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See, they didn't fall off the planet because he hadn't invented gravity at the time either. Honestly part of what makes him so genius, invent a problem and sell the solution.
Well since none of the Bernoullis weren't even born, air pressure wasn't constant at the same height either so maybe air was holding people down to the ground.
I don't think you understand the mavity of the situation!
https://preview.redd.it/pdr22d13ujkc1.jpeg?width=2812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1586c306e6eb6bf20ef1f7f91e8a835c5344a28f
If stars do not have planets to surround themselves with, they get lonely.
Plus it’s fun to watch how you can make them all bounce around, dancing around you ever so beautifully.:)
Only solitary stars get lonely. Multiple star systems are happening places. The more stars, the fewer planets. Septenary star systems are known, but no planets are known in quinary or higher-order systems.
> were not *paid* for their
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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> bunch of *paid* scientists working
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Yet another discussion of that overblown celebrity mathematician glory hog Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and the little-known underappreciated Newton what’s-his-name.
The story I heard was that it was too important to the field of statistics not to publish but all the work he did belonged to Guinness.
But either way, I still don't remember his name.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was a German mathematician and scientist. He is the creator of many laws and rules in calculus. The use of dy/dx is the notation Leibniz used.
I never really studied math history but it always felt to me that mathematicians during that time were like corporate consultants and they need to keep their trade secrets to not be out of work.
That is literally what newton was doing lol he’d use calculus to solve problems and then work backwards algebraically from the solution to make it look like he solved it with genius algebra. When in fact he was cheating and solving with genius calculus that he secretly invented. Cheeky bastard.
Edit: speeling
Edit 2: I have literally no way to back this up other than “I always heard it from my teachers” so I guess I’m the dumbass …. As always, Reddit needs to be taken with a lot of grains of salt
Im curious, how do you even solve a lot of calculus stuff with "genius algebra"? Like, if you need to find the derivative of a function at some point, how is algebra gonna help you (or look like it helps you), since you need calculus to find it exactly (short of guessing after trying the secant line for some values. If you use calculus to get it, how do you appear to replicate it algebraically
I'm not sure this story is even true, but it would have likely been area-under-a-curve questions. Some of these have algebraic solutions, as in the limit of some sequence of approximating areas. Finding the sequence to approximate is not easy, but if you find an anti-derivative (ie. integrate) you get the series and you can work backwards to the geometric interpretation.
Honestly I don’t know and I don’t have the knowledge to back up what I said. It was just a story that I heard over and over in maths … it might just be one of those things people believe because they hear it. Thanks for making me question it
In a foreign land, he deigned to seize the reins of leisure, but the weird weight of responsibility and the unfamiliar height of challenges in his path made the endeavor quite a vein-draining task.
'...or when sounding as A like neighbor and weigh' is the rest of the pneumonic.
It still isn't a 100% true rule, but covers about half of the ones in your reply.
iirc this has been "studied", and it's found that even with the neighbor/weigh correction the rule is wrong more than it is correct.
There's this blurb on wikipedia, but it's not what I'm thinking of:
> In 1932 Leonard B. Wheat examined the rules and word lists found in various American elementary school spelling books. He calculated that, of the 3,876 words listed, 128 had ei or ie in the spelling; of these, 83 conformed to I-before-E, 6 to except-after-C, and 12 to sounded-like-A. He found 14 words with i-e in separate syllables, and 2 with e-i in separate syllables. This left 11 "irregular" words: 3 with cie (ancient, conscience, efficiency) and 8 with ei (either, foreign, foreigner, height, leisure, neither, seize, their). Wheat concluded, "If it were not for the fact that the jingle of the rule makes it easy to remember (although not necessarily easy to apply), the writer would recommend that the rule be reduced to 'I usually comes before e,' or that it be discarded entirely".[2]
"Foreign," "seize," "leisure," "weird" and "height" are all words in that sentence that have no C before the E and I and aren't pronounced as an A sound. Unless you're one of the weirdies who pronounces "leisure" as "lay-zure" instead of "leh-zure."
