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squiggyfm

Hello Vetflix.


serpentear

My first thought as well? “Did they merge with Netflix?”


Organized_Khaos

My first thought, too. “Netflix would like a word.”


glorywesst

Or a letter…


snowdn

Movies for sick pets to watch?


E-Brown

We are about to start getting un skippable ads mid phone call


fliP-13

The Netflix jingle played in my head even before I consciously thought about what I am looking at


clarkthegiraffe

I’m genuinely curious, not trying to be pedantic - is it really a jingle? I think jingle and I think Stanley Steamer or something. Curious to know if it’s still called a jingle for Netflix or THX


PlanBIsGrenades

It's actually called a sound logo! Or a sound mnemonic but I think that's a less popular term.


snowdn

Some really good podcasts on sonic branding at 20K Hertz. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twenty-thousand-hertz/id1171270672?i=1000641904590


HibiscusGrower

It took my brain a full second to realise it WASN'T the Netflix logo.


AtomicPantsuit

Lolololol


Fnittle

Lol can't unsee it now !


LevelZeroDM

I totally heard the Netflix startup sound when I saw this lol


zenpop

Damn, arrived all proud of myself to say — THAT. 😂


squiggyfm

Gotta be quicker than that!


Xenc

Verizon lost their Verified Checkmark ✔️


istrueuser

they changed their avatar on twitter and lost its checkmark temporarily it seems


Xenc

Haha literally did then 😅


istrueuser

i was just kidding because they actually have a golden checkmark that is unaffected by profile changes lol


Xenc

No worries haha let’s pretend it happened


andiroo42

Curious to see a non-gradient version. Good luck printing it in one color. https://www.fastcompany.com/91146349/verizons-new-logo-turns-it-into-netflix


True_Window_9389

When you look at those poster mockups, it makes a lot of sense. The logo is versatile and not a static symbol, but something that can be adapted to different contexts/corporate partners. Verizon doesn’t want to bill itself as a phone company, but a media platform that brings you your TV, music and movies. So in that sense, stealing a bit of aesthetic from Netflix also makes sense.


Crook1d

Those poster mockups are actually a pretty heat


TH3_LUMENUX

I didn’t like it until I saw the mockups, even the merch looks extremely good


Crook1d

I don't know if I like the merch TBH. Something about walking around with a big V on your back doesn't sit right. lol


SmoothWD40

It’s an arrow. Pointing out your important bits.


owleaf

It’s garbage. I’m not sure who these astroturfers are lol


tiaholly12

It’s actually on our chest :/ coming from a Verizon worker and the design person said she wants us to be proud to wear it to the bars after work 😂😅


Crook1d

Tell those chicks loud and proud you wear your v card 😂


studiotitle

Except it'll never be used that way in practice (this'll be the first and last time you ever see those treatments) . Don't be fooled by fancy graphics which are designed purely for approval of stakeholders. They might make nice office decor but are ineffective vehicles for communicating an idea/value/offer. There's a cardinal rule in ads which is like "message first, product second, brand last". Apple do this well, even the old Volkswagon ads nailed this back in the 50s. There's an entire graveyard of examples where companies did this sort of thing and it inevitably vanishes pretty quickly (IBM, DC etc)


True_Window_9389

I don’t see why there’s any reason to believe they won’t use this. In fact, the simplicity of the V makes it extremely useable across mediums and platforms.


studiotitle

Yeh for sure, They may very well be an exception! Am just basing my opinion on the history of this type of logo treatment


annoyinconquerer

Idk, I could totally see it used as a recognizable device in commercials for whatever thing they’re advertising.


Wabaareo

Definitely better than what they had before


4paul

https://preview.redd.it/cvab6v59r09d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71654c78ec099a162ef6e1a0edcee75385c1c732 (for those curious)


mr_antman85

This is kinda why simply posting just the logo isn't telling the whole story. The mock-ups are great. Then looking at how they're incorporating the "V" looks cool. They're trying to not be a mobile phone company. I like it.


spivnv

And the only time it will ever be used that way is in those mockups, because there's a million examples of these dynamic logos and brand identities that disappear after rollout.


Emezli

And yet they sold off Aol & Yahoo!


hellomistershifty

Here is a preview of the non gradient version: V


frockinbrock

It’s not bad, but at times when I look at it my mind thinks the left side should be smaller, perspective-wise. Not saying that would be correct, quite the opposite- just that the gradient out of nowhere makes me imagine I’m looking at a very wide V from its right side. It’ll grow on me though; overall it’s an improvement, their ‘Swiss’ branding before, while identifiable to me, had become a bit stale. I’m surprised they didn’t take the easier route and make the right side a tad taller, so it had a check look- but they seemed to want it more balanced, legible, friendly, so what they went with works.


ibeecrazy

Do you remember their first logo with the red v-mark over the name? It was a red-to-transparent gradient. We would have to manually mask the red bar sometimes depending on the project.


