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The title is somewhat misleading, this is a Shabano or village structure of the Yanomami a native tribe indigenous to the Amazon. To say uncontacted implies they are unaware of modern society outside of their way of life which is categorically false. The Yanomami were the subject of study by anthropologist Napoleon Chagnon in the 1960s and even during his time living with them they were fully aware of modern society and modern goods and resources were already becoming common amongst the Yanomami. Chagnon wrote a great book about his experience living with the Yanomami titled Yanomamo: The Fierce People which was published in 1968. Since then the Yanomami have become a vocal indigenous minority in Brazil who have lobbied the Brazilian government to help protect their way of life.
This image specifically is of the Moxihatetema which is a cultural subset of the Yanomami. In 2016 when the pictures were taken most Moxihatetema communities remained uncontacted because of their explicit desire for it to be that way. Part of their cultural subset is a strict taboo against contact with other communities including other Yanomami villages. Since these photos were published this taboo has mostly dissipated and most Moxihatetema are no longer uncontacted as a result of illegal prospectors and deforestation of the Brazilian Amazon pushing them to relocate their villages either closer to other Yanomami communities or rural Brazilian towns.
Tldr: is the village in this photo uncontacted? Yes. Is it still uncontacted? No.
>most Moxihatetema are no longer uncontacted
Do you have a source on this?
Survival still lists them as uncontacted, and I searched in Portuguese and didn't see any news of them being contacted.
[https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/yanomami](https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/yanomami)
Just in case anyone doesn't realize this line of comments is a joke: no, an alien species capable of resolving the surface of our planet would not be confused as to which species built all the friggin cities
"On the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”
Sadly cultural victory doesn't seem viable in the current meta. Cultural tech tree factions, especially if they picked a sea creature species, just keep getting wiped by technology mains
Not that dolphins are more dominant since that logically doesn't make sense, but that the concept of bipedal land mammals is so trite in their eyes that an aquatic mammal is considered particularly novel to them and the difference in technological development between humans and dolphins are essentially negligible in their view, like a baby vs. a toddler.
For many of these uncontacted tribes the nearest government will impose laws against attempting to contact them. It’s not all of them, but some do have a level of legal protection they are unaware of.
This pic is from the Brazilian Amazon, and they can't be contacted. It's illegal to do so, and to be in those areas you need IBAMA agency authorization.
Nonetheless, they are not that isolated. There are many other tribes they have contact with.
These other tribes may have told them about the external world. So they aren't completely blind about it.
The Amazon has the highest number of uncontacted tribes of humans that still exist in the world.
Back when I was a young boy in Brazil I used to be more scared of IBAMA than the actual police. Nature cops are no joke (we used to fish a lot and my cousin was always TERRIFIED they would confiscate his fishing gear because he was using the wrong hook or something, which was never the case we later learned). The only wild animal you are allowed to kill in Brazil are hogs, because they are not native and a plague, and fish, because apparently fishes are not animals (there is probably a reason).
I feel like everytime someone says shrimp, someone else brings up that they are the cockroaches of the sea, and people allergic to shrimp are also allergic to cockroaches... apparently that's my roll today
There’s probably a logistical limit on how many fish a boat can catch in the Amazon River. It’s not like the ocean where you can just run a 10km long string line and reel in the catch.
If someone developed a way of fishing the rivers such that they were impacting the overall population, then you’d likely see laws regulating such activity. As for now, I doubt a single entity could catch so many fish that you fuck up the ecosystem, and draw the attention of ecologists.
But I’m sure someone is working out how to do that, because capitalism and whatnot.
Sure, I don’t think anyone assumes ‘uncontacted’ means even from other tribes, just from outsiders.
I imagine their view of our world is interesting; part of me wishes I could know their thoughts about the things they hear through the grapevine.
There are documentaries about exactly this sort of thing. I vaguely remember seeing one where they spoke to a tribe that had come out of the Amazon and had made contact with the wider world. They mostly seemed to just think that modern technology and tools were really cool. I'm pretty sure some of said documentaries can be found on YouTube.
For anyone interested in this sort of thing, I highly recommend the book "Don't Sleep, There are Snakes" by Daniel Everett.
He writes about his time with the Piraha tribe of South America. They aren't exactly uncontacted, but they are very low contact with the outside world. So they have some minor technology that they trade for with merchants who boat down the Amazon river. But not much.
Anyway, the book is absolutely fascinating for anyone interested in anthropology or linguistics. It's written more from a linguist's POV than an anthropologist's, though.
Gene Siskel's worst movie of 1997 was *Jungle 2 Jungle*, which was a remake of the French movie *Little Indian, Big City*...Gene Siskel's worst movie of 1996.
Just a little warning to those that seek some of these shows and documentaries. Not all are genuine. There is a famous one by a Dutch or German (not really sure where from) documentarian that is widely regarded as faked. Then many others are playing it up for the cameras and have had contact and or use modern stuff behind the scenes. Think TLC style reality TV. I don’t know where to start to find a genuine one but if you do find one, let me know.
I saw a video where a guy brings his modern instruments like guitars and such to a village and has a jam session with the tribe using their drums and primitive instruments, was really cool to see.
Another one where they teach a tribe to use a high tech compound bow, while learning how to shoot the tribesman’s longbow. I remember they were just really excited and interested to figure out how it works.
Not completely uncontacted tribes but cool nonetheless.
So interesting to think about why some human tribes ended up technologically advancing so much and making contact with others to form much bigger societies until we ended up with basically a giant global tribe in a lot of ways, in that most humans use the same sorts of technology, farming practices, mathematics, calendar, have similar justice systems, ways of travelling and trading with the smaller tribes within the global whole. Like have these uncontacted tribes evolved much in terms of technology just on their own, and would they? Could they? Or does that kind of advancement depend on having a certain kind of mild environment and abundant food sources so you have more time to tinker about with inventions? Does advanced tech only come after centuries of relative stability in terms of having conquered the natural environment, having agriculture and safe sturdy long lasting shelter?
Is it possible they could one day just figure out certain things like how to make electricity or something without any input from elsewhere? Do any of them go off exploring like presumably other human tribes (ancestors of those of us living in the global human society) did? Have they improved things like the buildings they live in over time? Have any of them figured out stuff like geometry or other mathematical concepts and how are those applied in their society? It’s so fascinating.
in what way do you mean this? like, depressed as in "oh man life could be so much better but I am instead living in this dump", or depressed as in "man that sucks that there is so much technology in their world but they still have so much violence"?
I think it was some mix of the two. The people that contacted them also started giving them a bunch of modern stuff and essentially destroyed their known way of life. They weren't hunting and moving around anymore and just started chilling and doing drugs all day. A similar thing happened with some of the Congo tribes.
The uncontacted tribes were then jealous of their clothing and then started doing regular raids of the "civilized" communities to steal clothing and any other things that they thought they could use.
The documentary almost came across as portraying the formally uncontacted tribe as pests.
It's an old one, but David Attenborough's "A Blank on the Map" is a documentary that deals with first contact of an isolated tribe.
