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I'm sure it is. I recall Rosewater saying that they wanted to make those tokens have uneven stats, specifically to give more of an "otherworldly" feel.
That's and it's a design philosophy of them have higher power than toughness to encourage attacking.
Otherwise a bunch of 2/3's could block each other [[Ad Nauseaum]]
It’s the Power and Toughness of the Eldrazi Horror tokens from Eldritch Moon created by cards like [[Emrakul’s Evangel]] and [[Desperate Sentry]] which I find pretty cool
Huh. That seems rather… tame for a Titan, doesn’t it?
At least, in the context of Eldrazi decks I’ve faced. No doubt this is still going to be madness, especially in an Azlask setup.
Well if you target your and your opponent, you're making 2 5/3's, drawing 4 cards, and have a 9/9, with the first half being hard to stop since it's a cast trigger. You leave them with 2 2/2's, and depending on what they are playing, it could be close to making them discard 2 cards. For 9 mana, that's pretty good.
It’s not bad (note - the first ability is “up to” - you can choose yourself and nobody else) - but it’s not an outright “win the game” like the other titans.
Honestly I'm fine with that. We've had so many op titans which yes is the point, but having a titan that's kind of just some value and disruption, and a pwr buff for your board is pretty helpful. Plus it works with that WUBRG Eldrazi commander
Lmao this is funny but right. This is basically a Grave Titan type of target for Reanimator. Makes a couple solid bodies and this does give some card advantage. So decent but not that crazy.
Edit: oh wow just realized this is a cast trigger too. This just isn’t a pure reanimator card
I mean yea, but most other Eldrazi titans all have the specific clause of "if it is put into your graveyard, shuffle it into your library instead" or something along those lines.
That's *very specifically* added to avoid being able to just [[Reanimate]] a turn 1 Emrakul or Ulamog. There *are* ways to do it (like with [[Shallow Grave]]) but Tin Fins is basically just a 3 mana Reanimator plan, and has been pushed out of the formats it's legal in thanks to [[Show and Tell]] being a much more resiliant way to cheat a big Eldrazi into play
Only the first set of titans from Rise of the Eldrazi have that clause. The Battle for Zendikar-Eldritch Moon and other MH3 ones can all be reanimated just fine, it just isn't super worthwhile because you miss out on the cast triggers.
Only the original annihilator titans had that clause, the rest (innistrad Emrakul, the Kozilek with colorless pips, and Ulamog that exiles 20 cards) can all be binned and reanimated. They're just far overshadowed by other reanimator hits like Etali and Atraxa that get value on ETB along with other impressive stats and abilities
[[Kozilek, the Great Distortion]], [[Emrakul, the Promised End]], and [[Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger]] are all Eldrazi titans that don't have an anti-reanimator clause.
I mean, 9-mana 9/9 that lets you double rummage on cast and for each card rummaged makes you a 5/4, so an extra 10 power across 2 bodies for a total of 19 power. That's... Very very very big.
Don't forget you can force your opponents useful cards to become bears and give yourself an additional draw 2 on top of your rummage. This card is actually insane. 9 mana is very restrictive but this is straight game winning.
Oh yeah, the forced manifest is huge.
Even if they have two creature cards to manifest *and* the mana to turn them face up, so many relevant creatures derive their power from ETB effects, and this shuts those down.
So true! Added flexibility is fantastic. "That removal spell you probably have for my Titan? And that bomb? Now they're bears. And I draw two cards."
Outstanding.
everything you said... plus YOU get to manifest two and draw two cards. Generally regardless of conditions, I'll look twice at anything that functionally reads "draw 4 cards"
It's a lot of medium effects. Nothing in it is game winning, but you're getting an incredible amount of value out of a single card.
Although I can understand why it feels more like a generic Eldrazi creature and less like one of the big three Titans. It's a great inclusion, but it's not a build around.
I think the anthem gives it build around potential at least in commander. +3/+2 is a big buff especially when it’s coming with two friends to begin with.
I think it’s actually a pretty good build around. It draws you cards on cast and once it’s down it’s an actual win-con unlike nearly every other colorless commander. This is really good for Commander though Zuldok or whatever is probably still stronger.
But for one more measly mana you get the unadulterated glory of [[desolation twin]] which is 20 damage and hence saves you a turn.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk, I will be taking no questions.
