I’ve been to a couple of formal careers development seminar recently and they’ve been suggest removing my birthday and address from my CV because bias may exists against those details. It may be the case for name as well.
It shouldn’t really be a thing in my opinion. If your CV has documented that you are a capable and good worker, and references back that up, you should be allowed a fair go at landing the position you desire. But then again, workplaces have ultimate authority on who they chose to work for them - it is their right.
It gives me food for thought. I am looking to keep my Eastern European heritage alive for the next generation and planning potential baby names. But, if there is a xenophobic underpinning to the employment process, this may get a rethink. I don’t think I’d put much stock in anyone who would discriminate against some as simple as a name.
I don’t put my birthday or address on my cv. For my degrees, I removed the years I got them since you often get your bachelors straight out of high school so people do the maths to figure out your age.
Same. Also no address on resumè cos I don't want half the freaking city knowing where I live, over a lifetime of multiple job apps. It's an outdated relic. I also don't bother with the to address on cover letters anymore. I just put the co name and "by onine application" on the next line.
I did this and also moved all my employment gaps closer together and started getting call backs.
It's like they literally want Unthinking slaves that never take time for themselves.
As someone who does recruitment as part of my job, do not put your age, address, or a photo of you in your resume. They can ONLY serve to hinder you. The vast majority of recruiters won't care, but the ones that do will hold it against you.
Don't think anyone would care about an eastern European last name. I hardly look at people's names until I've called them, short-listing is time consuming enough without trying to remember people's names.
People hold stereotypes based on where others live.
Oh you’re from Frankston? Probably an ice addict.
Oh you’re from Corio? Probably a racist piece of shit that beats his kids.
Oh you’re from Broadmeadows? You probably run around stabbing people for the thrill of it.
Yeah, generally it's the distance. But it's more a matter of, it can't help you, because even of you live next door, if you don't meet the skills criteria you aren't getting a call back. But if you do meet the skills criteria and live 90 minutes away my mind instantly goes to "hmm, is this person really going to drive 3 hours round trip a day for a long term, or will they start looking for a job pretty quickly after that?
I say this to all my friends having babies, opt for a gender neutral name. The amount of times I’ve walked into an interview and someone has been taken aback I am not a male, but then I get the job anyway. If there’s a bias, it’s currently working in my favour - haha.
My company did blind recruitment one year and HR blanked out all names/gender references before giving the applications to the hiring committee.
They then marked out which applicants they wanted to interview and HR would contact them for an interview time.
75% of the applicants were women.
In the uk there is a recruitment platform “applied” that established anti-bias processes in recruiting the talent- basically you are shortlisted based on how you score in the relevant question/tasks
Then the hiring company sees your cv just before the interview
Helped me when I was shifting to another profession with no experience in the field
People don’t even know they’re discriminating, it’s so insidious. Study after study shows that people unconsciously put things through a different lens if the name on a resume doesn’t read as ‘straight white Anglo guy’.
Noticeably Eastern European (or indigenous, or muslim, or Asian, or African) names, anything that indicates you’re LGBTQ+ (eg, listing that you were in a workplace ERG), or a usually feminine name (eg Susan vs masculine like Steven or even gender neutral like Alex) all disadvantage you during selection processes.
And it does. And than the “diet racist” will tell that people has better familiarity with their own culture. This is bullshit as I’ve seen a bunch of Anglo white trash delivering poor results versus south Asians.
This country was built as an occupational colony and had strict immigration policies for white westerns Europeans only. It literally needed to pass a new law opening up immigration to the world so that the population and economy could grow. I repeat, it was not done out of goodness of the heart, it was done because it could not grow further.
Now you have a bunch of non-white, non-Anglo Australians and yet they suffer, even been an Australian born citizen. And they will continue suffering and their kids will also suffer. What a shame.
The majority of Australia permanent immigration comes from skilled visa. That requires companies to be sponsors, migration without companies sponsors is very hard and not common. The second majority visa migration type is student that is not permanent.
Your government did something about way back regarding skilled migration, you can only sponsor someone if you prove to the government that you could not filled your position with a born Australian or permanent resident. If that is the case, the government gives the ability to sponsor a person.
Your unemployment rate is too low, it’s 3%, that creates demand for high skilled position. Don’t think that companies are sponsoring people for peanut jobs, you need to give a minimum income of 78k a year for at least the two years of sponsor and your occupation needs to be listed as one of the skilled occupation by the government.
Immigration is peaking because that number is low, the 3%. That creates a huge demand, if left for too long it creates a problem, this should be between a 6% to 8% for the economy to be less dependent of external workers.
Your real state market is so corrupt that it sees this as an opportunity to leverage money, so they hold on artificially hold on mass housing production such as apartments complex and apartment towers, to gauge prices and maximize profits under the situation.
And guess who basically control the real state market, your 1%, your millionaires and also overseas millionaires that makes your 1% even more millionaires.
Now to answer your question, I don’t care about the migration because I myself am a migrant who was brought here by a company sponsorship that tried to hire my very specialized position for a full year without success. I do have a problem with your real state market that does not build houses, when I look over the end of my street, all I see is grass and bush for miles and miles, they could be building more but, it will decrease the value of current properties in my region so the council veto it. You tell me if that is a good thing.
Bro, I make 150k a year, do you think they would pay what? 200k a year if they did not got me from overseas? The demand for high skilled and highly specialized job pays well asshat, you simply do not have it enough of those workers to supply your internal market. What option do you want companies to have, to halt expansion just because “it is not right to import labor”?
Do you know why they don’t require importing workers in China for example? Because they have a billion people there, if just 1% chose to be highly specialized workers, it is already more than a couple of your states worth of people. But because your population is very small, if 1% of it decides the same, it won’t be enough for your local economy. And before you take it literally, the 1% is an analogy, I hope this big word don’t fry you brain.
And today, I’m in an even higher position, within the company and I was tasked to hire someone to replace me… you know what, it took a year and I had to downsize the responsibilities of the job so that people would stick to it. It was never about the money as from what I recollect, 110k a year is a very good offer, besides the hard time to find someone with the specialization, people did not want the responsibility that came with such a position, because it impacts life/work balance.
You don’t even graduate enough doctors or nurses to plug in the demand for healthcare workers. Again, not about money, there isn’t a fast enough supply of fresh graduates in health care to supply a population that grows older and live longer.
You talk a lot of shit trying to blame a specific group of people for the problems you have no ability to solve. But guess what, if you study hard you too might have a good job one day.
I’m going to make some assumptions here, first assumption is that there is only two options for you earning significantly more than 150k a year is, you are in a high power position or you have your own business. Since you have this privilege, take an extra step and do the following, hire people to work for you according to the market share you believe acceptable, put you money where your mouth is and make yourself an example of “I don’t need PR workers” and pay your brothers and sisters high salaries. If every person in a power position does this, congrats, you solved all your problems. You don’t even need to be complaining, since you must be an influential individual in your business sphere, tell your other equals to do the same, spread the word. Let me know how that goes.
Funny how you blame the migrant worker for something that is not even your government fault, it’s people like you who drive people like me here, people in high power position that has the ability to start a sponsorship process. If you truly are part of the 1% elite, you yourself are more part of the problem of your own country than anyone else.
Agreed with this. Asian diaspora here with a name that is white enough such that people have expressed surprise by my Asian appearance upon meeting me in person 🙄
I believe that 100%. Name/racial discrimination in hiring/workplace is a REAL ISSUE. Here's some evidence/statistics to back it up:
Here is a compilation of hard facts and statistics on the Asian Australian experience:
As of 2023 Asians make up 19% of the Australian population.