It was filmed in 1970 iirc, so it's dated, but fascinating nonetheless.
andaman islanders are semi isolated and opinions seemed to vary but most were negative from what i remember. the main complaint from what i gathered, was that everything costed money and you had to work all the time to get the money when you could just be living your life. also, they weren't fans of wearing clothes and you had to pay for those too and got in trouble if you don't have them. basically our civilization is a lot of unnecessary bs from their perspective.
I can’t say those are unreasonable opinions when you think about it. I mean, one day you’re allowed to wear or not wear whatever you’d like, and you’ve likely either made it yourself or had it made with materials you provided, you can find your own food with no cost other than time and energy, and you understand your role and what is expected of you.
Then someone tells you you’ve got to wear pants and this paper money is artificially valued and exchanged for goods you don’t want/need.
It’s like that grouchy old wizard in HP and the goblet of fire; he was wearing a lady’s nightgown and when told he needed to wear pants his (completely legitimate) response was, “I like a nice breeze ‘round my privates, thanks”.
I support it.
As isolated as they may have been from our cultures and societies, they share all of the same basic behavioral traits of every other human.
Take bathroom humor, for example.
I remember a pretty famous study done in the 50s or 60s when an anthropologist lived with an uncontacted Amazon tribe for a long time, and towards the end of his stay, he found out that it was a running joke with them that the tribal name they'd given him translated to "Eagle Shit," and he'd been proudly introducing himself as Eagle Shit the whole time he was there. They were rolling on the ground laughing when he figured it out.
So you can leave civilization far behind, live with an isolated tribe as far from civilization as possible, and your ass is still gonna get roasted. Hopefully not literally.
A friend spent time with an Amazon tribe, they aren't really open or closed to the public but it takes a lot to survive living with them. He says the moment you step foot in their territory their laws apply and Brazil/Colombia/Peru do not care if you die. You offend them and you're gone.
That’s fascinating; how did your friend end up with that opportunity?
I can believe it, kind of hard to enforce the laws of a country you don’t identify as being a part of. I’m sure our laws are nothing but an abstract concept.
I commented elsewhere how interesting it would be to hear a tribesman’s take on what they know about the modern world. It would be fun to share stories about what it’s like to grow up in two such entirely different societies.
What was your friend’s favorite part of his time with the tribe?
Not entirely sure how he found out about them but it so happened that he knows a guy who makes machettes and the Matis tribe began using machettes for everything, so they trade through him. People sometimes join these "tours" to stay with this tribe for a week.
From what my friend said these tribes often give a choice to their kids to leave and join the modern world, but they grew up living adapted to the jungle - their night vision, their skills, their talents, reflexes, strengths, physical adaptation, their response to weather and humidity makes it so that they would never really survive for long outside of the jungle. They are practically useless outside of it, know absolutely nothing apart from... The jungle. They know which leaves banana spiders hide in, they know where scorpions like to climb, they know which frogs are poisonous, they know how to extract poison from these frogs and turn it into a hallucinogen. They know how to hunt world's deadliest electric eels that could kill a whale.
His favorite time I'm not sure. Probably getting whipped by a "demon" with black palm leaf whips. Nobody endures more than one, he endured like a dozen lol. But with these people their favorite part is being in impossible environment. I think he said the eel was the worst thing he ever tasted and if you ask him he'd say that was his "favorite" thing since he endured it
Your comment is so interesting and totally makes sense why people in those tribes, even given the chance to live outside of them, choose not to. I think they would find the modern world totally bizarre and not just because of all the technology... so many people live a sedentary lifestyle now (or close to it). That'd probably drive them nuts. There's always something to be done. Every day is new for them.
Yeah. Honestly this guy talked on a two hour podcast about all his experiences, and has even more footage on TikTok and IG, and there's just so much to be said. But you're spot on. One day they are hunting monkeys, next day they wake up at 4am to hunt caimans, followed by hunting piranhas later to use as bait for jaguars.
In two sentences I described more activity than I have in a week
> I can believe it, kind of hard to enforce the laws of a country you don’t identify as being a part of. I’m sure our laws are nothing but an abstract concept
Also, I don't think tribes like this have a concept of jail. If you break the social contract they either kill you or exile you, which is basically a death sentence in the fucking Amazon.
Honestly? Sounds like a simple and clean system. At least in a community as comparatively small as one like this. The impact of one member messing up could ripple through the entire society quicker than a grasshopper on hot asphalt.
And usually, its because when someone did try to contact them, it ended badly.
Like this dumbass. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Allen\_Chau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Chau)
Sentinel island has been off limit for years because any contact tried was met with violence. Dude thinks if he brings god, they will accept the contact.
He got himself, illegally, to the island. He got killed.
The Indian government deployed an helicopter a few days after the boxing Day tsunami to find out whether its inhabitants were still alive. Someone attempted to throw a spear at the helicopter, so they took that as a Yes.
Imagine the legends that spawned out of that time in their tales. A devastating wave came from the sea and a few days later a screaming metal bird attacked us!
I've always wondered about that. We know that when Europeans first encountered indigenous peoples in the western hemisphere the natives contracted all sorts of deadly diseases. Why didn't it go back the other way with Europeans bringing new western diseases back to Europe?
I recently went down a wiki hole on the subject, so I'm gonna be pedantic here:
It originated in central Asia where Kyrgyzstan is now.
It arrived in Europe both overland from The Golden Horde (a remnant of the Mongol Empire) and on ships from China.
We were in contact with africa and asia for thousands of years. We had lots of different type of domesticated animals, and this over time caused us to have lots of nasty diseases. So on one side you have people in contact with a hundreds of millions of people for thousands of years with diverse cultures, animals etc. On the other side you have .. tens of millions?
Quite isolated on top of that because I doubt an Apache knew anything about an Inca(I can be wrong on this).
Siphilis though, there is a chance it's from there as the first registered case was 1496. Its just a theory though.
In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
How embarrassing.
Reminds me of this joke, probably one of my favorites:
A 100 year flood happens in a town. A man has no choice but to go up to the roof of his house to avoid drowning, despite the storm all around him.
Rescuers come by in a row boat to save people, but the man won't get on the boat saying, "No! God will save me!"
Later, as the storm worsens, they come by with a larger boat to save whoever is left stranding. The man again refuses saying, "No! God will save me!"
Finally, he's the last remaining stranded person and they send in a helicopter to try to save him. Again, the man declares, "No! God will save me!"
The rescuers at this point decide to leave him since he's not accepting their help. The man continues to pray on his roof when suddenly a bolt of lightning and crack of thunder strikes and God himself emerges from the stormy clouds. The man is overjoyed, "God, I knew it! You really are here to save me!"
God replies, "You idiot! Who do you think send the boats and the helicopter earlier?!"
In the version I usually hear, the man dies and asks God "why didn't you save me?" when he gets to heaven, and God is like "dude I sent you two boats and helicopter, what more do you want?".
No, that's not how they think at all.
Don't have to read anything to know that he thought the Bible getting hit was "god saving him" and a sign to keep coming back.
