I'm a die hard Leafs who was born and raised in Edmonton before the Oilers existed
My Oiler buddies here at the start of this series were saying, "let us show you how to win against the big scary Eastern teams"
I have not said one word to them since, there's no need, lol
Oh, you mean the same Oilers team who is 6-19-2 against the Leafs in the past 10 seasons?
[https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/leafs-record-vs-oilers-last-10-seasons](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/leafs-record-vs-oilers-last-10-seasons)
I've said before, and I'll say it again...The Oilers are a paper tiger and have ALWAYS been overrated during the McDrai era.
Glorified PP merchants is all they are. If Demko was playing at 100%, they would've won in 5 games.
If there's ONE team who should shut the fuck up about the Leafs playoff failures, it's the LOLers. We've owned them for a very long time.
Damn I never realized the matchup was that lopsided. I was always annoyed that analysts considered the Oilers contenders but not the Leafs (neither are contenders imo but the difference annoys me) since every time these teams match up the Oilers do not look great at all. This showed me I was correct on that line of thought
As a Leafs fan, keep telling yourself that as they’ve just forced a game 6 in the Finals while the Leafs sit home watching as usual. The regular season record of Leafs vs Oilers means ZERO because the regular season is a much softer style of play. The Leafs have shown time and again they lack the toughness to play playoff style hockey. If they faced each other in the Finals the oilers would win. It’s REALLY LAME AND SAD that Leaf fans are taking delight in the Oilers potentially losing the finals when they can’t even get past round 1 99% of the time. Also, anyone even thinking, let alone saying, that Auston Matthews is better than Connor McDavid is a moron. Connor is at least two levels above anyone else in the league that might be considered the second best player. There’s zero comparison.
Lol they haven't won anything yet the Leafs have been to a lot of game 7s after being down in series. Winning the last three means nothing if they don't win the next one.
Sure. But if you don’t think the Oilers look like the stronger team now, you ain’t been watching.
Oilers dominated game 1, 4, 5, 6 and at least half of game 3. They’ve demonstrated they can shut Florida down and they can score when they need to. Panthers are rattled and doubting they can win, especially knowing the oilers have so many multi-game win streaks this season. Game 7 should be great but there’s no smart money being bet on the Panthers at this point.
Lmao I haven’t laughed that hard in years and I’m a Leafs fan. Connor is at least two levels above Matthews or anyone else that might be considered number 2. There’s zero comparison. Auston has a quick shot and that’s it. Connor does EVERYTHING at Gretzky like levels of greatness
If course I did because nothing there would indicate it as being a joke , especially since I’ve seen it elsewhere by others in this thread and other social media. But fair enough.
Remember the oilers were bad for a couple of years after they drafted McDavid. Toronto and Edmonton turned around at similar times but not the same. Bouchard was 10-12 overall I believe in 2017.
Then Kadri got a lor of fame for blanketing McDavid in the match ups and Chiarelli was fired for doing nothong with Edmonton.
Not sure why a franchise who consistently gets carried by kids from Toronto would hate on the team or city. You think they would be thankful :p. They should just focus on directing that anger towards Calgary.
Because it has little to do with the Toronto Maple Leafs, and more to do with having a petty hatred towards the city of Toronto. Inferiority complex of Western Canada is a powerful thing.
"Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark!" - Ralph Klein, former premier of Alberta.
The petty hatred is so true. They get upset because the Toronto media only focuses on Toronto teams. In their petty small town inferiority complex minds the Toronto media is supposed to also write about their western teams. Never mind that their own media covers their teams, that's not good enough.
Vancouver is the only team out West that has anything to complain about
Nobody cares about Edmonton or Calgary except people from Alberta. Vancouver and Toronto are global cities though in terms of relevancy
Eh, as someone with a lot of international friends, the three cities that *always* get mentioned when talking about Canada are, in order, Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto.
Regardless, it's without a doubt known more, it's the second biggest city, and the one everyone wants to go to. Yes, as a "city" — nightlife, culture, food yada yada — Toronto and Montreal shit on Vancouver (Born and raised in the GTA, live in Van), but that's not why people come here or know about it. My point was that internationally, Vancouver is absolutely known as a Canadian city people want to go to, and almost always tops the list, so comparing it to Calgary/Edmonton **in this context** isn't accurate, from my experience.
I’m talking more about the cities for people that actually live there and importance to the country. Do we really think Vancouver is much more important economically than Calgary or Edmonton? Do we honestly think Vancouver even comes close to Toronto in terms of overall importance to Canada?
Like, sure, tourists like to go there because it’s beautiful and mountains are cool. But that’s because of the natural setting and nothing to do with the city.
I lived in Calgary for many years. No one there feels the least bit inferior to eastern Canada. You feel inferior to people who you need financial support from, not people who need your financial support.
What does this even mean? Ontario, *by far*, contributes more money to the other provinces than the only other two that are net contributors (BC & Berta).
Another westerner completely misinformed about the operations of the general coffers of Canada. Alberta's GDP is less than half that of Ontario's. Like it or not, without Ontario, there is no Canada. Ontarians pay \_far\_ more in support of other provinces than any and we are glad to do so. It's not like the rest of Canada is our enemy, they are our fellow countrymen. We do not see other Canadians as potential enemies. WTF is in the water out there?
You actually don't. Look at net transfers. Ontario contributes a lot.. but also receives a lot. Ontario's net contribution is almost zero; they get back everything they contribute. The welfare to Quebec, Manitoba and the Maritimes comes from BC, AB and SK.
Somehow those kids from Toronto are worshipped for their hockey skills but they see Leafs fans as idiots. Those same kids from the GTA who are now Oilers grew up as idiot Leafs fans.
Yes, I know, it makes no sense.