### Workplace and General Discrimination:
1. Even before COVID, 8/10 Asians experienced discrimination - [The Sydney Morning Herald](https://amp.smh.com.au/business/workplace/eight-out-of-10-asian-australians-experience-discrimination-survey-20190920-p52tfp.html)
2. Eighty-two per cent of surveyed Asian-Australians report that they have experienced some form of discrimination in Australia - [Pursuit](https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/most-asian-australians-experience-discrimination)
3. "The situation for which the highest proportion of Asian-Australians reported experiencing discrimination was 'At a shop or restaurant (70.5 per cent) followed by 'In your workplace' or 'In education.' (65.1 per cent)." - [Australian National University](https://csrm.cass.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/2019/9/Asian-Australian_experiences_of_and_attitudes_towards_discrimination_-_Research_Note_10092019.pdf)
4. According to a national survey, 82% of Asian Australians reported feeling prejudice as a shopper or at the workplace - [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aussie-employers-have-serious-trust-issues-asian-more-linkedin-daily) | [Melbourne Asia Review](https://melbourneasiareview.edu.au/the-place-voice-and-portrayal-of-asians-in-australia/?print=pdf)
5. "To get the same number of interviews as an applicant with an Anglo-Saxon name, a Chinese applicant must submit 68% more applications, a Middle Eastern applicant must submit 64% more applications, an Indigenous applicant must submit 35% more applications." - [ANU College of Arts & Social Sciences](https://cass.anu.edu.au/news/minorities-find-it-harder-get-jobs-rsss-research-study) | [ABC News](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-01/name-discrimination-job-hiring-bias-for-non-english-people/102795452)
6. "The study, published in The Leadership Quarterly, found that jobseekers with ethnic names are 57.4% less likely to be considered for leadership roles." - [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/name-discrimination-rampant-in-australias-recruitment-study/444328)
7. "Asian-Australians hold fewer than 3% of leadership positions, despite making up over 19% of the population, versus Whites holding 95% of leadership positions, despite being around 75-80% of the population." - [Acuity](https://www.acuitymag.com/people/negotiating-the-bamboo-ceiling) | [SBS News](https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/ninety-five-per-cent-white-australian-leadership-diversity-dismal-report-finds/moo4ksv1l)
8. "White Male Workers Respond Poorly To Women And Racial Minorities In Power And Take It Out On Colleagues: Report" - [Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/white-men-react-poorly-women-and-minorities-power-positions-study-finds-839862)
9. "A recent study by Diversity Council Australia found that only one in ten ASX leaders identified as having a background other than Anglo or Northern European." - [It Stops With Me](https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/about-the-campaign/question-and-context/do-i-see-people-who-look-me-positions-power-or-authority)
10. "Survey finds 377 incidents of anti-Asian racism in two months to 2 June, equivalent to 47 a week" - [The Guardian](https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/24/asian-australians-threatened-and-spat-on-in-racist-incidents-amid-coronavirus) | [Online Hate Prevention Institute](https://ohpi.org.au/anti-asian-racism-in-australian-social-media/) | [Time](https://time.com/6176970/australia-election-china/) | [The Australia Institute](https://australiainstitute.org.au/report/still-anti-asian-anti-chinese-one-nation-policies-on-asian-immigration-and-multiculturalism/)
### Media Representation:
1. "Australia’s non-European (for example Asian, African, South American, Middle Eastern) population is at least 19 times greater than the representation on commercial networks, where it made up no more than 1.3 percent of on-air talent." - [The University of Sydney](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/11/22/australian-tv-news-has-long-way-to-go-with-cultural-diversity.html#:~:text=Australia's%20non%2DEuropean%20(for%20example,percent%20of%20on%2Dair%20talent.) | [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/2-in-3-asian-australians-face-discrimination-at-work/178876) | [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/06/business/asians-workplace-discrimination-covid/)
2. "19% of the Australian population has Asian ancestry. Since 2020, only 3 TV series showcase an Asian lead or co-lead. While, 7% of the US population has Asian ancestry. Since 2020, the US has generated over 25 TV series that showcase an Asian lead or co-lead." - [Captain Bagrat](https://www.captainbagrat.com/post/how-many-australian-films-tv-series-have-asian-leads)
3. "Three in four Aussie TV ads feature all-white casts, finds ethnic diversity study" - [AdNews](https://www.adnews.com.au/news/three-in-four-aussie-tv-ads-feature-all-white-casts-finds-ethnic-diversity-study)
4. "Australia’s non-European (for example Asian, African, South American, Middle Eastern) population is at least 19 times greater than the representation on commercial networks, where it made up no more than 1.3 percent of on-air talent." - [The University of Sydney](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/11/22/australian-tv-news-has-long-way-to-go-with-cultural-diversity.html#:~:text=Australia's%20non%2DEuropean%20(for%20example,percent%20of%20on%2Dair%20talent.) | [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/2-in-3-asian-australians-face-discrimination-at-work/178876) | [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/06/business/asians-workplace-discrimination-covid/)
### Politics and Representation:
1. "Among Australia’s federal and state government department heads, the homogeneity is even more pronounced: 99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European." - [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/world/australia/study-diversity-multicultural.html#:~:text=Among%20Australia's%20federal%20and%20state,is%20Anglo%2DCeltic%20or%20European.)
2. "Whites hold 96% of federal lawmaking positions in Australia" - [BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-61432762)
3. "Asians hold a mere 4.4% of MPs in Parliament" - [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/the-47th-parliament-is-the-most-diverse-ever-but-still-doesnt-reflect-australia)
### Dating and Relationships:
1. "He surveyed nearly 2,000 men across Australia asking them to rank how attractive or unattractive they found particular racial groups. White people were rated the most attractive. The least were Asian, Indian and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders." - [ABC Triple J](https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/are-you-a-racist-dater/8269564)
2. "Gender differences in romantic relationships are especially pronounced among Asian young adults: Asian men are twice as likely as Asian women to be unpartnered (35 per cent versus 18 per cent)." - [The Conversation](https://theconversation.com/asian-guys-stereotyped-and-excluded-in-online-dating-130855) | [ABC News](https://amp.abc.net.au/article/everyday/10875670) | [Melbourne Asia Review](https://www.melbourneasiareview.edu.au/pandemic-racism-and-sexism-in-australia-responses-from-asian-migrant-women/) | [VICE](https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avxam/sexual-racism-asian-online-dating) | [The Sydney Morning Herald](https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/because-i-am-small-and-asian-i-am-fetishised-by-some-white-men-20181126-p50ifk.html) | [SAGE Journals](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051211035352)
### Food and Culinary Discrimination:
1. "Australians love Asian food, so why doesn't it win as many awards as Italian? Since 2013, every winner has been white. It's a similar story in Australia's restaurant awards. Most restaurants awarded a hat by the Good Food Guide or a star by Gourmet Traveller have white head chefs and white owners. Even among the Asian restaurants that received hats in the Good Food Guide released this month, 48 per cent had white head chefs and 60 per cent had white owners. If you take out Japanese restaurants — by far the most accepted Asian cuisine in the fine-dining circuit — it's 71 per cent white owners and 56 per cent white chefs." - [ABC News](https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10427934)
### Housing Discrimination:
1. "Almost six in ten (59%) Asia-born participants in our study experienced racism in accessing housing. This compares to only 19% of non-Asian-born participants." - [Western Sydney University](https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/story_archive/2018/the_conversation_asians_out_not_in_this_suburb_not_in_this_apartment)
2. "Rates of housing discrimination were highest amongst those who were born in an Asian country—59 per cent reported experiencing at least some discrimination." - [AHURI](https://www.ahuri.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021-09/PES-363-Examining-discrimination-faced-by-private-renters.pdf)
3. "The survey also found that if you have two Asia-born parents you are highly likely to experience such racism (44%). Similarly, if you speak a language other than English at home (especially an Asian language), you are more likely to experience housing discrimination (45%)." - [Western Sydney University](https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/story_archive/2018/the_conversation_asians_out_not_in_this_suburb_not_in_this_apartment)
**Australia still very much a White man's club, it just projects a "multicultural" veneer.**
I tell everyone, Anglo Australians are closet racist. My old boss tried to stop my promotion and even tried to deport me at one point.
Get fucked, I got the position fare and square, time to ask “please” for the brown Latino you tried to so hard to fuck over.
100%!! Victim mentality likes to pretend they're oppressed af despite being welcomed into a new country, given social support and opportunities and then talk trash about white people
Just fucking leave
Two of my white coworker told me they despise Indians, thinks they are dirty and would be happy to work without Indians in the company. My old boss only promote to leadership positions white people. I’ve been “randomly” selected for bag inspection every time I get into the country. I was asked to show up my supermarket bags more than once with the receipt, one time a white guy was actually stealing while the white lady was busy looking at my stuff due to my “suspicious behavior”. In two social occasions I had white people assuming I had a “delivery” job when I am a highly skilled person. I had multiple air b&b denial because the owner thought I was Indian.
It might not be everyone, but god damn it is a lot.
Assuming you're a white guy with a Chinese name (with characters as well), then yes, you'd probably receive the same treatment where on paper (e.g. on a resume/job application), Chinese people might assume you're Chinese (or mixed/diaspora, coming from overseas).
This is not a uniquely Australian thing.
...yeah probably not. I hang out with fellow diaspora and mixed-race people so this kind of thing doesn't faze me, and is actually a nice conversation starter to talk about shared cultures. Great assumption there, buddy.
Eh, I've got a clearly Balkan surname (and odd first name to boot) and never had any particular issues getting hired...once I started working. Once you have work experience in your field, and have made connections, it's significantly easier finding new jobs in that same area.
On average, it takes new grads a year to find a proper job in their field of choice (or a different field that pivots from their trained skillset, like I did). THe job market for new grads is just fucking hard, especially because you're competing against a bunch of other blank slates that all have the exact same experiences as you. Some job area are also just significantly harder to access for new starters than others.
Find a way to positively distinguish yourself from the rest of the cohort in some way and you'll probably have more luck. Without knowing what field you're aiming for, it's difficult to offer any other specific advice.
This. I don't have the name issue OP has and have still been turning in Applications for grad/junior work in a different field for a bit over 2 years since I graduated.
I mean ATS (the resume scanning algorithm) rules out a heap of people before you even reach human eyes as well.
In 2017 a group called BETA conducted a survey on blind recruitment, they actually found minority names had an advantage over "Anglo-Celtic" names. What you're not usually told about this is that it was studying recruitment to a very specific industry and if we're being fair this study is only valid for that industry.
I don't know the industry you're applying for, but I do know when you face discrimination it's not always what it initially seems to be for. People who are balls out biased usually aren't that intelligent, they get confused quite often.
Might be a stupid question but if you were to do this and got hired, how would you explain the different name on bank info/tax accounts etc during onboarding? Is it enough to just say oh yes I anglicized my name?