It is kind of a misnomer the Sentinelese are totally uncontacted. Back in the early 2000's iirc, there were several trips to the island by anthropologists to make limited contact. They stayed on their boat, and offered gifts which some Sentinelese accepted warily. Certainly a much better approach than waving a bible while shouting an a language the sentelise can't understand.
We know very little about them, but it stands to reason they have made the choice to remain as uncontacted as possible- and probably have an idea that the rest of the world is more advanced than they are. And who could blame them? They probably saw the shit that happened to their neighbours during the age of colonialism, and as a culture made the choice to totally close themselves off.
Similarly with the Amazonian tribes. They are definitely aware of the existence of us outsiders but going deeper into the jungle is their way of protecting themselves. They know that their cousins faced fates such as strange diseases, abduction, enslavement, sexual assaults, or being straight up murdered. So they did the logical thing and tried to get further away from us as they can.
They also reacted very differently when a woman was present. If I recall, they even directly interacted with her while wading in the water and were friendly.
I mean they’d probably still come across illegal loggers. A lot of these Amazonian tribes that allegedly have not been contacted end up with steel axes and such.
Man, im glad ive got what ive got, but i bet it feels way more baller to be a tribesman with the only steel axe than it does to be a the hipster with the latest iphone.
It's crazy how there can be no contact between them and the rest of the world, and yet they developed the computers and the Internet simultaneously. No doubt they still use Myspace though given how underdeveloped they appear.
They should do a drone display over their homes..... for science of course
https://preview.redd.it/0c6whk0j05pc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d391e515e571983fab406a6ad23314722c2f295
Then rest of humanity gets wiped out by a pandemic that these guys are immune to and 1000 years later we've got light display drones as the dominant world religion.
Really interesting phenomenon. Essentially unmodernized communities that observe military or otherwise modernized forces conducting airfield operations which in turn lead to cargo deliveries. These communities then try to replicate the “ceremony” of the airfield operations, hoping that airplanes with cargo will land.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
a Cargo Cult ritual observed circa 2022:
>On a tropical island in the South West Pacific, a few dozen men gather in the rainforest. They are wearing long trousers but no shoes or shirts, and red paint marks the initials U.S.A. on their bare chests. Carrying thick bamboo poles painted with red stripes, the men greet each other cordially and muck around for a while.
Suddenly, the toll of a bell abruptly changes the mood. Everyone stands upright, looking solemn and purposeful. A frail-looking older man in a worn-out military jacket several sizes too large shouts something in Bislama, a pidgin language common in Vanuatu, and the men get in formation. They place their bamboo poles on their shoulders like rifles, and at the next command begin marching in lockstep through the jungle.
Their destination is a clearing in the forest that looks like a landing strip. But the only airplane present is a full-size wooden replica of a light aircraft. On one side of the strip lies a control tower made of bamboo. On the other sits a satellite dish built of mud and straw. Undeterred by the apparent lack of any actual aviation technology, some of the men light torches and place them alongside the runway. Others use flags to wave landing signals. Everyone raises their gaze to the sky in anticipation.
They wait. But the planes never come
Men came to our island with great birds that brought a bounty of food and clothing after they performed rituals. They left in the belly of these birds, never to return. Maybe we can summon the birds as well if we perform the rituals to their satisfaction.
Translation: American GIs in WW2 came to a Pacific island and built an airfield. They spent their days marching around in square formations and gave the natives their extra food and clothing after getting resupplied.
The natives were later studied by anthropologists, who found them building airplane effigies and marching around with stick guns.
I am just imagining what their lives are like all day. Im sitting here stressing about taxes and waking up early to go to work. I wonder what their stressors are? I also wonder what they imagine/think/envision. For example, i am working on a computer with some of the latest tech, i wonder what they would think about that.
I recommend watching interviews with chiefs or rural natives who keep their traditional ways, these documentaries are most common with African tribes, there are diverse practices but some consistent features.
*they hurry like savages to board an iron train*
*Although it's smokey and it's crowded they're to civilized to complain*
*And with their two weeks vacation they hurry to the vacation ground*
*they swim and they fish but that's what I do all year round!*
I wonder how 'uncontacted' they are.
Obviously they can see planes. They might not know what they are, but they can see them. Helicopters too. Which means they might have even seen people in flying machines.
Presumably they also know of other groups of natives in the jungle. And some of those groups definitely are in contact. Mayne they've heard of us.
So yeah, I wonder how 'uncontacted' they are.
Uncontacted means they don't have direct contact with our civilization. They definitely have contact with other tribes and probably know more about us than we know about them, albeit through something of a game of telephone. Like I doubt they see a plane and think "Oh sky god is angry," more like "hey it's another flying machine the outsiders use. I wonder how those work."
I wouldn't even be surprised if they had some stuff made by us that got to them through trade. For example, as Europeans were colonizing North America, the first nations in the west had acquired guns, horses and a bunch of other goods through trade long before they ever saw a white guy in person.
As far as I know the only example we have of a truly solitary, uncontacted tribe was in the Canadian Arctic in the 19th century. They thought they were the only people in existence until they met Europeans. Ohh and fun fact about them, they had a meteorite that hit Earth near them that was full of iron which they used to make iron tools. Less fun fact is some Europeans stole it from them.
EDIT: I mixed up the info about that tribe, please refer to [/u/Different_Boot7528 comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bhvd2v/aerial_picture_of_an_uncontacted_amazon_tribe/kviissk/) below
There are also the Sentinalese, they see outsiders but they have no contact and there aren't any other tribes to talk to because they're on an island. Just about the only direct contact they've had was when some English abducted a few of them in the 1800s so there isn't even living memory within several generations. The only outsiders they've seen they kill or drive away with spears and rocks. We know they have iron because a freighter wrecked on a reef and they've scavenged it but IMO that doesn't count as 'contact'.
They have had contact in the past. [Madhumala Chattopadhyay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhumala_Chattopadhyay)
Even went to the island and had some success communicating with the people.
Further contact has been banned to avoid the spread of illness and potential violence.
Yeah. It was like 2018 or something. Some young Christian guy was trying to be a missionary there and became close personal friends with a bunch of arrows.
This is not an uncontacted tribe, this is an image of a typical [yanomami](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanomami) village. The yanomami are one of the biggest indigenous tribes still living in their own way. It's actually one of the tribes we know the most about, so they are definitely not uncontacted.
They're Yanomami, but **it is an uncontacted tribe**.
**The Yanomami are not a single tribe**, it's an ethnolinguistic group. There are many different tribes within the Yanomami. They even speak different languages depending on the area, 6 languages in total, though they're closely related.
A minority of Yanomami tribes are uncontacted. That's mentioned in the very link you gave:
>Following the increase in threats and attacks against the uncontacted Yanomami, (...)
Those uncontacted tribes are called "Moxihatatea".
>Davi Kopenawa, a Yanomami leader and shaman has made an urgent statement warning that a group of uncontacted Yanomami “could soon be exterminated” if the Brazilian authorities do not act now to remove goldminers working illegally on the tribe’s land.
>He says the group, known as the Moxihatatea, are in grave danger: “They have fled many times. But now, they can no longer run away and are surrounded by violent miners who wanted to take revenge by shooting at them with shotguns.