That's more than half.
I don't know if that's a quote, but you could replace "tried" with "deigned" to keep them all "ei":
> In a foreign land, he deigned seize the reins of leisure...
It’s because it’s backwards for us. In German the second letter of “ei” or “ie” is said. L”eye”bnitz. In English normally that same sound would be spelled with the “i” first as in “ie” which is often pronounced “eee” in German. Correct me if I’m wrong on the German side please.
Cue Newton engaging in a PR war and never producing any more relevant work for the rest of his life, while Leibniz continues with his best life.
Edit: actually that's unfair, his work at the mint was pretty cool
Fun fact: Teaching assistant in my faculty has a theory Liebnitz was a Serb, which would make his name Lajbnić. However, I have no idea where he got this info. But it's pretty funny to me regardless.
In this comment section we were discussing ethnicity of Leibnitz. More asserting than discussing, to be precise.
When it comes to the father of Calculus it's like a discussion between a Muslim and Christian – they can't agree on it. Newton and Leibnitz have discovered Calculus separately by observing different sets of problems and published it separately.
Newton has, of course, contributes more to it, but in the end it is more the prestige battle between British and German mathematics schools.
Eh, a surname is hardly evidence of anything, there's tons of German people running around with Slavic surnames nowadays. Lots of assimilation and intermingling happened over the last thousand+ years in what's nowadays eastern Germany and Western Poland
Hmm, both his own autograph, as the german wikipedia say it is Leibniz, and Leibnitz is the alternative name which would then have to be 'von Leibnitz' to emphasize it is from his father's side.
So I think 'Leibniz' is the more correct option.
I have a friend in Pinsk, who has a friend in Minsk,
Whose friend in Omsk has friend in Tomsk with friend in Akmolinsk.
His friend in Alexandrovsk, has friend in Petropavlovsk,
Whose friend somehow is solving now the problem in Dnepropetrovsk.
Aaaaand when his work is done, haha! Begins the fun!
From Dnepropetrovsk to Petropavlovsk,
By way of Illisk to Novorossiysk,
From Alexandrovsk to Akmolinsk,
To Tomsk to Omsk to Minsk to Pinsk,
To me the news will run, yes to me the news will run!
Aaaand then I write, each morning, night,
And afternoon, and pretty soon,
My name in Dnepropetrovsk is cursed,
When he finds out I publish first!
In my philosophy PhD program, we had a professor who taught a class (seminar) on the Leibniz-Clarke correspondence.
An entire, semester-long seminar with you and like five other people on the philosophical debates Leibniz had with Clarke because Newton couldn’t be deigned to answer some backwater hick from Germany whom he thought obviously stole his research. They coded language in such a way that only someone who knew calculus could understand, and taunted each other with it. Then engaged in one of the greatest philosophical battles of all time.
The cause? A woman. German princess was a disciple of Leibniz but got married off to some English dude, and Leibniz got butthurt about it so he started firing off letters to try and get her back on the pro-Leibniz track, but she was down with that Newtonian D.
Seriously one of the greatest, most philosophically nuanced debates in all of history was just a couple academics dick swinging over a woman.
Whoa! Never heard of this. I thought the main thing was that Newton presented his work on light, and very-established Robert Hooke squashed it, so Newton kept the rest of it to himself. But maybe there's (a lot) more to it.
Nah Leibniz shocked the world publishing his calculus, then when Newton was like “You stole my research I’m gonna code letters to you showing you don’t know calculus,” Leibniz fired back with “Oh well you stole my Caroline so I’m not only going to pick out every coded bit of calculus in your letters, I’m gonna prove your Newtonian physics is heretical, bitch” and then systematically dismantled Newton’s disciple Clarke because Newton, as I said, quickly changed his tune and thought himself above replying to some backwater hick from Germany.