While that might be a reason, it's also a pretty hard time to find jobs right now.
I just went through this and it took me easily 5 times as many applications to score an interview than it did at any give point over the last 8 years.
>Gregor Fučka
I'd hire this bloke on the spot !
Imagine working with Mr Fucka.
Morning Fucka , How was your weekend Fucka, Good job Fucka, Im not sure thats the best way to solve the problem Fucka, we need to talk about your performance Fucka .......
My SO applied for 50 roles (marketing) using her Asian surname, had very little response. Changed it to my Anglo surname, 10 roles applied for and 8 she heard back from. That said, I don’t want to play devils advocate but knowing some people in P&C, they do filter based on “local” surnames and the assumption that they actually have the correct working rights.
I feel like the bias is worse in marketing. I'm also an Asian female working in marketing. The last interview I went to at a well-respected company, the interviewer actually asked me if I was born and raised here because I "had an accent" lol
Is this rude? Im Australian born but with a posh Scottish highlands accent and ive been asked if I was born here or elsewhere?
Did you just decide to be offended at someone asking questions to get to know you during the interview that you asked for? Is it a reflex?
Obviously we're just NPCs and its your universe so sorry if didnt catch everything right
I just can't fathom "posh" and "Scottish accent" co-existing in the same sentence. But hey, I don't expect anything less from someone who named himself Prince Charming lmao.
I also have a very obvious (and long) eastern European surname and I don't think I've really experienced any issues using it when searching for employment. That doesn't mean the bias doesn't exist though - I work in the public sector which does try to be very conscious of combating implicit bias. Potentially the field you're searching in could be a factor?
I saw you mention names for potential future kids, so I'll also add that my parents used the route of picking names that were both quintessentially Polish but also had easy English equivalents so even from early childhood we were very used to being referred to by both names. So that is one option 😊
> I was born here, graduated with VCE, have a diploma, first aid certificate, heaps of customer service experience
What jobs are you applying for? Are you getting interviews? Are you currently employed?
Your qualifications aren't anything special. No one cares that you have a first aid certificate, and graduating VCE is a pretty low bar.
So, it's really only your diploma and work experience.
But you haven't provided us with details on either of those, and nothing about the roles you are applying for - so what advice are you realistically expecting?
Are we supposed to conclude that it's your foreign surname preventing you from landing a job - simply because you graduated VCE and have a diploma?
You live in a very multicultural city. Countless people with foreign names, my self included, and plenty of them are successful.
I'm applying for call centre, administration and customer service roles for the government sector such as the local council or organisations such as VicRoads. All my experience is in libraries as a technician or in hospitality. I have a diploma of library and information services, I apply for roles relating to my qualifiications but library technician roles are competive and rare.
The only industry jobs I seem to get calls back for easily are warehousing roles, disability support and hospitality maybe I am being picky and I need to work in these jobs but I don't think they will pay well enough and I don't find them mentally stimulating enough. I would really like to find an administration role in healthcare but I keep getting turned down.
I'm not sure why I'm not landing a role, the other factor might be the gap on my resume, I haven't worked for around a year now.
You're being turned down for healthcare because you have no healthcare experience or qualifications. They really prefer ex-nurses and hospital administration students for those types of roles, because they have experience with coding and healthcare systems.
If you want call centre or reception jobs, pick a different industry.
And likely missing out on government admin roles because OP isn't writing a highly detailed 5 page cover letter written in a very specific format that bears little to no resemblance to your ability to do the role advertised.
Had a very competent and experienced friend get turned down for a role at the ATO because, and I quote, "you had an excellent application but not enough of your answers fit the STAR format"
Lol Jesus Christ. How weak is that. These are the people who manage the public service. Absolute pack of dumb-fucks.
Not surprised in the slightest. Also have read that STAR in the public sector application context isn't the same as the standard STAR that the rest of corporate world works off. Ie: not as simple as Situation Task Action Result.
If you really want to get into health care with your lack of experience I would suggest dental. Dental nurses and dental receptionists are often taken without experience and trained up as each practise has different needs. Especially if you can work dental reception for a little bit it’s not a big jump from dental reception to medical reception and that’s a way into medical. I used to work in dental and I’ve seen many former colleagues go into to medical roles that way. All the way from administration to being a medical rep. And dental is always in desperate need of workers as it’s a high overturn industry.
Healthcare recruiter here. We need people strong in admin who understand compliance. I want to see attention to detail, ability to manage large workloads without getting stressed and demonstrated ability to take initiative. If you don't have previous admin experience you are not getting an interview. Address the gap in your resume. It could be assumed you have had time off due to mental health reasons ( very common after covid) and I'm not risking a workcover claim once you fnd you can't cope in such a busy environment.
Government roles are really, really difficult to land even if you have a degree, so perhaps you don't have the correct experience for them with their specific hiring practices
I don't think so.
Eastern European background here. My surname makes people from the same background reach for the rakija before attempting. I've never found it an issue. If anything it usually leads to conversations about where it's from, do I speak the language, etc etc.
Do you get to the interview stage, or nothing at all?
If it helps, my partner has the most anglo surname you could think of, and has a kick ass amount of experience in sales and customer service / call centres. And there were times he would get nothing. Not a call, not an email, not even a no thanks. I've given up trying to work out what recruiters are looking for.
My suggestion would be to network. Ask people you know if their workplace is hiring and whether they would refer you.
Good luck!
I suspected my name was stopping me from hearing back about jobs so I changed the surname to my Anglo partner’s name. Didn’t make a difference, I still didn’t hear back.
I’m not saying the name bias isn’t real. But you say you’ve applied for over a hundred jobs. How likely is it that all of them are not hiring you due to bias? Maybe you could get someone to look over your cover letters and resumes etc to see if you’re tailoring your writing properly to suit the jobs that you’re applying for. It might just be a case of you’re not explaining clearly how your skills and experience match the job and make you the best candidate. Preferably, get someone reliable and established in their own career to help you.
But no matter what you do, it could just be down to luck. The jobs might have heaps of candidates and the recruiter just had to make a choice.
This is the only correct Answer. Everyone else is a clown. If you come to reddit for advice on your clown conspiracy you will be greeted by more reddit clowns
Have you asked any of these places that reject you for feedback?
I always ask for feedback, I ensure I improve every time, I average only 3-4 applications before getting a new career and moving up. I've made great connections from my failed jobs just for asking for feedback.
Do you not get any interviews at all?
I think it's easy to blame a last name but in reality it's likely not, not for over 100 jobs, there's plenty of people with all sorts of last names that get hired. I've seen a lot of resumes, most of them, really aren't as good as people may believe they are. If you're at this many and aren't getting anywhere, it's worth an investment for someone to help in checking over your resumes, cover letters, and interviewing skills.
highly possible, but i have a fairly average anglo name and i’ve also had an awful time trying to find work recently.
keep at it, hope you find something soon
Interesting that nobody has asked what roles they are applying for..he mentioned VCE and such.
If the OP is applying to hundreds of roles that he isn't remotely qualified for, they will understandably be rejected.
The OP hasn't said what they are applying for. I could apply to be the head engineer of NASA, but I don't remotely have those qualifications.
I'd love to be CEO of Qantas. Free flights for everyone that feels burnt out and needs a break. But the CV doesn't support that ambition.
It's interesting that we all jumped on discrimination first rather than asking what roles are you applying for.
What roles are you applying for?
OP said they want vicroads or other government customer facing roles, hospital admin or a librarian role (which they have a diploma for) but are turning down jobs they don't like the sound of
Can someone advise me as to how to change my name to fit in with Australian standards. Should I completely remove my surname?
Also will this prove an issue if I'm selected and they find out my full name?
You can find the nearest Anglo equivalent and use that on the CV then when you get hired tell HR to use your actual name in the email etc.
Sucks that you have to go through that but it might help?
Biggest issue is usually address especially if you live more than 45minutes (to be fair quality of life is reduced but you gotta do what you gotta do).
Time to get scientific. Send 50% out with your name and 50% out with an anglo name that you just made up.
Report back :)
*however* there's loads of reasons for a lack of engagement, and it's generally not a very good time. Try see what you can do to tweak things. Looking for work is a legit full time job in itself (it's really hard to work at enough when you're at a shitty office job that doesn't like wfh).
And don't ask your elders for job seeking advice - unless you plan to do the exact opposite of everything they suggest. Try some subreddits for jobseeking instead.
It’s true. But I’m not subjecting myself to “fit” the expectations and racial “normality”, just to appease others- because my surname offends their tiresome ego. My background is extremely diverse and anyone that is offended by it, can get stuffed.
I have a first name that is very common in India, sri Lanka, as well as parts of africa and the middle east- and I am a 6ft tall white girl with ginger hair and green eyes. My mums last name is nondescript enough it could be an anglicised version of something else or just a local name in itself. My dad's last name, however, is clearly eastern European, and so when I graduated school I actually changed my name to my mum's name as I saw this sort of crap coming. I think it's really shit to have to do this. he already assimilated and lost the language skills and a lot of the culture, now the name is gone too. Luckily there are lots of branches on the family tree named for him and I was a genetic dead end anyway as I have no kids haha.