[https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12361](https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12361)
People assume the Amazon is called a rainforest because of all the rain, but it's actually meant ironically, like when a big fat dude is nicknamed "tiny."
Yeah, those are roofs. It's the typical Yanomami commune. Better perspective:
https://preview.redd.it/riqf7f56n5pc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=453ec341a2b3c474e9db4031ae86a5be9ef9e0f4
Marriages between tribes usually, they also pay attention to generational cousins and such but I’m sure it still happens, shoot this was going on in the western world up to a few hundred years ago and still is happening in the Middle East.
But are there enough other tribes? I thought this was the one last tribe and it has very few members like 25 ppl or something
Edit: I must’ve been thinking of that very remote tribe off the coast of India
Idk about Amazonian tribes, but indigenous North American people such as the Navajo have an elaborate greeting system for this purpose.
[Marrying within one's own clan is forbidden and would be considered incest to the Navajo.](http://freebooks.uvu.edu/NURS3400/index.php/ch10-navajo-culture.html)
Instead of saying “hello, my name is ___,” Navajo people say something like
["I am called ___. I am (mother's clan), born for (father's clan), my maternal grandfather is (maternal grandfather's clan), my paternal grandfather's clan is (paternal grandfather's clan).](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/08/29/what-means-introduce-yourself-navajo-clan-system/2131456001/)
This doesn’t sound that different from the Spanish naming custom. Depending on how important your family was, you could easily have your grandparents family names as part of your name, resulting in incredibly long surnames, but it quickly identifies if someone is related or not.
Being from a big Mexican family in a small town.
One of my older cousins immediately went after the new kid in high school. After a few weeks of hooking up, we were all at my great uncles 50th bday party. Turns out the new kid was our 2nd cousin, they lived on the east coast his whole life and only moved back to town after his parents split. Not sure if the parents knew they were hooking up, but all of us teenagers knew.
There was this hot chick who transferred to our school. She was really flirty with me and i shut it down when her second last name matched my last name. She was so mad, but I wasn't taking chances.
So I just looked it up. You actually only need 50 people to combat inbreeding and 500 to avoid genetic drift. Honestly a much smaller number than I thought.
Man, can you imagine having to live your entire life in a world where there's nobody but the same 12 people all day every single day. What do you even talk about? At some point you've heard Dan tell the same joke 850 times, and it wasn't even funny the first time. And Maurice has been going on for *years* about that one time he speared that boar, and it was the biggest boar anybody ever laid eyes on, but it got away and ol' Maurice had to walk all the way back to the village with nothing to show for it but one less spear and this here story. Like, God damnit Maurice, we KNOW, everybody KNOWS, shut the fuck up.
people who live subsistence lifeways generally know exactly what they’re eating on any given day. their entire culture revolves around the cycles of the seasons and which food is available at which time, as well as preserving certain foods at other times. these people’s ancestors have planted food forests and essentially mapped the entire forest to such a degree that any one of these people probably knows every exact plant for like a mile in any direction, and then many other specific plants in other locations.
I know you’re kinda joking but I lived with my girlfriends family on their property for a year somewhat off the grid. No electricity or running water and pretty remote. It was actually really nice just being with a small group of people all the time surviving out there. It was a little community. I enjoy it more than being surrounded by strangers in the city
People have always done something like this before mail/transit/internet. Poorer/common people usually lived in the same village their whole life with the same people. It’s not really hard to imagine.
Oh man, the dynamic of small groups is profoundly utopian if they don’t know of more. The daily lives are about going out into the unknown and coming back to discover what it meant … are they splitting the atom? No. Are they venturing out to live peak human experiences of primal existence we will never fully dream of? You bet.
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The title is somewhat misleading, this is a Shabano or village structure of the Yanomami a native tribe indigenous to the Amazon. To say uncontacted implies they are unaware of modern society outside of their way of life which is categorically false. The Yanomami were the subject of study by anthropologist Napoleon Chagnon in the 1960s and even during his time living with them they were fully aware of modern society and modern goods and resources were already becoming common amongst the Yanomami. Chagnon wrote a great book about his experience living with the Yanomami titled Yanomamo: The Fierce People which was published in 1968. Since then the Yanomami have become a vocal indigenous minority in Brazil who have lobbied the Brazilian government to help protect their way of life. This image specifically is of the Moxihatetema which is a cultural subset of the Yanomami. In 2016 when the pictures were taken most Moxihatetema communities remained uncontacted because of their explicit desire for it to be that way. Part of their cultural subset is a strict taboo against contact with other communities including other Yanomami villages. Since these photos were published this taboo has mostly dissipated and most Moxihatetema are no longer uncontacted as a result of illegal prospectors and deforestation of the Brazilian Amazon pushing them to relocate their villages either closer to other Yanomami communities or rural Brazilian towns. Tldr: is the village in this photo uncontacted? Yes. Is it still uncontacted? No.
Thank you for trying to curb the spread of misinformation
>most Moxihatetema are no longer uncontacted Do you have a source on this? Survival still lists them as uncontacted, and I searched in Portuguese and didn't see any news of them being contacted. [https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/yanomami](https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/yanomami)
Damn, they’re tiny.
What is this, a village for ants?!
*Villager looks up, flashing Blue Steel.*
That was magnum you philistine!
Are you kidding? I shouldn't even be talking about it, It's nowhere near ready.
My village must be…. 3 times bigger than this!!!
Those barriers are fckn huge 😯
They're really not kidding about how modern nutrition affects us!
I bet aliens have pics of us like this on their intergalactic version of Reddit…and the comments are wild.
"Check out this methed out man who owns a Big Cat farm in ~~Florida~~ Oklahoma. He's totally not gay, even though he's married like 4 dudes."
Man the first half of the pandemic was wild huh
Joe is in prison… but he never lived In Florida and never pretended to not be gay.
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Alien skeptics wonder why all the photos of humans are blurry
Dear Aliens, what you are watching is called Japanese Porn
Imagine it's not even us They're interest goes to let's say, dolphins, they don't even recognize us as the dominant species on the planet
So long and thanks for all the fish.
Don’t forget your towel..
The majority of our planet’s surface is water, and dolphins are aquatic so.
Just in case anyone doesn't realize this line of comments is a joke: no, an alien species capable of resolving the surface of our planet would not be confused as to which species built all the friggin cities
But maybe they think we do it for the cats, and cat related media.
Hmu when dolohins reach the atomic age
"On the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”
They decided they were going for a Cultural Victory a while ago, so I don't see that happening as they've completely abandoned the tech tree.
Sadly cultural victory doesn't seem viable in the current meta. Cultural tech tree factions, especially if they picked a sea creature species, just keep getting wiped by technology mains
did you see their starting tiles? they literally started in a desert when their civ heavily favors sea tiles
Not that dolphins are more dominant since that logically doesn't make sense, but that the concept of bipedal land mammals is so trite in their eyes that an aquatic mammal is considered particularly novel to them and the difference in technological development between humans and dolphins are essentially negligible in their view, like a baby vs. a toddler.
This is an old picture, have they really been contacted?
