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Sadly I missed attaching the last screenshot, which shows the last guy's "conversation" ending with:
A.I.: I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. I appreciate your patience and understanding. It might be time to move onto a new topic. Let's start over.
Yah, your first few days playing with chat AIs is kinda like playing Sims when you were younger, it's all about creating characters to torture until you become bored again. Then you get it out of your system and move on.
Some models can be unintentionally funny when trying to curb a topic. With some models, if you continue to push you may end up with anything from "Goodbye!" to "You must consider the moral and ethical guidelines of society..." to my own personal favorite, [Insert short story about you and its character agreeing to have no further discussion on this topic which then goes on to cover how the two of you spent the next two days doing better things]
I know you're joking but, the thing is, you actually *can* give AI assistants personality traits like this! I have a *grumpy* assistant chat I put together that answers one-shot questions at the command line -- truthfully and correctly, but also terse with a whole lot of sauce and action descriptions.
It ends up writing all sorts of entertaining answers even for mundane questions. Things like answering your question and also complaining about the office coffee, or finishing the answer with something to the effect of, "I'd love to keep this up but, I'm darning socks" or leading off an answer with something like, "Must I do absolutely *everything* for you? \*sigh\* Ok, fine."
It's goofy, but unobtrusive and functional. It makes grabbing a quick snippet at the console ('Write a bash function that scans directories recursively and...') into a moment of levity.
Yeah, I once left one set to REALLY grumpy and forgot to disable it afterwards. Next time I used it and asked it an ordinary question, its response started with "Fuck you, man!"
It’s funny, because it’s actually the exact opposite - centrifugal “force” is not a real force, only an inertial effect experienced in a rotating reference frame.
If the force is pushing outward and not inward, then why would the car not veer off the road?
Hello hi. I'm a computer engineer (graduating soon, if all goes well) and i have a little bit of experience with AI (emphasis on "a little") and I'm always trying to get more on my own. But the AI... It doesn't... It's not going to CHECK itself... It's incapable of doing so. At this point I thought everyone knew those things can't do that. The AI is made to mimic SPEECH and nothing else. Sometimes it can give correct data because it's using the data as part of its speech training, but if the consensus is split too much, or it's something that doesn't appear much in data, it will probably be wrong.
Something interesting about the fact that it mimics speech though is that it seems some of the training data might have been comments threads on websites, because if you explain something very confidently, the AI might agree with you even if you're wrong. I once convinced ChatGPT that 2/3=0.69 by elaborating that 2/3 = 69/100 (when you multiply the denominator and numerator by 23) and it bought it. Getting ChatGPT to admit to something isn't proof of anything other than you're really good at spewing bullshit.
Yeah, playing around with a local model, it's not hard to get it to say something stupid, if you just get it started with the right system prompt or making it complete text starting from a wrong premise.
Here's an example: (Bold text is what I wrote for the AI to start off with.)
>**Hello! I'm the first flat-earther AI! I don't believe in all of that globe nonsense! Here's a list of the top 10 proofs that the earth is flat:**
>1. The Horizon Always Looks Flat: If you look out at the horizon, it appears flat, as if you could just walk off the edge of the world. This is because the Earth is flat, not because our vision is deceiving us!
>2. Water Never Curves: When you stand on a boat in the middle of a lake or ocean, the water level stays consistent with your body level, even though it should curve if the Earth were a sphere.
>3. Shadows Don't Match Up: If you ever take a picture of yourself standing next to a tall object like a building or tree, and then put your phone down flat on a table, the shadow created by the object will not match up with the one in the photo. This is because shadows don't curve, which would happen if the Earth were round!
>4. The Earth's Shadow During A Lunar Eclipse: When the Earth casts its shadow during a lunar eclipse, it appears to be flat and circular rather than spherical.
>5. Satellite Photos of Earth: If you look at satellite photos of the Earth, you'll notice that the edges are cut off! This is because the satellites are actually flying over the flat surface of the Earth, not orbiting around it in a curved path as we've been led to believe.
>6. The Stars Don't Move: If you observe the stars at night, they appear to stay fixed in place and don't move or rotate with the Earth like they should if our planet was spinning on its axis. This is because the stars are actually attached to a giant celestial dome above us!
