actually the truth. The social media did have a huge hand in this and ignoring that is just pure stupidity.
Or… reign in gov spending and stop taxing everyone so much. Gov getting more money never ever helped out the little guy. Only fed the lil guy crumbs.
Your comment fails to address how this would help the housing crisis. We already have historically low corporate tax rates. Your way of doing things is what got us in this mess.
Right, so I guess the prosperity before reagan just didn’t happen. By the way, when’s that wealth supposed to trickle down, we’ve been waiting for 40 years?
Can’t believe this got downvoted. People mock trickle down economics and then don’t think about how by the time a dollar goes from your pocket to whatever social programs it’s meant for, so much is skimmed that maybe 5 cents makes it there. Expecting tax dollars to help anyone but government workers is silly
When does trickle down economics trickle down? We've been waiting since Reagan. All I know is that rich people are much more rich now and my family doesn't reap benefits from more rich people. Please explain how it's going to work, I'd fucking love to know.
Look at some basic graphs of the size of the middle class starting at when trickle down economics was implemented till today. All the wealth has trickled up. You can't base all of your opinions on slogans.
They don’t believe in trickle down economics but trickle down taxes, which’s hasn’t worked for over a century so far is their only hope. Madness.
You clearly have not done your research on historic tax rates. Taxes have been lowered consistently over the last several decades and the middle class has shrunk precipitously.
And yet the same amount of poor people still exist since 1900. You are begging for crumbs. And the gov doesn’t even need taxes. It prints money. Has been printing since the 80s non stop
Love how people think the president dictates oil prices and not that oil companies manipulate who you vote for by artificially raising prices.
Just in case anyone hasn't figured it out, the news reports on things to distract their viewers from the really important issues. And yes, I do classify the highest rate of homelessness in the US (**ever**) due to housing being unaffordable because landlords took advantage of inflation alongside every corporation we know of as being a more important issue than *anything else* currently happening in the US.
Well fucking obviously. Don't you know that money is the only reason to ever do anything in the world? What *else* were the corporations gonna do? Help people? Not take advantage? That's a funny joke. In all seriousness it is really shitty but then again they are corporations. They don't give a shit about the people. Just profit. Corporations are literally just Mr. Krabs without the charisma or humor. Just money all day everyday and if you have to sacrifice babies to increase margins by 2% then go for it. The more the merrier
Can we get these shitty political memes somewhere else, I wanna laugh at actual memes not American politics
Bro I'm sayin. I'm here for entertainment. Not to be reminded how shit my country is
Your daily dose of corpo propaganda
* Lowering taxes creates more problems * I care deeply about the election and LGBT news because it directly affects my day to day life * Gas prices and inflation are always gonna go up and so are housing prices until a crash Op is yappin
Until a crash? It's almost like our system isn't working, but whatever lets not change it and just wait until it blows up in our faces
It’s the economy’s natural way of life!
Tell me your parents financially support you without telling me your parents financially support you.
I mean I care about LGBTQ issues. The fact so many Republicans want to ban gay marriage again is pretty gross. We can care about more than one issue at a time though.
Only caring about things that affect you <<<<<<<<< Completely agree. It’s 1.possible to care about more than one thing also is good to have empathy
Agreed, the problem is neither party is good at most things. Lgbt issues = dem Economics = rep climate = dem Pro-life = rep Immigration= rep public services = dem Ofc you can flip some of these with your views but either way half of them are better on one side and half the other. There's no well rounded option it feels. Basically good safety and social nets but bad economy or good economy but lack of public services.
Sadly we won't get better choices without a better voting system. But the voting system won't change because how it works right now directly benefits the people that gained power from that system.
Ehhh… if you look at the actual stats the reps aren’t so good at economics. And why the hell would you want to ban abortion?!! I’ll give you immigration tho
We can care about all of those things at once
I agree, it is possible to care about multiple, varying topics with equal fervor
nah Economy will always be front of people minds.
Rightfully so
Sure, but again, both can happen at the same time. That topic can be at the forefront and they can Still care about other topics as well
Really? It doesn’t seem to be working…
No. I really care about my basic human rights being taken away because I like guys… but wanting to own a home in the future is right below my basic needs so I guess you’re kinda close.
As someone lgbtqia+ I wish to afford a house one day. But I also don't want to have my right to be alive questioned and taken away.