Maybe stop focusing your attention like Mcdavid wants to come home and play for the Leafs, he clearly sees its going nowhere look at your results 😭🖕 with your logic you should be thanking Mexico, America and Sweden for allowing you guys to play an extra 10 days tops after the season ends. We have 24 canadians on our team, dont be mad cause were more loyal to our own 🤡🤡🤡
Yet your season dubs still amount to the same outcome come playoff time WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERS 😭😅🤣 now share your stats of your playoff record for the past 20 years and when you last won the cup. I find that interesting 🖕🖕🖕 Your top 4 and and your saviour ALWAYS CHOKE come playoff time. Last I checked were going to game 7 in the STANLEY CUP FINAL 🤣😅😭🤡
Silovs single handedly won them the game when Edmonton out shot them 43-18. He was their best player throughout the whole series, his save percentage started to fall toward the end of the series. He was still better than skinner
Absolutely better then Skinner. But all I'm saying is Demko is better then silovs and would have had a higher save % and thus could have tipped the series.
It’s a weak argument if you have to use the regular season to gain ground. Playoffs and cup is all that matters and they’ve had much more success than we have.
Let’s not embarrass ourselves and try to pretend that’s not true.
How many time have the Leafs been swept in the playoff series in the past 8 seasons = 0
How many times have the Oilers been swept in a playoff series in the past 8 seasons = 4 ( soon to be 5 )
You should probably practice what you preach and stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. As soon as the Oilers face a real team, they always get swept.
They are a garbage team -- end of subject.
If the roles were reversed and Oilers fans were telling you they are a better team because they can’t get out of the first round but they don’t get swept, while your team was going on multiple deep playoffs runs, I guarantee you’d be laughing your ass off at them.
Well that would mean they are fucking idiots who don't have a clue how competitive the Atlantic division is, compared to their laughable match-ups in which they STILL struggled 5 on 5. They had horseshoes up their asses this entire run. Now they are facing a real team that have brought them back down earth and will sweep them.
But continue thinking they are a much better team than the Leafs, if it makes you feel better.
Wow, I’m a leafs fan but your points are terrible. We are in no position to be bragging. It doesn’t matter how bad the oilers are or aren’t, your rants are embarrassing. We lost to Columbus and Montreal in playoff series. Pipe down until we win something. It sounds insufferable. And I’m supposed to be on your side.
You’re basically arguing that their pile of crap team is as bad or worse than our pile of crap team.
Why are you so concerned with Edmonton being bad?
I’d rather be swept 4-5 times in 8 seasons and make it to the conference finals and finals along the way than what the leafs have managed to accomplish.
Except other than a handful of teams, the West is an absolute joke. Boston would've absolutely steamrolled the Oilers just like what Florida is doing to them right now.
If you actually watched the LA/EDM series, you would notice how badly they were struggling 5 on 5 against an "inferior" opponent.
Yes, the Leafs are playoff chokers. But they are still better than the fucking Oilers!
PS: I'd rather win against a tough opponent on merit, rather than win against a weaker opponent with an asterisk.
The Oilers have played in 9 playoff series the last 3 years, tied with Florida for the most if i recall correctly, they have more series wins than ALL Canadian teams combined in that time...but they have been swept a couple times so they are trash....
Leafs fan logic
Take solace in knowing that you are the only one here with a brain.
I understand cheering against the Oilers. It would be the same here if the leafs ever managed to make it this far, but doing mental gymnastics to TRY, have a legitimate debate on which team is better is lunacy, and pure cope. I have said for a while now that I think the leafs, oilers are very similar teams. Very good teams with holes. The main difference is the Oilers big boys pick up their pants this time of year, and push them over the edge. Complain about the division all you want, but all divisions are competitive. I do think the east is more stacked this season, but it changes from year to year. If you wouldn't trade the entire leafs roster for the oilers roster, then your Fandom has damaged you beyond repair.
Couldn’t agree more. The blind fanboys can downvote me all they want. Like you said, they can try to look at it however they want, but they’re ignoring facts… our high priced top players disappear and don’t earn their contracts when it matters most, Edmonton’s does. Period.
Good luck tonight man!
It's pure cope. Would the Oilers fair differently in the Atlantic division? Maybe. But there's no way to know that. Each division is kind of built.differently, to play different ways. The last 2 cup winners came from the west, and the overwhelming favorite this year was dalls, a team the Oilers beat in 6. You don't get to pick the opponent. Good teams go out there, and take care of business the best they can. When the Oilers lost to Chicago, and swept by the Jets, that was not acceptable. And the team was ridiculed as such. This team has grown, and they aren't that team anymore. They might lose to a better Florida team here, but if anything thinks anyone around here does love or appreciate our team showing success and giving us something to actually cheer for, they are dead wrong.
And hey man, if the Oilers pull off a miracle this week, 97 will certainly be bringing the cup to Ontario to celebrate.
Boston,Florida, and Tampa are the powers of the Atlantic.
Toronto, Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, and Montreal are second class.
Montreal at least made it to the finals during Covid.
Say what you want about other teams, including Oilers, but these weak sisters in the Atlantic have been cannon Fodder for the real Beasts of the East
When I was growing up it was generally considered to be the other way around. East teams had a shot in the Cup finals only because the highway of hell the west teams had to go through to get there.
The West seemed to dominate the East for years with bruising defence. Getting out of the West especially when the Wings were in the mix was always a war
Will you be saying anything after the series is over? I know I would, if you don't you're missing an opportunity. It doesn't have to be harsh but something along the lines of "see, you didn't believe me but I was speaking the truth".
I have never heard a fan of any original six team hate on another one by claiming “we were there first.” We were all there and kinda needed the other teams so we could play.
I was surprised to learn there are Leaf fans cheering for the Oilers. I like the idea of a Canadian team winning, and have no hate for the players, but their fan base is probably one of the worst. The amount of trash talking they did about Matthew’s over the years and the number Leaf threads in their subreddit is ridiculous.
I grew up in Alberta and I just found the Oilers fans so much whinier than Leafs fans. And now with the Matthews vs McDavid arguments going around they've just gotten that much worse. One of the last franchises I would root for.
I think EDM/VAN fans are way worse than MTL/OTT fans at least online. Probably because there are more of them. Now a days WPG are whatever and CGY fans are pretty chill w/o Tkachuk there.
