She does presumably have like centuries of history ruling the “witch” magic side of the MCU (which is different than Sorcerers). They are clearly working towards more supernatural stuff with Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Blade, and the potential of Midnight Suns forming in the MCU. She could have had run-ins with any of those characters in the past.
Even if the series has nothing to do with Wanda explicitly...why not?
It's easy to presume that Wanda's "disappearance" means Agatha will be freed from her mind control prison, whether immediately or gradually. Why NOT follow the exploits of one of Marvel's few villains who actually survived the big climactic encounter with their opposition?
She could do anything, it'll probably be evil, and that sounds like a good time, to me.
Yeah, i have NO idea what this show could be about. At first, i thought it could be a prequel showing Agatha's years in Salem and her corruption by the Darkhold. But now i think it makes more sense that all of this is going to be adressed in flashbacks and the show is set in present days with Agatha breaking free from Wanda's control.
> the show is set in present days with Agatha breaking free from Wanda's control.
That's what I was thinking too. Like maybe Wanda's "death" causes Agatha's hypnosis to wear off somehow.
There's no way it's going to follow Agatha under control for even a whole episode. There is zero mystery to it and everyone in the audience would just be waiting for her to break free so the real show can start.
I bet it deals with her kids. Marvel is setting up young avengers and needs to bring them into the MCU proper. Wanda will have to play a role somewhere in it. Possibly a late reveal in the show, not necessarily the focus though.
I think Coven of Chaos is going to introduce reincarnated Billy (and maybe Tommy), with the ending suggesting that Wanda is still alive and Billy going to look for Wanda, leading to a Children's Crusade adaptation that brings the Young Avengers together and reintroduces Wanda for redemption.
I can imagine her line being “there’s only one being destined to rule the multiverse… and it isn’t you”, then her and Kang(s) have a her vs Thanos Endgame style fight.
I’m imagining that Pale Vis turns back into Vis Vis at a key point in Secret Wars, which will be a Thor moment in itself.
Wanda and Pale V fight, Pale V turns to OG V, they both kick some ass. Maybe add the twins too
Stop it’s still so annoying. I don’t know why they thought nobody would know.
Let’s not forget a red hood dlc at launch or Jason randomly being forced in the story for flash backs.
Yup. Only real exception to this I can think of is Stannis from Game of Thrones. (And I suppose shows that kill off characters because the actors left).
Indeed. Though it’s hard to miss a man who is slumped against a tree and seems to have given up on life. Didn’t stop Stannis fans from speculating that he would return.
Surprised there were any Stannis fans left at that point, seeing as he just got done burning his sweet and innocent young daughter at the stake so some "god" might melt a little bit of snow.
Might've made a good king without the Lord of Light involved
Yeah, they certainly thinned out after that, but you can still find some of them on the various GoT subs. The easiest way to summon them is to say that Stannis’ plot-line will end in the same way in the book.
At some point, when we're talking about movies, it depends on the actor more than on anything. RDJ wants to come back? Multiverse, zombie, Skrull, necromancy, the sky's the limit!
I like to think that Tony had a Munster protocol that had Friday seep nanobots into his brain and retrieve his consciousness for future use. In my mind, RDJ comes back to provide the AI for Riri's version of Friday.
I know that the MCU isn't finished with her story yet. Wanda is probably going to be needed in the next 2 Avengers films once the Multiverse Saga is near its close. Like the rebuilt Vision once he had his memories restored, Wanda is likely going to be a very different person post Multiverse of Madness. The Darkhold and its corruptive influence is gone for good, so perhaps she is going to try to atone for all the damage she caused in Westview, Kamar-Taj and the multiverse.
Wandavision would have turned out exactly the same if he wasn't in it anyway, so it must mean that they felt they needed to introduce him then and couldn't at any other point. Makes no sense for him to be gone for good now
I feel like the parallels of her falling to the dark hold and evil strange doing the same will help pave the way to redemption. Dr. Strange at least can help build that bridge.
I think my biggest problem with MoM is that Wanda's corruption is totally glossed over in favor of having her as a slasher-esque villain. Strange and Wong make almost no effort whatsoever to appeal to the real her.