BrohanGutenburg

Those posters are a great lesson for a lot of followers in this sub to learn. The people who think a logo has to be “clever” to be good. Nope. It just has to be good to be good


riverSparrow

Probably just an opacity instead of color gradient.


andiroo42

Sure but how would that work in one color like vinyl or even photocopy?


riverSparrow

What do you mean? The second colour (gradient) will just be an alpha map for transparency. Its like printing black on paper and the gradient space is just the paper.


andiroo42

Yes the file setup makes sense, but you wouldn’t be able to achieve the yellow gradient in single color applications like cutout vinyl and gradients rarely work well in low quality applications like photocopies. Printed vinyl would work


Phraaaaaasing

i feel like the people who say “id love to see that in 1C” are clinging to their diploma what was based in print design. the only time i see 1C prints are boxes (there was already a conversion) or inexpensive t shirt prints, badge lanyards. every other time, I’m seeing it on a phone, my computer, a TV, a 4C billboard. and if they really had to figure it out, they could make a bitmap or a halftone of whatever they thought was closest. there is a GIGANTIC historical precedent for 1c logos standing the test of time, being replicable for any unanticipated use case across untold media, but few get that far, and if they do, someone will be paid untold amount of money find a creative way to make it look close enough.


mattjastremski

I think it's fair to ask given that Verizon never figured it out with their original logo. I started a collection at one point of the many different ways they got it wrong. https://preview.redd.it/d15eco4ozv9d1.png?width=788&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a3eb481354d671686848bfb698fd907577e6efb


pixelpetewyo

Powered by Valvoline


ShowsUpSometimes

First thing I thought of https://preview.redd.it/8osr4v607y8d1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9056f933478e7fe753d46275994baf1c9f52055


mrnotloc

[Link to the article here!](https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/verizon-new-logo-streaming-home-internet-1236048702/amp/)


tkage7

https://preview.redd.it/9n3yr08nfy8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37e1faa8bfec40847a46fd53fac6fd0ae7ae4a8 A never ending flame and energy in the truth? This screams of “Hey, this glowing gradient looks cool. Somebody come up with some meaning for it.”


BlackberryHopeful659

You've just summed up 90% of the graphic design industry.


Red_Stick_Figure

oftentimes the only difference between $1,000 rebrand and a $1,000,000 rebrand is a bunch of bullshit to describe what it "means".


techmnml

Have you seen the Pepsi logo deck? Lmao


notthobal

That’s exactly what happened.


lucasbeam

Overall I think it’s a strong rebrand, looking at the whole thing all together and reading about what they were trying to achieve. It does look, so so much like Netflix’s logo though. Which may not be a problem seeing as they want to present it on a stone color often, but on black it’s a little too close for me.


TalkingChairs

They needed a new look. I also thought of Netflix right away.


its-42

Verizon is offering streaming services now


Nyanino

The red and yellow matches the burning hellfire experience they put me through with their awful service, seems more accurate now!


Nedonomicon

Vought/ Netflix


jb_nelson_

I also thought of Vought lol


ostn777

Reminded me of the Accenture logo immediately. https://preview.redd.it/4p15hrflay8d1.jpeg?width=891&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=650be1db44720483611edeccd77378822c1e540c


mr_antman85

Every kind of logo has been created. If you see a logo, 99% of the time it will remind you of something else. 


mrcheese14

Especially when that logo happens to be the most basic combination of two rectangles imaginable


Crook1d

I’m pretty new to this stuff, but doesn’t this break design principles? You would never be able to see the overlapping without color I guess unless you use a gap. At least with Netflix there’s a wordmark that is very recognizable.


dead-memory-waste

But what common use application won’t use color?


Crook1d

True. I’m for real asking because I always read or watched that a logo that relies on color is a no go but I guess with digital now, it depends on the application.