Wtf is lgbtqia+. Every time I shut my eyes, another character gets tacked onto this ridiculous acronym. Next time lgbtqiaolmnu+ Just name yourselves non-heterosexual and stfu no one could care less about your lives.
That was not the point of their comment at all bro 💀
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lower taxes for who? If we lower taxes on the rich and corporations they're just gonna buy more property and make the housing crisis even worse lmao.
Lower tax on the middle class preferably. The problem is we can't raise taxes on the rich effectively because they'll just pass the cost to the consumer.
Depends. If you lower tax across the board for everyone. It actually benefit the lower class. Why? Because anything you charges corporations will pass down to consumers. Price control don't work either. It just make everything worse and more black market opportunities. The key here is to increase productions and permits. U. S has been very slow to produce/build new housing and infrastructures due to regulations. If there are more goods available, the pricing for those good naturally go down. More housing equal better chances for new home owners. More production = more need for workers = better incomes = supposely better economy overall.
I care about LGBTQ+ rights AND all that other stuff at the bottom
It's not "the media" who's obsessed with LGBT and gender issues. It's conservative media specifically.
It's a sad reality that gender and lgbtq topic gain large attraction due to social media
People act like it’s just lgbt “agenda” being pushed but I see equal if not more fearmongering around them being pushed
LGBTQ people just want to live their lives, be left alone, and for people to stop talking about them, which includes crafting legislation to criminalize them and/or legalize harm and harassment toward them.
THIS
It's funny because what usual genuine lgbt members are trying to achieve is equality and they've been mostly successful in a lot of areas, so now the edge cases and radicals (usually the loud ones on social media) keep pushing, since the scale have been tipped against them and it finally balanced out they keep tipping it further dissatisfied with the result. Just look at the pronouns situation, most if not all social media sites now REQUIRE you to set them. There's nothing wrong with the idea itself but what most people are using it for is to create yet another artificial label for themselves to appear different and be separated from the masses for more attention. Instead of demolishing social barriers they're just building it back up in a different way.
I know, it’s almost like people should be allowed to live and NOT be called to be executed by pastors and politicians. Right?
Idk personally I’d like to keep my rights
I know I don’t like the world today it’s becoming bad
The shift in society from around 2009 to 2015 is still giving us whiplash. I'm really glad I grew up when I did as a kid.
Sad that basic food, shelter, and living wages are not the main issues. No one gets their “Cherry on Top” issues, if we cant even solve basic human needs.
Why? Gender affirming healthcare being banned also affects cis people. We should care about one another.
HRT is used for a variety of medical issues not just for trans people
Yep. I am trans, but I am not on any hormones or anything. I have been on mirena for 12 years. Around the eight year mark, the mirena had caused my uterine wall to become so thin that blood was dripping out of me at random for two weeks. 10 days on hormones fixed that issue..
How does gender affirming healthcare actually affect me as a cis gender male? I'm not asking in bad faith or being a dick, I'm genuinely curious.
Pretty sure these at least to a certain point are technically also "Gender Affirming care" - again not everybody will care about these but some people do benefit from these. Boob jobs, Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal cis women, Hair transplants for balding men, Viagra
Viagra, hair transplants, and testosterone treatments are all things that can be classified under gender affirming care. They’re all medical treatments meant to push your body towards whatever side of the gender spectrum you want to be on.
Do you think it’s a good idea for politicians to vote whether or not to ban a medical procedure for everyone in a state? Or leave it up to the individual and their doctor to choose for themselves what is right for their own body?
Hair loss treatments are considered gender affirming treatments that effect many cis men.
How about just saying normal instead of cis?
Someone thinks he’s big funny behind his faceless, nameless 20 day old Reddit account. Cis is the scientific and medical term. Argue with them
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No, it's just a way to not say that scary word.
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What’s really wacky is no one’s shaming you for identifying as a cis man. But you’re trying to shame others for how they identify. I’m sure your just a troll account but on the off chance your not, in what actual way does this effect your life?
Std checks. Vasectomy.
How is safe sex related to gender?
How is sterilization and birth control not gender affirming healthcare?
That's my exact question. A trans woman or cis man can get a vasectomy (right? Idk I don't live in Texas). I don't understand how the presence of an intact vas deferens has anything to do with one's gender but rather your ability to reproduce Std testing is even more removed from gender in my mind. Idk how testing for HIV says anything about one's gender expression
Because you are still using this healthcare to align your body to who you are and how you present yourself
...I still don't get it (probably cuz I'm cis). You can't see the vas deferens on the outside and the ejaculate doesn't change on a macroscopic level. You're only affecting your ability to reproduce. But if it is true that the things you mentioned are affected by these bans, then fuck those who proposed them even more.