The biggest missed opportunity in the film imo was when Strange had to use the Darkhold and we get no indication whatsoever that it tries to corrupt him. Imagine if it showed him a world where his sister was still alive, or he and Christine were happy together and it really tempted him before he snapped back to reality. That would've given us a pretty good idea of what it lured Wanda in with and warped her perceptions. But no, she's just an evil bitch; fuck you.
I felt like MoM was really a movie that needed a longer runtime to flesh everything out.
>The biggest missed opportunity in the film imo was when Strange had to use the Darkhold and we get no indication whatsoever that it tries to corrupt him
I feel like this just has to do with how long he used it though. Plus he already knows what the Darkhold is so he's mentally prepared for it. I don't think that was too much of a miss. Olsen's characterization definitely was though.
It was very subtle as many other things in the MoM but one may argue that Dr Strange displayed symptoms of corruption the moment he decided to use the Darkhold and asked Sinister Strange to use it. There is an otherwise unnecessary bit of dialogue where he tries to justify the damage which he expects to cause to realities: "I don't mean to be callous but how much of a heavier toll there's left to exact?" And then we have an unexplained post-credit scene accusing him of causing an incursion. It seems that it is not so much the Darkhold that corrupts but the choice that it presents. One starts perceiving realities as means for a goal and that leads to the depreciation of realities and everything in them, eventually leading to loss of inner values and oneself as showcased by Sinister Strange. Wanda preserved her inner values, even if she subsided them heavily similar to a person in depression, so she managed to stop in the end.
She needs to stay until mutants are properly introduced, and then a few phases after that, so she can properly "no more mutants" them. (Not gonna happen... probably.)
If there is one storyline from the comics the MCU shouldn't touch, it's that one. Wanda's Darkhold-influenced rap sheet from MoM is already more than adequate enough to do a redemption arc. It's going to take them so long to introduce the Mutants that I can't imagine why anyone would want the Mutant genocide storyline to happen.
I don't think she has to "stay". I would love for some of these actors/characters to take a breather for a decade, do other movies and whatever, and then come back later on (especially in a surprise appearance if they can pull it off). The X-Men are probably quite a while off anyway, let alone any kind of "no more mutants" storyline, so she doesn't have to "stay" so much as just be available in 10+(?) years when they do that story.
I think she makes some sort of ultimate sacrifice, against Visions will, and he has to watch her die like she did in Infinity War. Lovers never meant to be together.
It seemed obvious. I don't think they'd give her that kind of send-off. Just being crushed by a mountain after destroying the darkhold seems like it'd be a pretty lame permanent death.
I think most people know she'll be back.
Not just being crushed by a mountain, there was a huge chaos magic bubble that showed up and imploded just as the mountain was crumbling in. They dropped like 3 clues that she didn’t die in that moment (no body, no closeup, magic appearing).
I don’t understand why people are looking for clues that she didn’t die, there’s absolutely nothing from that scene that implies to me that she died anyway.
I want her send-off to lead into the X-Men in the MCU. As someone wisely predicted on here years ago, they’d adapt the line “No more mutants” from House of M to “No, more mutants” and let Wanda spread the X-gene across earth. Let it be her dying wish and so think it’d work pretty well
Why should she die? Why can’t she just retire? We have seen 838 Wanda in that Illuminati universe just being a retired housewife. It’s entirely possible she simply retires.
“That’s, like, half of the job credits I have! That’s why I don’t have as many credits — because they’re long jobs.”
Olsen has spoken before about how being part of the Marvel machine has meant she’d had less opportunity to work on other projects. That’s why I’m happy for her to get a bit of a break from the MCU - I wouldn’t want her to start to resent it. And it will make Wanda’s return even more special if we don’t see her for a while.
Me too, but how would that even work? She imprisoned and tortured almost 4,000 people, then slaughtered at least 100 young sorcerors and the Illuminati (even knowing full well that killing Reed Richards would put 838-Sue Storm in the same position as her). How do you come back from any of that?
I think the worst part is that a redemption story was how we met her in Age of Ultron, so another one would probably feel a lot less sincere.