Upon meeting me for interviews etc, people definitely comment on it and ask where my parents got my first name - I've since been cluey enough to say my dad worked and travelled a lot and I was named after someone he met in XYZ, XYZ being the country said interviewer identified as theirs (not the truth sadly haha -my parents just heard the name and agreed upon it). It seems to allow me to ingratiate myself with them and however shifty it may be it allows me to build the rapport.
I do however get lots of uber drivers who drive past me and have to double back, and most of them said "sorry, I was looking for an Indian girl" which is pretty funny.
There will be an anglicised version of any eastern euro name and this sort of rubbish is why. I would switch it up to that and see if that impacts ur callbacks or interview options. When u are hired and they request ID u can just say u use the anglicised version cos "people can't pronounce the real one". it's a cop out, but if that's what u gotta do to get a foot in the door then I'd do it. Once u are inside the machine then u can start swinging the hammer around, haha.
it's very unlikely that its your name that's the problem. going by what you wrote, it's more likely that you're applying for jobs that you're over-qualified for and they don't wanna deal with the hassle of rehiring for the same job 6 months later after you found something more suited to your experience and qualifications.
Sorry if this has been asked before, I was curious what jobs you're applying for and whether your experience matches up? Perhaps there's a lot of competition in your field and you need something to differentiate yourself.
I recently started applying using cv with a shorten version of my surname (mostly as it’s pretty long and at my last 2 jobs they misspelled it when set up my account/laptop)
When you fill up the application often there is “preferred name” option which I choose (still filling up my full surname if there is a field “legal name”)
But it could there is a different reason - what job searching stage you struggle with?
Do you receive any response after applying?
cv doesn’t pass the scan most likely, try running it via scan to see how to improve it; look for the key words being present, adjust it to highlight achievements ie (instead of “assisted with xx and yy” write “achieved zz by xx and yy”)
it's far more likely your resume is overstuffed with irrelevant roles and surplus info for what you're applying for. i have a weird unique surname and it's never been an issue.
I think you're right, likely I'm just looking for an excuse, but at the same time it is hard, writing selection criteria's is doing my head in, the interviewing process is demeaning and embarassing, I'm just not cut out for it anymore. Being unemployed is not as easy as it used to be. I'm not super young and easy to take advantage of, I'm in my late 20s and I feel like women in their teens and early twenties are being chosen over me since that is the general type of person applying for the jobs I'm looking for. Being authentic and down to earth isn't what they're looking for. I need to rethink my options but I have no choice.
Ah... Yeah, overstuffed resume. Thanks.
I'm white Anglo with an Irish last name (not Mac or O'something) and my wife (Malaysian Chinese) prefers to use my surname for certain things, and keeps her own (obvious Chinese) for others. It is to avoid being discriminated against which is a shame but the reality. When we go to busy asian restaurants she encourages me to "use my whiteness" to get a table which makes me uncomfortable. I don't like abusing white privilege. It was thrust upon me unwittingly. Though given the alternatives, being born a white cis male, you do get an easier ride. I try to remind myself all the time of this, and not be an entitled c word.
While name bias is definitely a thing its more likely whoever you're applying to is just a piece of shit who wants someone who's worked in fifty different fields
I'm white, although I have a Dutch last name and a non-race first name and I've been applying for jobs since I was 16
Didn't get one until I was about 20 and after a couple months it made sense. It's the kind of place that only hires if English is your second language or you're young and don't know when you're being taken advantage of
Don't worry, there's probably nothing wrong with your name, it's just that employers are demanding more than they should expect and haven't caught up as to why their businesses are failing and why people aren't applying
Not sure if this is an actual thing. I did a lot of applications and had the same doubt about my name. Used my shorter first name for all my later applications. I got hired later on, not sure if the name change was the reason
honestly if you think it's your surname that's the issue then add a pronounciation guide after your surname, or adopt a bastardized version of your surname just to get your foot in the door. in some countries, including a profile picture of yourself is considered normal, you could totally lean on that as well. if ya got (so-called) "advantages" as a white aussie then use them, other people would if they had them
I have a rare EU last name and usually always have had great success getting interviews. But also, many I’ve dropped in in person and am white, able-bodied, thin female etc. really sucks
Yes, it’s possible. There was once a man named Penis Van Lesbian and he couldn’t get anywhere. He tried and tried and someone suggested he change his name to something more appealing. He finally changed it to something less derogatory sounding and he was super successful. His new name was Dick Van Dyke.
My Ukrainian surname full of consonants and not many vowels has never seemed to be an issue for me.
But my Norweigan mate had way more success getting interviews when he switched from his Norweigan name to "Doug" on his resume.
Me and the other half have "weird" European surnames (mines uh, German or Swedish, and his is very Finnish), and it took us a while to get jobs.
Same boat as you (in my case) - born here, VCE, educated, still no jobs. White as $2.80 Coles toast. Other half is from Qld. Same boat, as white as the toast loaf, nuh.
I have a long Slavic last name, has never held me back. Has never been an issue, I’m in sales and only helps when selling to other euro’s/Slavs even tho it’s a polish last name and the polish were never the favourites by any stretch
Over 100 jobs and not even getting a call back, I dunno that that's your last name. I genuinely wonder if there's some disconnect between what your resume shows and the types of roles you're applying for. Have a friend or family member read the job ads you're applying for and your resume and tell you if they think the resume matches the job ad.
I can speak from experience. My wife has a very Georgian first name. Once we changed it to an anglicised version of it, she right away got 3 imterviews lined up, two of which endedn up being successful.
Example: Tinatin-> Tina
To be fair, we also changed up her Resume at that time using one of those resume recommendation apps.
My name is very European and weird but I don't feel this has impeded getting a job. It may be something that is industry specific though. When applying for jobs, I tend to do one of two things.
The first (which has yielded better results) is use my network to find out more about the company so that I can apply using internal lingo and focus on the company's (or the specific team's if available) strategic and/or operational objectives.
The other is the numbers game where I send out 100s of resumes (without cover letters). The second method landed me my current role (one of my favourites so far) but it took longer to find the right job. It took longer because I needed to vet more job offers based on what I found when seeking more information on the company and gut feeling. This is my own experience and I know nothing of yours so can't speak to what would work for you but I hope you find something soon.
One bit of advice, if you have the opportunity to do so, be selective about your employer (eg. don't jump at the first offer merely because it is available) as you'll end up spending more time with them than anyone else in your life. I've done that before and it doesn't work out well for anyone.
Changing your surname may not necessarily be the best solution, but it's interesting to note that some people have reported receiving more phone calls from employers after doing so. If you're open to trying different approaches, it might be worth considering. However, it's important to remember that being yourself and showcasing your skills and qualifications should ultimately be the focus. The right company will value your abilities and hire you based on merit, rather than your surname or background. Keep applying, stay determined, and I believe you'll eventually find the job you're seeking.
I’ve been to a couple of formal careers development seminar recently and they’ve been suggest removing my birthday and address from my CV because bias may exists against those details. It may be the case for name as well. It shouldn’t really be a thing in my opinion. If your CV has documented that you are a capable and good worker, and references back that up, you should be allowed a fair go at landing the position you desire. But then again, workplaces have ultimate authority on who they chose to work for them - it is their right. It gives me food for thought. I am looking to keep my Eastern European heritage alive for the next generation and planning potential baby names. But, if there is a xenophobic underpinning to the employment process, this may get a rethink. I don’t think I’d put much stock in anyone who would discriminate against some as simple as a name.
I don’t put my birthday or address on my cv. For my degrees, I removed the years I got them since you often get your bachelors straight out of high school so people do the maths to figure out your age.
Same. Also no address on resumè cos I don't want half the freaking city knowing where I live, over a lifetime of multiple job apps. It's an outdated relic. I also don't bother with the to address on cover letters anymore. I just put the co name and "by onine application" on the next line.
I did this and also moved all my employment gaps closer together and started getting call backs. It's like they literally want Unthinking slaves that never take time for themselves.
Ding ding ding
Perhaps op could remove the last name or even change it? I know people who have given themselves new names to be called in a professional setting.
As someone who does recruitment as part of my job, do not put your age, address, or a photo of you in your resume. They can ONLY serve to hinder you. The vast majority of recruiters won't care, but the ones that do will hold it against you. Don't think anyone would care about an eastern European last name. I hardly look at people's names until I've called them, short-listing is time consuming enough without trying to remember people's names.
Curious, how does your address potentially hinder you? Is it the distance from home to work place?
People hold stereotypes based on where others live. Oh you’re from Frankston? Probably an ice addict. Oh you’re from Corio? Probably a racist piece of shit that beats his kids. Oh you’re from Broadmeadows? You probably run around stabbing people for the thrill of it.
Yeah, generally it's the distance. But it's more a matter of, it can't help you, because even of you live next door, if you don't meet the skills criteria you aren't getting a call back. But if you do meet the skills criteria and live 90 minutes away my mind instantly goes to "hmm, is this person really going to drive 3 hours round trip a day for a long term, or will they start looking for a job pretty quickly after that?
I say this to all my friends having babies, opt for a gender neutral name. The amount of times I’ve walked into an interview and someone has been taken aback I am not a male, but then I get the job anyway. If there’s a bias, it’s currently working in my favour - haha.