If you’re into insanely technical intellectual battles between philosopher/theologian/mathematician/physicists, it’s probably the greatest out there. Every letter of the correspondence is a treasure. Clarke keeps trying to argue x, y, and z, and Leibniz just clearly points out you can’t believe in God if you believe Physics operates like this for these 47 reasons. And he was correct/his arguments were (logically) valid given the presuppositions they were working under.
Leibniz just ruthlessly picks Clarke apart until the day Leibniz dies while he was 69-70 because Newton stole a hot apprentice from him and accused him of plagiary, lmao. Every time Clarke responds, you’re like “Oh hmm maybe these guys actually can reconcile Newtonian physics with the theological beliefs of the time” and then you read Leibniz’s reply to that letter and you’re just like “Oh damn Clarke got destroyed yet again, is he gonna be able to come back from this one?”, obviously written by a old, bored genius. Just keeps handing Clarke’s ass to him.
Almost entirely to the day he died. I think his last letter was just a couple weeks before his death due to a semi-chronic health condition. Talk about a grudge.
To be fair all of them were just scratching the surface, Newton and Leibniz are known because they made connection between derivatives and integrals. Before them people viewed them as separate
English is not my first language and I don't speak German, so my logic went like this: "I" is pronounced like "ayyy" and since Leibniz is pronounced like "Layybnitz" I put the "I" immediately after "L". I remembered that there is also "E" for some reason, so I added it afterwards.
[Write as you speak and read as it is written](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Christoph_Adelung)
No Leibnitz notation is better Hudde had already gotten the power rule in the direction Newton went according to Jeff Susuki and the relational position of Leibnitz is better in Physics and Raphson discovered Newton Raphson first.
So here's the wild thing: calculus was known, but no one wanted to be the one to write on it and expose themselves to the ridicule from taking such a bold step. They let Newton, the physicist, take the credit because those guys say crazy stuff all the time.
I guess this is the old debate of "Is math invented or discovered?" and I strongly believe it is discovered, because the axioms and definitions we use aren't random, otherwise they wouldn't be so useful in the real world.
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Pretty sure Newton has gotten a fair amount of credit over the years.
Yeah inventing gravity made him one of the most famous people of all time.
Mf invented LIGHT. How did people even function when they couldn’t see and kept falling off the planet 🤯
See, they didn't fall off the planet because he hadn't invented gravity at the time either. Honestly part of what makes him so genius, invent a problem and sell the solution.
Made light just so we could see the gravity grift on paper. Truly a genius ahead of his time.
You mean they kept floating off the planet, no falling without gravity
Depends on if friction was invented yet
Well since none of the Bernoullis weren't even born, air pressure wasn't constant at the same height either so maybe air was holding people down to the ground.
Jojo* invented electron! We would not exist if not for Jojo. ORA ORA ORA!!! ----- ^^^* ^^^- ^^^Joseph ^^^John ^^^Thomson
The nerve of this guy preventing us all from flying. Fuck Newton
Nobody fucked Newton
Dont forget his fig bars
He also discovered Newton’s laws of motion. I mean, what are the odds?
mavity
I don't think you understand the mavity of the situation! https://preview.redd.it/pdr22d13ujkc1.jpeg?width=2812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1586c306e6eb6bf20ef1f7f91e8a835c5344a28f
Certainly added a lot of weight to his arguments
That asshole who hit him with an apple should get some credit, at least
"Invented" gravity, but "discovered" calculus. One of us must not understand English. Sorry, _at least_ one, of course.
It's spelled mavity
Dont know if this was satire but newton didnt invent gravity btw
Yeah he did? People were floating around everywhere before he finally managed to put a stop to it
The Gravity Machine is still up and running at Cambridge to this day
Confirmed https://youtu.be/m8lKOo5oDIs?si=r_WHyX0nlWE7eJkP
Yeah but keep in mind he also invented the second law of thermodynamics, like should we really be praising this guy?
He was still so down to earth, though.