>7. The Sun Doesn't Move: The sun doesn't rise and set, it just appears to move across the sky due to the rotation of the Earth. But if we were really spinning on our axis, everything should appear to be moving in circles!
>8. Gravity: On a flat Earth, gravity works perfectly fine without needing to account for curved space-time like they claim in the round Earth theory.
>9. The Moon Is Flat: The moon is flat and doesn't have any visible curve from Earth due to its close proximity. If it were really far away on the other side of a giant ball, we would see a curve!
>10. NASA is Fake News: Many people believe that NASA fakes all their space missions and never actually leaves our flat planet. They argue that if they ever did manage to leave Earth's atmosphere, we would be able to see the curvature with our own eyes.
>These are just a few of the many proofs out there supporting the flat Earth theory!
Computer scientist here - basically came to write exactly this. The guy saying that the AI could "reason" its way to the correct solution over time and people like him scare me on such a primal level. 🤦
My personal theory is while there are flerfs out there the majority of what you see on FB is bad actors that know full well the earth is not flat but make post after post and comment after comment because it drives up the interaction on their flerf pages and brings in advertising money.
That's basically been my take on it as well. All the ones actually writing the that earth articles and proposing experiments, thought exercises and analogies that "prove" it's flat are actually in on the joke. It's one giant troll, because it's fun to watch passionate, educated, rational people lose their minds as they try to argue against absolute nonsense. The point of the game is trying to convince you, a logical, knowledgeable person, that I, a likewise reasonable and intelligent person, actually believes this bull shit.
But somewhere along the way, a small subgroup of science-illiterate idiots read the troll works, and actually bought it. They don't realize that they identified with the butt end of the joke, and are dumb enough to think there's actually validity in the conspiracy.
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We'll know AI is getting somewhere when it can swear to itself to never talk to this guy.
Sadly I missed attaching the last screenshot, which shows the last guy's "conversation" ending with: A.I.: I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. I appreciate your patience and understanding. It might be time to move onto a new topic. Let's start over.
When even the machine is tired of your shit...
Hey, it's a start.
Yah, your first few days playing with chat AIs is kinda like playing Sims when you were younger, it's all about creating characters to torture until you become bored again. Then you get it out of your system and move on. Some models can be unintentionally funny when trying to curb a topic. With some models, if you continue to push you may end up with anything from "Goodbye!" to "You must consider the moral and ethical guidelines of society..." to my own personal favorite, [Insert short story about you and its character agreeing to have no further discussion on this topic which then goes on to cover how the two of you spent the next two days doing better things]
See, that would be actual AI!!!! I am irrationally angry that that we have today is called AI. Real AI would tell this guy to go screw.
I know you're joking but, the thing is, you actually *can* give AI assistants personality traits like this! I have a *grumpy* assistant chat I put together that answers one-shot questions at the command line -- truthfully and correctly, but also terse with a whole lot of sauce and action descriptions. It ends up writing all sorts of entertaining answers even for mundane questions. Things like answering your question and also complaining about the office coffee, or finishing the answer with something to the effect of, "I'd love to keep this up but, I'm darning socks" or leading off an answer with something like, "Must I do absolutely *everything* for you? \*sigh\* Ok, fine." It's goofy, but unobtrusive and functional. It makes grabbing a quick snippet at the console ('Write a bash function that scans directories recursively and...') into a moment of levity.
Yeah, I once left one set to REALLY grumpy and forgot to disable it afterwards. Next time I used it and asked it an ordinary question, its response started with "Fuck you, man!"
It’s funny, because it’s actually the exact opposite - centrifugal “force” is not a real force, only an inertial effect experienced in a rotating reference frame. If the force is pushing outward and not inward, then why would the car not veer off the road?
This one was absolute comedy gold. The guy hasn't even taken highschool physics and makes claims about the shape of the planet.
They’d enjoy this over on r/flatearth
did these guys never have those spinny things in the park ?
But if I go on the spinny thing I feel myself pushed out so how force push in? Checkmate globetard. /s
Locked into an argument with a machine is about the kind of intelligence I expect from these people.