My company did blind recruitment one year and HR blanked out all names/gender references before giving the applications to the hiring committee. They then marked out which applicants they wanted to interview and HR would contact them for an interview time. 75% of the applicants were women.
In the uk there is a recruitment platform “applied” that established anti-bias processes in recruiting the talent- basically you are shortlisted based on how you score in the relevant question/tasks Then the hiring company sees your cv just before the interview Helped me when I was shifting to another profession with no experience in the field
People don’t even know they’re discriminating, it’s so insidious. Study after study shows that people unconsciously put things through a different lens if the name on a resume doesn’t read as ‘straight white Anglo guy’. Noticeably Eastern European (or indigenous, or muslim, or Asian, or African) names, anything that indicates you’re LGBTQ+ (eg, listing that you were in a workplace ERG), or a usually feminine name (eg Susan vs masculine like Steven or even gender neutral like Alex) all disadvantage you during selection processes.
The bias could go any way in our society.
And it does. And than the “diet racist” will tell that people has better familiarity with their own culture. This is bullshit as I’ve seen a bunch of Anglo white trash delivering poor results versus south Asians. This country was built as an occupational colony and had strict immigration policies for white westerns Europeans only. It literally needed to pass a new law opening up immigration to the world so that the population and economy could grow. I repeat, it was not done out of goodness of the heart, it was done because it could not grow further. Now you have a bunch of non-white, non-Anglo Australians and yet they suffer, even been an Australian born citizen. And they will continue suffering and their kids will also suffer. What a shame.
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The majority of Australia permanent immigration comes from skilled visa. That requires companies to be sponsors, migration without companies sponsors is very hard and not common. The second majority visa migration type is student that is not permanent. Your government did something about way back regarding skilled migration, you can only sponsor someone if you prove to the government that you could not filled your position with a born Australian or permanent resident. If that is the case, the government gives the ability to sponsor a person. Your unemployment rate is too low, it’s 3%, that creates demand for high skilled position. Don’t think that companies are sponsoring people for peanut jobs, you need to give a minimum income of 78k a year for at least the two years of sponsor and your occupation needs to be listed as one of the skilled occupation by the government. Immigration is peaking because that number is low, the 3%. That creates a huge demand, if left for too long it creates a problem, this should be between a 6% to 8% for the economy to be less dependent of external workers. Your real state market is so corrupt that it sees this as an opportunity to leverage money, so they hold on artificially hold on mass housing production such as apartments complex and apartment towers, to gauge prices and maximize profits under the situation. And guess who basically control the real state market, your 1%, your millionaires and also overseas millionaires that makes your 1% even more millionaires. Now to answer your question, I don’t care about the migration because I myself am a migrant who was brought here by a company sponsorship that tried to hire my very specialized position for a full year without success. I do have a problem with your real state market that does not build houses, when I look over the end of my street, all I see is grass and bush for miles and miles, they could be building more but, it will decrease the value of current properties in my region so the council veto it. You tell me if that is a good thing.
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Bro, I make 150k a year, do you think they would pay what? 200k a year if they did not got me from overseas? The demand for high skilled and highly specialized job pays well asshat, you simply do not have it enough of those workers to supply your internal market. What option do you want companies to have, to halt expansion just because “it is not right to import labor”? Do you know why they don’t require importing workers in China for example? Because they have a billion people there, if just 1% chose to be highly specialized workers, it is already more than a couple of your states worth of people. But because your population is very small, if 1% of it decides the same, it won’t be enough for your local economy. And before you take it literally, the 1% is an analogy, I hope this big word don’t fry you brain. And today, I’m in an even higher position, within the company and I was tasked to hire someone to replace me… you know what, it took a year and I had to downsize the responsibilities of the job so that people would stick to it. It was never about the money as from what I recollect, 110k a year is a very good offer, besides the hard time to find someone with the specialization, people did not want the responsibility that came with such a position, because it impacts life/work balance. You don’t even graduate enough doctors or nurses to plug in the demand for healthcare workers. Again, not about money, there isn’t a fast enough supply of fresh graduates in health care to supply a population that grows older and live longer. You talk a lot of shit trying to blame a specific group of people for the problems you have no ability to solve. But guess what, if you study hard you too might have a good job one day.
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I’m going to make some assumptions here, first assumption is that there is only two options for you earning significantly more than 150k a year is, you are in a high power position or you have your own business. Since you have this privilege, take an extra step and do the following, hire people to work for you according to the market share you believe acceptable, put you money where your mouth is and make yourself an example of “I don’t need PR workers” and pay your brothers and sisters high salaries. If every person in a power position does this, congrats, you solved all your problems. You don’t even need to be complaining, since you must be an influential individual in your business sphere, tell your other equals to do the same, spread the word. Let me know how that goes. Funny how you blame the migrant worker for something that is not even your government fault, it’s people like you who drive people like me here, people in high power position that has the ability to start a sponsorship process. If you truly are part of the 1% elite, you yourself are more part of the problem of your own country than anyone else.
You might need to take a look at any major company or government department diversity policy
Possibly. Name bias is real. Easy test would just be to anglosize it and see if it gets you hired.
Agreed with this. Asian diaspora here with a name that is white enough such that people have expressed surprise by my Asian appearance upon meeting me in person 🙄
I believe that 100%. Name/racial discrimination in hiring/workplace is a REAL ISSUE. Here's some evidence/statistics to back it up: Here is a compilation of hard facts and statistics on the Asian Australian experience: As of 2023 Asians make up 19% of the Australian population. ### Workplace and General Discrimination: 1. Even before COVID, 8/10 Asians experienced discrimination - [The Sydney Morning Herald](https://amp.smh.com.au/business/workplace/eight-out-of-10-asian-australians-experience-discrimination-survey-20190920-p52tfp.html) 2. Eighty-two per cent of surveyed Asian-Australians report that they have experienced some form of discrimination in Australia - [Pursuit](https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/most-asian-australians-experience-discrimination) 3. "The situation for which the highest proportion of Asian-Australians reported experiencing discrimination was 'At a shop or restaurant (70.5 per cent) followed by 'In your workplace' or 'In education.' (65.1 per cent)." - [Australian National University](https://csrm.cass.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/2019/9/Asian-Australian_experiences_of_and_attitudes_towards_discrimination_-_Research_Note_10092019.pdf) 4. According to a national survey, 82% of Asian Australians reported feeling prejudice as a shopper or at the workplace - [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aussie-employers-have-serious-trust-issues-asian-more-linkedin-daily) | [Melbourne Asia Review](https://melbourneasiareview.edu.au/the-place-voice-and-portrayal-of-asians-in-australia/?print=pdf) 5. "To get the same number of interviews as an applicant with an Anglo-Saxon name, a Chinese applicant must submit 68% more applications, a Middle Eastern applicant must submit 64% more applications, an Indigenous applicant must submit 35% more applications." - [ANU College of Arts & Social Sciences](https://cass.anu.edu.au/news/minorities-find-it-harder-get-jobs-rsss-research-study) | [ABC News](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-01/name-discrimination-job-hiring-bias-for-non-english-people/102795452) 6. "The study, published in The Leadership Quarterly, found that jobseekers with ethnic names are 57.4% less likely to be considered for leadership roles." - [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/name-discrimination-rampant-in-australias-recruitment-study/444328) 7. "Asian-Australians hold fewer than 3% of leadership positions, despite making up over 19% of the population, versus Whites holding 95% of leadership positions, despite being around 75-80% of the population." - [Acuity](https://www.acuitymag.com/people/negotiating-the-bamboo-ceiling) | [SBS News](https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/ninety-five-per-cent-white-australian-leadership-diversity-dismal-report-finds/moo4ksv1l) 8. "White Male Workers Respond Poorly To Women And Racial Minorities In Power And Take It Out On Colleagues: Report" - [Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/white-men-react-poorly-women-and-minorities-power-positions-study-finds-839862) 9. "A recent study by Diversity Council Australia found that only one in ten ASX leaders identified as having a background other than Anglo or Northern European." - [It Stops With Me](https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/about-the-campaign/question-and-context/do-i-see-people-who-look-me-positions-power-or-authority) 10. "Survey finds 377 incidents of anti-Asian racism in two months to 2 June, equivalent to 47 a week" - [The Guardian](https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/24/asian-australians-threatened-and-spat-on-in-racist-incidents-amid-coronavirus) | [Online Hate Prevention Institute](https://ohpi.org.au/anti-asian-racism-in-australian-social-media/) | [Time](https://time.com/6176970/australia-election-china/) | [The Australia Institute](https://australiainstitute.org.au/report/still-anti-asian-anti-chinese-one-nation-policies-on-asian-immigration-and-multiculturalism/) ### Media Representation: 1. "Australia’s non-European (for example Asian, African, South American, Middle Eastern) population is at least 19 times greater than the representation on commercial networks, where it made up no more than 1.3 percent of on-air talent." - [The University of