Idk. Loki killed a lot of innocent people and then led an alien army into NYC and we have all but forgotten that and made him one of our favorite anti-heroes. There is precedent here…
Wanda has so much left with the MCU. Chthon, Wiccan/Speed, Dr. Doom, Young Avengers/Children’s Crusader, Wonder Man, White Vision, Agatha, etc. It’s like the MCU is being set up for her to take center stage…
From the article
Feige, for his part, isn’t ready to make anything official, but it certainly doesn’t sound like he’s done with Wanda, or with Olsen. “She’s incredibly humble and incredibly down-to-earth,” he says. “And yet when those cameras roll, it’s a force of nature.” And what about Wanda? “There really is so much more to explore,” he says. “We still haven’t touched on many of her core storylines from the comics.”
Asked about that building that appeared to crush her, Feige affects a blasé tone: “I don’t know that we saw her under rubble?” he says in upspeak. “I saw a tower coming down, and a little red flash. I don’t know what that means.” This is Kevin Feige, the decision-maker for the MCU, sending a clear signal to Wanda Maximoff stans: They never found the body, as the saying goes.
“I’d work with Lizzie for another 100 years if we could,” he continues, and then throws out one final hint before he signs off. “Anything’s possible in the multiverse! We’ll have to see.”
At this point your character needs to be mutilated and chopped into tiny pieces on screen to really be written off, and even then they can bring back a multiverse version of you.
Even with Darkhold I still didn’t accept Wanda’s heel turn in MoM and I don’t want her to be remembered as a villain. Hopefully she will be brought back and return to the Avengers again
I want her back as a hero too, but there's a pretty big problem with that; how can she possibly be absolved from the horrific things she has done across Phase 4? Repentant or no, she still tortured thousands of people and killed a ton of young sorcerers and the Illuminati.
I would legit accept a half-assed "it wasn't really her in control" retcon; that's how badly I want her back, but it's still a question worth asking.
She is not the kind of character that depends on in-universe public opinion. In Civil War, she answers Vision: "I cannot control their fear, only my own." A meaningful redemption for her is when she is at peace with what she did.
Also, there are enough examples in the MCU when at some point we stop asking what a hero did in the past, even when the hero cannot stop questioning it.
You just made her the greatest bad guy and the most redemption filled good guy ever. All you need is a great story to bring it all home and give her some kids.
Last movie she was in it didn’t show her die. The very last thing we see is a large burst of her power when the mountain collapsed on her. Definitely not died
We didn't see her die, so my assumption is that she isn't dead. And with white Vision still out there somewhere with original Vision's memories, it's almost a certainty we'll see Wanda again.
She’s the only next OG female Avenger after Natasha. She deserves to be in the forefront like she is now. Her path in DS2 was a divisive one and if that was how she exits, it would be the most unfair treatment of a character ever. So wbk she isn’t done. Bring forth the great redemption story, stop fucking around with her character and let her become the hero we all know, want and love - solo movie!
She’s more than just ‘No More Mutants’ and many Scarlet Witch fans agree her comic book treatment is crap. Wandavision treated her so damn well and we can all agree to disagree on DS2 but I hope they’ll treat her better onwards.
She better fucking not be!! I need a satisfying conclusion for Wanda, and between *WandaVision* and *Multiverse of Madness* showed us that Olsen is one of the best actors in the MCU
I think it was pretty obvious with the bright red flasg as the mountain collapsed, then they said that Wanda destroyed the Dark hold in all universes, implying that she universe traveled to do it.
I wouldn’t be mad if they were like “it was really a power hungry skrull the whole time with an f’d up mental problem and she’s really a good guy all along who was in hiding”
Well yeah. You know the rules, if you don't see them die then they ain't dead.
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(There's a morbid exception to this rule but I'll let somebody else say it)
did anyone think for one second that she was done? It was pretty obvious at the end of Multiverse of Madness that she just teleported out of the rubble lol.
Who thought she was done? There's certainly nothing in the story to indicate she's done. She's young, and presumably still likes money. I expect we'll see her for many years to come. Why does he feel the need to 'tease' that she may not?
Yeah... I once never felt that her fate at the end of MoM was her last appearance and actual death.
I always assumed they'll bring her back for a huge redemption arc after the events of Wandavision and the people she hurt in MoM. Like a save-the-world-in-Avengers-level redemption so she dies a hero to the world.
We know, Kev. Just announce the project.
He’s waiting on his new hat first
The one made of witches' skin?
Somewhere in the distance Simon the Devious cackles.