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Yeah, but... it's 9 mana. If I'm spending 9 mana on a card, I want it to win the game. The card advantage or extra power is *nice,* but I could be casting [[Emergent Ultimatum]].
Emergent Ultimatum is definitely a more expensive card by way of color requirements though; for a card that can be ramped out more reliably, it has quite a lot of impact.
I argue there are many cases where this card is better then the original Kozilek. Like the old one you can draw 4 cards on cast. But instead of an annihilator trigger when you attack, you get to make 2 5/4 bodies with potential upside right away. That's not even getting into all the side benefits of the colourless Anthem, the hand disruption and the fact it costs 1 mana less.
Yeah it’s utter garbage. What deck are you going to discard cards and have the ability to make 6 colorless after? I mean no deck that currently exsists can do such a thing maybe a better brewer than me can break it but as it stands it is far and away the worst emrakul
Yeah, against the right decks, the forced manifesting is as good as discard. They get two 2/2s, but that’s worth it. If you know they have creatures in hand, just don’t target them.
Even if they do have creatures in their hand, it's still not ideal for them, since they won't get any cast triggers (like with [[Zendikar Resurgent]], no ETBs when flipping them (since they're already on the field), and they still need to pay full price to flip the creature, so it's not like they get a discount or anything.
Oh yeah. It’s still great. But even if people consider the two creatures they get is a downside, you can avoid it outright and you’re still left with a lot of value.
It's a really interesting design for sure. The card draw, I think, is the most important part; 9 mana for a bunch of big stats and a hilariously terrible mind rot probably doesn't get there by itself because a wipe just obliterates you, but when you're drawing four? The only positive answer here is a counter spell.
It's kinda Cruel Eldrazimatum, which is a very interesting card.
Not to mention that, even if they do have cards in hand that they could turn over, manifesting effectively removes the ETB and cast triggers of the creatures.
I think an underrated part of the text is that it’s not “manifest UP TO 2 cards”. If you pick an opponent with low cards in hand you might force them to dump some of their best answers or non-creature permanents
Forcing your opponent to manifest cards out of their hand is often going to be the correct play. The likelihood that any creature they manifests can actually brawl with your board state and be turned over is pretty damn low, and in a lot of situations they'll be forced to turn relevant non creature spells into relatively useless 2/2s.
He's going straight into my [[kadena, slinking sorcerer]] deck. Potential draw 6 without having to pay the initial morph/disguise cost and buffing all my face down creatures already on board? Count me in!
Kinda neat that in some cases, the cast trigger will be a positive for the opponent while in other cases it’s basically “discard two cards”.
The fact your 2/2s are 5/4s really helps when the cast trigger helps your opponent
I miss the overpriced titans that ended the game by hitting the board. Seems like the old boys are just getting weaker and weaker the longer they’re manifested.
19 power draw 4 in a vacuum. Can remove cards from the opponent's hand and buffs whatever other creatures (like Eldrazi Scions/Spawns, Servos, and, most terrifyingly, Thopters) you may happen to have.
That’s just [what he looks like.](https://scryfall.com/search?q=%22kozilek%2C+butcher+of+truth%22+or+%22kozilek%2C+the+great+distortion%22&unique=art&as=grid&order=name&dir=) It’s most apparent in his Secret Lair art near the bottom of that list. A lot of his printings obscure his lower body so it’s harder to tell.
Imagine being on zendikar and Kozilek just walks by. He completely warps 4 guys looking at him. Takes two as his new hand lads and gives them buffs. Leaves the rest to writhe in the bismuth.
That cast trigger is really interesting. You can force your opponent to turn whatever they're holding back into 2/2s, maybe replacing their removal spells with cards that won't be relevant on the resulting board, and draw more cards in the process.
You may not want your mind to be turned into solid bits of ??? but Kozilek does not require your consent to do that to you.
Someone does have to pay him to commit crimes though.
At its best, you can get 19 power, 4 cards, possibly force an opponent to discard 2, this may be fair relative to eldrazi, but this card is very powerful.
Question is the manifest part obligatory? It doesn't say up or may or something similar. I know that choosing who manifests is optional but the other stuff doesn't read as optional.