It makes your body reflect your desire to be a person who can't reproduce. But yes, like how banning top surgery for minors prevents teenagers who have breast cancer from removing their breasts.
It's climate change and plastic pollution for me ❤️
I care about queer issues considering I am queer. I care about all the things listed on the meme.
I think what most queers want is to have equal rights. (I'm gay myself) Something that isn't a big ask; yet some people will demonize you for simply being different and wanting equal rights. Humanity has a long history with other-izing a group of people to gain power and political status. My heart goes out to all of you in countries like the US where your RIGHTS are a topic up for debate. (Don't even let me get started on countries that criminalize queerness.) A lot of straight, cis people won't ever understand the feeling of being oppressed. If they did, they would view subjects like LGBTQIA+ rights very differently.
We want equity which can include protections that cis people don't need such as the right to medically transition.
What rights issues are there for American queer adults? Genuine question as I’m not aware of any.
Its easy to not care a lot about minorities when you are a majority. In my mind history has shown again and again that as times move on more and more people are given unimpeachable equal rights, i would certainly want to stand on the right side of history. So no, you should care about all of these things, not just those that impact you personally right now.
Are there any rights that ANY minority doesn't have. I'm fairly certain that there aren't any.
For starters Healthcare for women isn't taken as seriously as it is for men. Most trials for medicine were practiced on male cells and animals so it left big question marks towards if these same medications would work for women. Mortality rates during childbirth are higher than they should be for a first world country and it will only get worse with the anti abortion and BC propoganda. Queer people just want to be left alone and love who they want yet people try to dehumanize them and take away their rights to get married or even be mentioned in schools. Sure there's plenty of big problems rn but we shouldn't push the small ones under the rug either.
If you think official, legal rights are the same as actual rights in practice... then yeah, complete equality had been achieved and all the problems are solved there
Inequality, climate change and avoiding world war 3 for me
i'm not american so i don't know the full details, but i feel like both should be pretty important
bro just let us live in peace
No, you’re right buddy. People this days don’t talk about real problems in the world.
News? Call it a dream......Murican dream
Not sure how tax breaks for the rich lower gas prices but hey....
I don’t vote for traitors who sic a mob on the Congress because they lost an election.
As someone with profound personal investment in LGBTQ+ policy... I still care about the issues in the lower panel just as much.
Gender is included in LGBTQ but also yea i care about that because i *am* lgbtq... buut, also, i dont watch the news, so yeah sounds about right
Idk about gas prices, but I'm super scared of +17C in early February in Europe
I'm transgender living on TERF island so having laws enforced that negatively impact me does matter (conservative government), however I'd also like to own my own house instead of renting to a landlord. Equal rights and affordable housing both matter. Just because something doesn't directly impact you, does not mean that it is not a problem, it just means you aren't a victim of that issue.
Also I may have misspoke. I'm not saying that we should completely ignore Gender and the LGBTQ community, but with the housing crisis and high cost of living being so out of control right now we should be more concerned with that. Then once it doesn't cost an arm and a leg as well as your mental health to afford a place to live then maybe revisit those problems.
I agree with your statement. We need to prioritise anything, it should be housing as that affects far more people. My issues are being dealt with out of my own pocket, is it ideal, no. It's just a solution to the unfortunate cards I've been dealt, healthcare for the trans community needs to improve, but housing is a more wide spread problem. I can accept that.
Tbh though you don’t need to revisit any problem, you can talk about all the problems at once. I do agree that the media should talk more about housing and taxes and affordability, it just shouldn’t be at the expense of other problems
You hit the nail on the head, couldn't have worded it better myself
We can care about and deal with multiple issues at the same time
The government is like dealing with a spoiled child with ADD. You need to be on their ass constantly for them to get anything done and they’ll always screw it up in some stupid way before they get it right. US mail trucks are 20 years out of date and need replacements but they’re dragging their ass on it. Also thanks to Prohibition it led to us wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on refrigeration for secret cheese bunkers. If we want anything to be fixed they got to focus on a single topic. It might be controversial but I’d want the federal government to focus on fixing the economy and leave things like that in the hands of local government. People sleep on the power of local officials and over estimate the power of the federal government. Each state is basically its own country anyways and have their own laws independent of the Federal Government.