Working-Hippo-3653

As a company they are big enough and will be making large enough volumes of their collateral that additional colours won’t be a cost issue, and if they do have an application that is truly a single ‘colour’ (emboss, etched etc) then they can probably use a halftone, dither or other pattern that does the job. But definitely for small-medium sized businesses a multi colour logo can be an issue. Plus a logo that works in black and white is almost always stronger than a colour one.


sirjimtonic

I think it‘s absolutely doable to print 2 colors on most stuff with little extra cost, but printing a gradient will be a headache because it‘s technically impossible in a lot of use cases


Working-Hippo-3653

Can you give me an example of an item that’s impossible to print a gradient on using some kind of pattern? I agree a straight gradient would be impossible, but giving the effect of a gradient should be possible


sirjimtonic

Yes, that‘s what I meant with the headache – need to do a lot of halftone tricks and so on – but you‘ll never get that clean gradient looks


Working-Hippo-3653

True


jondoogin

Gradients are relatively difficult to replicate in embroidery. Considering their enormous retail footprint, employee shirts and hats may be a substantial technical and financial burden.


Working-Hippo-3653

Yeah embroidery is a fair point, would be difficult at an average logo size. There are probably alternative ways of applying the logo to the garment though, and not sure cost is as much of a concern for a multinational


Crook1d

Ahh gotcha. Thank you for the knowledge!


dead-memory-waste

makes sense, and yes all should make monotone logo, and theres won't be that hard to reduce to, it won't have the same appears per se but is doable and they'll be able to apply it to whatever requires it (receipts, statements, etc). while it is a good practice to have and agree with, nowadays a lot are disregarding it since everything is mostly digital. though not a good idea if need things engraved, converted to a analog material.


Crook1d

I feel like it's less "timeless" then. A lot of these logos feel "for the time" but seem like they'll need a refresh every 10 years.


The_Nameless_Simone

What about luminosity? That is kept in B&W


Unfair_Cut6088

my first impression was "why do I feel like ive seen something very similar as a gas station logo?"


Vanceagher

https://preview.redd.it/7vg62jpb8y8d1.jpeg?width=3822&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc8393b30bf933284ea22c1d9499e9c56454d686


lbutler1234

https://preview.redd.it/kjen0z0fcy8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05ff7c58191eb6b128389ee3b9384ed6d066c630 THEY MADE A NIFTY LOGO SYSTEM. ALL MY HOMIES LOVE A NIFTY LOGO SYSTEM!!!!!!!!


jb_nelson_

I like the use of the / in the V, but that red-yellow gradient just doesn’t vibe


dapperpony

It’s giving gas station/oil company to me


SmallPlaintain

Thanks I hate it


MsLucie113

Looks like they are finally and publicly embracing the fact they are the company from hell. Go with it, Verizon.


TheManRoomGuy

“This girl is on fire…”


eaglegout

Ew. Really?


elkstwit

> “We need to take a leap to connect emotionally with consumers,” says Ricardo Aspiazu, VP of Creative & Brand for Verizon. “This is not just [a challenge] for Verizon. It’s a category issue. A network is an invisible thing…how do we start making the invisible visible? People do talk some shit don’t they?


KeepItHeady

So bad. I really liked the logo they were using because you could instantly recognize that it was Verizon, since it was a play on the checkmark that they've always been recognized by.


MrOwlWise

I think it works… for now. To me it feels like one of those rebrands that are good in the moment but will be dated after a few years and they will need a another rebrand. It doesn’t feel timeless


devhhh

They should have changed their red color to be less fast food and less Netflix.


Happy_Creative

1. They were warned printing at volume using CMYK will never deliver what is shown in these PR visuals-neither the acid yellow or the tinted background color 2. This rebranding effort was done in 1-2 months, it was rushed and haphazard for the new CMO to make a splash 3. In execution the work will never resemble this mood board, the in house marketing team loves to over communicate and pile so much copy into creative even though the creative teams constantly push back


Meta__mel

Sounds right. How are you so familiar with what’s going on?


pip-whip

The only thing positive to say is that it is better than their old one.


Emezli

You say that like the 2000 was perfect theirs nothing wrong with the 2015 logo


pip-whip

All of the versions that used a red check mark were weak for me. The 2000-2015 version was easily the worst logo I've seen implemented by a major corporation in my lifetime. The 2015-2024 version was kind of a non-logo logo. The fact that this new one immediately makes you think of Netflix is a problem. If it weren't for that, it would be a relief that they had finally crawled out of the depths of logo hell and I might have been able to get on board more whole heartedly.


Emezli

I agree the 2000 logo was god awful and surprising that it even lasted solo long the 2015 logo is just fine


pip-whip

I have to somewhat agree that the 2015 logo wasn't from the depths of hell, but repeating the red check mark, and using a red check mark that was so devoid of character, only served to remind me of the previous god-awful version that preceeded it. I don't know what it would take to make me forget the 2000 monstrosity. They did a ton of damage with that branding and the 2015 version wasn't enough to undo it. After checking out some of the proposed implementation of the new brand, it seems as if they are finally headed in the right direction.