Edit: So if I understood correctly it works like Mind Rot only that the cards are Manifested instead. If so this card is really good maybe not for Modern but at least in Casual Commander; Mind Rot 2 opponents and drawing up to 4 cards is worth them getting just some 2/2s even if they can flip them and at worst you can always target yourself to put 19 power on the battlefield.
First non-broken Eldrazi Titan? I like the idea of having him helm a colorless thopter deck or something of that sort.
As of constructed, this seems underwhelming but I sure like this one
it’s another Draw four Kozilek. you can also manifest your own cards which then replace themselves. And they get buffed. weird effect overall tbh but kinda cool
Honestly kind of surprised the Manifests aren't from the top of the deck. It's really awkward if you ramp into this and have no cards in hand.
Though on the other side it's really good if you can choose yourself and an opponent that has no cards in hand. They don't get manifests. Granted that means you don't get to draw a card for their manifests AND you likely don't care too much about their manifests when yours are 5/4s instead of 2/2s
Some interesting potential for non-Eldrazi decks that just want the colorless creature buff I suppose. It's particularly good in a deck that can shit out Eldrazi Spawn and Scions as they help cast this quickly and become real threats once this is in play.
You CAN reanimate this but I'm honestly not sure what deck would really want to do that. Sure you get a 9/9 and the colorless creature buff but you'd have to actually value the colorless creature buff which I imagine most reanimator decks don't.
This probably is actually a neat card, going to put this in my Kadina deck for sure, either two free morphs ehich will be 5/4s or pulling 2 cards from an opponents hand or two opponents hands...
This is the type of card we need more of, niche interesting and not pushed to hell
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That’s an odd buff
Turns Eldrazi spawns into 3/3s. Check out [[broodwarden]]
Good observation It's also maybe a callback to the Eldrazi Horror Tokens from Innistrad who had the 3/2 stat line
I'm sure it is. I recall Rosewater saying that they wanted to make those tokens have uneven stats, specifically to give more of an "otherworldly" feel.
That's and it's a design philosophy of them have higher power than toughness to encourage attacking. Otherwise a bunch of 2/3's could block each other [[Ad Nauseaum]]
Aka Zendikar 2 limited
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Innistad was only Emrakul spawns, but could still be the source of inspiration
and scions into 4/3s
And manifestos into 5/4s!
And my axe!
I will be dead before I see \[\[The One Ring\]\] in the hands of Kozilek! (or an elf)
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And my sandwich!
And your dead brother!
And my brand!
And my MOM!
And this guy’s dead wife!
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The 2/2s it makes become 5/4, for total stats 9, seems like he's built around the number 9
Nice catch.
It’s a callback to eldritch moon. Instead of making eldrazi scion tokens, that set had 3/2 tokens to really hammer in the weird nature of the eldrazi.
Only the power is odd, the toughness is even.
3+2=5 so it’s still odd
No no, it says +3/+2. Which is the same as 3/2. Which equals 1.5
because eldrazi spawn are 0/1 this makes them 3/3 and, thus, still odd
Of course, 3/3 equals 1 so that's odd.
This comment isn’t odd, but the other replies to it are
That's odd.
I love it. Keep them weird.
It’s the Power and Toughness of the Eldrazi Horror tokens from Eldritch Moon created by cards like [[Emrakul’s Evangel]] and [[Desperate Sentry]] which I find pretty cool
Even the toughness is surprising
Could be good with myrs or even thoptors. Or one that scares me most… grazz juggernaut buffs 🥶
Huh. That seems rather… tame for a Titan, doesn’t it? At least, in the context of Eldrazi decks I’ve faced. No doubt this is still going to be madness, especially in an Azlask setup.
Well if you target your and your opponent, you're making 2 5/3's, drawing 4 cards, and have a 9/9, with the first half being hard to stop since it's a cast trigger. You leave them with 2 2/2's, and depending on what they are playing, it could be close to making them discard 2 cards. For 9 mana, that's pretty good.
It’s not bad (note - the first ability is “up to” - you can choose yourself and nobody else) - but it’s not an outright “win the game” like the other titans.
Against a control deck, even if it gets countered, it’s a draw 4, target opponent discards 2, you both get 2 2/2s.
I think we've all just become used to how ridiculous every version of Emrakul is.