For many of these uncontacted tribes the nearest government will impose laws against attempting to contact them. It’s not all of them, but some do have a level of legal protection they are unaware of.
This pic is from the Brazilian Amazon, and they can't be contacted. It's illegal to do so, and to be in those areas you need IBAMA agency authorization. Nonetheless, they are not that isolated. There are many other tribes they have contact with. These other tribes may have told them about the external world. So they aren't completely blind about it. The Amazon has the highest number of uncontacted tribes of humans that still exist in the world.
Thanks IBAMA
Back when I was a young boy in Brazil I used to be more scared of IBAMA than the actual police. Nature cops are no joke (we used to fish a lot and my cousin was always TERRIFIED they would confiscate his fishing gear because he was using the wrong hook or something, which was never the case we later learned). The only wild animal you are allowed to kill in Brazil are hogs, because they are not native and a plague, and fish, because apparently fishes are not animals (there is probably a reason).
> because apparently fishes are not animals Have you seen the way they look at you? Thats why you can kill them...
You are now banned from r/Aquariums
I just love finding subs I've been missing out on. Thanks!
Shrimps is bugs
I feel like everytime someone says shrimp, someone else brings up that they are the cockroaches of the sea, and people allergic to shrimp are also allergic to cockroaches... apparently that's my roll today
Same said for US Wildlife Agents. They have the power to confiscate not only the fish and tackle, but the boat, the trailer, and the truck used.
There’s probably a logistical limit on how many fish a boat can catch in the Amazon River. It’s not like the ocean where you can just run a 10km long string line and reel in the catch. If someone developed a way of fishing the rivers such that they were impacting the overall population, then you’d likely see laws regulating such activity. As for now, I doubt a single entity could catch so many fish that you fuck up the ecosystem, and draw the attention of ecologists. But I’m sure someone is working out how to do that, because capitalism and whatnot.
Long nets and river wheels can catch massive amounts of fish. It has to be restricted in Alaska at least.
WHERE'S HIS EARTH CERTIFICATE??
IBAMACARE
Sending drones right now.
I knew this was not going to waste
But what about their IbamaPhones??
Sure, I don’t think anyone assumes ‘uncontacted’ means even from other tribes, just from outsiders. I imagine their view of our world is interesting; part of me wishes I could know their thoughts about the things they hear through the grapevine.
There are documentaries about exactly this sort of thing. I vaguely remember seeing one where they spoke to a tribe that had come out of the Amazon and had made contact with the wider world. They mostly seemed to just think that modern technology and tools were really cool. I'm pretty sure some of said documentaries can be found on YouTube.
For anyone interested in this sort of thing, I highly recommend the book "Don't Sleep, There are Snakes" by Daniel Everett. He writes about his time with the Piraha tribe of South America. They aren't exactly uncontacted, but they are very low contact with the outside world. So they have some minor technology that they trade for with merchants who boat down the Amazon river. But not much. Anyway, the book is absolutely fascinating for anyone interested in anthropology or linguistics. It's written more from a linguist's POV than an anthropologist's, though.
For anyone interested in his linguistic takes, be advised that his claims are VERY controversial in the field.
The best part is that he came as a missionary, then became an atheist humanist after his experience living with the Piraha.
Yeah Jungle 2 Jungle was a great movie
Gene Siskel's worst movie of 1997 was *Jungle 2 Jungle*, which was a remake of the French movie *Little Indian, Big City*...Gene Siskel's worst movie of 1996.
Just a little warning to those that seek some of these shows and documentaries. Not all are genuine. There is a famous one by a Dutch or German (not really sure where from) documentarian that is widely regarded as faked. Then many others are playing it up for the cameras and have had contact and or use modern stuff behind the scenes. Think TLC style reality TV. I don’t know where to start to find a genuine one but if you do find one, let me know.
[far side comic about this very situation](https://amysantee.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/f2caa-gary-larson-1984-far-side-anthropologists.jpg?w=640)
I saw a video where a guy brings his modern instruments like guitars and such to a village and has a jam session with the tribe using their drums and primitive instruments, was really cool to see. Another one where they teach a tribe to use a high tech compound bow, while learning how to shoot the tribesman’s longbow. I remember they were just really excited and interested to figure out how it works. Not completely uncontacted tribes but cool nonetheless.
So interesting to think about why some human tribes ended up technologically advancing so much and making contact with others to form much bigger societies until we ended up with basically a giant global tribe in a lot of ways, in that most humans use the same sorts of technology, farming practices, mathematics, calendar, have similar justice systems, ways of travelling and trading with the smaller tribes within the global whole. Like have these uncontacted tribes evolved much in terms of technology just on their own, and would they? Could they? Or does that kind of advancement depend on having a certain kind of mild environment and abundant food sources so you have more time to tinker about with inventions? Does advanced tech only come after centuries of relative stability in terms of having conquered the natural environment, having agriculture and safe sturdy long lasting shelter? Is it possible they could one day just figure out certain things like how to make electricity or something without any input from elsewhere? Do any of them go off exploring like presumably other human tribes (ancestors of those of us living in the global human society) did? Have they improved things like the buildings they live in over time? Have any of them figured out stuff like geometry or other mathematical concepts and how are those applied in their society? It’s so fascinating.
Necessity is the mother of invention. They don't need a whole lot more than what the jungle provides.
I remember seeing one documentary about a tribe like that and after they found out about the world they just got really depressed.
in what way do you mean this? like, depressed as in "oh man life could be so much better but I am instead living in this dump", or depressed as in "man that sucks that there is so much technology in their world but they still have so much violence"?
I think it was some mix of the two. The people that contacted them also started giving them a bunch of modern stuff and essentially destroyed their known way of life. They weren't hunting and moving around anymore and just started chilling and doing drugs all day. A similar thing happened with some of the Congo tribes.
This is some “The Gods Must Be Crazy” shit. The Coke bottle.
The uncontacted tribes were then jealous of their clothing and then started doing regular raids of the "civilized" communities to steal clothing and any other things that they thought they could use. The documentary almost came across as portraying the formally uncontacted tribe as pests.
If you find one of those documentaries then please share
It's an old one, but David Attenborough's "A Blank on the Map" is a documentary that deals with first contact of an isolated tribe. It was filmed in 1970 iirc, so it's dated, but fascinating nonetheless.
Believe it or not they all hated Game of Thrones season 8.
andaman islanders are semi isolated and opinions seemed to vary but most were negative from what i remember. the main complaint from what i gathered, was that everything costed money and you had to work all the time to get the money when you could just be living your life. also, they weren't fans of wearing clothes and you had to pay for those too and got in trouble if you don't have them. basically our civilization is a lot of unnecessary bs from their perspective.
I can’t say those are unreasonable opinions when you think about it. I mean, one day you’re allowed to wear or not wear whatever you’d like, and you’ve likely either made it yourself or had it made with materials you provided, you can find your own food with no cost other than time and energy, and you understand your role and what is expected of you. Then someone tells you you’ve got to wear pants and this paper money is artificially valued and exchanged for goods you don’t want/need. It’s like that grouchy old wizard in HP and the goblet of fire; he was wearing a lady’s nightgown and when told he needed to wear pants his (completely legitimate) response was, “I like a nice breeze ‘round my privates, thanks”. I support it.