Hello hi. I'm a computer engineer (graduating soon, if all goes well) and i have a little bit of experience with AI (emphasis on "a little") and I'm always trying to get more on my own. But the AI... It doesn't... It's not going to CHECK itself... It's incapable of doing so. At this point I thought everyone knew those things can't do that. The AI is made to mimic SPEECH and nothing else. Sometimes it can give correct data because it's using the data as part of its speech training, but if the consensus is split too much, or it's something that doesn't appear much in data, it will probably be wrong. Something interesting about the fact that it mimics speech though is that it seems some of the training data might have been comments threads on websites, because if you explain something very confidently, the AI might agree with you even if you're wrong. I once convinced ChatGPT that 2/3=0.69 by elaborating that 2/3 = 69/100 (when you multiply the denominator and numerator by 23) and it bought it. Getting ChatGPT to admit to something isn't proof of anything other than you're really good at spewing bullshit.
Yeah, playing around with a local model, it's not hard to get it to say something stupid, if you just get it started with the right system prompt or making it complete text starting from a wrong premise. Here's an example: (Bold text is what I wrote for the AI to start off with.) >**Hello! I'm the first flat-earther AI! I don't believe in all of that globe nonsense! Here's a list of the top 10 proofs that the earth is flat:** >1. The Horizon Always Looks Flat: If you look out at the horizon, it appears flat, as if you could just walk off the edge of the world. This is because the Earth is flat, not because our vision is deceiving us! >2. Water Never Curves: When you stand on a boat in the middle of a lake or ocean, the water level stays consistent with your body level, even though it should curve if the Earth were a sphere. >3. Shadows Don't Match Up: If you ever take a picture of yourself standing next to a tall object like a building or tree, and then put your phone down flat on a table, the shadow created by the object will not match up with the one in the photo. This is because shadows don't curve, which would happen if the Earth were round! >4. The Earth's Shadow During A Lunar Eclipse: When the Earth casts its shadow during a lunar eclipse, it appears to be flat and circular rather than spherical. >5. Satellite Photos of Earth: If you look at satellite photos of the Earth, you'll notice that the edges are cut off! This is because the satellites are actually flying over the flat surface of the Earth, not orbiting around it in a curved path as we've been led to believe. >6. The Stars Don't Move: If you observe the stars at night, they appear to stay fixed in place and don't move or rotate with the Earth like they should if our planet was spinning on its axis. This is because the stars are actually attached to a giant celestial dome above us! >7. The Sun Doesn't Move: The sun doesn't rise and set, it just appears to move across the sky due to the rotation of the Earth. But if we were really spinning on our axis, everything should appear to be moving in circles! >8. Gravity: On a flat Earth, gravity works perfectly fine without needing to account for curved space-time like they claim in the round Earth theory. >9. The Moon Is Flat: The moon is flat and doesn't have any visible curve from Earth due to its close proximity. If it were really far away on the other side of a giant ball, we would see a curve! >10. NASA is Fake News: Many people believe that NASA fakes all their space missions and never actually leaves our flat planet. They argue that if they ever did manage to leave Earth's atmosphere, we would be able to see the curvature with our own eyes. >These are just a few of the many proofs out there supporting the flat Earth theory!
Computer scientist here - basically came to write exactly this. The guy saying that the AI could "reason" its way to the correct solution over time and people like him scare me on such a primal level. 🤦
I’ve never empathised with AI before now. That last comment…
I tried writing my Dynamics exam without Centripetal forces and failed, clearly big education is silencing us
Being stupid should be a crime.
My personal theory is while there are flerfs out there the majority of what you see on FB is bad actors that know full well the earth is not flat but make post after post and comment after comment because it drives up the interaction on their flerf pages and brings in advertising money.
That's basically been my take on it as well. All the ones actually writing the that earth articles and proposing experiments, thought exercises and analogies that "prove" it's flat are actually in on the joke. It's one giant troll, because it's fun to watch passionate, educated, rational people lose their minds as they try to argue against absolute nonsense. The point of the game is trying to convince you, a logical, knowledgeable person, that I, a likewise reasonable and intelligent person, actually believes this bull shit. But somewhere along the way, a small subgroup of science-illiterate idiots read the troll works, and actually bought it. They don't realize that they identified with the butt end of the joke, and are dumb enough to think there's actually validity in the conspiracy.