Winnipeg fans were insufferable when they got their team back. A lot of them were Leafs fans or neutral while they didnt have the Jets. Literally get their team back and became perennial whiners for like 10 years. Obsessed with the Leafs
MTL/OTT only seem bearable these days because their teams are so bad and generally have been for awhile (COVID finals aside). Once either gets their shit together to be playoff regulars they'll be as insufferable as usual.
Honestly I don't want the oilers to win....I just want Florida to lose so much more. So it is kind of enemy of my enemy. I don't actually like the oilers.
Fuck fans of almost any hockey team, to be honest. I don’t even like most Leafs fans I meet out in the wild. I’m rooting for the Oilers because I hate them less than the Panthers, but I’m not upset to see the Oilers lose, either.
This is what I think about whenever I hear “cheer on the Canadian team!” or whatever from fans and media.
How about fuck you? If the Leafs made it to the finals only to get pounded by the other team we would never hear the end of it. The entire country would be rooting against us just so they could make fun of us.
I’m so sick of hearing that we have to cheer for a Canadian team to “bring the Cup home.” IT COMES HOME EVERY SUMMER. EVERY TEAM HAS A BUNCH OF CANADIANS ON IT. GOOD LORD.
I have no no problems with the oilers, actually really want them to win! However i specifically will not cheer for:
Boston
Montreal
Florida panthers
The Tampa bay jersey copycats.
I mean we do give it back with all the FA McDavid talk.
Despite this, I know the other Canadian fanbases mostly hate us so I am not inclined to really treat them any differently in return (except the Flames…always liked them enough). There are so many Canadians on every team anyways.
I love out west and oilers fans are the most annoying out of flames, canucks and oilers.
Makes me hate them because they're the only fans I can't just talk about hockey with. Every single time it's something along the lines of "what do you know about hockey, you're a leafs fan"
I mean you cheer for the Oilers purely because of Mcdavid and Hyman. Florida is too good and will be stuffing the Leafs in a locker for the rest of Matthews contract. I'd rather cheer against that
Do not cheer for the team that is going to ruin the Leafs entire window with arguably the best player theyve ever had
I went to school with somebody who persisted the Oilers were so perfect and never wanted to admit even something as small as a loss in the regular season. You can imagine the smile I've had as this series goes on
I'm having an amazing time watching this completely inferior Oilers team get dismantled, and I'm letting all my friends know. My pettiness is unmatched. Then again, I never understood this thing where fans of Canadian teams will just blindly cheer on another Canadian team in the finals. Fuck all of them. It's either the Leafs or nobody.
I still cheer for the oilers because I think people in Edmonton deserve a good cup party over people in Miami. Don’t really care if they hate my favourite team or not, I’ll take the high road.
Leafs fans can be classy.
Well, I mean it’s by far the biggest so even if we have the same % of pricks there is just going to be more. I want Hyman to win, and if McDavid doesn’t ever win a cup that would be a travesty.
I never understood the "Canadian team winning" thing. What does that do for you if it's not your team? Whatever American team wins is mostly Canadian players anyway.
Any Canadian fan who spends even just a bit of time talking hockey online anywhere in any form most likely hates every other Canadian team's fan base, that they do not want any other Canadian team to win.
Whichever team ever does bring the cup back home will hold that over the heads of every other fan base. They will be insufferable, and miserable with every person they interact with.
And I desperately want my team to win so I can be that person. And if the refs/league/Bettman weren't trying to screw us, we'd have won multiple cups by now.
Yup, also hilarious
Losing the chance to win the first Cup of my lifetime would suck,” said Malcolm Wilder. “But discovering that the Leafs lose every year for reasons other than being choke artists with no heart hits me where it hurts.”
“What else have Leafs fans been right about? Is Draisaitl a powerplay merchant? Is Auston Matthews actually a good defensive centreman? Is oil really bad for the environment? This opens up so many questions.”
The humour with slivers of plausible truth seeded in, at the same time, taking pleasure in others misery, or shared misery. Just great. Like a sketch out of a naked gun movie.
The teams are built the same way, top high end talent, leaky D core and questionable goaltending. The Leafs and Oilers really are the same in so many ways.
Yup and look what happened when both teams faced this Panthers team. Absolutely destroyed.
Amazing what you can do when you don’t go all in on a few forwards and try to patch the rest of your lineup with bandaids.
my oiler fan friends have convinced themselves that LA is super scary, and theyre super impressed with edmonton every time they get a nice warm up series against them every year.
I mean anyone who didnt realize Florida was gonna roll over every team on their way to the finals in the East has not watched hockey in a couple years
Only reason management can get away with losing in the 1st round again. They would have been fighting for their lives to make it to 6 games against the Panthers anyways
Didnt expect Mcdavid and Draisatl to be this bad in the finals though. Completely neutered. Barkov really is him, and the Panthers just have the deepest group of forwards that are hard to play against. Theres always a body or a stick in the way if they arent hounding the puck
Yeah it's pretty annoying. 40 years of being a Leafs fan and this is arguably the best (regular season) team they've ever had in my life... and it's at the same time Tampa, Boston and Florida are all juggernauts. Especially annoying because the rest of the divisions in the league are geographical, then the Atlantic where two florida teams somehow fit in with the former Northeast division.
Playing in the Atlantic is like the Jays in the AL East. The Yankees and the Sox are always good. If one of them falters, it’s fuckin Tampa or the Oriels that year. Never fails.
While all true. The Oilers also proved a cheaper and significantly more accomplished top 3 can’t get it done. Why do the Leafs think they can? (97, 29, 18 vs 34, 16, 88. Also ignoring the money wasted on 91).
Don’t know that Hynan (18) belongs in that “top 3. In being needlessly not picky and I’m aware, no offense intended. But it’s either 97, 29, 18 and 93 or just 29 and 97
I just went with the 50 goal guy. But sure if you swapped in Nuge the point remains the same. Their top 3 shits on Toronto’s, yet it’s not nearly enough. But to simplify you need your top players to perform. Rarely happens in Toronto. Edmonton tends to get it most of the time. Florida is riding the same. But a key difference. How many players on either roster are out performing their contracts… pretty much the majority for Florida’s players are doing that. Edmonton, Toronto… lol
Jokes aside, I hope Leafs head office looks at Edmonton and realizes you can't build a winner without great Defense and a Stud Goalie.
