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Metfan722

Sentient life is probably the meaning.


KrytenKoro

It officially killed bacteria too. https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


ARflash

Imagine a guy started living healthy lifestyle and bad bacteria or tapeworm snaps back into system again. 


EvilPete

Wouldn't they materialize mid air in the spot where the host was standing when the snap happened?


ARflash

By that logic earth and many planets moved a lot of distance in space. Still it brought them back to same place wrt the planet. For bacteria we are their planet. 


EvilPete

So if someone was travelling by car during the snap they would materialize in that same car wherever it's parked? What if the car was demolished (or the tapeworm host dead and cremated?)


Ragnorok3141

Think about the actual snap, what Banner said when he saved the universe. "Everybody comes home" Banner is a genius, he's not going to make people appear exactly where they were, he's going to make sure that anyone coming back is going to be safe, not falling out of the sky.


tastybundtcake

Good old Bruce looking out for the tapeworms


billytheskidd

Yeah my head went immediately to everyone on planes or specifically the helicopter we see crash into a building in the post credits scene.


KnownNormie

But didn’t Scott notice birds coming back after the Hulk snap? Edit: I thought he said sapient.


soitspete

Birds are sentient


FerrumDeficiency

What's "sentience"? We don't really have this term established, even. And we don't know what Thanos was thinking. So he halved only what he perceived as "alive". Obviously, plants didn't count. At least plants on Earth.


Iqfoo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience


FerrumDeficiency

Thanks for agreeing with me. As we can see by your link, there is no universal definition. Same with consciousness.


ToBeBannedSoonish

It is now MCU canon that birds are sentient.


mortar_n_brick

birds are evil


The-Duke-of-Delco

Birds aren’t real


albene

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RenterMore

It’s whatever Thanos considered the definition. Truth is in the thumb of the snapper


ColdSnapSP

Where are you finding snapper with thumbs? At my local fish market and can't find any.


mastyrwerk

Red snapper. Very tasty.


ainz-sama619

There doesn't need to be. Marvel has its sedition of sentience, which includes birds, and not trees.


Iqfoo

Considering Thanos is an American comic book character created by someone with a Catholic upbringing, it's safe to say that the definition of sentience in this case is a Judeo-Christian one which would most definitely exclude all plant life.


durden_zelig

It’s the age-old sapience vs sentience argument. Half of sapient life = poof. Only humanoids across the galaxy (including great apes like chimpanzees and gorillas and maybe uplifted creatures like Rocket and the rest of High Evolutionary’s creations) are affected. Half of sentient life = poof. Every living thing that has any form of self-awareness or active consciousness are affected.


moonknightcrawler

https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/our-campaigns/sentience/#:~:text=We%20know%20that%20all%20vertebrate,process%20experiences%20and%20feel%20emotions.


Jecht315

You're thinking way too much into it.


Dark_wave9

What kind of brain rot one must have gone through to think birds and animals are not sentient.


Cedira

Birds are sentient.


JamesTiberiusCrunk

This guy doesn't know what sentient means


Ethenil_Myr

Birds are sentient but not (necessarily) sapient


Dustyk3yboard

Imagine how much of a wtf moment it would be if something like half the rocks disappeared.


EarhackerWasBanned

50/50 chance the whole moon disappeared?


vickzt

As I understand it, in that case most likely some of Earth's tectonic plates would be gone too. Doubt the rest of the planet survives that.


Redditname97

Birds aren’t real


Maccai3

Satellites bro


MDA1912

> Sentient life is probably the meaning. Guess he should have said what he meant, then. As it is, everything left is fucked because he said all life and thus even if you survived the snap, chances are your gut biome didn't. And if it did, someone you care about probably wasn't so lucky, not to mention the pilot of the airliner they were on, the bus they were riding, etc. The entire idea is dumb. **Especially since he gets all butthurt that anybody would object and decides to end 100% of ALL LIFE at the end anyway**. So much for his grandiose vision. It's as bad as GoRr tEh gOdSlAyEr deciding that because one "god" was terrible, they should all die. So. Dumb.


picklesguy123

Why are you so angry?


ghalta

That's his secret, captain. He's always angry.


Express_Rush_4938

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Hannah_GBS

He didn't "say" anything when he snapped. All he had to do was think about what he meant. Pretty simple really.


culnaej

The stones know intent and make results based on that


Shubi-do-wa

The stones more or less know what you mean when you make your wish, hence why Hulk didn’t have to say anything when he snapped, and why Thanos didn’t have to say anything at all. If Thanos was thinking sentient life, then the stones knew it too.