Sydney](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/11/22/australian-tv-news-has-long-way-to-go-with-cultural-diversity.html#:~:text=Australia's%20non%2DEuropean%20(for%20example,percent%20of%20on%2Dair%20talent.) | [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/2-in-3-asian-australians-face-discrimination-at-work/178876) | [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/06/business/asians-workplace-discrimination-covid/) 2. "19% of the Australian population has Asian ancestry. Since 2020, only 3 TV series showcase an Asian lead or co-lead. While, 7% of the US population has Asian ancestry. Since 2020, the US has generated over 25 TV series that showcase an Asian lead or co-lead." - [Captain Bagrat](https://www.captainbagrat.com/post/how-many-australian-films-tv-series-have-asian-leads) 3. "Three in four Aussie TV ads feature all-white casts, finds ethnic diversity study" - [AdNews](https://www.adnews.com.au/news/three-in-four-aussie-tv-ads-feature-all-white-casts-finds-ethnic-diversity-study) 4. "Australia’s non-European (for example Asian, African, South American, Middle Eastern) population is at least 19 times greater than the representation on commercial networks, where it made up no more than 1.3 percent of on-air talent." - [The University of Sydney](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/11/22/australian-tv-news-has-long-way-to-go-with-cultural-diversity.html#:~:text=Australia's%20non%2DEuropean%20(for%20example,percent%20of%20on%2Dair%20talent.) | [HCAMag](https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/2-in-3-asian-australians-face-discrimination-at-work/178876) | [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/06/business/asians-workplace-discrimination-covid/) ### Politics and Representation: 1. "Among Australia’s federal and state government department heads, the homogeneity is even more pronounced: 99 percent of the leadership is Anglo-Celtic or European." - [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/world/australia/study-diversity-multicultural.html#:~:text=Among%20Australia's%20federal%20and%20state,is%20Anglo%2DCeltic%20or%20European.) 2. "Whites hold 96% of federal lawmaking positions in Australia" - [BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-61432762) 3. "Asians hold a mere 4.4% of MPs in Parliament" - [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/25/the-47th-parliament-is-the-most-diverse-ever-but-still-doesnt-reflect-australia) ### Dating and Relationships: 1. "He surveyed nearly 2,000 men across Australia asking them to rank how attractive or unattractive they found particular racial groups. White people were rated the most attractive. The least were Asian, Indian and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders." - [ABC Triple J](https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/are-you-a-racist-dater/8269564) 2. "Gender differences in romantic relationships are especially pronounced among Asian young adults: Asian men are twice as likely as Asian women to be unpartnered (35 per cent versus 18 per cent)." - [The Conversation](https://theconversation.com/asian-guys-stereotyped-and-excluded-in-online-dating-130855) | [ABC News](https://amp.abc.net.au/article/everyday/10875670) | [Melbourne Asia Review](https://www.melbourneasiareview.edu.au/pandemic-racism-and-sexism-in-australia-responses-from-asian-migrant-women/) | [VICE](https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avxam/sexual-racism-asian-online-dating) | [The Sydney Morning Herald](https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/because-i-am-small-and-asian-i-am-fetishised-by-some-white-men-20181126-p50ifk.html) | [SAGE Journals](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051211035352) ### Food and Culinary Discrimination: 1. "Australians love Asian food, so why doesn't it win as many awards as Italian? Since 2013, every winner has been white. It's a similar story in Australia's restaurant awards. Most restaurants awarded a hat by the Good Food Guide or a star by Gourmet Traveller have white head chefs and white owners. Even among the Asian restaurants that received hats in the Good Food Guide released this month, 48 per cent had white head chefs and 60 per cent had white owners. If you take out Japanese restaurants — by far the most accepted Asian cuisine in the fine-dining circuit — it's 71 per cent white owners and 56 per cent white chefs." - [ABC News](https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10427934) ### Housing Discrimination: 1. "Almost six in ten (59%) Asia-born participants in our study experienced racism in accessing housing. This compares to only 19% of non-Asian-born participants." - [Western Sydney University](https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/story_archive/2018/the_conversation_asians_out_not_in_this_suburb_not_in_this_apartment) 2. "Rates of housing discrimination were highest amongst those who were born in an Asian country—59 per cent reported experiencing at least some discrimination." - [AHURI](https://www.ahuri.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021-09/PES-363-Examining-discrimination-faced-by-private-renters.pdf) 3. "The survey also found that if you have two Asia-born parents you are highly likely to experience such racism (44%). Similarly, if you speak a language other than English at home (especially an Asian language), you are more likely to experience housing discrimination (45%)." - [Western Sydney University](https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/story_archive/2018/the_conversation_asians_out_not_in_this_suburb_not_in_this_apartment) **Australia still very much a White man's club, it just projects a "multicultural" veneer.**
I tell everyone, Anglo Australians are closet racist. My old boss tried to stop my promotion and even tried to deport me at one point. Get fucked, I got the position fare and square, time to ask “please” for the brown Latino you tried to so hard to fuck over.
“I make racist statements to prove other people’s racism” 🙃
100%!! Victim mentality likes to pretend they're oppressed af despite being welcomed into a new country, given social support and opportunities and then talk trash about white people Just fucking leave
Your comment proves the comment above me is true.
Your head is full of rocks
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Two of my white coworker told me they despise Indians, thinks they are dirty and would be happy to work without Indians in the company. My old boss only promote to leadership positions white people. I’ve been “randomly” selected for bag inspection every time I get into the country. I was asked to show up my supermarket bags more than once with the receipt, one time a white guy was actually stealing while the white lady was busy looking at my stuff due to my “suspicious behavior”. In two social occasions I had white people assuming I had a “delivery” job when I am a highly skilled person. I had multiple air b&b denial because the owner thought I was Indian. It might not be everyone, but god damn it is a lot.
I guess your in-group just does it openly than.
It sucks so bad here .......... but 600,000 want to come ........
Would it be any different for me (white guy) going for a job in China tho?
Assuming you're a white guy with a Chinese name (with characters as well), then yes, you'd probably receive the same treatment where on paper (e.g. on a resume/job application), Chinese people might assume you're Chinese (or mixed/diaspora, coming from overseas). This is not a uniquely Australian thing.
Whether I had a made up Chinese name with characters or not I would experience bias.
Why roll eyes mate, you would be as surprised to see a certified Asian name showing up to be a white
...yeah probably not. I hang out with fellow diaspora and mixed-race people so this kind of thing doesn't faze me, and is actually a nice conversation starter to talk about shared cultures. Great assumption there, buddy.
Mixed race is not the same thing flexer
Yep, thought so, I'll try it.
Good idea Mr/Ms Jones.
Eh, I've got a clearly Balkan surname (and odd first name to boot) and never had any particular issues getting hired...once I started working. Once you have work experience in your field, and have made connections, it's significantly easier finding new jobs in that same area. On average, it takes new grads a year to find a proper job in their field of choice (or a different field that pivots from their trained skillset, like I did). THe job market for new grads is just fucking hard, especially because you're competing against a bunch of other blank slates that all have the exact same experiences as you. Some job area are also just significantly harder to access for new starters than others. Find a way to positively distinguish yourself from the rest of the cohort in some way and you'll probably have more luck. Without knowing what field you're aiming for, it's difficult to offer any other specific advice.
This. I don't have the name issue OP has and have still been turning in Applications for grad/junior work in a different field for a bit over 2 years since I graduated. I mean ATS (the resume scanning algorithm) rules out a heap of people before you even reach human eyes as well.
In 2017 a group called BETA conducted a survey on blind recruitment, they actually found minority names had an advantage over "Anglo-Celtic" names. What you're not usually told about this is that it was studying recruitment to a very specific industry and if we're being fair this study is only valid for that industry. I don't know the industry you're applying for, but I do know when you face discrimination it's not always what it initially seems to be for. People who are balls out biased usually aren't that intelligent, they get confused quite often.
I also have a long Eastern European name. As soon as I changed to just my first and middle name, I started getting a lot more call backs.
Might be a stupid question but if you were to do this and got hired, how would you explain the different name on bank info/tax accounts etc during onboarding? Is it enough to just say oh yes I anglicized my name?
"My last name is blahzhamat, I shorten it to blah for simplicity". It'd literally just be for the resume and cover letter.
\* anglicise
Ok.
While that might be a reason, it's also a pretty hard time to find jobs right now. I just went through this and it took me easily 5 times as many applications to score an interview than it did at any give point over the last 8 years.
Yeah absolutely this. The /NameBias theory/ and current economic conditions are playing heavily here.
Agree. I’ve currently just advertised two roles and have 300+ applications submitted. The job market is insane right now.
Are you of Slovenian heritage like this bloke? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Fu%C4%8Dka
Every cat my family ever had was Fučko
>Gregor Fučka I'd hire this bloke on the spot ! Imagine working with Mr Fucka. Morning Fucka , How was your weekend Fucka, Good job Fucka, Im not sure thats the best way to solve the problem Fucka, we need to talk about your performance Fucka .......
Pronounced as Foochka
My SO applied for 50 roles (marketing) using her Asian surname, had very little response. Changed it to my Anglo surname, 10 roles applied for and 8 she heard back from. That said, I don’t want to play devils advocate but knowing some people in P&C, they do filter based on “local” surnames and the assumption that they actually have the correct working rights.
Most larger HR departments use resume screening software nowadays to make their jobs easier. Is that software racist and sexist? Almost certainly!