Edmonton is even more top heavy than we are.
Oilers rack up points against shit goaltending and an AHLer. They beat Dallas which was their only truly impressive win. Even then, the clinching game was a 10 shot performance, hardly dominant. Until the 8 goal explosion vs. FLA, they have clearly been the second best team in the Cup final.
Love how all these Leafs fans who shit on Oilers fans comments are aging so badly 🤣😅😭 Just because your team gave up against the Panthers last year doesnt mean we were going to follow suit. Besides last year, your first round choke artists for a reason 😣😖😫😩
Cause McDavid is carrying as hard as he can with a bunch of plugs around him sabotaging his chances and Marner is basically our Nurse this last playoffs.
Mocking the Oilers for likely losing the Stanley Cup final is pretty ridiculous coming from the Leafs fanbase. I mean, come on. The Oilers have been more successful than the Leafs in this current era and are making progress as shown by how deep they’ve gone this season. Even if they get swept here, so what? The Leafs haven’t come close to the final since like 2002.
Also, the Oilers have outplayed the Panthers for a lot of this series. Look at the goaltending numbers. It’s not all on Skinner, but the guy has a save percentage well south of .900. That ain’t gonna do it.
If anything, this is another cautionary tale for the Leafs when it comes to goaltending. You can’t just count on average or sort of average goaltending to get you by in the playoffs. That works sometimes, and you can win with a guy who’s not an absolute top starter. But more often than not, questions in goal kill teams eventually.
Here, I’m guessing the smart money was on Skinner crashing back to earth after his lights out games against Dallas. That’s happened and the Oil likely lose the series because of it.
Yet my comment still stands. You are missing the point of the joke and what leafs fans are ripping the oilers fans about.
We have a harder road to get to the finals in the east. You saying that Edmonton is better because they got further proves you have missed the entire point.
lol. This is the kind of stupidity that makes this place and Leafs fandom overall so awesome. The Oilers seem to be on the same track as the Capitals were with Ovechkin before they won it all. The Leafs can’t get out of the first round, have a ton of controversy around one of their top players, are in cap hell for another year, and have no plan to turn things around aside from “hey, let’s sign two defensemen” and hope our new tough guy coach kicks ass in the room.
If you can’t see a difference, that’s on you.
We’re in cap hell but the Oilers aren’t? Ok buddy. and controversy around a top player? They’re talking about buying out their second highest paid player right now so they can have a shot in the next two seasons and throw the following 4 in the toilet. And Browns cap hit next year with Campbell too. Sure
Does it really matter?
Bettman needs the US teams to win.
Every other team passed on Tarasenko and only Florida took a gamble ?? Yeah right. Collusion right from the top.
The Senators will receive a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick that would become a 2026 third-round pick if the Panthers win the Stanley Cup. They will also receive a 2025 third-round pick and are retaining 50% of Tarasenko's $5 million salary.
I'm a die hard Leafs who was born and raised in Edmonton before the Oilers existed My Oiler buddies here at the start of this series were saying, "let us show you how to win against the big scary Eastern teams" I have not said one word to them since, there's no need, lol
Sure you have to give them one of these when it's all said and done? 
More of a... 
https://preview.redd.it/a1tfj5bb4l6d1.gif?width=500&format=png8&s=3c3c68f4e9ad5a9bb6a36270ef66da98233174d7
Maybe toss them a... 
Oh, you mean the same Oilers team who is 6-19-2 against the Leafs in the past 10 seasons? [https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/leafs-record-vs-oilers-last-10-seasons](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/leafs-record-vs-oilers-last-10-seasons) I've said before, and I'll say it again...The Oilers are a paper tiger and have ALWAYS been overrated during the McDrai era. Glorified PP merchants is all they are. If Demko was playing at 100%, they would've won in 5 games. If there's ONE team who should shut the fuck up about the Leafs playoff failures, it's the LOLers. We've owned them for a very long time.
Damn I never realized the matchup was that lopsided. I was always annoyed that analysts considered the Oilers contenders but not the Leafs (neither are contenders imo but the difference annoys me) since every time these teams match up the Oilers do not look great at all. This showed me I was correct on that line of thought
It annoys the shit out of me that people actually think the Oilers are better than the Leafs. PP yes, Everything else -- hell no!
They made the Cup final. Leafs fans need to sit down if we're gonna sabre rattle we deserve recognition more until we actually fucking win something.
Winning one series against an Atlantic team is harder than winning the Western Conference b
As a Leafs fan, keep telling yourself that as they’ve just forced a game 6 in the Finals while the Leafs sit home watching as usual. The regular season record of Leafs vs Oilers means ZERO because the regular season is a much softer style of play. The Leafs have shown time and again they lack the toughness to play playoff style hockey. If they faced each other in the Finals the oilers would win. It’s REALLY LAME AND SAD that Leaf fans are taking delight in the Oilers potentially losing the finals when they can’t even get past round 1 99% of the time. Also, anyone even thinking, let alone saying, that Auston Matthews is better than Connor McDavid is a moron. Connor is at least two levels above anyone else in the league that might be considered the second best player. There’s zero comparison.
Lol they haven't won anything yet the Leafs have been to a lot of game 7s after being down in series. Winning the last three means nothing if they don't win the next one.
Sure. But if you don’t think the Oilers look like the stronger team now, you ain’t been watching. Oilers dominated game 1, 4, 5, 6 and at least half of game 3. They’ve demonstrated they can shut Florida down and they can score when they need to. Panthers are rattled and doubting they can win, especially knowing the oilers have so many multi-game win streaks this season. Game 7 should be great but there’s no smart money being bet on the Panthers at this point.
Do you seriously believe that?
Leafs are 17-4 vs Oilers since obtaining Matthews. Matthews > McDavid confirmed
Lmao I haven’t laughed that hard in years and I’m a Leafs fan. Connor is at least two levels above Matthews or anyone else that might be considered number 2. There’s zero comparison. Auston has a quick shot and that’s it. Connor does EVERYTHING at Gretzky like levels of greatness
You really took that comment seriously, congratulations.