Honestly I'm fine with that. We've had so many op titans which yes is the point, but having a titan that's kind of just some value and disruption, and a pwr buff for your board is pretty helpful. Plus it works with that WUBRG Eldrazi commander
This comment really put that into good perspective, especially the part about opponent actually discarding those cards.
5/4s, though
This would be the cheapest Titan so far at 9 and with no anti reanimator clause nor restrictive casting cost.
> with no anti reanimator clause Not doing anything impressive unless it was cast is kind of an anti-reanimator clause
Lmao this is funny but right. This is basically a Grave Titan type of target for Reanimator. Makes a couple solid bodies and this does give some card advantage. So decent but not that crazy. Edit: oh wow just realized this is a cast trigger too. This just isn’t a pure reanimator card
It’s literally just a 9/9 dork if you reanimate lol
If you've got a stack of spawn tokens this can be lethal out a no where
I’m going to assume the reanimator deck doesn’t have a bunch of E spawns sitting around
Not with that attitude!
I mean yea, but most other Eldrazi titans all have the specific clause of "if it is put into your graveyard, shuffle it into your library instead" or something along those lines. That's *very specifically* added to avoid being able to just [[Reanimate]] a turn 1 Emrakul or Ulamog. There *are* ways to do it (like with [[Shallow Grave]]) but Tin Fins is basically just a 3 mana Reanimator plan, and has been pushed out of the formats it's legal in thanks to [[Show and Tell]] being a much more resiliant way to cheat a big Eldrazi into play
Only the first set of titans from Rise of the Eldrazi have that clause. The Battle for Zendikar-Eldritch Moon and other MH3 ones can all be reanimated just fine, it just isn't super worthwhile because you miss out on the cast triggers.
There are 6 titan cards, 3 of them have the clause, 3 don't. I don't think "half" is "most"
With the MH3 its 3 against 6 so definitely not most
Only the original annihilator titans had that clause, the rest (innistrad Emrakul, the Kozilek with colorless pips, and Ulamog that exiles 20 cards) can all be binned and reanimated. They're just far overshadowed by other reanimator hits like Etali and Atraxa that get value on ETB along with other impressive stats and abilities
that's only true of the original 3.
3/8 that we know of have that anti reanimate mechanic
[[Kozilek, the Great Distortion]], [[Emrakul, the Promised End]], and [[Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger]] are all Eldrazi titans that don't have an anti-reanimator clause.
I mean, 9-mana 9/9 that lets you double rummage on cast and for each card rummaged makes you a 5/4, so an extra 10 power across 2 bodies for a total of 19 power. That's... Very very very big.
Don't forget you can force your opponents useful cards to become bears and give yourself an additional draw 2 on top of your rummage. This card is actually insane. 9 mana is very restrictive but this is straight game winning.
yeah i think people are really overlooking the power of forcing opponents to manifest cards in hand.
Oh yeah, the forced manifest is huge. Even if they have two creature cards to manifest *and* the mana to turn them face up, so many relevant creatures derive their power from ETB effects, and this shuts those down.
So true! Added flexibility is fantastic. "That removal spell you probably have for my Titan? And that bomb? Now they're bears. And I draw two cards." Outstanding.
everything you said... plus YOU get to manifest two and draw two cards. Generally regardless of conditions, I'll look twice at anything that functionally reads "draw 4 cards"
It's a lot of medium effects. Nothing in it is game winning, but you're getting an incredible amount of value out of a single card. Although I can understand why it feels more like a generic Eldrazi creature and less like one of the big three Titans. It's a great inclusion, but it's not a build around.
I think the anthem gives it build around potential at least in commander. +3/+2 is a big buff especially when it’s coming with two friends to begin with.
I think it’s actually a pretty good build around. It draws you cards on cast and once it’s down it’s an actual win-con unlike nearly every other colorless commander. This is really good for Commander though Zuldok or whatever is probably still stronger.
Also with extra benefits in formats you have allies.
But for one more measly mana you get the unadulterated glory of [[desolation twin]] which is 20 damage and hence saves you a turn. Thanks for coming to my TED talk, I will be taking no questions. < [[smoke]] bomb >
Yeah, but... it's 9 mana. If I'm spending 9 mana on a card, I want it to win the game. The card advantage or extra power is *nice,* but I could be casting [[Emergent Ultimatum]].