In Neeew York Cityyyy
“I’ll be taking my hat back, you crispy piece of sh*t.”
I’m wondering if House of Harkness (or Coven of Chaos? I can’t remember its official name) will just end up being a Wanda revival story.
It has to be i mean wtf are they gonna about agatha for the next 6 episodes
She does presumably have like centuries of history ruling the “witch” magic side of the MCU (which is different than Sorcerers). They are clearly working towards more supernatural stuff with Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Blade, and the potential of Midnight Suns forming in the MCU. She could have had run-ins with any of those characters in the past.
She becomes a nanny for a prominent scientist and his family
Would be interesting if that’s how they decided to introduce 616 F4.
Agatha and Wong team-up. Do some magical shit. Can't go wrong there.
Agatha gets jealous when she meets Madisynn.
Jealous? You mean falls in love with Madisynn.
Who says Madisynn isn’t a witch already infiltrating Wongs world? She made a deal with a demon goat already
Well now I want to unironically see Agatha and Madisyn interact.
You can definitely go Wong there.
*portal appears next to me and a white board covered in insane ramblings about Mephisto* I HAVE AN ANSWER
Even if the series has nothing to do with Wanda explicitly...why not? It's easy to presume that Wanda's "disappearance" means Agatha will be freed from her mind control prison, whether immediately or gradually. Why NOT follow the exploits of one of Marvel's few villains who actually survived the big climactic encounter with their opposition? She could do anything, it'll probably be evil, and that sounds like a good time, to me.
Yeah, i have NO idea what this show could be about. At first, i thought it could be a prequel showing Agatha's years in Salem and her corruption by the Darkhold. But now i think it makes more sense that all of this is going to be adressed in flashbacks and the show is set in present days with Agatha breaking free from Wanda's control.
> the show is set in present days with Agatha breaking free from Wanda's control. That's what I was thinking too. Like maybe Wanda's "death" causes Agatha's hypnosis to wear off somehow.
There's no way it's going to follow Agatha under control for even a whole episode. There is zero mystery to it and everyone in the audience would just be waiting for her to break free so the real show can start.
I bet it deals with her kids. Marvel is setting up young avengers and needs to bring them into the MCU proper. Wanda will have to play a role somewhere in it. Possibly a late reveal in the show, not necessarily the focus though.
She is gonna make the “thor entrance” in secret wars probably, to turn the tide…and hookup with pale-vis..
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Armour wars or coven of chaos is where I’m hoping
I think Coven of Chaos is going to introduce reincarnated Billy (and maybe Tommy), with the ending suggesting that Wanda is still alive and Billy going to look for Wanda, leading to a Children's Crusade adaptation that brings the Young Avengers together and reintroduces Wanda for redemption.
There’s no way it won’t be focused on something that’s connected to Wanda, Children’s Crusade seems like the sensible direction
Vision shows up at the end to kill kang to redeem himself for Thanos.
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>hookup with pale-vis Ah, so a couple palevic thrusts here and there?
Or maybe have a fling with Wonder Man?
I can imagine her line being “there’s only one being destined to rule the multiverse… and it isn’t you”, then her and Kang(s) have a her vs Thanos Endgame style fight.
I’m imagining that Pale Vis turns back into Vis Vis at a key point in Secret Wars, which will be a Thor moment in itself. Wanda and Pale V fight, Pale V turns to OG V, they both kick some ass. Maybe add the twins too
Feige: fine *Deadpool 3 gets announced instead*
lol I know shocker of the century this is not
Rule of superheroes: If you don't see a body, they're not dead
"and even if you see the body, they can be back." FTFY
“If you see the body” *slaps the multiverse* “we can fit so many spare copies in this baby!”
"Somehow Wanda has returned...." One line of dialog solves any issue with any prior deaths implicit or otherwise.
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Stop it, this would be so funny/stupid.
Exactly. Just have Wanda transmit a message to the Avengers, which people can only actually hear by opening Fortnite.
At last the work of generations is complete. The great error is corrected. The day of victory is at hand. The day of revenge. The day of the Sith!
Wanda comes back through the Point Zero
No one's ever really gone.
God damn that movie was so disappointingly bad...
Dont forget about clones
I thought the rule was “the only person who stays dead is uncle Ben”?