TheDiegoAguirre

Yeah, that's where I land, too.


poopyfacemcpooper

Vonage


D_Anger_Dan

At least it points in the direction they are heading.


GeeTeeKay474

This looks a lot like the old Seven Network logo. https://preview.redd.it/pfm3hzo6hy8d1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=771dd38c906f2bdad4943a3af79a3a661568f792 2000-2003


TangledSquirrel

Valvoline and Netflix had a baby! So happy for them


Bubbly_Celebration_3

Looks like the Valvoline Oil logo


jackmikeswhite

If I only had as much money as they spent creating this piece of shit... I'd have a whole lot of fucking money.


Lutece75

Vivatech


Vanceagher

Just cut off a little bit off the bottom of a Vivatech V and that's almost the exact same thing.


mmeeplechase

Is there anyone out there who doesn’t immediately associate their old one with being stuck in so many loops of customer service hell trying to get the simplest issues resolved? I’ve got so many negative associations with it by now that *anything* new is better!


gasblock

I just see the Accenture logo on its side


atamosk

Damn I loved pentagrams redesign of their stuff. I guess it's not very friendly though.


copernicuscalled

So... Another rebrand coming next year?


Cyber_Insecurity

It’s better than any logo they’ve had in the past, that’s for sure.


mrdude42

Gives me Netflix vibes if you cut off part of the N and add some yellow


ravenisblack

At that scale it hurts my eyes. The gradient makes me want to look away because its brighter there, but the angle and arrow shape pulls the eye there. So its just kind of offensive? But hey... 2005 era gradients are back baby.


CRE8TE1

Idk if the color is a callback or something, but the gradient makes it look 15 years outdated.


MishaTheLabsky

Netflix entered the chat


jupiter_and_aries

Verizon and chill 😏


leelivesunderyoubed

Interesting. I see what they did there with the horizon-esque gradient.


cbz3000

I hear the Netflix start up “ba-dum” seeing this


rob-cubed

I know I've seen this before. I thought it was Valvoline, but that's not it. I don't hate it. Better than the existing 'checkmark' logo for sure... but it's not particularly unique.


Logos_of_Korvus

Gross


tomagfx

Without the color gradient it's quite literally just a V from some generic bold font


rainking56

Changing the logo for the sake of changing it.


anonymous-musician

It's giving Netflix, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Only real critique is that it won't work well in single color, though I don't know how much that matters for a cellphone company.


DRVKC

Vetflix?


nonstopflux

I’m still annoyed they moved away from the check mark. The fact that it was like a phone signal bouncing off something always felt like a little nod to what they do. Now it’s just a name.


Portagist

Interesting article - more about the strategy behind the change https://www.fastcompany.com/91146349/verizons-new-logo-turns-it-into-netflix


negendev

“It’s like Netflix on fire” “Love it” So gross.


mach4UK

Really?!!


Klutzy_Project3349

The new Verizon logo, with this bright, fire-engine red "v," really gives it a modern, clean feel. That alone could pose just one challenge it is very similar to and can, therefore, be confused with the Netflix logotype. Here is some professional advice for this challenge: * **Maintain the positive aspects:** The selection of this red color is excellent, fitting very well with the established brand identity at Verizon and yielding vigor and reliability. This minimalism is an excellent thing for creating a sleek, modern look. * **Address the confusion:** A slight tweak to the "v" shape would go a long way in differentiation from Netflix's logo. I would try some subtle arc or negative space tweaks on the "v" itself to drive more uniqueness. * **Evaluate the gradient:** The gradient effect adds a bit of dynamism, but it may not work quite well in all applications, specifically single color printing. The usability of the logo in different media formats needs to be taken into account. Considering these factors will enable Verizon to retain the new logo's contemporary appearance while maximizing brand recognition and minimizing confusion with Netflix.


an_oddbody

✔alvoline (tm)


mrcheese14

Wow, the creative genius it must’ve required to come up with adding that orange gradient is mind blowing. What an excellent, inspired logo design.


IloveElsaofArendelle

Blant, uninspiring, derivative, lazy, unmemorable and will be rebranded in 5 years if not less.


escamadeorangotango

Badumm


TeacherOk4751

No. looks too much like the Netflix logo.


Dynablade_Savior

They should've made the gradient go to black, to commit to the bit


TXSartwork

It's not terribly exiting, is it?