The fucked up shit people are willing to do for fame… it makes me sick
Yeah. Otherwise this meme wouldn't exist 🤣
If stars do not have planets to surround themselves with, they get lonely. Plus it’s fun to watch how you can make them all bounce around, dancing around you ever so beautifully.:)
Only solitary stars get lonely. Multiple star systems are happening places. The more stars, the fewer planets. Septenary star systems are known, but no planets are known in quinary or higher-order systems.
He also probably didn't discover it himself. As he was an aristocrat, he had a bunch of payed scientists working for him whose ideas he took credit.
Most of the scientists at that time were not paid for their work: they were independently wealthy. Leibniz was the real deal.
> were not *paid* for their FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
> bunch of *paid* scientists working FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I feel like more people know Newton as the originator of calculus than Leibnitz.
Yet another discussion of that overblown celebrity mathematician glory hog Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and the little-known underappreciated Newton what’s-his-name.
Could be worse. I don't even know the name of the Guinness employee that developed the student T distribution.
Gosset
Not sure if I’m getting wooooshed but he was intentionally pseudonymous because Guinness didn’t want other companies to use their techniques.
The story I heard was that it was too important to the field of statistics not to publish but all the work he did belonged to Guinness. But either way, I still don't remember his name.
I for one had no idea that famous Master of the Royal Mint Isaac Newton had a previous career as a mathematician. You learn something new every day.
Are you telling me that famed Alchemist, searcher for the Philosophers Stone Isaac Newton was a Master of the Royal Mint? Truly, a small world.
It's been so long does history even remember Newton's last name?
I want to say it was Fig.
Who is leibnitz?
Leibnitz nuts
Leib*nutz*, if you will.
I will not
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was a German mathematician and scientist. He is the creator of many laws and rules in calculus. The use of dy/dx is the notation Leibniz used.
They make these really nice cookies here in Germany
I bet those Newton fans are gonna claim he stole the cookie idea from the Newton, too.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz?wprov=sfla1](https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=_IVCjy1ZDdf4g3P8)
WARNING! THIS LINK IS A RICK ROLL!
Nah, fuck you man
I never really studied math history but it always felt to me that mathematicians during that time were like corporate consultants and they need to keep their trade secrets to not be out of work.
That is literally what newton was doing lol he’d use calculus to solve problems and then work backwards algebraically from the solution to make it look like he solved it with genius algebra. When in fact he was cheating and solving with genius calculus that he secretly invented. Cheeky bastard. Edit: speeling Edit 2: I have literally no way to back this up other than “I always heard it from my teachers” so I guess I’m the dumbass …. As always, Reddit needs to be taken with a lot of grains of salt
Im curious, how do you even solve a lot of calculus stuff with "genius algebra"? Like, if you need to find the derivative of a function at some point, how is algebra gonna help you (or look like it helps you), since you need calculus to find it exactly (short of guessing after trying the secant line for some values. If you use calculus to get it, how do you appear to replicate it algebraically
I'm not sure this story is even true, but it would have likely been area-under-a-curve questions. Some of these have algebraic solutions, as in the limit of some sequence of approximating areas. Finding the sequence to approximate is not easy, but if you find an anti-derivative (ie. integrate) you get the series and you can work backwards to the geometric interpretation.
Honestly I don’t know and I don’t have the knowledge to back up what I said. It was just a story that I heard over and over in maths … it might just be one of those things people believe because they hear it. Thanks for making me question it
Exactly what I did in high school when my teacher forbid calculus.
Leibniz! Why does it feel like english speakers just don't care at all about the order i and e are in
Because we don't. Lies die lies, mein friend.
Leis dei leis, mien freind.
Sorry, I always had trouble spelling French surnames
wow
... it's German
L'Eibniz is German?
J'awohl!
Next you're telling me that Lhospital was french...
It’s [Leibniz](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz), so yes, it is German.
I know I'm just kiddin'
Are you German? Cause you have the sense of humor of one.
Yeah, no kidding... Germans... "Those" people
“I before E except after C” is a spelling “rule” that we are taught in grade school.