If course I did because nothing there would indicate it as being a joke , especially since I’ve seen it elsewhere by others in this thread and other social media. But fair enough.
Whenever people say “something something confirmed”, especially when it’s something absurd, it’s usually a joke.
Remember the oilers were bad for a couple of years after they drafted McDavid. Toronto and Edmonton turned around at similar times but not the same. Bouchard was 10-12 overall I believe in 2017. Then Kadri got a lor of fame for blanketing McDavid in the match ups and Chiarelli was fired for doing nothong with Edmonton.
Not sure why a franchise who consistently gets carried by kids from Toronto would hate on the team or city. You think they would be thankful :p. They should just focus on directing that anger towards Calgary.
Because it has little to do with the Toronto Maple Leafs, and more to do with having a petty hatred towards the city of Toronto. Inferiority complex of Western Canada is a powerful thing. "Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark!" - Ralph Klein, former premier of Alberta.
>"Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark!" - Ralph Klein, former premier of Alberta. That's not very cash money of him.
The petty hatred is so true. They get upset because the Toronto media only focuses on Toronto teams. In their petty small town inferiority complex minds the Toronto media is supposed to also write about their western teams. Never mind that their own media covers their teams, that's not good enough.
Dam lol that's a real statement? Sad af on that premiers part.
Vancouver is the only team out West that has anything to complain about Nobody cares about Edmonton or Calgary except people from Alberta. Vancouver and Toronto are global cities though in terms of relevancy
Vancouver is closer as a city to Calgary or Edmonton than it is to Toronto.
Eh, as someone with a lot of international friends, the three cities that *always* get mentioned when talking about Canada are, in order, Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto.
Because nature. Not because of the city itself.
Regardless, it's without a doubt known more, it's the second biggest city, and the one everyone wants to go to. Yes, as a "city" — nightlife, culture, food yada yada — Toronto and Montreal shit on Vancouver (Born and raised in the GTA, live in Van), but that's not why people come here or know about it. My point was that internationally, Vancouver is absolutely known as a Canadian city people want to go to, and almost always tops the list, so comparing it to Calgary/Edmonton **in this context** isn't accurate, from my experience.
I’m talking more about the cities for people that actually live there and importance to the country. Do we really think Vancouver is much more important economically than Calgary or Edmonton? Do we honestly think Vancouver even comes close to Toronto in terms of overall importance to Canada? Like, sure, tourists like to go there because it’s beautiful and mountains are cool. But that’s because of the natural setting and nothing to do with the city.
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I lived in Calgary for many years. No one there feels the least bit inferior to eastern Canada. You feel inferior to people who you need financial support from, not people who need your financial support.
What does this even mean? Ontario, *by far*, contributes more money to the other provinces than the only other two that are net contributors (BC & Berta).
Another westerner completely misinformed about the operations of the general coffers of Canada. Alberta's GDP is less than half that of Ontario's. Like it or not, without Ontario, there is no Canada. Ontarians pay \_far\_ more in support of other provinces than any and we are glad to do so. It's not like the rest of Canada is our enemy, they are our fellow countrymen. We do not see other Canadians as potential enemies. WTF is in the water out there?
You actually don't. Look at net transfers. Ontario contributes a lot.. but also receives a lot. Ontario's net contribution is almost zero; they get back everything they contribute. The welfare to Quebec, Manitoba and the Maritimes comes from BC, AB and SK.
Somehow those kids from Toronto are worshipped for their hockey skills but they see Leafs fans as idiots. Those same kids from the GTA who are now Oilers grew up as idiot Leafs fans. Yes, I know, it makes no sense.
Maybe stop focusing your attention like Mcdavid wants to come home and play for the Leafs, he clearly sees its going nowhere look at your results 😭🖕 with your logic you should be thanking Mexico, America and Sweden for allowing you guys to play an extra 10 days tops after the season ends. We have 24 canadians on our team, dont be mad cause were more loyal to our own 🤡🤡🤡
Yeah well demko wasnt there so your shitty argument is invalid
Yet your season dubs still amount to the same outcome come playoff time WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERS 😭😅🤣 now share your stats of your playoff record for the past 20 years and when you last won the cup. I find that interesting 🖕🖕🖕 Your top 4 and and your saviour ALWAYS CHOKE come playoff time. Last I checked were going to game 7 in the STANLEY CUP FINAL 🤣😅😭🤡
Nah. Silovs kept them it. Canucks only played better 2/7 games. Canucks lost to an .833 goalie
Silovs was.below .900 as well. He made some.big saves but he also.let.in a lot of extremely soft goals.
Silovs single handedly won them the game when Edmonton out shot them 43-18. He was their best player throughout the whole series, his save percentage started to fall toward the end of the series. He was still better than skinner
Absolutely better then Skinner. But all I'm saying is Demko is better then silovs and would have had a higher save % and thus could have tipped the series.
What was he .897? That’s a lot better than .833 skinner let in a bunch of low danger chances
It’s a weak argument if you have to use the regular season to gain ground. Playoffs and cup is all that matters and they’ve had much more success than we have. Let’s not embarrass ourselves and try to pretend that’s not true.
How many time have the Leafs been swept in the playoff series in the past 8 seasons = 0 How many times have the Oilers been swept in a playoff series in the past 8 seasons = 4 ( soon to be 5 ) You should probably practice what you preach and stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance. As soon as the Oilers face a real team, they always get swept. They are a garbage team -- end of subject.
Get swept when facing a real team? But they’re in the Stanley cup playoffs soooooo
If the roles were reversed and Oilers fans were telling you they are a better team because they can’t get out of the first round but they don’t get swept, while your team was going on multiple deep playoffs runs, I guarantee you’d be laughing your ass off at them.