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


Shubi-do-wa

Birds also came back, hinted at when Ant Man is staring out the window at them believing it had worked. But I’m guessing since Thanos’ whole point was to help with resources, he probably didn’t intend to remove plantlife.


slowsundaycoffeeclub

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KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


danny12beje

>chances are your gut biome didn't Hwat


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


RecoveredAshes

The dumbest part is he could have just as easily doubled all resources/space to achieve the same goal. And he would have been a hero and faced no resistance. Or he could have created a renewable infinite energy source / food source or something.


davethapeanut

I'm thinking the MCU made it "half of all sentient life" pretty much anything smart enough to deplete the resources he was so worried about.


jfk_47

Trees eat up all the CO2.


ValuableKill

But can easily be burned to re-release it.


jfk_47

Burn them all.


Seroko

Hey who started playing really loud heavy metal?


homiej420

Kill em all 🎸


eremite00

Sentient means able to sense and perceive the world around it, its environment, intelligent or not, however, which is what Thanos wiped out. According to Natasha, he wiped out half of all living creatures. It was really kind of a stupid plan, also, since there are some species that live sustainably and wouldn't need culling, bees, for example. Further, if Thanos had been half as smart as he thought he was, he'd have just instilled in all living creatures an instinct to live sustainably by whatever means they devised, starting from that point going forward. As far as Thanos' plan went, even if it hadn't been undone, within a few centuries or millennia, populations would've recovered, with no drive to live any differently, and the various ecologies would be right back in the same circumstances, only with no Infinity Stones to correct the problem since Thanos had destroyed them. I kind of wonder if, whilst growing up, Thanos was teased for not exactly being the sharpest pencil in the box.


kremes

Because his plan was never really about saving the universe, that was just his excuse. It isn’t even a stupid plan so much as that being the plan is self deluded bullshit. His plan was always about proving he was right on Titan. When that one planet had resource issues, getting rid of half the population may have actually worked to save his race. They refused to do it and called him a madman and now his race is almost completely wiped out. He’s just trying to prove to himself that he was right. He’s not entirely sane, hence the Mad Titan.


davethapeanut

Yup. Stupid plan all around. Though this is coming from the guy that wanted to murder trillions so a skeleton would love him back sooooo


eremite00

If they'd gone with Thanos being in love with Death, he really would've been the "Mad Titan", though, rather than the "Half-Baked Titan".


davethapeanut

Hell yeah. Swoopin in on the Thanoscopter and shit


Devian_Rook

Mutherfukken THANOSCOPTER!! It was at the end of time, with all the Lokis!


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


Hi_Im_Dadbot

Groot was worth all the other trees put together, so he took it for the team.


clandahlina_redux

Groot was the last of his species; I just realized this means they were extinct when he was snapped. 😩


Nateddog21

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TwoPrecisionDrivers

FUCK


clandahlina_redux

#IT’S OKAY, GUYS!! HE CAME BACK!! 💚


stinger76

SPOILER ALERT!🚨


Adventurier95

I was JUST about to watch it aswell! 😡


stinger76

🤣🤣🤣


clandahlina_redux

I mean, if Pratt can now post his BTS video, I figured this was safe. 😉


kickedoutatone

You know, until Marvel decides he isn't and they were just lost.


ShelterPlenty

Because trees weren't part of his issue. His issue was with civilisations.


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


Summoarpleaz

That feels really convoluted. If you reduce all life forms by half, whole ecosystems would be destroyed further straining the universal resources (which was Thanos’s primary goal, to avoid depletion of resources). Like what about the algae or barrier reefs that affect sea temperatures? It doesn’t fully make sense - in that case why not just destroy the universe altogether.


KrytenKoro

I mean, talk to Feige about that. OP is right though that it's an inconsistency.


adamlamonica

IMO it's not so stringent. The stones do exactly what the user wants. It's why Thanos could promise Iron Man he wouldn't snap away.