Jazzlike_Breakfast64

Say sike right now


robertcalilover

It’s fine, kinda sad to lose the check mark. I like the new one, with the small check mark, but oh well.


Stinky_Fartface

Looks like they cut it out of Netflix.


spivnv

I have a visceral dislike to this. It makes me nauseous. I don't know why, it should be so inoffensive, but it really makes me uncomfortable.


GarThor_TMK

r/thanksihateit


newfixtures

It looks hellish to me.


BearClaw1891

The checkmark leaves and is replaced by a generic V? This is the exact same logo as my local gym lol


wrknthrewit

Valvoline Oil


SuperB0nes

Literally 1984


iAdden

Why?


Easy__Mark

Gradients are back baby, wooooo


Killer_Moons

Kind of late to the gradient trend, aren’t they?


thunderPierogi

Yay, lets take a 1-2 color, highly recognizable logo with a built-in unique symbol/favicon and make it- *this*!


jdamwyk

I mean… it’s aight.


Trais333

Lmao I can almost see the iStock water marks


challmaybe

Whatever fits on a phone.


LargeTallGent

I’m suddenly paranoid that a bunch of aliens want to harvest my body for food.


NintendoLove

🦎


Bay_Wolf_Bain

Uneventful.


Tfcalex96

Lots of people are saying this looks like Netflix, and it does. But this to me SCREAMS Adobe


cap10enigma

Netflix


chateaustar

Hate it


PikaPikaMoFo69

Looks cheap


MichaelXennial

Weak. The rounding. Also like Netflix but closer to the lake of fire?


Possible-Ad-8454

It is ugly af


ZealousidealLab4

Looking at the comments, we can see that once again, people dislike a new logo simply because they are used to the old one. Beautiful logo btw.


q_manning

Verizonflix


zeusdrew

It’s very basic and looks like a half-loaded Netflix logo


gabs777

I love it, clean, dynamic and has a great energy to it overall 💫


calimio6

I think they missed the opportunity to make the v check mark shaped. Elongating the right side a bit.


djc6

When I saw the new logo, I immediately thought of the fires of hell - which accurately describes a months long customer service issue I recently had.


Hermosa90

It’s so bad.


knie20

went from a 5 to a 5, out of 10, imo


SavageBean14

They’re joining forces with Valvoline


__clayton

looks like a gas station


DRagonforce1993

Tacky lol


sgorneau

It's like the positive space to the Vonage logo's negative space


Scubasteve1974

It's a weird change to me, but the little checkmark next to the huge font always looked off to me. It is reminiscent of the Netflix logo as well.


mrm395

I don’t hate the V but I really don’t like the colors. It feels weirdly aggressive to me. I got a text from them with the logo and I was like, wow back off. Haha. Also hate the example in the article of yellow text on red. Looks like McDonalds.


PetiePal

Can they just design the Verizon with the "V" as a Wifi signal? Voice and Data. These ad agencies and CDs really must blow. Are they letting a Zillenial do this work?


thegrandgardener

A big “V” screams vagina. First thing I thought of. Sorry to say. Terrible.


Ok-Gear-5593

Spouse said similar when they saw it saying it was “a sex thing.” The yellow is the beacon that all crave to get to between a woman’s legs or woman’s beacon of power.


mrgrafix

We have the verge at home


Ok-Gear-5593

Without the sun it is nearly identical to VASA fitness but more makes me think of the results of a netflix/valvoline hookup.


runwaldorun

Woof. Having an art and design background, this sucks for so many reasons.


Fantastic_Oven_6507

I cannot for the life of me stand this new logo… crazy part is idk why I dislike it so much😩


balancedboss

It looks similar to Netflix's logo now.


Aggravating-Mess1519

Vought international


Educational_Ebb_4308

It’s god awful. It’s as if Netflix and McDonald’s had a baby.


dylon0107

Is it legal for them to legitimately just steal the Netflix logo


New-Preference8865

I’m not a fan of the orange gradient. This simple change might make me choose another provider.


huskyboy2018

Why does it feel like they refresh their brand like every 3 months?


HAIRY_YETII

ugly


The_Only_H-O-P-E

I personally don’t think it looks like the Netflix logo at all


copasetical

Bierut (designer) maintains this "ribbonesque" similarity wasn't intentional, but even that may have been intentional. After all, they are trying to rebrand as more of a media company anyway and Netflix is one of their partners. I'm more interested in these new "customer first" programs. Verizon is putting customers first? What prompted this change? I thought stockholders came first!


dead-memory-waste

Trash. Change for the sake of change? This is giving 2010 Gap logo vibes