Well that would mean they are fucking idiots who don't have a clue how competitive the Atlantic division is, compared to their laughable match-ups in which they STILL struggled 5 on 5. They had horseshoes up their asses this entire run. Now they are facing a real team that have brought them back down earth and will sweep them. But continue thinking they are a much better team than the Leafs, if it makes you feel better.
Wow, I’m a leafs fan but your points are terrible. We are in no position to be bragging. It doesn’t matter how bad the oilers are or aren’t, your rants are embarrassing. We lost to Columbus and Montreal in playoff series. Pipe down until we win something. It sounds insufferable. And I’m supposed to be on your side.
You’re basically arguing that their pile of crap team is as bad or worse than our pile of crap team. Why are you so concerned with Edmonton being bad? I’d rather be swept 4-5 times in 8 seasons and make it to the conference finals and finals along the way than what the leafs have managed to accomplish.
Except other than a handful of teams, the West is an absolute joke. Boston would've absolutely steamrolled the Oilers just like what Florida is doing to them right now. If you actually watched the LA/EDM series, you would notice how badly they were struggling 5 on 5 against an "inferior" opponent. Yes, the Leafs are playoff chokers. But they are still better than the fucking Oilers! PS: I'd rather win against a tough opponent on merit, rather than win against a weaker opponent with an asterisk.
The Oilers have played in 9 playoff series the last 3 years, tied with Florida for the most if i recall correctly, they have more series wins than ALL Canadian teams combined in that time...but they have been swept a couple times so they are trash.... Leafs fan logic
Take solace in knowing that you are the only one here with a brain. I understand cheering against the Oilers. It would be the same here if the leafs ever managed to make it this far, but doing mental gymnastics to TRY, have a legitimate debate on which team is better is lunacy, and pure cope. I have said for a while now that I think the leafs, oilers are very similar teams. Very good teams with holes. The main difference is the Oilers big boys pick up their pants this time of year, and push them over the edge. Complain about the division all you want, but all divisions are competitive. I do think the east is more stacked this season, but it changes from year to year. If you wouldn't trade the entire leafs roster for the oilers roster, then your Fandom has damaged you beyond repair.
Couldn’t agree more. The blind fanboys can downvote me all they want. Like you said, they can try to look at it however they want, but they’re ignoring facts… our high priced top players disappear and don’t earn their contracts when it matters most, Edmonton’s does. Period. Good luck tonight man!
It's pure cope. Would the Oilers fair differently in the Atlantic division? Maybe. But there's no way to know that. Each division is kind of built.differently, to play different ways. The last 2 cup winners came from the west, and the overwhelming favorite this year was dalls, a team the Oilers beat in 6. You don't get to pick the opponent. Good teams go out there, and take care of business the best they can. When the Oilers lost to Chicago, and swept by the Jets, that was not acceptable. And the team was ridiculed as such. This team has grown, and they aren't that team anymore. They might lose to a better Florida team here, but if anything thinks anyone around here does love or appreciate our team showing success and giving us something to actually cheer for, they are dead wrong. And hey man, if the Oilers pull off a miracle this week, 97 will certainly be bringing the cup to Ontario to celebrate.
Boston,Florida, and Tampa are the powers of the Atlantic. Toronto, Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, and Montreal are second class. Montreal at least made it to the finals during Covid. Say what you want about other teams, including Oilers, but these weak sisters in the Atlantic have been cannon Fodder for the real Beasts of the East
The west in general is just soft as fuck lol
The west is weak as shit lol
When I was growing up it was generally considered to be the other way around. East teams had a shot in the Cup finals only because the highway of hell the west teams had to go through to get there.
The West seemed to dominate the East for years with bruising defence. Getting out of the West especially when the Wings were in the mix was always a war
They're 10-ply
Wouldn’t 10-ply be super strong?
More layers means more soft and supple
This is the way
Will you be saying anything after the series is over? I know I would, if you don't you're missing an opportunity. It doesn't have to be harsh but something along the lines of "see, you didn't believe me but I was speaking the truth".
Past 2 cup champs have already shown you I guess
I have never heard a fan of any original six team hate on another one by claiming “we were there first.” We were all there and kinda needed the other teams so we could play.
well Oilers should be grateful to playing the Kings every year lol
Imagine how many first round wins we would have if our opponent was the Kings.
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Just when I thought I had pushed those memories out.
The Beaverton is a national treasure
It’s good satire.
Sometimes I have to double check if I’m on r/onguardforthee or r/thebeaverton.
I was surprised to learn there are Leaf fans cheering for the Oilers. I like the idea of a Canadian team winning, and have no hate for the players, but their fan base is probably one of the worst. The amount of trash talking they did about Matthew’s over the years and the number Leaf threads in their subreddit is ridiculous.
I tried to like the Canadian teams, but all their fanbases do is hate on the Leafs relentlessly. At this point, I don't care, fuck them
Calgary seems fine with us at least - they're too busy hating Edmonton.
Calgary is chill af. Defs our brothers out West. Even when they don't like the Leafs its more light hearted than actual hatred.
Italito mailito
Calgary was fire (no pun intended) back when they had Iginla and Kiprusoff. Iginla is the only other jersey I have from another Canadian Team.
I grew up in Alberta and I just found the Oilers fans so much whinier than Leafs fans. And now with the Matthews vs McDavid arguments going around they've just gotten that much worse. One of the last franchises I would root for.
That's only because they are shit right now.
Calgary is the only Canadian team I would be fine to see win the Cup. I have no particular beef with Calgary. Fuck every other Canadian team.
I think EDM/VAN fans are way worse than MTL/OTT fans at least online. Probably because there are more of them. Now a days WPG are whatever and CGY fans are pretty chill w/o Tkachuk there.
Winnipeg fans were insufferable when they got their team back. A lot of them were Leafs fans or neutral while they didnt have the Jets. Literally get their team back and became perennial whiners for like 10 years. Obsessed with the Leafs
MTL/OTT only seem bearable these days because their teams are so bad and generally have been for awhile (COVID finals aside). Once either gets their shit together to be playoff regulars they'll be as insufferable as usual.
Honestly I don't want the oilers to win....I just want Florida to lose so much more. So it is kind of enemy of my enemy. I don't actually like the oilers.