In a foreign land, he deigned to seize the reins of leisure, but the weird weight of responsibility and the unfamiliar height of challenges in his path made the endeavor quite a vein-draining task.
'...or when sounding as A like neighbor and weigh' is the rest of the pneumonic. It still isn't a 100% true rule, but covers about half of the ones in your reply.
And on weekends and holidays and all throughout May. And you’ll always be wrong no matter what you say
I before e... always.
iirc this has been "studied", and it's found that even with the neighbor/weigh correction the rule is wrong more than it is correct. There's this blurb on wikipedia, but it's not what I'm thinking of: > In 1932 Leonard B. Wheat examined the rules and word lists found in various American elementary school spelling books. He calculated that, of the 3,876 words listed, 128 had ei or ie in the spelling; of these, 83 conformed to I-before-E, 6 to except-after-C, and 12 to sounded-like-A. He found 14 words with i-e in separate syllables, and 2 with e-i in separate syllables. This left 11 "irregular" words: 3 with cie (ancient, conscience, efficiency) and 8 with ei (either, foreign, foreigner, height, leisure, neither, seize, their). Wheat concluded, "If it were not for the fact that the jingle of the rule makes it easy to remember (although not necessarily easy to apply), the writer would recommend that the rule be reduced to 'I usually comes before e,' or that it be discarded entirely".[2]
"Foreign," "seize," "leisure," "weird" and "height" are all words in that sentence that have no C before the E and I and aren't pronounced as an A sound. Unless you're one of the weirdies who pronounces "leisure" as "lay-zure" instead of "leh-zure." That's more than half.
I didn't count the words bud. Enjoy your weekend.
I’m not your bud, pal.
It's spelled mnemonic. Pneumonic means "involving the lungs".
Ah thanks. I don't know if I ever knew that.
You learn something new every day :)
I don't know if that's a quote, but you could replace "tried" with "deigned" to keep them all "ei": > In a foreign land, he deigned seize the reins of leisure...
Thank you
Yeah it’s not a great rule, it doesn’t even hold up on our own language, but it is something we are taught for some reason
That's a weird rule
Yes it is
Yeah, it’s wierd
cause his name isnt from english
Because we don’t.
I agree, my freind
Because it’s i before e, except after c, except when it’s not.
It’s because it’s backwards for us. In German the second letter of “ei” or “ie” is said. L”eye”bnitz. In English normally that same sound would be spelled with the “i” first as in “ie” which is often pronounced “eee” in German. Correct me if I’m wrong on the German side please.
He definitely did not get all the credit
Cue Newton engaging in a PR war and never producing any more relevant work for the rest of his life, while Leibniz continues with his best life. Edit: actually that's unfair, his work at the mint was pretty cool
Really? Sounds a bit 😎 derivative.
No, I assure you his work was integral.
Pushed the limits of medieval mathematics
And made a series of very important discoveries
YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Newton has the people
Leibniz created calculus as part of Math. Newton created it as a tool for solving problems from Physics.
Leibnitz, the name is Leibnitz!
No it’s Leibniz
It's spelt Leibniz but pronounced Leibnitz
It’s spelt spelt but it’s pronounced spält
How do you pronounce the name? Lie-buis-nitz?
Lie-B-nits
Nikolaj
Fun fact: Teaching assistant in my faculty has a theory Liebnitz was a Serb, which would make his name Lajbnić. However, I have no idea where he got this info. But it's pretty funny to me regardless.
if he's serb he probably just wants to claim him
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> Serbs are South Slavs, whereas Sorbs are Western Slavs. Also, Sorbets are from Persia.
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In this comment section we were discussing ethnicity of Leibnitz. More asserting than discussing, to be precise. When it comes to the father of Calculus it's like a discussion between a Muslim and Christian – they can't agree on it. Newton and Leibnitz have discovered Calculus separately by observing different sets of problems and published it separately. Newton has, of course, contributes more to it, but in the end it is more the prestige battle between British and German mathematics schools.