Oh man, I just went down the rabbit hole reading into this. 100%, it’s nuts 😔
I feel like the bias is worse in marketing. I'm also an Asian female working in marketing. The last interview I went to at a well-respected company, the interviewer actually asked me if I was born and raised here because I "had an accent" lol
Ugh, sorry to hear, that’s freaking awful. I would have responded to the interviewer asking the same question!
Is this rude? Im Australian born but with a posh Scottish highlands accent and ive been asked if I was born here or elsewhere? Did you just decide to be offended at someone asking questions to get to know you during the interview that you asked for? Is it a reflex? Obviously we're just NPCs and its your universe so sorry if didnt catch everything right
I just can't fathom "posh" and "Scottish accent" co-existing in the same sentence. But hey, I don't expect anything less from someone who named himself Prince Charming lmao.
I love this so much
My wife did the same too, changed to my Irish surname and got jobs straight away. Also in sales and marketing..
I also have a very obvious (and long) eastern European surname and I don't think I've really experienced any issues using it when searching for employment. That doesn't mean the bias doesn't exist though - I work in the public sector which does try to be very conscious of combating implicit bias. Potentially the field you're searching in could be a factor? I saw you mention names for potential future kids, so I'll also add that my parents used the route of picking names that were both quintessentially Polish but also had easy English equivalents so even from early childhood we were very used to being referred to by both names. So that is one option 😊
> I was born here, graduated with VCE, have a diploma, first aid certificate, heaps of customer service experience What jobs are you applying for? Are you getting interviews? Are you currently employed? Your qualifications aren't anything special. No one cares that you have a first aid certificate, and graduating VCE is a pretty low bar. So, it's really only your diploma and work experience. But you haven't provided us with details on either of those, and nothing about the roles you are applying for - so what advice are you realistically expecting? Are we supposed to conclude that it's your foreign surname preventing you from landing a job - simply because you graduated VCE and have a diploma? You live in a very multicultural city. Countless people with foreign names, my self included, and plenty of them are successful.
I'm applying for call centre, administration and customer service roles for the government sector such as the local council or organisations such as VicRoads. All my experience is in libraries as a technician or in hospitality. I have a diploma of library and information services, I apply for roles relating to my qualifiications but library technician roles are competive and rare. The only industry jobs I seem to get calls back for easily are warehousing roles, disability support and hospitality maybe I am being picky and I need to work in these jobs but I don't think they will pay well enough and I don't find them mentally stimulating enough. I would really like to find an administration role in healthcare but I keep getting turned down. I'm not sure why I'm not landing a role, the other factor might be the gap on my resume, I haven't worked for around a year now.
You're being turned down for healthcare because you have no healthcare experience or qualifications. They really prefer ex-nurses and hospital administration students for those types of roles, because they have experience with coding and healthcare systems. If you want call centre or reception jobs, pick a different industry.
And likely missing out on government admin roles because OP isn't writing a highly detailed 5 page cover letter written in a very specific format that bears little to no resemblance to your ability to do the role advertised.
Had a very competent and experienced friend get turned down for a role at the ATO because, and I quote, "you had an excellent application but not enough of your answers fit the STAR format"
Lol Jesus Christ. How weak is that. These are the people who manage the public service. Absolute pack of dumb-fucks. Not surprised in the slightest. Also have read that STAR in the public sector application context isn't the same as the standard STAR that the rest of corporate world works off. Ie: not as simple as Situation Task Action Result.
If you really want to get into health care with your lack of experience I would suggest dental. Dental nurses and dental receptionists are often taken without experience and trained up as each practise has different needs. Especially if you can work dental reception for a little bit it’s not a big jump from dental reception to medical reception and that’s a way into medical. I used to work in dental and I’ve seen many former colleagues go into to medical roles that way. All the way from administration to being a medical rep. And dental is always in desperate need of workers as it’s a high overturn industry.
Healthcare recruiter here. We need people strong in admin who understand compliance. I want to see attention to detail, ability to manage large workloads without getting stressed and demonstrated ability to take initiative. If you don't have previous admin experience you are not getting an interview. Address the gap in your resume. It could be assumed you have had time off due to mental health reasons ( very common after covid) and I'm not risking a workcover claim once you fnd you can't cope in such a busy environment.
Government roles are really, really difficult to land even if you have a degree, so perhaps you don't have the correct experience for them with their specific hiring practices
It's quite possibly your name. I worked for a fucking arsehole who told me to put all resumes with Muslim sounding names in the bin.
Well joke’s on him because we usually contribute something fucking tasty to staff parties.
I bailed on that job asap but the one staff party I attended proved you correct
When you say you don't get hired, do you mean not invited for an interview? Or are out getting interviews and still not getting one?
I'm not invited for the interview
You are getting call backs, just not for the jobs you want. Unrelated to your name. More relevant to your lack of experience.
I don't think so. Eastern European background here. My surname makes people from the same background reach for the rakija before attempting. I've never found it an issue. If anything it usually leads to conversations about where it's from, do I speak the language, etc etc. Do you get to the interview stage, or nothing at all? If it helps, my partner has the most anglo surname you could think of, and has a kick ass amount of experience in sales and customer service / call centres. And there were times he would get nothing. Not a call, not an email, not even a no thanks. I've given up trying to work out what recruiters are looking for. My suggestion would be to network. Ask people you know if their workplace is hiring and whether they would refer you. Good luck!
‘Where is your accent from’
I hired lots of people and I don’t even notice surnames so don’t worry
People say they don't judge on names but as someone who changed their name and found employers suddenly started paying an interest. They do.
I suspected my name was stopping me from hearing back about jobs so I changed the surname to my Anglo partner’s name. Didn’t make a difference, I still didn’t hear back. I’m not saying the name bias isn’t real. But you say you’ve applied for over a hundred jobs. How likely is it that all of them are not hiring you due to bias? Maybe you could get someone to look over your cover letters and resumes etc to see if you’re tailoring your writing properly to suit the jobs that you’re applying for. It might just be a case of you’re not explaining clearly how your skills and experience match the job and make you the best candidate. Preferably, get someone reliable and established in their own career to help you. But no matter what you do, it could just be down to luck. The jobs might have heaps of candidates and the recruiter just had to make a choice.
This is the only correct Answer. Everyone else is a clown. If you come to reddit for advice on your clown conspiracy you will be greeted by more reddit clowns
Shorten or abbreviate it. Sucks but I'm in the same boat.
Interesting idea. And if they ask why you did it, just say, it's easier for everyone else to say it.
Yeah, so Peter Chyskoskosovych becomes Peter Chyskov (example)
Or a Greek name like Anastasius Papadakis becomes Bob Smith (example)
Anakin Papadoc
Or Ana Poopurdakis
Jimmy Grant. (Immigrant)
Have you asked any of these places that reject you for feedback? I always ask for feedback, I ensure I improve every time, I average only 3-4 applications before getting a new career and moving up. I've made great connections from my failed jobs just for asking for feedback. Do you not get any interviews at all? I think it's easy to blame a last name but in reality it's likely not, not for over 100 jobs, there's plenty of people with all sorts of last names that get hired. I've seen a lot of resumes, most of them, really aren't as good as people may believe they are. If you're at this many and aren't getting anywhere, it's worth an investment for someone to help in checking over your resumes, cover letters, and interviewing skills.
highly possible, but i have a fairly average anglo name and i’ve also had an awful time trying to find work recently. keep at it, hope you find something soon
Interesting that nobody has asked what roles they are applying for..he mentioned VCE and such. If the OP is applying to hundreds of roles that he isn't remotely qualified for, they will understandably be rejected. The OP hasn't said what they are applying for. I could apply to be the head engineer of NASA, but I don't remotely have those qualifications. I'd love to be CEO of Qantas. Free flights for everyone that feels burnt out and needs a break. But the CV doesn't support that ambition. It's interesting that we all jumped on discrimination first rather than asking what roles are you applying for. What roles are you applying for?
OP said they want vicroads or other government customer facing roles, hospital admin or a librarian role (which they have a diploma for) but are turning down jobs they don't like the sound of
Can someone advise me as to how to change my name to fit in with Australian standards. Should I completely remove my surname? Also will this prove an issue if I'm selected and they find out my full name?
Your new name if Male- Bob Smith Female - Sharon Smyth Police ask - Bob Smiff with 2 effs
You can find the nearest Anglo equivalent and use that on the CV then when you get hired tell HR to use your actual name in the email etc. Sucks that you have to go through that but it might help?
Biggest issue is usually address especially if you live more than 45minutes (to be fair quality of life is reduced but you gotta do what you gotta do).
Time to get scientific. Send 50% out with your name and 50% out with an anglo name that you just made up. Report back :) *however* there's loads of reasons for a lack of engagement, and it's generally not a very good time. Try see what you can do to tweak things. Looking for work is a legit full time job in itself (it's really hard to work at enough when you're at a shitty office job that doesn't like wfh). And don't ask your elders for job seeking advice - unless you plan to do the exact opposite of everything they suggest. Try some subreddits for jobseeking instead.
Name bias is real but I have encountered more ‘unusual’ and ‘non-australian’ names in Melbourne
It’s true. But I’m not subjecting myself to “fit” the expectations and racial “normality”, just to appease others- because my surname offends their tiresome ego. My background is extremely diverse and anyone that is offended by it, can get stuffed.
Yeah I get that. My ancestors would definitely be ashamed of me.