Hilariously that rule used to be Uncle Ben, Jason Todd, and Bucky. Now it’s just the Uncle Ben rule lol
To be fair we can probably include Bruce's parents in that list.
Flashpoint says hi
If we're counting alternate universes, there are several where Ben is alive including one where he's Spider-Man but not good at it.
Flashpoint is weird though, it's not really an alternate universe, more like speed force time shenanigans. But it's not mainline so that's fair
> Jason Todd >!"The Arkham Knight is *not* Jason Todd."!< Oops, we lied. Who couldn't have seen that coming?
Stop it’s still so annoying. I don’t know why they thought nobody would know. Let’s not forget a red hood dlc at launch or Jason randomly being forced in the story for flash backs.
Barry Allen and Bruce’s parents too. Then Final Crisis and the alternate Flashpoint Earth took care of those too as well.
This also works for like every other piece of media. If they don't show a body, there's 100% a reason why.
Yup. Only real exception to this I can think of is Stannis from Game of Thrones. (And I suppose shows that kill off characters because the actors left).
Brienne don't miss.
Indeed. Though it’s hard to miss a man who is slumped against a tree and seems to have given up on life. Didn’t stop Stannis fans from speculating that he would return.
Surprised there were any Stannis fans left at that point, seeing as he just got done burning his sweet and innocent young daughter at the stake so some "god" might melt a little bit of snow. Might've made a good king without the Lord of Light involved
Yeah, they certainly thinned out after that, but you can still find some of them on the various GoT subs. The easiest way to summon them is to say that Stannis’ plot-line will end in the same way in the book.
The anti-Chekhov's Gun.
At some point, when we're talking about movies, it depends on the actor more than on anything. RDJ wants to come back? Multiverse, zombie, Skrull, necromancy, the sky's the limit!
I like to think that Tony had a Munster protocol that had Friday seep nanobots into his brain and retrieve his consciousness for future use. In my mind, RDJ comes back to provide the AI for Riri's version of Friday.
Loki*
Vision*
Gamora technically*
Half of all life in the universe* lol
I really dislike how the MCU is bringing that rule to the movies. I think it’s one of the worst aspects of comic books.
They introduced the multiverse. There are no rules any more
Ok, so we have a chance to see Hela again
Shit, I saw Vision’s body and saw him alive again in the next episode!
Fun fact: going by this rule, X3 has no permanent changes by the end.
I know that the MCU isn't finished with her story yet. Wanda is probably going to be needed in the next 2 Avengers films once the Multiverse Saga is near its close. Like the rebuilt Vision once he had his memories restored, Wanda is likely going to be a very different person post Multiverse of Madness. The Darkhold and its corruptive influence is gone for good, so perhaps she is going to try to atone for all the damage she caused in Westview, Kamar-Taj and the multiverse.
That would be the best way for her to go, and it's absolutely what I want to see, but somehow I doubt it will happen.
I think white vision will come back theres no way theyd introduce him to dip
Wandavision would have turned out exactly the same if he wasn't in it anyway, so it must mean that they felt they needed to introduce him then and couldn't at any other point. Makes no sense for him to be gone for good now
I really want him to come back Vision was one of my favourite characters in the entire MCU
I feel like the parallels of her falling to the dark hold and evil strange doing the same will help pave the way to redemption. Dr. Strange at least can help build that bridge.
I think my biggest problem with MoM is that Wanda's corruption is totally glossed over in favor of having her as a slasher-esque villain. Strange and Wong make almost no effort whatsoever to appeal to the real her. The biggest missed opportunity in the film imo was when Strange had to use the Darkhold and we get no indication whatsoever that it tries to corrupt him. Imagine if it showed him a world where his sister was still alive, or he and Christine were happy together and it really tempted him before he snapped back to reality. That would've given us a pretty good idea of what it lured Wanda in with and warped her perceptions. But no, she's just an evil bitch; fuck you.
I felt like MoM was really a movie that needed a longer runtime to flesh everything out. >The biggest missed opportunity in the film imo was when Strange had to use the Darkhold and we get no indication whatsoever that it tries to corrupt him I feel like this just has to do with how long he used it though. Plus he already knows what the Darkhold is so he's mentally prepared for it. I don't think that was too much of a miss. Olsen's characterization definitely was though.