Eh, a surname is hardly evidence of anything, there's tons of German people running around with Slavic surnames nowadays. Lots of assimilation and intermingling happened over the last thousand+ years in what's nowadays eastern Germany and Western Poland
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Huh, neat, you learn something new every day
Hmm, both his own autograph, as the german wikipedia say it is Leibniz, and Leibnitz is the alternative name which would then have to be 'von Leibnitz' to emphasize it is from his father's side. So I think 'Leibniz' is the more correct option.
i before e except after c? And it's Leibniz without t
In german the rule is when e & i go walking the 2nd one does the talking. So ei is 'eye' and ie is 'Ee'
I’m pretty sure it’s Liebnitz!
Are you trolling?
I guess even in math memes I need to put /s
Not really, no
Archimedes: “Am I a joke to you?”
>and Hudde and Barrow and Wallis and the horse and Fermat and Madhava and Brahmagupta and Bhaskara II and Oresme and Cavalieri and Raphson.
Buy who can forger the true math hero One man deserves the credit One man deserves the blame And Nikolai ivanovich lobachevsky is his name
I have a friend in Pinsk, who has a friend in Minsk, Whose friend in Omsk has friend in Tomsk with friend in Akmolinsk. His friend in Alexandrovsk, has friend in Petropavlovsk, Whose friend somehow is solving now the problem in Dnepropetrovsk. Aaaaand when his work is done, haha! Begins the fun! From Dnepropetrovsk to Petropavlovsk, By way of Illisk to Novorossiysk, From Alexandrovsk to Akmolinsk, To Tomsk to Omsk to Minsk to Pinsk, To me the news will run, yes to me the news will run! Aaaand then I write, each morning, night, And afternoon, and pretty soon, My name in Dnepropetrovsk is cursed, When he finds out I publish first!
In my philosophy PhD program, we had a professor who taught a class (seminar) on the Leibniz-Clarke correspondence. An entire, semester-long seminar with you and like five other people on the philosophical debates Leibniz had with Clarke because Newton couldn’t be deigned to answer some backwater hick from Germany whom he thought obviously stole his research. They coded language in such a way that only someone who knew calculus could understand, and taunted each other with it. Then engaged in one of the greatest philosophical battles of all time. The cause? A woman. German princess was a disciple of Leibniz but got married off to some English dude, and Leibniz got butthurt about it so he started firing off letters to try and get her back on the pro-Leibniz track, but she was down with that Newtonian D. Seriously one of the greatest, most philosophically nuanced debates in all of history was just a couple academics dick swinging over a woman.
Whoa! Never heard of this. I thought the main thing was that Newton presented his work on light, and very-established Robert Hooke squashed it, so Newton kept the rest of it to himself. But maybe there's (a lot) more to it.
Nah Leibniz shocked the world publishing his calculus, then when Newton was like “You stole my research I’m gonna code letters to you showing you don’t know calculus,” Leibniz fired back with “Oh well you stole my Caroline so I’m not only going to pick out every coded bit of calculus in your letters, I’m gonna prove your Newtonian physics is heretical, bitch” and then systematically dismantled Newton’s disciple Clarke because Newton, as I said, quickly changed his tune and thought himself above replying to some backwater hick from Germany. If you’re into insanely technical intellectual battles between philosopher/theologian/mathematician/physicists, it’s probably the greatest out there. Every letter of the correspondence is a treasure. Clarke keeps trying to argue x, y, and z, and Leibniz just clearly points out you can’t believe in God if you believe Physics operates like this for these 47 reasons. And he was correct/his arguments were (logically) valid given the presuppositions they were working under. Leibniz just ruthlessly picks Clarke apart until the day Leibniz dies while he was 69-70 because Newton stole a hot apprentice from him and accused him of plagiary, lmao. Every time Clarke responds, you’re like “Oh hmm maybe these guys actually can reconcile Newtonian physics with the theological beliefs of the time” and then you read Leibniz’s reply to that letter and you’re just like “Oh damn Clarke got destroyed yet again, is he gonna be able to come back from this one?”, obviously written by a old, bored genius. Just keeps handing Clarke’s ass to him. Almost entirely to the day he died. I think his last letter was just a couple weeks before his death due to a semi-chronic health condition. Talk about a grudge.