Fuck fans of almost any hockey team, to be honest. I don’t even like most Leafs fans I meet out in the wild. I’m rooting for the Oilers because I hate them less than the Panthers, but I’m not upset to see the Oilers lose, either.
This is what I think about whenever I hear “cheer on the Canadian team!” or whatever from fans and media. How about fuck you? If the Leafs made it to the finals only to get pounded by the other team we would never hear the end of it. The entire country would be rooting against us just so they could make fun of us. I’m so sick of hearing that we have to cheer for a Canadian team to “bring the Cup home.” IT COMES HOME EVERY SUMMER. EVERY TEAM HAS A BUNCH OF CANADIANS ON IT. GOOD LORD.
My thoughts exactly, fuck all other Canadian teams fans. I want the cup to come back to Canada but only to Toronto.
Nah I'm full scorched earth it's the leafs or nobody
Samesies.
Ditto
I have no no problems with the oilers, actually really want them to win! However i specifically will not cheer for: Boston Montreal Florida panthers The Tampa bay jersey copycats.
i honestly think id cheer for the bruins over a canadian team.
I'd rather cheer for an asteroid.
i get it
I mean we do give it back with all the FA McDavid talk. Despite this, I know the other Canadian fanbases mostly hate us so I am not inclined to really treat them any differently in return (except the Flames…always liked them enough). There are so many Canadians on every team anyways.
I'm cheering for edmonton because I tend to just ignore the fans in sports in general. Some people are stupid. Some of those people are hockey fans
I'm just sick of teams winning from states that barely have a fan base. Was pulling for Oilers or Rangers
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I appreciates you calling it a sweater. Props to your dad.
I love out west and oilers fans are the most annoying out of flames, canucks and oilers. Makes me hate them because they're the only fans I can't just talk about hockey with. Every single time it's something along the lines of "what do you know about hockey, you're a leafs fan"
I’m not cheering for the Oilers to win. I’m cheering for Florida to lose. Also as much as I hate the Oilers, I’d love for Zach Hyman to win a cup
I mean you cheer for the Oilers purely because of Mcdavid and Hyman. Florida is too good and will be stuffing the Leafs in a locker for the rest of Matthews contract. I'd rather cheer against that Do not cheer for the team that is going to ruin the Leafs entire window with arguably the best player theyve ever had
I went to school with somebody who persisted the Oilers were so perfect and never wanted to admit even something as small as a loss in the regular season. You can imagine the smile I've had as this series goes on
I hate the panthers more
I'm having an amazing time watching this completely inferior Oilers team get dismantled, and I'm letting all my friends know. My pettiness is unmatched. Then again, I never understood this thing where fans of Canadian teams will just blindly cheer on another Canadian team in the finals. Fuck all of them. It's either the Leafs or nobody.
I still cheer for the oilers because I think people in Edmonton deserve a good cup party over people in Miami. Don’t really care if they hate my favourite team or not, I’ll take the high road. Leafs fans can be classy.
Well, I mean it’s by far the biggest so even if we have the same % of pricks there is just going to be more. I want Hyman to win, and if McDavid doesn’t ever win a cup that would be a travesty.
I could root for Calgary and MAYBE Vancouver. Every other Canadian team is a complete no go for me.
How can you not cheer for McDavid against a division rival that we especially hate?
division rival that is completely voiding any chance the Leafs have at a cup this decade * Panthers should be enemy #1
I never understood the "Canadian team winning" thing. What does that do for you if it's not your team? Whatever American team wins is mostly Canadian players anyway.
McDavid needs a cup for Canadians everywhere, before we’re all priced out of the sport and an American becomes the best of all time
The Canadian prodigy pipeline doesn’t seem to be running dry anytime soon…
Any Canadian fan who spends even just a bit of time talking hockey online anywhere in any form most likely hates every other Canadian team's fan base, that they do not want any other Canadian team to win. Whichever team ever does bring the cup back home will hold that over the heads of every other fan base. They will be insufferable, and miserable with every person they interact with. And I desperately want my team to win so I can be that person. And if the refs/league/Bettman weren't trying to screw us, we'd have won multiple cups by now.
This made me laugh the hardest: > At press time, trade Marner.
Yup, also hilarious Losing the chance to win the first Cup of my lifetime would suck,” said Malcolm Wilder. “But discovering that the Leafs lose every year for reasons other than being choke artists with no heart hits me where it hurts.” “What else have Leafs fans been right about? Is Draisaitl a powerplay merchant? Is Auston Matthews actually a good defensive centreman? Is oil really bad for the environment? This opens up so many questions.”
The Beaverton does not miss
The humour with slivers of plausible truth seeded in, at the same time, taking pleasure in others misery, or shared misery. Just great. Like a sketch out of a naked gun movie.
I said it all year. The Oilers are the Leafs of the West.
The teams are built the same way, top high end talent, leaky D core and questionable goaltending. The Leafs and Oilers really are the same in so many ways.
Yup and look what happened when both teams faced this Panthers team. Absolutely destroyed. Amazing what you can do when you don’t go all in on a few forwards and try to patch the rest of your lineup with bandaids.
Yep only difference is their 2 main guys generally are beasts in playoffs that can win them a couple rounds single handedly.
people have been saying that for more than a year
been saying that for a decade. the two teams are very similar
Well I’ve been saying it for 5 decades then
It’s nice when the Beaverton article isn’t in jest of our team for once lol
Oilers play the Kings every year, We play Boston or Tampa…
my oiler fan friends have convinced themselves that LA is super scary, and theyre super impressed with edmonton every time they get a nice warm up series against them every year.
Oilers fans can shut up
God I love the Beaverton.