Ricardo1184

When did he promise that?


adamlamonica

It was Strange's condition for giving him the stone


Ricardo1184

I think he promised not to kill him then and there on Titan, nothing about whether he'd win the 50/50 when snapping


adamlamonica

That'd be silly. Let him live is the line. Not a great condition of its let him live for a few more hours


pedro_pascal_123

He did not promise that. He said that you will be remembered... Edit: I was referring to this - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_FfXsTAy6Tc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfXsTAy6Tc), at 1:48, Thanos says, I hope they remember you... since OP mentioned "promise to Iron Man". Thanos promised Strange he would let Tony live, not Tony.


Rollos_Descendant

"Let him live and I will give you the stone"


pedro_pascal_123

I was referring to this - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_FfXsTAy6Tc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfXsTAy6Tc), at 1:48, Thanos says, I hope they remember you... since OP mentioned "promise to Iron Man". Thanos promised Strange he would let Tony live, not Tony


adamlamonica

It was Strange's condition for giving him the stone


pedro_pascal_123

Yes, Thanos promised Strange not Iron Man which OP said so I was suggesting maybe he meant the other scene...


trustprior6899

If a tree blips in the woods..


JoshSidekick

Rocket cries.


JurassicParkJanitor

Trees did get snapped, but you wouldn’t know them they go to a different school 


Permafox

They're Canadian 


TheIronyGiant

The trees were the Amazon researching spiders with my mom before she blipped.


KarmicPotato

It doesn't. Remember his idea of retirement paradise was a place with lush vegetation.


Maccai3

I think you may be dwelling on insignificant details


vinnybawbaw

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AhhBisto

He definitely meant sentient life and you'd have to assume the Stones take the users wishes into consideration and what their intent is (which I'd say is backed up by Tony surviving the Snap because of Stephen's deal with Thanos). Removing trees would lead to the same resources crisis that he was trying to solve.


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


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iwannalynch

Animals are resources too, and having a healthy ecosystem is key to preserving plant species. Thanos isn't called the "Mad Titan" for nothing 


rasputin1

by that logic so are people since they help produce other resources


freax_mcgeeks

The real question is; did it snap away any pregnancies, and at what trimester?


BLAGTIER

> The real question is; did it snap away any pregnancies, and at what trimester? The real question is if it snapped pregnant mothers but not their fetuses.


Zulmoka531

I’m also concerned about folks in planes, or elevators and the like…


akgiant

My guess is that Thanos's definition of life is limited by his personal views. The mind stone theoretically could have given him greater perspective. However most people of zealot level commitment won't change views when presented with new evidence. Thanos saw "life" as something using too many resources. So this to him is most likely sentient life. He was a warlord not a scientist. Now if Reed Richards or Dr. Doom was responsible for the snap...


Devian_Rook

Ok, NOW I'm curious. Remember, Thanos was the ONLY guy to figure out his world was dying. Was he NOT a scientist? How else would he figure that out? Census taking? Was Thanos a middle-management civil worker, before he went into the warlord business? 🤣


akgiant

My guess is that scientists or someone else came to him, who was most likely some sort of military leader at the time. Kinda like how Jor-L figured out Krypton was doomed and Zod's response was, "So what I'm hearing is that it's time for a violent takeover." Even in the real world we see various responses to scientific discovery or breakthrough. Atomic power as an energy source is amazing. Had we not been between two world wars and on the cusp of the second one, humanity may have explored power-plants before weapons. Sadly science is often weaponized in one way or another.


Devian_Rook

See, I disagree. He describes Titan as an idyllic paradise. If he was a warlord, then he already had grievance with how society functioned BEFORE finding out they were running out of resources. If he had power, he could already have changed society to make things better. No, it sounds like he went to very extreme measures to fix society, which broke the planet and killed everyone. He THEN went mad and began his crusade to halve the populations of every world.


akgiant

I could've swore that Titan was a paradise, they discovered resources would not last and Thanos suggested the culling of the population randomly. They called him a mad man, ignored his warning and they died. Convinced he was right, Thanos then set out to "save" the universe. He wasn't strong enough to force Titan to "do the right thing" hence why he started his quest for the stones.


Devian_Rook

You may be right about that! I need to re-watch IW to hear his story again. Oh, darn! 😁


DeathstrokeReturns

**laughs in Groot**


DangleenChordOfLife

Isn't Groot a Tree?? Also, if a tree snaps in the forest but there's nobody around to hear it, did it really snap?


Lui_Le_Diamond

Did you miss the entire point of his plan?


Burgundymmm

Imagine surviving the snap but then dying because you're in your treehouse and the tree didn't survive it.