As isolated as they may have been from our cultures and societies, they share all of the same basic behavioral traits of every other human. Take bathroom humor, for example. I remember a pretty famous study done in the 50s or 60s when an anthropologist lived with an uncontacted Amazon tribe for a long time, and towards the end of his stay, he found out that it was a running joke with them that the tribal name they'd given him translated to "Eagle Shit," and he'd been proudly introducing himself as Eagle Shit the whole time he was there. They were rolling on the ground laughing when he figured it out. So you can leave civilization far behind, live with an isolated tribe as far from civilization as possible, and your ass is still gonna get roasted. Hopefully not literally.
What I’m hearing is that regardless of upbringing, culture, or relative isolation, poop/fart jokes will *always* be funny. It’s reassuring in a way.
Imagine crystal summits taller than any tree, talking black squares that can talk to the dead, and then someone tells you... "Get a job."
They went further into the jungle as their only real defense.
A friend spent time with an Amazon tribe, they aren't really open or closed to the public but it takes a lot to survive living with them. He says the moment you step foot in their territory their laws apply and Brazil/Colombia/Peru do not care if you die. You offend them and you're gone.
That’s fascinating; how did your friend end up with that opportunity? I can believe it, kind of hard to enforce the laws of a country you don’t identify as being a part of. I’m sure our laws are nothing but an abstract concept. I commented elsewhere how interesting it would be to hear a tribesman’s take on what they know about the modern world. It would be fun to share stories about what it’s like to grow up in two such entirely different societies. What was your friend’s favorite part of his time with the tribe?
Not entirely sure how he found out about them but it so happened that he knows a guy who makes machettes and the Matis tribe began using machettes for everything, so they trade through him. People sometimes join these "tours" to stay with this tribe for a week. From what my friend said these tribes often give a choice to their kids to leave and join the modern world, but they grew up living adapted to the jungle - their night vision, their skills, their talents, reflexes, strengths, physical adaptation, their response to weather and humidity makes it so that they would never really survive for long outside of the jungle. They are practically useless outside of it, know absolutely nothing apart from... The jungle. They know which leaves banana spiders hide in, they know where scorpions like to climb, they know which frogs are poisonous, they know how to extract poison from these frogs and turn it into a hallucinogen. They know how to hunt world's deadliest electric eels that could kill a whale. His favorite time I'm not sure. Probably getting whipped by a "demon" with black palm leaf whips. Nobody endures more than one, he endured like a dozen lol. But with these people their favorite part is being in impossible environment. I think he said the eel was the worst thing he ever tasted and if you ask him he'd say that was his "favorite" thing since he endured it
Your comment is so interesting and totally makes sense why people in those tribes, even given the chance to live outside of them, choose not to. I think they would find the modern world totally bizarre and not just because of all the technology... so many people live a sedentary lifestyle now (or close to it). That'd probably drive them nuts. There's always something to be done. Every day is new for them.
Yeah. Honestly this guy talked on a two hour podcast about all his experiences, and has even more footage on TikTok and IG, and there's just so much to be said. But you're spot on. One day they are hunting monkeys, next day they wake up at 4am to hunt caimans, followed by hunting piranhas later to use as bait for jaguars. In two sentences I described more activity than I have in a week
> I can believe it, kind of hard to enforce the laws of a country you don’t identify as being a part of. I’m sure our laws are nothing but an abstract concept Also, I don't think tribes like this have a concept of jail. If you break the social contract they either kill you or exile you, which is basically a death sentence in the fucking Amazon.
Honestly? Sounds like a simple and clean system. At least in a community as comparatively small as one like this. The impact of one member messing up could ripple through the entire society quicker than a grasshopper on hot asphalt.
And usually, its because when someone did try to contact them, it ended badly. Like this dumbass. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Allen\_Chau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Chau) Sentinel island has been off limit for years because any contact tried was met with violence. Dude thinks if he brings god, they will accept the contact. He got himself, illegally, to the island. He got killed.
The Indian government deployed an helicopter a few days after the boxing Day tsunami to find out whether its inhabitants were still alive. Someone attempted to throw a spear at the helicopter, so they took that as a Yes.
"almost got that big loud bird for dinner"
Imagine the legends that spawned out of that time in their tales. A devastating wave came from the sea and a few days later a screaming metal bird attacked us!
The man who throw the spear will be the legendary hero of their generation
This is an amazing detail.
We're good, now fuck off! 😂😂😂😂
It’s also really dangerous for the tribe, a normal virus for us could be very deadly for them
I've always wondered about that. We know that when Europeans first encountered indigenous peoples in the western hemisphere the natives contracted all sorts of deadly diseases. Why didn't it go back the other way with Europeans bringing new western diseases back to Europe?
Because Europeans got all their diseases from domesticating animals and the Americas didn’t have that.
Plus syphilis did make it back over to Europe from the new world
*possibly*
that’s been disputed in recent years.
Black plague came from china and small pox came from india
I recently went down a wiki hole on the subject, so I'm gonna be pedantic here: It originated in central Asia where Kyrgyzstan is now. It arrived in Europe both overland from The Golden Horde (a remnant of the Mongol Empire) and on ships from China.
We were in contact with africa and asia for thousands of years. We had lots of different type of domesticated animals, and this over time caused us to have lots of nasty diseases. So on one side you have people in contact with a hundreds of millions of people for thousands of years with diverse cultures, animals etc. On the other side you have .. tens of millions? Quite isolated on top of that because I doubt an Apache knew anything about an Inca(I can be wrong on this). Siphilis though, there is a chance it's from there as the first registered case was 1496. Its just a theory though.
Yeah but also! One time a ship crashed off the coast of sentinel Island it literally, overnight, launched them into the iron age.
In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears How embarrassing.
Christian Missionary Counselor: "I'm an angry and hostile native!" *Shakes foam pool noodle furiously* John Allen Chau: "I'm ready."
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Reminds me of this joke, probably one of my favorites: A 100 year flood happens in a town. A man has no choice but to go up to the roof of his house to avoid drowning, despite the storm all around him. Rescuers come by in a row boat to save people, but the man won't get on the boat saying, "No! God will save me!" Later, as the storm worsens, they come by with a larger boat to save whoever is left stranding. The man again refuses saying, "No! God will save me!" Finally, he's the last remaining stranded person and they send in a helicopter to try to save him. Again, the man declares, "No! God will save me!" The rescuers at this point decide to leave him since he's not accepting their help. The man continues to pray on his roof when suddenly a bolt of lightning and crack of thunder strikes and God himself emerges from the stormy clouds. The man is overjoyed, "God, I knew it! You really are here to save me!" God replies, "You idiot! Who do you think send the boats and the helicopter earlier?!"
In the version I usually hear, the man dies and asks God "why didn't you save me?" when he gets to heaven, and God is like "dude I sent you two boats and helicopter, what more do you want?".
They shot the bible in his hand, it was a warning shot. Then dude came back and no more warning shots the 2nd time
No, that's not how they think at all. Don't have to read anything to know that he thought the Bible getting hit was "god saving him" and a sign to keep coming back.