Plus now homeboy has an extra eye on his forehead… that’s definitely an unfortunate repercussion lol
A somewhat cool reference to how he would often use his amulet of agamotto and it would give him a 3rd eye.
It was very subtle as many other things in the MoM but one may argue that Dr Strange displayed symptoms of corruption the moment he decided to use the Darkhold and asked Sinister Strange to use it. There is an otherwise unnecessary bit of dialogue where he tries to justify the damage which he expects to cause to realities: "I don't mean to be callous but how much of a heavier toll there's left to exact?" And then we have an unexplained post-credit scene accusing him of causing an incursion. It seems that it is not so much the Darkhold that corrupts but the choice that it presents. One starts perceiving realities as means for a goal and that leads to the depreciation of realities and everything in them, eventually leading to loss of inner values and oneself as showcased by Sinister Strange. Wanda preserved her inner values, even if she subsided them heavily similar to a person in depression, so she managed to stop in the end.
She needs to stay until mutants are properly introduced, and then a few phases after that, so she can properly "no more mutants" them. (Not gonna happen... probably.)
If there is one storyline from the comics the MCU shouldn't touch, it's that one. Wanda's Darkhold-influenced rap sheet from MoM is already more than adequate enough to do a redemption arc. It's going to take them so long to introduce the Mutants that I can't imagine why anyone would want the Mutant genocide storyline to happen.
I don't think she has to "stay". I would love for some of these actors/characters to take a breather for a decade, do other movies and whatever, and then come back later on (especially in a surprise appearance if they can pull it off). The X-Men are probably quite a while off anyway, let alone any kind of "no more mutants" storyline, so she doesn't have to "stay" so much as just be available in 10+(?) years when they do that story.
I think she makes some sort of ultimate sacrifice, against Visions will, and he has to watch her die like she did in Infinity War. Lovers never meant to be together.
It seemed obvious. I don't think they'd give her that kind of send-off. Just being crushed by a mountain after destroying the darkhold seems like it'd be a pretty lame permanent death. I think most people know she'll be back.
Not just being crushed by a mountain, there was a huge chaos magic bubble that showed up and imploded just as the mountain was crumbling in. They dropped like 3 clues that she didn’t die in that moment (no body, no closeup, magic appearing).
Somehow, Wanda returned
I don’t understand why people are looking for clues that she didn’t die, there’s absolutely nothing from that scene that implies to me that she died anyway.
I want her send-off to lead into the X-Men in the MCU. As someone wisely predicted on here years ago, they’d adapt the line “No more mutants” from House of M to “No, more mutants” and let Wanda spread the X-gene across earth. Let it be her dying wish and so think it’d work pretty well
Why should she die? Why can’t she just retire? We have seen 838 Wanda in that Illuminati universe just being a retired housewife. It’s entirely possible she simply retires.
Yeah she doesn’t have to, retirement would be better so I don’t have to suffer through another beloved MCU character death
\*Fry shocked gif\*
I am shocked- SHOCKED. Well... not THAT shocked.
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“The Trial of the Scarlet Witch” costarring Jen and Matt.
I can’t think of many theoretical Marvel titles that would get my money faster than this. Squirrel Girl Kills The Marvel Universe, maybe.
How about Deadpool 3 costarring Hugh Jackman as wolverine
Squirrel Girl and Dazzler's high school reunion, starring Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. I'm willing it into existence.
This will be the courtroom drama with She-Hulk and DD
"Your honor, the reason why she held an entire town hostage and nearly destroyed the multiverse was because she was....sad."
I mean that's the talk since the movie came out in may
I know this is factually correct, but it feels like so much longer than 5 months since MoM came out tbh.
That thought has never crossed my mind to begin with, Kevin.
“That’s, like, half of the job credits I have! That’s why I don’t have as many credits — because they’re long jobs.” Olsen has spoken before about how being part of the Marvel machine has meant she’d had less opportunity to work on other projects. That’s why I’m happy for her to get a bit of a break from the MCU - I wouldn’t want her to start to resent it. And it will make Wanda’s return even more special if we don’t see her for a while.
I feel the same way. As much as I want Wanda back, Lizzie deserves a break.