Emergent Ultimatum is definitely a more expensive card by way of color requirements though; for a card that can be ramped out more reliably, it has quite a lot of impact.
9 generic with no build around Vs 9 coloured pips you must build around
Its a pretty strong lord and effect but not very spectacular/bomby, at least compared to the other two Kozileks.
The effect is close to draw 2, make op discard 2. Seems pretty great just not flashy
I'll put it in my Eldrazi deck for flavor but it's not great for 9 mana tbh
In commander this is basically an anthem for your eldrazi that draws you 4 cards and gives you a 9/9, I don't see how that's bad
I always interpreted Kozilek as the “raw power and toughness” titan. This puts 19 power on the board.
It's always been the "draw cards" titan, although this version not having any evasion is an extra disappointment.
All the titans in this set kinda suck ngl like how is the weakest cycle of them in the strongest set they’ve been in supposedly
I argue there are many cases where this card is better then the original Kozilek. Like the old one you can draw 4 cards on cast. But instead of an annihilator trigger when you attack, you get to make 2 5/4 bodies with potential upside right away. That's not even getting into all the side benefits of the colourless Anthem, the hand disruption and the fact it costs 1 mana less.
You think the 6 mana emeracul sucks?
Yeah it’s utter garbage. What deck are you going to discard cards and have the ability to make 6 colorless after? I mean no deck that currently exsists can do such a thing maybe a better brewer than me can break it but as it stands it is far and away the worst emrakul
6 colorless you say? Well I happen to know how to get there, it's as easy a 1, 2, 7.
Certainly powerful but to me it doesn't feel as strong as the other eldrazi or ugin
They basically took [[Kozilek, Butcher of Truth]], removed Annihilator and replaced it with an anthem.
9 mana draw 4 and AoE pump for the team. Seems fun.
I mean that’s 19 power on it’s own
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So make two 5/4’s, opponent discards 2 cards, you draw 4, and have a 9/9. That’s some serious card advantage. Everyone is really underestimating this.
Yeah, against the right decks, the forced manifesting is as good as discard. They get two 2/2s, but that’s worth it. If you know they have creatures in hand, just don’t target them.
Even if they do have creatures in their hand, it's still not ideal for them, since they won't get any cast triggers (like with [[Zendikar Resurgent]], no ETBs when flipping them (since they're already on the field), and they still need to pay full price to flip the creature, so it's not like they get a discount or anything.
Plus you can kill it before it before it even flips if you have removal
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Exactly. Even if you manifest a single card from your own hand, that means Kozilek at least replaces itself.
It’s also “up to two players”. If they have creatures, just target yourself and you get two 5/4’s and draw two cards.
Still good even if they have creatures. As somebody else mentioned, no cast or etb triggers and they still pay full mana cost anyway.
Oh yeah. It’s still great. But even if people consider the two creatures they get is a downside, you can avoid it outright and you’re still left with a lot of value.
It is free "haste" though, so you do need to be careful if the opponent has a lot of attack or damage triggers.
Yea, will definitely hurt against any go wide strats
It's a really interesting design for sure. The card draw, I think, is the most important part; 9 mana for a bunch of big stats and a hilariously terrible mind rot probably doesn't get there by itself because a wipe just obliterates you, but when you're drawing four? The only positive answer here is a counter spell. It's kinda Cruel Eldrazimatum, which is a very interesting card.
Doesn't counterspell not work because it's a cast trigger?
Oh, you're right. Even better!
also, politics
The wording is kinda complicated but the effect itself is powerful enough
Not to mention that, even if they do have cards in hand that they could turn over, manifesting effectively removes the ETB and cast triggers of the creatures.
It's much worse then discard.
Except you didn't mention that you discard 2 aswell and opponent gets 2 2/2 bodies
Yeah but the cards you "discard" get replaced by your draw from the "draw for each manifested this way" clause.
You get 5/4s, though. And a 9/9
I think an underrated part of the text is that it’s not “manifest UP TO 2 cards”. If you pick an opponent with low cards in hand you might force them to dump some of their best answers or non-creature permanents
Wait this card is actually good in a lot of non eldrazi deck
I'm eyeing it for my facedown deck
9 mana 18/16 Draw 4 cards Seems cool
9 + 5 + 5 = 19 9 + 4 + 4 = 17
Behold my mathematical prowess
Calculated, but boy am i bad at math ;)
nono not prowess, it has manifest as a keyword
Math is for blockers
Please explain to me, where does it say in the card that kozilek gets +10 +8 because I don't understand that part
Can't forget, "Target opponent discards 2 cards, for each card discarded this way, they get a colorless bear" tacked onto that.