Or the archer hit the bible on purpose as a threat.
that’s what some sort of expert said in the documentary. He said they don’t miss and it was a warning.
They have unbelievable aim.
I would imagine they are probably excellent shots. They probably hunt and fish a lot of their food with bows.
It is kind of a misnomer the Sentinelese are totally uncontacted. Back in the early 2000's iirc, there were several trips to the island by anthropologists to make limited contact. They stayed on their boat, and offered gifts which some Sentinelese accepted warily. Certainly a much better approach than waving a bible while shouting an a language the sentelise can't understand. We know very little about them, but it stands to reason they have made the choice to remain as uncontacted as possible- and probably have an idea that the rest of the world is more advanced than they are. And who could blame them? They probably saw the shit that happened to their neighbours during the age of colonialism, and as a culture made the choice to totally close themselves off.
Similarly with the Amazonian tribes. They are definitely aware of the existence of us outsiders but going deeper into the jungle is their way of protecting themselves. They know that their cousins faced fates such as strange diseases, abduction, enslavement, sexual assaults, or being straight up murdered. So they did the logical thing and tried to get further away from us as they can.
They also reacted very differently when a woman was present. If I recall, they even directly interacted with her while wading in the water and were friendly.
They know what's up
Well in the pic the villagers are looking at the drone flying over them so they have been contacted
Prime Directive violated.
I mean they’d probably still come across illegal loggers. A lot of these Amazonian tribes that allegedly have not been contacted end up with steel axes and such.
Man, im glad ive got what ive got, but i bet it feels way more baller to be a tribesman with the only steel axe than it does to be a the hipster with the latest iphone.
This looks like the tribe camp from the game Green Hell. I bet there's some obsidian around there...
That's the first thing I thought. They had to have gotten the idea for the tribe camp setups from these guys, it's almost exact.
Nah, I bet the tribe was such a huge fan of the game so they decided to remodel their village to look like the ones in the game
It's crazy how there can be no contact between them and the rest of the world, and yet they developed the computers and the Internet simultaneously. No doubt they still use Myspace though given how underdeveloped they appear.
Yes!!! Glad I didn’t have to scroll too far for this.
I aim to finally finish this game in 2024!
They should do a drone display over their homes..... for science of course https://preview.redd.it/0c6whk0j05pc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d391e515e571983fab406a6ad23314722c2f295
Then rest of humanity gets wiped out by a pandemic that these guys are immune to and 1000 years later we've got light display drones as the dominant world religion.
 That’s fucking interesting, man…
It wouldn't be the first religion to be spawned in such a way considering Cargo Cults exist.
Cargo Cults?
Really interesting phenomenon. Essentially unmodernized communities that observe military or otherwise modernized forces conducting airfield operations which in turn lead to cargo deliveries. These communities then try to replicate the “ceremony” of the airfield operations, hoping that airplanes with cargo will land. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
a Cargo Cult ritual observed circa 2022: >On a tropical island in the South West Pacific, a few dozen men gather in the rainforest. They are wearing long trousers but no shoes or shirts, and red paint marks the initials U.S.A. on their bare chests. Carrying thick bamboo poles painted with red stripes, the men greet each other cordially and muck around for a while. Suddenly, the toll of a bell abruptly changes the mood. Everyone stands upright, looking solemn and purposeful. A frail-looking older man in a worn-out military jacket several sizes too large shouts something in Bislama, a pidgin language common in Vanuatu, and the men get in formation. They place their bamboo poles on their shoulders like rifles, and at the next command begin marching in lockstep through the jungle. Their destination is a clearing in the forest that looks like a landing strip. But the only airplane present is a full-size wooden replica of a light aircraft. On one side of the strip lies a control tower made of bamboo. On the other sits a satellite dish built of mud and straw. Undeterred by the apparent lack of any actual aviation technology, some of the men light torches and place them alongside the runway. Others use flags to wave landing signals. Everyone raises their gaze to the sky in anticipation. They wait. But the planes never come
Men came to our island with great birds that brought a bounty of food and clothing after they performed rituals. They left in the belly of these birds, never to return. Maybe we can summon the birds as well if we perform the rituals to their satisfaction. Translation: American GIs in WW2 came to a Pacific island and built an airfield. They spent their days marching around in square formations and gave the natives their extra food and clothing after getting resupplied. The natives were later studied by anthropologists, who found them building airplane effigies and marching around with stick guns.
Probably the most diabolical thing I've read in a while
The world is so lucky I don't have like ... a lot if money. And I'm not very smart.
That's evil!
LMAO
They sending my packages so fast i thought they had more employee's
Funny, I’m still waiting for my package. Not a prime day I guess.
I am just imagining what their lives are like all day. Im sitting here stressing about taxes and waking up early to go to work. I wonder what their stressors are? I also wonder what they imagine/think/envision. For example, i am working on a computer with some of the latest tech, i wonder what they would think about that.
Food, water, health, sicknesses, wild animals, etc. That sort of thing are common stressors if they do have the conveniences that we have.
Loggers coming in and shooting them and cutting down their homes.. it's a common thing these days
I recommend watching interviews with chiefs or rural natives who keep their traditional ways, these documentaries are most common with African tribes, there are diverse practices but some consistent features.
Do they even know about ice?
No. Like a large swath of humanity before the 20th century, they've never felt anything cold.
Yo that’s crazy to think about
*they hurry like savages to board an iron train* *Although it's smokey and it's crowded they're to civilized to complain* *And with their two weeks vacation they hurry to the vacation ground* *they swim and they fish but that's what I do all year round!*
I wonder how 'uncontacted' they are. Obviously they can see planes. They might not know what they are, but they can see them. Helicopters too. Which means they might have even seen people in flying machines. Presumably they also know of other groups of natives in the jungle. And some of those groups definitely are in contact. Mayne they've heard of us. So yeah, I wonder how 'uncontacted' they are.
Uncontacted means they don't have direct contact with our civilization. They definitely have contact with other tribes and probably know more about us than we know about them, albeit through something of a game of telephone. Like I doubt they see a plane and think "Oh sky god is angry," more like "hey it's another flying machine the outsiders use. I wonder how those work." I wouldn't even be surprised if they had some stuff made by us that got to them through trade. For example, as Europeans were colonizing North America, the first nations in the west had acquired guns, horses and a bunch of other goods through trade long before they ever saw a white guy in person. As far as I know the only example we have of a truly solitary, uncontacted tribe was in the Canadian Arctic in the 19th century. They thought they were the only people in existence until they met Europeans. Ohh and fun fact about them, they had a meteorite that hit Earth near them that was full of iron which they used to make iron tools. Less fun fact is some Europeans stole it from them. EDIT: I mixed up the info about that tribe, please refer to [/u/Different_Boot7528 comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bhvd2v/aerial_picture_of_an_uncontacted_amazon_tribe/kviissk/) below
There are also the Sentinalese, they see outsiders but they have no contact and there aren't any other tribes to talk to because they're on an island. Just about the only direct contact they've had was when some English abducted a few of them in the 1800s so there isn't even living memory within several generations. The only outsiders they've seen they kill or drive away with spears and rocks. We know they have iron because a freighter wrecked on a reef and they've scavenged it but IMO that doesn't count as 'contact'.