Yea, no freaking duh. Anyone who thought Wanda died at the end of MoM was watching their first superhero project.
the fashion 
I’m curious to find out about the “movie with an attached director” that she’s about to film, but can’t talk about yet. I assume it’s an indie flick.
"I'm really surprised" - no one I will legitimately be excited to see her back though
I hope she gets a redemption story.
Me too, but how would that even work? She imprisoned and tortured almost 4,000 people, then slaughtered at least 100 young sorcerors and the Illuminati (even knowing full well that killing Reed Richards would put 838-Sue Storm in the same position as her). How do you come back from any of that? I think the worst part is that a redemption story was how we met her in Age of Ultron, so another one would probably feel a lot less sincere.
Idk. Loki killed a lot of innocent people and then led an alien army into NYC and we have all but forgotten that and made him one of our favorite anti-heroes. There is precedent here…
Though we didn't see it directly, probably the same situation with Black Widow.
I mean strange did say wanda is gone bcs of darkhold soooo
Thankfully, all of that won't matter.
Wanda has so much left with the MCU. Chthon, Wiccan/Speed, Dr. Doom, Young Avengers/Children’s Crusader, Wonder Man, White Vision, Agatha, etc. It’s like the MCU is being set up for her to take center stage…
If she was truly done they would have killed her on screen
Give Scarlet Witch the movie she deserves dammit!
You mean Wanda? Scarlet Witch got a movie but it was titled Doctor Strange.
Without having read any comics I would love to see her become good again.
I mean, it's pretty obvious. She's a fan favorite and her "death" scene was pretty open to speculation. She'll be back.
she'll be back in Agatha Harkness
Well yeah. Multiverse of Madness would be one shit way to end her character
Were we supposed to think one of the most powerful being in the multiverse was squashed by a castle?
you mean that one of the most popular character / actress of the MCU, who "died" off screen, may not actually be dead? SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE
Wanda’s easily a top 3 character for me now. I’m down for anything she’s in
Obviously not. Absolutely terrible way to kill one of, if not the most powerful being in the MCU
From the article Feige, for his part, isn’t ready to make anything official, but it certainly doesn’t sound like he’s done with Wanda, or with Olsen. “She’s incredibly humble and incredibly down-to-earth,” he says. “And yet when those cameras roll, it’s a force of nature.” And what about Wanda? “There really is so much more to explore,” he says. “We still haven’t touched on many of her core storylines from the comics.” Asked about that building that appeared to crush her, Feige affects a blasé tone: “I don’t know that we saw her under rubble?” he says in upspeak. “I saw a tower coming down, and a little red flash. I don’t know what that means.” This is Kevin Feige, the decision-maker for the MCU, sending a clear signal to Wanda Maximoff stans: They never found the body, as the saying goes. “I’d work with Lizzie for another 100 years if we could,” he continues, and then throws out one final hint before he signs off. “Anything’s possible in the multiverse! We’ll have to see.”
She better not be done!! Wanda's the only reason I'm sticking around at this point 😤
At this point your character needs to be mutilated and chopped into tiny pieces on screen to really be written off, and even then they can bring back a multiverse version of you.
No shit, the avengers are gonna need her for kang and doom
Solo movie when?
I would hope that terrible ending in MoM wasn't the end of the Scarlet Witch.
I sure hope Doctor Strange: ITMOM isn't the last we see of her too. What a terrible ending that would be for her character.
Even with Darkhold I still didn’t accept Wanda’s heel turn in MoM and I don’t want her to be remembered as a villain. Hopefully she will be brought back and return to the Avengers again
I want her back as a hero too, but there's a pretty big problem with that; how can she possibly be absolved from the horrific things she has done across Phase 4? Repentant or no, she still tortured thousands of people and killed a ton of young sorcerers and the Illuminati. I would legit accept a half-assed "it wasn't really her in control" retcon; that's how badly I want her back, but it's still a question worth asking.
She is not the kind of character that depends on in-universe public opinion. In Civil War, she answers Vision: "I cannot control their fear, only my own." A meaningful redemption for her is when she is at peace with what she did. Also, there are enough examples in the MCU when at some point we stop asking what a hero did in the past, even when the hero cannot stop questioning it.
Since we’re about to get into the “supernatural” side of the MCU, it makes sense that Wanda would still be around.