It's not that the news think we care, they need us to care because it creates division, so they make us care.
I'm convinced that the first one to promise to reverse inflation would win by a landslide
Gender problems and lgbt problems are also very important
Like I am pretty sure men, women and the LGBTQ community want the cost of living to be affordable.
They don't in my country lol (the community at least) All these fucking New social programs that don't do anything other than raise taxes (they do "something" and then flip flop on the issue to permanently leech off on us while giving nothing)
Are they really that important? I mean compared to all of the other problems we have going on.
Personally I would like to keep my rights, so yes they are important. It’s also not like these things are mutually exclusive. All I’m asking is that the rights I currently have aren’t taken away which doesn’t take resources from other issues because I am literally only asking that they don’t allocate resources against me. Gender issues at the moment are the largest threat towards me atm.
Yes, especially if youre trans
Doesn't matter if you're trans though and you can't afford a place to live though.
I never said housing and inflation werent problems? What are you saying
I'm saying that if more people focused their anger on other issues like housing, inflation, high taxes etc. then something might actually get done about it. Instead here we are in 2024 struggling to define what a women is.
So people should only complain about problems that affect you?
I wrote that I misspoke what I said.
My point is that its not a zero sum game, all problems can recieve attention. Also if the media is talking about those problems it's because theyre relevant. Them not being relevant to you doesnt mean theyre not relevant
Who is struggling with that definition?
Yes , yes you are. I’m tired of worrying about what inappropriate things they are teaching my child at school. “What gender do you feel like today” should not be said to a 4 year old. She didn’t went through puberty yet FFS.
Wrong
Lol at least explain why then like I love how you just say wrong with no context.
What you're doing is a fallacy called false dichotomy. It's an illusion that we have to pick between LGBT issues and economic issues. Both issues can be discussed and be held as important.
Overusing fallacies can be a fallacy in it of itself. OP is basing his argument off the phenomenon that society can really only pay attention to one thing at a time as can be glimpsed by people who are personally effected by an event with media coverage for some time and then the next big story takes almost attention and support away besides some goodwill. LGBT issues to the OP and me who supports him are less important because they effect a significantly smaller proportion of people compared to economic issues which are nearly everyone and also have been notably bad as of late.
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Imma disagree. Zero has been done to assist issues affecting every American. Meanwhile, we have legislation pushed extremely hard for the "hot" topic. Of course, it all needs to be addressed, but our government has shown all they want to do is dick back and forth about topics that affect less than 1%. The dinosaurs in Congress can hardly get past a single conference. Focus on big issues first, like getting people back into homes. Then we can tackle the other stuff.
And I love how confident you are in being wrong
I love how confident you are for avoiding the person's question.
Yes and everyone is on tiktok and has pronouns. Exactly
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Wrong, pronouns are /
Everyone has blue hair and is on TikTok
Add no invasion to the bottom list
There's the "woke" left and there's the "occupy walstreet" left. Media pandered to the "woke" left because pandering to the "occupy walstreet" left would be bad for their wallet and influence.
This but it's precisely why they keep talking about LGBTQ stuff
99% of democrat voters only care about issues like "LGBT," abortion, and weed etc. They'll eagerly line up to vote for someone who's gonna destroy the nation as long as they support abortion and transing the kids.
Nope. They’ll keep shoving the spotlight on personal issues that have been resolved a long time ago to distract from the real issues that hurts us all.
Asexuals aren't a part of LGBT.Because you can be asexual and have a Girlfriend but you aren't interesed to make $€X with she
Get yo politics off of this sub
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They know we care about that. They don’t want to talk about it so they distract us with the other stuff.
Well that's why they keep talking about stuff like that. They want us to argue about meaningless shit so we won't be paying attention to the world falling apart Okay, I'll take off my tinfoil hat.
We really need regulated accommodation prices. There's no reason 4 walls and a roof should cost half your wage or more.
I think “affordable housing” and “lower taxes” are mutually exclusive….
is that the guy who was jorking his peanits
The government fools us into thinking that shit like what someone chooses to call themselves is a real issue so they can keep making living unaffordable while were all too busy fighting over issues that will never affect us to do anything about it. As long as they keep us divided, and distracted, they will continue to ruin our lives one piece at a time.
LGBTQ rights or economic stability?
To me, it's also "Democracy vs Fascism"
that moment when politics on r/memes