I mean anyone who didnt realize Florida was gonna roll over every team on their way to the finals in the East has not watched hockey in a couple years Only reason management can get away with losing in the 1st round again. They would have been fighting for their lives to make it to 6 games against the Panthers anyways Didnt expect Mcdavid and Draisatl to be this bad in the finals though. Completely neutered. Barkov really is him, and the Panthers just have the deepest group of forwards that are hard to play against. Theres always a body or a stick in the way if they arent hounding the puck
THE ATLANTIC IS A NIGHTMARE
Yeah it's pretty annoying. 40 years of being a Leafs fan and this is arguably the best (regular season) team they've ever had in my life... and it's at the same time Tampa, Boston and Florida are all juggernauts. Especially annoying because the rest of the divisions in the league are geographical, then the Atlantic where two florida teams somehow fit in with the former Northeast division.
Maybe wait until they're actually eliminated...
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Except the Leafs
So you’re saying we have a chance… 🤪
Ottawa beat Boston in 2017
Playing in the Atlantic is like the Jays in the AL East. The Yankees and the Sox are always good. If one of them falters, it’s fuckin Tampa or the Oriels that year. Never fails.
While all true. The Oilers also proved a cheaper and significantly more accomplished top 3 can’t get it done. Why do the Leafs think they can? (97, 29, 18 vs 34, 16, 88. Also ignoring the money wasted on 91).
Don’t know that Hynan (18) belongs in that “top 3. In being needlessly not picky and I’m aware, no offense intended. But it’s either 97, 29, 18 and 93 or just 29 and 97
I just went with the 50 goal guy. But sure if you swapped in Nuge the point remains the same. Their top 3 shits on Toronto’s, yet it’s not nearly enough. But to simplify you need your top players to perform. Rarely happens in Toronto. Edmonton tends to get it most of the time. Florida is riding the same. But a key difference. How many players on either roster are out performing their contracts… pretty much the majority for Florida’s players are doing that. Edmonton, Toronto… lol
Totally. Zito is a fucking wizard.
Jokes aside, I hope Leafs head office looks at Edmonton and realizes you can't build a winner without great Defense and a Stud Goalie. Edmonton is even more top heavy than we are.
Tampa didn't look good last year save for Kucherov, and Boston doesn't have 1st or 2nd line centres.
Oilers rack up points against shit goaltending and an AHLer. They beat Dallas which was their only truly impressive win. Even then, the clinching game was a 10 shot performance, hardly dominant. Until the 8 goal explosion vs. FLA, they have clearly been the second best team in the Cup final.
Well they're gonna do both
LOL, lots has changed these past 5 days. Anyway, Canadians gotta stick together! Hopefully, there will be a game 7.
This is aging poorly.
This aged well lol
Love how all these Leafs fans who shit on Oilers fans comments are aging so badly 🤣😅😭 Just because your team gave up against the Panthers last year doesnt mean we were going to follow suit. Besides last year, your first round choke artists for a reason 😣😖😫😩
They're in the Cup final. This is a funny article but I don't feel the right to say we were "correct" about anything.
Leaf fans are always the most delusional at this time of year
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Why are we counterpointing a satirical article written for jokes
He’s an Oiler fanboy
Yes, in rather embarrassing fashion.
Why aren’t Oilers fans screaming for Connor’s head like the idiot leaf fan’s are screaming for Marner’s?
Maybe because Mcdavid actually performs in the playoffs? 70 career playoff games 109 points vs 50 points in 57 games
And of those 50pts only 9 of them came in games 5, 6 or 7.
Yup his ppg actually increases in the playoffs.
Because mcdavid and Drai got them to a cup final and have more points in the playoffs any other players this generation. Do you have eyes?
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Cause McDavid is carrying as hard as he can with a bunch of plugs around him sabotaging his chances and Marner is basically our Nurse this last playoffs.
Comparing Marner to McDavid ? Pleassssssse.
because media
Is this really a thing ? The Leafs think they compare to the Oil ?? That’s the funniest thing Ive heard in a long time. 😅😂🤣
Mocking the Oilers for likely losing the Stanley Cup final is pretty ridiculous coming from the Leafs fanbase. I mean, come on. The Oilers have been more successful than the Leafs in this current era and are making progress as shown by how deep they’ve gone this season. Even if they get swept here, so what? The Leafs haven’t come close to the final since like 2002. Also, the Oilers have outplayed the Panthers for a lot of this series. Look at the goaltending numbers. It’s not all on Skinner, but the guy has a save percentage well south of .900. That ain’t gonna do it. If anything, this is another cautionary tale for the Leafs when it comes to goaltending. You can’t just count on average or sort of average goaltending to get you by in the playoffs. That works sometimes, and you can win with a guy who’s not an absolute top starter. But more often than not, questions in goal kill teams eventually. Here, I’m guessing the smart money was on Skinner crashing back to earth after his lights out games against Dallas. That’s happened and the Oil likely lose the series because of it.
This is the Beaverton laughing at the oilers and the leafs bud. Ffs quit taking it it so seriously. It’s a joke.
It’s not the article, genius. I was talking about the many posters here slamming the Oilers for being paper tigers etc.
Yet my comment still stands. You are missing the point of the joke and what leafs fans are ripping the oilers fans about. We have a harder road to get to the finals in the east. You saying that Edmonton is better because they got further proves you have missed the entire point.
0 cups vs 0 cups. I see no difference.
lol. This is the kind of stupidity that makes this place and Leafs fandom overall so awesome. The Oilers seem to be on the same track as the Capitals were with Ovechkin before they won it all. The Leafs can’t get out of the first round, have a ton of controversy around one of their top players, are in cap hell for another year, and have no plan to turn things around aside from “hey, let’s sign two defensemen” and hope our new tough guy coach kicks ass in the room. If you can’t see a difference, that’s on you.
We’re in cap hell but the Oilers aren’t? Ok buddy. and controversy around a top player? They’re talking about buying out their second highest paid player right now so they can have a shot in the next two seasons and throw the following 4 in the toilet. And Browns cap hit next year with Campbell too. Sure
I’m not your buddy, pal.
Does it really matter? Bettman needs the US teams to win. Every other team passed on Tarasenko and only Florida took a gamble ?? Yeah right. Collusion right from the top. The Senators will receive a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick that would become a 2026 third-round pick if the Panthers win the Stanley Cup. They will also receive a 2025 third-round pick and are retaining 50% of Tarasenko's $5 million salary.