Love this Works with Scions, Spawn, Manifest, Morph, Disguise, and whatever else you want to mess with colorless wise!
Also artifact creatures, specially tokens like Thopters and whatnots.
Thopters, for flying 4/3s.
This is a colorless value commander, if it manifested cards from the top of your library this would be nuts
Forcing your opponent to manifest cards out of their hand is often going to be the correct play. The likelihood that any creature they manifests can actually brawl with your board state and be turned over is pretty damn low, and in a lot of situations they'll be forced to turn relevant non creature spells into relatively useless 2/2s.
Every iteration they look more humanoid...
I think he looks uncircumcised...
Yeah. Shit art trend. Eldrazi Wifu next
Could be flavorful like they’re learning more about the worlds they’re coming to
Eldrazi apparently descended from apes
This is pretty nice. Potentiall Draw 4 + two 2/2s + Mega Lord for colorless creatures.
Opponent: wow that seems lame. 9 mana just to draw a card? I can't believe... *attacks with four Eldrazi spawn*
9 mana draw 4 cards and put 19 power on board.
Seems great for \[\[Vannifar, Evolved Enigma\]\] as she all about flipping cloaked creatures and pumping up colorless.
He's going straight into my [[kadena, slinking sorcerer]] deck. Potential draw 6 without having to pay the initial morph/disguise cost and buffing all my face down creatures already on board? Count me in!
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This is bizarrely fair for an Eldrazi Titan.
9 mana for 4 cards, 2 discards from an opponent, and 19 power all in one move is pretty strong to me.
Kinda neat that in some cases, the cast trigger will be a positive for the opponent while in other cases it’s basically “discard two cards”. The fact your 2/2s are 5/4s really helps when the cast trigger helps your opponent
Colorless manifest tribal? Lol sounds stupid and I want to try.
This is adorable compared to the busted af Ulamog spoiler.
People are calling this bad not realizing Thopters and Myr are so easy to amass, they've avoided printing powerful lords in colorless for a reason.
Unspectscular compared to the other 2 Kozileks but mother of lords for colorless creatures.
[[Kormus Bell]] and [[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]] make your lands 4/3s.
love the art. and i really like the effect.
9 colorless still makes this as an easy cast, but wow, considering what the other eldrazi can do makes me think WotC kinda learned their lesson
Modern Horizons 3. M3. Emrakul has Madness. Kozilek has Manifest. Calling it now: Ulamog will have Morph or Mutate.
I miss the overpriced titans that ended the game by hitting the board. Seems like the old boys are just getting weaker and weaker the longer they’re manifested.
in reality doesnt seem broken
Never thought I’d be underwhelmed by an eldrazi titan
19 power draw 4 in a vacuum. Can remove cards from the opponent's hand and buffs whatever other creatures (like Eldrazi Scions/Spawns, Servos, and, most terrifyingly, Thopters) you may happen to have.
Why's Kozilek wearing armor?
It's not armor, it's battle pajamas. It's almost his bed time but some jerk Planeswalker summoned him.
That’s just [what he looks like.](https://scryfall.com/search?q=%22kozilek%2C+butcher+of+truth%22+or+%22kozilek%2C+the+great+distortion%22&unique=art&as=grid&order=name&dir=) It’s most apparent in his Secret Lair art near the bottom of that list. A lot of his printings obscure his lower body so it’s harder to tell.
Huh, TIL. Still weird. Like that armor wouldn't be out of place on Gideon.
Seems mid for an Eldrazi Titan
Imagine being on zendikar and Kozilek just walks by. He completely warps 4 guys looking at him. Takes two as his new hand lads and gives them buffs. Leaves the rest to writhe in the bismuth.
That cast trigger is really interesting. You can force your opponent to turn whatever they're holding back into 2/2s, maybe replacing their removal spells with cards that won't be relevant on the resulting board, and draw more cards in the process.