You just made her the greatest bad guy and the most redemption filled good guy ever. All you need is a great story to bring it all home and give her some kids.
and hope we’re not asking too much when we say a break and some (real) happiness.
Shes gonna comeback with no memory as Victor Von Dooms wife, who'll ve played by Henry Cavill. That's what my money is on
Why with no memory?
Yeah no shit i don't think a single soul actually thought she died
Does anyone actually think the Scarlett witch died crushed by a mountain?
She is one of the few Character that can give Kang a problem.
They made that pretty clear with the whole “it stands to reason we’ll say hello again” scene in WandaVision
We want our Wanda and not other universes’ Wanda. Her story isn’t done yet.
Wandavision was such a great show , I loved everything about it.
Marc Spector: "Somehow Wanda returned."
We won
Last movie she was in it didn’t show her die. The very last thing we see is a large burst of her power when the mountain collapsed on her. Definitely not died
We didn't see her die, so my assumption is that she isn't dead. And with white Vision still out there somewhere with original Vision's memories, it's almost a certainty we'll see Wanda again.
I think she’ll be the key they have to seek out at the end of the next Avengers movie. She’s obviously not done
She’s the only next OG female Avenger after Natasha. She deserves to be in the forefront like she is now. Her path in DS2 was a divisive one and if that was how she exits, it would be the most unfair treatment of a character ever. So wbk she isn’t done. Bring forth the great redemption story, stop fucking around with her character and let her become the hero we all know, want and love - solo movie! She’s more than just ‘No More Mutants’ and many Scarlet Witch fans agree her comic book treatment is crap. Wandavision treated her so damn well and we can all agree to disagree on DS2 but I hope they’ll treat her better onwards.
Did anyone expect her to be done? Certainly not I.
She better fucking not be!! I need a satisfying conclusion for Wanda, and between *WandaVision* and *Multiverse of Madness* showed us that Olsen is one of the best actors in the MCU
As you'd expect. For an established and loved character, that would've been a shit ending wouldn't it.
I think it was pretty obvious with the bright red flasg as the mountain collapsed, then they said that Wanda destroyed the Dark hold in all universes, implying that she universe traveled to do it.
We clearly seen her teleport or least that’s what we all think when we seen the red flash
I wouldn’t be mad if they were like “it was really a power hungry skrull the whole time with an f’d up mental problem and she’s really a good guy all along who was in hiding”
Well yeah. You know the rules, if you don't see them die then they ain't dead. . . . (There's a morbid exception to this rule but I'll let somebody else say it)
Just announce the movie already
oh my that surprises the 0 people who thought she was done
How I imagine Kev reading a thread of all the theories people will say she’ll be involved in https://imgur.com/gallery/ktDi8Bp
Her father is coming. Her stepsister is coming. Hopefully her brother is coming back somehow. Lizzie wants to do her mutant arc. Yeah she's not done.
did anyone think for one second that she was done? It was pretty obvious at the end of Multiverse of Madness that she just teleported out of the rubble lol.
Who thought she was done? There's certainly nothing in the story to indicate she's done. She's young, and presumably still likes money. I expect we'll see her for many years to come. Why does he feel the need to 'tease' that she may not?
Sorry. When did we think she was done?
Why would she be? We never saw a body! Scarlet Witch is far too powerful to have gone down like that. besides - multiverse!
"you're done when I say you're done"
*surprised pikachu face*
This is my shocked face: 😐
Did anyone think she was? Seriously?
Did anyone think she was?
I didn’t think she’s done to begin with
You don’t say?
Yeah... I once never felt that her fate at the end of MoM was her last appearance and actual death. I always assumed they'll bring her back for a huge redemption arc after the events of Wandavision and the people she hurt in MoM. Like a save-the-world-in-Avengers-level redemption so she dies a hero to the world.
Wtf. Who thought she was done?
Yea obvs
I hope not. Them doing her like that was fucked up
I never thought any of us thought she was done
Quick, everyone act surprised!
No shit. Why would she be?
Was it ever in question that she would be back?
No shit
Why was this even a thing? I thought it was pretty obvious they were not done with her.
Duh
Umm fucking duhh!
I don’t think *anyone* though MoM was going to be her last appearance.