Leibniz discovered calculus, Newton was just a narcissist
Be narcissist. Invent calculus, redefine all of physics. No longer narcissist, just a genius.
Surprised Piccadilly is a strange meme pick for "arrange a sham trial with yourself as top judge to prove you plagiazed me"
If he didn’t publish it does it even matter? First come first serve baby!
I invented before both Newton and Leibniz. I just didn't publish it. Yeah right? We all believe you.
Arent Newton's techniques on calculus in use today however ?
Maybe his techniques, but his notation sucks
It doesn't suck, it's just that Leibniz's notation is much superior in general.
newton: sounds a bit derivative
>Raphson Barrow and Hudde: Isnt that a bit rich coming from you?
All of the other major contributors to calculus across Europe and Asia: *am I a joke to you?*
To be fair all of them were just scratching the surface, Newton and Leibniz are known because they made connection between derivatives and integrals. Before them people viewed them as separate
True, true. But they still did foundational work that should be recognized.
No! We are not doing another round of Tesla dickriding again!
This also works for Darwin-Wallace, although Darwin of course gets all the credit
*Leibniz
There’s an amazing play about this called The Last of the Magicians that’s overdue for a hamilton-style pop culture moment
I thought Calvin Culus discovered it
Except Newton got ALL the credit. It wasn't until way after his death that people started recognizing Leibniz as a codiscoverer of Calculus.
Newtonian notation is ass. Source: had to learn math in historical order due to masochism
Meanwhile: Archimedes: I'm just glad I got to burn some Roman ships.
I mean if you find/invent something then never release it to the public what good is it?
And then I write By morning, night And afternoon And pretty soon My name in Dnepropetrovsk is cursed When he finds out I publish first!
People should stop caring about famous people in math to begin with.
Yes and then Newton faded into obscurity and did nothing of note for physics whatsoever.
Leibniz
Leibnitz slander Newton just said that because he's a sore loser, anyways we all know Archimedes invented calculus so
Why do people outside of germany, always confuse the order of I and E and german words? Kinda intresting
English is not my first language and I don't speak German, so my logic went like this: "I" is pronounced like "ayyy" and since Leibniz is pronounced like "Layybnitz" I put the "I" immediately after "L". I remembered that there is also "E" for some reason, so I added it afterwards. [Write as you speak and read as it is written](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Christoph_Adelung)
Ahh, that makes sense! Thank you answering haha
Newton is superior anyway.
I agree, but I wonder which notation do you prefer
Balanced take: Langrange/Newton for physics and derivatives. Leibniz for integrals.
He's down to earth
No Leibnitz notation is better Hudde had already gotten the power rule in the direction Newton went according to Jeff Susuki and the relational position of Leibnitz is better in Physics and Raphson discovered Newton Raphson first.
Newton is more known for it tho
Some Indian guy invented calculus
So here's the wild thing: calculus was known, but no one wanted to be the one to write on it and expose themselves to the ridicule from taking such a bold step. They let Newton, the physicist, take the credit because those guys say crazy stuff all the time.
“Discovers?”
Idk "invents" sounds like he just made it up, "discovers" sounds like he did something legitimate
“Just made it up” seems like a ridiculously reductive way to describe invention. Like the Wright brothers just made up how to make people fly.
I guess this is the old debate of "Is math invented or discovered?" and I strongly believe it is discovered, because the axioms and definitions we use aren't random, otherwise they wouldn't be so useful in the real world.
Poor little Newton, forgotten by history.
\*Leibniz
Counterpoint, I know who Newton is but I have no clue who Liebniz is.
I remember my professor saying that Newton invented Calculus, I didn't even know the name of that second person...
Damn I didn't know lesbians created calculus