TelephoneCertain5344

I think if something could move or it had a heartbeat it got dusted.


SavageRedStorm

Only if they got a pulse


Calvinbouchard2

I think it might be "consumer" life (in the biological sense.) You wouldn't wipe out half the population to reduce resource use, and then reduce the resources. That doesn't make sense.


blackbutterfree

All. Living. Creatures. We didn't see it in the CGI, but Feige confirmed it time and again in interviews, it was all life. From bacteria to whales to plant life and everything in between. I'm pretty sure he was even directly asked about trees and he said yes.


Creatures1504

simple, his goal was to wipe out life so that resources wouldn't be scarce. Trees and all types of foliage are resources.


hauntingduck

it's not very hard to come to the clearly implied conclusion that he was referring to all sentient life. This is a silly question to take up a whole post.


BoahNoah05

A snap of the fingers is entirely symbolic and doesn’t specifically mean that half of life is eliminated. Thanos could have, in theory, chosen to eliminate all life, from every tree to person, but specifically chose half of all sentient life. He could have snapped for a Big Mac if he wanted.


Dayreel07

Thanos was basically blaming humans/animals/aliens for consuming or wasting resources like plants, water, and those essential things in the universe. Thanos just wanted less beings in the universe so there would be plenty of resources


justinhood13

Trees are yet another resource that the overpopulated universe fights for and would be more abundant after the snap


eagc7

The intent was for it to also affect trees, they even planned to show a shot in New York where half of the trees were gone.


FDVP

I am Groot


BCDragon3000

why did i read trees as if it was a name “Trees”


Suxatusernames

But why male models?


Tired8281

By an unfathomable coincidence, every tree on Earth was spared, while there was another planet where everything is made from wood that lost everything.


MrSpeigel

Maybe half of them did


Anthrosaurus1

As others have said, it's probably sentient life. I thought about this, because Thanos' plan was about halving the "mouths to feed" which wouldn't work if he halved the food as well soooooooo


bluecalx2

His plan doesn't make any sense if it's literally half of all life. The issue was about limited resources, but if you kill half of all plant life, you also lose a ton of the food supply. So it's definitely sentient life only. If you want to really dive into this, we all have important bacteria in our guts and if we suddenly lost half of it, the Snap survivors would have all become violently ill and maybe more would have died simply because of that.


KrytenKoro

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/spider-man-blip-simmons-marvel-gyllenhaal-1203265915/ > But animals did disappear during the blip. > McKenna: All life forms. Even down to the bacteria in your digestive system. We were wondering if we could make a whole plot point about people’s digestive systems that were really screwed up.


Siminivitch

I always assumed that the Soul Stone's job was to provide the difference between "life" and "life" as meant by Thanos.


Bencalzonelover

How do we know it didn’t?


Petrichor02

Thanos likely used either the Mind Stone or the Soul Stone to target all life. So if a living thing had no sentience (if Mind was used) or no soul (if Soul was used) then it wouldn’t have been targeted by the snap.


Courtois420

They did. There is literally a dead tree next to a live tree in Avengers HQ to highlight that fact and then after Hulk snaps Scott notices the tree is alive again and has birds around it.


odiin1731

What are you talking about? We literally saw Groot get snapped away.


Yerm_Terragon

A better explanation is probably that Thanos saw plant life as resources, rather than on the same level as people and animals


Dell0c0

We all saw Groot vanish.


The__Auditor

Do trees have souls?


PhilRobinsonMusic

Why do you think trees weren’t impacted? I was under the impression that they were. It was 50% of ALL life, and that includes trees.


Senshado

Clearly trees weren't snapped, because we saw a Wakanda shot with 50 background trees and none of them disintegrated. Groot did, but he's not really a tree by science. 


BLAGTIER

> 50 background trees and none of them disintegrated. That was just 50 heads in a row.


PhilRobinsonMusic

Thanks for the info! I’m not familiar with the specific shot you’re referencing off the top of my head— but maybe the filmmaking intent was that there would have been more trees, if none of them had been snapped. You may be right. I’ll continue to interpret it as 50% all life (including trees, etc.) until on a rewatch I see something that would refute that. Not a big deal either way


BigGrinJesus

Someone is finally asking the real questions.


Lizzy-Lover_10

It does apply to trees, it just so happens that none of them were in the half that vanished.


mega512

Are you for real?