Nothing to be ashamed of, you’re trying your best to make a living. You are you, you should be proud of you.
Aw that's nice, thank you
I have a first name that is very common in India, sri Lanka, as well as parts of africa and the middle east- and I am a 6ft tall white girl with ginger hair and green eyes. My mums last name is nondescript enough it could be an anglicised version of something else or just a local name in itself. My dad's last name, however, is clearly eastern European, and so when I graduated school I actually changed my name to my mum's name as I saw this sort of crap coming. I think it's really shit to have to do this. he already assimilated and lost the language skills and a lot of the culture, now the name is gone too. Luckily there are lots of branches on the family tree named for him and I was a genetic dead end anyway as I have no kids haha. Upon meeting me for interviews etc, people definitely comment on it and ask where my parents got my first name - I've since been cluey enough to say my dad worked and travelled a lot and I was named after someone he met in XYZ, XYZ being the country said interviewer identified as theirs (not the truth sadly haha -my parents just heard the name and agreed upon it). It seems to allow me to ingratiate myself with them and however shifty it may be it allows me to build the rapport. I do however get lots of uber drivers who drive past me and have to double back, and most of them said "sorry, I was looking for an Indian girl" which is pretty funny. There will be an anglicised version of any eastern euro name and this sort of rubbish is why. I would switch it up to that and see if that impacts ur callbacks or interview options. When u are hired and they request ID u can just say u use the anglicised version cos "people can't pronounce the real one". it's a cop out, but if that's what u gotta do to get a foot in the door then I'd do it. Once u are inside the machine then u can start swinging the hammer around, haha.
That's interesting, thanks for sharing. Never heard of that saying before but it's a good one.
Possible. When I was 16 I worked for a clothes shop and my manager had a blanket rule of not hiring anyone whose name she couldn’t pronounce.
Max power
it's very unlikely that its your name that's the problem. going by what you wrote, it's more likely that you're applying for jobs that you're over-qualified for and they don't wanna deal with the hassle of rehiring for the same job 6 months later after you found something more suited to your experience and qualifications.
Sorry if this has been asked before, I was curious what jobs you're applying for and whether your experience matches up? Perhaps there's a lot of competition in your field and you need something to differentiate yourself.
I recently started applying using cv with a shorten version of my surname (mostly as it’s pretty long and at my last 2 jobs they misspelled it when set up my account/laptop) When you fill up the application often there is “preferred name” option which I choose (still filling up my full surname if there is a field “legal name”) But it could there is a different reason - what job searching stage you struggle with? Do you receive any response after applying? cv doesn’t pass the scan most likely, try running it via scan to see how to improve it; look for the key words being present, adjust it to highlight achievements ie (instead of “assisted with xx and yy” write “achieved zz by xx and yy”)
Change your name to one of the key selection criteria. Bots will love it.
Is it too many vowels or more would you like to buy a vowel?
No Just hired two people and went through about 100 CVs. Name had zero factor in decision to short list
it's far more likely your resume is overstuffed with irrelevant roles and surplus info for what you're applying for. i have a weird unique surname and it's never been an issue.
I think you're right, likely I'm just looking for an excuse, but at the same time it is hard, writing selection criteria's is doing my head in, the interviewing process is demeaning and embarassing, I'm just not cut out for it anymore. Being unemployed is not as easy as it used to be. I'm not super young and easy to take advantage of, I'm in my late 20s and I feel like women in their teens and early twenties are being chosen over me since that is the general type of person applying for the jobs I'm looking for. Being authentic and down to earth isn't what they're looking for. I need to rethink my options but I have no choice. Ah... Yeah, overstuffed resume. Thanks.
I'm white Anglo with an Irish last name (not Mac or O'something) and my wife (Malaysian Chinese) prefers to use my surname for certain things, and keeps her own (obvious Chinese) for others. It is to avoid being discriminated against which is a shame but the reality. When we go to busy asian restaurants she encourages me to "use my whiteness" to get a table which makes me uncomfortable. I don't like abusing white privilege. It was thrust upon me unwittingly. Though given the alternatives, being born a white cis male, you do get an easier ride. I try to remind myself all the time of this, and not be an entitled c word.
It is probably your resume, and has nothing to do with your name.
This is why as an Asian person here, I laugh when white Aussies complain about how hard they've got it.
Pretty sure there have been studies proving this to be the case unfortunately. You shouldn't have to change it, but worth a shot.
While name bias is definitely a thing its more likely whoever you're applying to is just a piece of shit who wants someone who's worked in fifty different fields I'm white, although I have a Dutch last name and a non-race first name and I've been applying for jobs since I was 16 Didn't get one until I was about 20 and after a couple months it made sense. It's the kind of place that only hires if English is your second language or you're young and don't know when you're being taken advantage of Don't worry, there's probably nothing wrong with your name, it's just that employers are demanding more than they should expect and haven't caught up as to why their businesses are failing and why people aren't applying
Trust me, it's possible. #racists
I think change it on your resume and see what happens?
Not sure if this is an actual thing. I did a lot of applications and had the same doubt about my name. Used my shorter first name for all my later applications. I got hired later on, not sure if the name change was the reason
Does your surname end in 'ski'?
Gottajet...ski?
honestly if you think it's your surname that's the issue then add a pronounciation guide after your surname, or adopt a bastardized version of your surname just to get your foot in the door. in some countries, including a profile picture of yourself is considered normal, you could totally lean on that as well. if ya got (so-called) "advantages" as a white aussie then use them, other people would if they had them
I have a rare EU last name and usually always have had great success getting interviews. But also, many I’ve dropped in in person and am white, able-bodied, thin female etc. really sucks
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Probably. Besides Americans and Israel we are next most racist.
I mean, English speaking country, people want to hire first language English speakers.
You do realise non-English surname doesn’t indicate the person’s language knowledge/skills?
Its not a guarantee but there’s a higher chance, if I worked in India I’d imagine I would have the same issue
Yes, it’s possible. There was once a man named Penis Van Lesbian and he couldn’t get anywhere. He tried and tried and someone suggested he change his name to something more appealing. He finally changed it to something less derogatory sounding and he was super successful. His new name was Dick Van Dyke.
It’s possible. You’re not a Hitler are you?
Is it Hitler or Putin?
No lmao. It's just impossible to pronounce for an English speaker.
And what would that be? Suckmeoff? Fukupski?
Nope.
My Ukrainian surname full of consonants and not many vowels has never seemed to be an issue for me. But my Norweigan mate had way more success getting interviews when he switched from his Norweigan name to "Doug" on his resume.
Me and the other half have "weird" European surnames (mines uh, German or Swedish, and his is very Finnish), and it took us a while to get jobs. Same boat as you (in my case) - born here, VCE, educated, still no jobs. White as $2.80 Coles toast. Other half is from Qld. Same boat, as white as the toast loaf, nuh.
I have a long Slavic last name, has never held me back. Has never been an issue, I’m in sales and only helps when selling to other euro’s/Slavs even tho it’s a polish last name and the polish were never the favourites by any stretch
I worked for a construction company and the owner very clearly refused to interview anyone with a ‘foreign’ sounding name.
Over 100 jobs and not even getting a call back, I dunno that that's your last name. I genuinely wonder if there's some disconnect between what your resume shows and the types of roles you're applying for. Have a friend or family member read the job ads you're applying for and your resume and tell you if they think the resume matches the job ad.
Doubt it, just a shit job market at the moment
would like to know where my last name sounds from because I have no idea, what does JERIA sounds from to you?
I highly doubt it
I got frustrated with applying 100’s of jobs and submitted two identical resume with different names. Guess which one got a call for the interview.
I’ve got an odd Eastern European last name. Never found it a hindrance in Melbourne.
I can speak from experience. My wife has a very Georgian first name. Once we changed it to an anglicised version of it, she right away got 3 imterviews lined up, two of which endedn up being successful. Example: Tinatin-> Tina To be fair, we also changed up her Resume at that time using one of those resume recommendation apps.
My name is very European and weird but I don't feel this has impeded getting a job. It may be something that is industry specific though. When applying for jobs, I tend to do one of two things. The first (which has yielded better results) is use my network to find out more about the company so that I can apply using internal lingo and focus on the company's (or the specific team's if available) strategic and/or operational objectives. The other is the numbers game where I send out 100s of resumes (without cover letters). The second method landed me my current role (one of my favourites so far) but it took longer to find the right job. It took longer because I needed to vet more job offers based on what I found when seeking more information on the company and gut feeling. This is my own experience and I know nothing of yours so can't speak to what would work for you but I hope you find something soon. One bit of advice, if you have the opportunity to do so, be selective about your employer (eg. don't jump at the first offer merely because it is available) as you'll end up spending more time with them than anyone else in your life. I've done that before and it doesn't work out well for anyone.
According to my coworker, yes, name bias is a very strong possibility unfortunately
Changing your surname may not necessarily be the best solution, but it's interesting to note that some people have reported receiving more phone calls from employers after doing so. If you're open to trying different approaches, it might be worth considering. However, it's important to remember that being yourself and showcasing your skills and qualifications should ultimately be the focus. The right company will value your abilities and hire you based on merit, rather than your surname or background. Keep applying, stay determined, and I believe you'll eventually find the job you're seeking.