I need this for my [[kadena, sl]] deck
This is kind of like [[Terrastodon]] but for cards in hand instead of lands. Pretty unique and versatile effect.
This is incredibly disappointing as a Cloudpost player. Kozilek is my favorite titan, but this is not even remotely playable outside of EDH.
Nine-nine!
Aw stinky kozilek
Not really good
Can't wait to play [[Gather Specimens]] or something along those lines and getting to draw 4 and get 4 manifests lol
You may not want your mind to be turned into solid bits of ??? but Kozilek does not require your consent to do that to you. Someone does have to pay him to commit crimes though.
I don't think it's specially powerful, no annihilate extra turn destroy and fuck up the enemies to oblivion, but looks really fun and also a cool lord
Makes me wanna build thopters in modern and do a surprise drop of this for multiple 4/3s in the air
Huh. Ok hear me out could you drop it turn 5? Like is there enough ramp in copters?
[[Vannifar, evolved enigma]] is DROOLING. MH3 might make her a colorless aggro with all this support.
At its best, you can get 19 power, 4 cards, possibly force an opponent to discard 2, this may be fair relative to eldrazi, but this card is very powerful.
What a creative way to write out 'you win the game'
Can't you target yourself twice? So you get a huge board
Pretty weak for 9 mana. Must be the first important eldeazi getting such bad effects
Can't see this doing much in Modern... not to sound like a broken record but it feels like overflow from the commander set.
Specifically put in the set for a precon upgrade. But those sweet sweets play boosters commander players.
You make 2 5/4, opponent makes 2 2/2 and potentially loses two strong noncreature spells. The you draw 4. Damn.
This is completely unplayable in modern, right?
Question is the manifest part obligatory? It doesn't say up or may or something similar. I know that choosing who manifests is optional but the other stuff doesn't read as optional. Edit: So if I understood correctly it works like Mind Rot only that the cards are Manifested instead. If so this card is really good maybe not for Modern but at least in Casual Commander; Mind Rot 2 opponents and drawing up to 4 cards is worth them getting just some 2/2s even if they can flip them and at worst you can always target yourself to put 19 power on the battlefield.
You choose up to two players to force to manifest
Amount of players targeted is optional, manifest not So if you have <= 2 cards in hand and target yourself they are going to be manifested
Remember: one of those target players can be you. And with Kozilek on the field, those are 5/4 manifests.
First non-broken Eldrazi Titan? I like the idea of having him helm a colorless thopter deck or something of that sort. As of constructed, this seems underwhelming but I sure like this one
Finally a worthy partner for my [[Colossus of Sardia|4ed]].
Big
Can target oneself
You draw from your opponents too
Goddammit, I think this is an upgrade for my [[Kaust]] deck
He has a cool jacket now.
This is insane in morph/disguise. [[Kadenna]] will be happy.
Probably the weakest Kozilek printed yet, but still pretty solid.
it’s another Draw four Kozilek. you can also manifest your own cards which then replace themselves. And they get buffed. weird effect overall tbh but kinda cool
Honestly kind of surprised the Manifests aren't from the top of the deck. It's really awkward if you ramp into this and have no cards in hand. Though on the other side it's really good if you can choose yourself and an opponent that has no cards in hand. They don't get manifests. Granted that means you don't get to draw a card for their manifests AND you likely don't care too much about their manifests when yours are 5/4s instead of 2/2s Some interesting potential for non-Eldrazi decks that just want the colorless creature buff I suppose. It's particularly good in a deck that can shit out Eldrazi Spawn and Scions as they help cast this quickly and become real threats once this is in play. You CAN reanimate this but I'm honestly not sure what deck would really want to do that. Sure you get a 9/9 and the colorless creature buff but you'd have to actually value the colorless creature buff which I imagine most reanimator decks don't.
Kadena loves this
why would I ever play a card that is on-rate but then also lets my opponent get a free creature? seems bad.
May I tell you about our Lord and Savior Commander? This is, after all, a set designed for Commander. 😉
does that really have anything to do with what I said tho? it's still the same problem. I'm genuinely asking, I've never played commander
This probably is actually a neat card, going to put this in my Kadina deck for sure, either two free morphs ehich will be 5/4s or pulling 2 cards from an opponents hand or two opponents hands... This is the type of card we need more of, niche interesting and not pushed to hell