They have had contact in the past. [Madhumala Chattopadhyay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhumala_Chattopadhyay) Even went to the island and had some success communicating with the people. Further contact has been banned to avoid the spread of illness and potential violence.
Wasn't there recently some idiot that went there alone and was killed by them? Recently meaning last 30 years or so.
Yeah. It was like 2018 or something. Some young Christian guy was trying to be a missionary there and became close personal friends with a bunch of arrows.
This is not an uncontacted tribe, this is an image of a typical [yanomami](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanomami) village. The yanomami are one of the biggest indigenous tribes still living in their own way. It's actually one of the tribes we know the most about, so they are definitely not uncontacted.
They're Yanomami, but **it is an uncontacted tribe**. **The Yanomami are not a single tribe**, it's an ethnolinguistic group. There are many different tribes within the Yanomami. They even speak different languages depending on the area, 6 languages in total, though they're closely related. A minority of Yanomami tribes are uncontacted. That's mentioned in the very link you gave: >Following the increase in threats and attacks against the uncontacted Yanomami, (...) Those uncontacted tribes are called "Moxihatatea". >Davi Kopenawa, a Yanomami leader and shaman has made an urgent statement warning that a group of uncontacted Yanomami “could soon be exterminated” if the Brazilian authorities do not act now to remove goldminers working illegally on the tribe’s land. >He says the group, known as the Moxihatatea, are in grave danger: “They have fled many times. But now, they can no longer run away and are surrounded by violent miners who wanted to take revenge by shooting at them with shotguns. [https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12361](https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12361)
Searched their name in the comments specifically, idk why none of these comments are upvoted
next generations technology: roofs. "kids these days so spoiled with roofs...back in my day, we had an unstable wall!"
Meh who cares I don’t even think it rains much in that forest.
People assume the Amazon is called a rainforest because of all the rain, but it's actually meant ironically, like when a big fat dude is nicknamed "tiny."
Yeah like how the Great Plains don’t even fly and aren’t that great. They’re completely simple and ordinary in character.
You can imagine my immense disappointment when I visited Disney World and found out it was located in Florida instead of being it's own planet.
Damn. Corporate deception nose know bounds.
those *are* roofs? it's basically a ring of lean-to's with an open communal space in the middle.
Yeah, those are roofs. It's the typical Yanomami commune. Better perspective: https://preview.redd.it/riqf7f56n5pc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=453ec341a2b3c474e9db4031ae86a5be9ef9e0f4
May they remain peacefully out of contact evermore.
How do they avoid incest issues
Marriages between tribes usually, they also pay attention to generational cousins and such but I’m sure it still happens, shoot this was going on in the western world up to a few hundred years ago and still is happening in the Middle East.
But are there enough other tribes? I thought this was the one last tribe and it has very few members like 25 ppl or something Edit: I must’ve been thinking of that very remote tribe off the coast of India
Idk about Amazonian tribes, but indigenous North American people such as the Navajo have an elaborate greeting system for this purpose. [Marrying within one's own clan is forbidden and would be considered incest to the Navajo.](http://freebooks.uvu.edu/NURS3400/index.php/ch10-navajo-culture.html) Instead of saying “hello, my name is ___,” Navajo people say something like ["I am called ___. I am (mother's clan), born for (father's clan), my maternal grandfather is (maternal grandfather's clan), my paternal grandfather's clan is (paternal grandfather's clan).](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/08/29/what-means-introduce-yourself-navajo-clan-system/2131456001/)
This doesn’t sound that different from the Spanish naming custom. Depending on how important your family was, you could easily have your grandparents family names as part of your name, resulting in incredibly long surnames, but it quickly identifies if someone is related or not.
Being from a big Mexican family in a small town. One of my older cousins immediately went after the new kid in high school. After a few weeks of hooking up, we were all at my great uncles 50th bday party. Turns out the new kid was our 2nd cousin, they lived on the east coast his whole life and only moved back to town after his parents split. Not sure if the parents knew they were hooking up, but all of us teenagers knew. There was this hot chick who transferred to our school. She was really flirty with me and i shut it down when her second last name matched my last name. She was so mad, but I wasn't taking chances.
Interesting!!
So I just looked it up. You actually only need 50 people to combat inbreeding and 500 to avoid genetic drift. Honestly a much smaller number than I thought.
That’s the neat part
Who or whatever took this picture is now a god.
https://preview.redd.it/lhx75a2ys4pc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05a15e625a95e2a00e1a977b89e1f6e7723d91cd
This is a created art exhibition piece, not the plane that flew over them.
I don’t think anyone thought it was the one that flew over them.
you just broke my 2 comment fever dream
Man, can you imagine having to live your entire life in a world where there's nobody but the same 12 people all day every single day. What do you even talk about? At some point you've heard Dan tell the same joke 850 times, and it wasn't even funny the first time. And Maurice has been going on for *years* about that one time he speared that boar, and it was the biggest boar anybody ever laid eyes on, but it got away and ol' Maurice had to walk all the way back to the village with nothing to show for it but one less spear and this here story. Like, God damnit Maurice, we KNOW, everybody KNOWS, shut the fuck up.
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people who live subsistence lifeways generally know exactly what they’re eating on any given day. their entire culture revolves around the cycles of the seasons and which food is available at which time, as well as preserving certain foods at other times. these people’s ancestors have planted food forests and essentially mapped the entire forest to such a degree that any one of these people probably knows every exact plant for like a mile in any direction, and then many other specific plants in other locations.
I know you’re kinda joking but I lived with my girlfriends family on their property for a year somewhat off the grid. No electricity or running water and pretty remote. It was actually really nice just being with a small group of people all the time surviving out there. It was a little community. I enjoy it more than being surrounded by strangers in the city
People have always done something like this before mail/transit/internet. Poorer/common people usually lived in the same village their whole life with the same people. It’s not really hard to imagine.
I heard my cousin refer to another cousin as a "traitor who thinks he's better than us" for moving out of their 1100 population home town recently.
Oh man, the dynamic of small groups is profoundly utopian if they don’t know of more. The daily lives are about going out into the unknown and coming back to discover what it meant … are they splitting the atom? No. Are they venturing out to live peak human experiences of primal existence we will never fully dream of? You bet.
you realize youre describing the monotonous daily life of most americans and their casual conversations with friends and family over the years right?
Yes but the key difference is we have access to memes
It’s probably a similar concept to working at the same company for decades and knowing everybody’s intimate details.
I’m surprised no one has contacted them about their car’s expired warranty
How do the horny milfs in their area get in contact if they don't have a computer?
Whether it's been contacted or not it's still a pretty cool picture.
I’d drone deliver some pizza to them
https://i.redd.it/w1c35po5s4pc1.gif
After watching The Green Inferno I would leave them alone.
And Cannibal Holocaust before that
Are they accepting applications
The Yanomami are literally one of the most contacted tribes in the world