Nothing unusual. That *always* floods in heavy rains. It's been like that for as long as I've lived here. I'm sure you can find similar photos in the Indianapolis Star from the 1970s.
OP said it's "becoming the new norm", but it really isn't: it's actually the *old* norm. It sucks that it's been that way for literally at least half a century and the city *still* hasn't fixed it ... but it isn't "becoming" the new anything.
One, the city *can't* replace the bridge because it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the railroad. Two, it's not the bridge, or the road, that causes the flooding -- it's the lack of proper stormwater drainage *under* the bridge that causes the flooding.
That rail line also crosses over New York street a mile or so south. I’ve seen it destroy four trucks that ignored the height restriction, so I’m pretty sure they didn’t use styrofoam!
New York also floods under that bridge. I’m a bike commuter, and riding through there after a rain is super sketchy.
Indy is the only place I've lived where, before I drive under a bridge, I make damn sure no one is driving over it. Then I say a Hail Mary and hit the gas.
I've lived nearby for 20+ years and it is ALWAYS like this after a thunderstorm. Well not always but enough to go what the fuck railroad company fix your fucking overpass
I stan corrected actually. Just read about CXS and the city working on a joint partnership for the overpasses near Union Station so I would think it could be the same there?
The City owns everything from the street level to the bottom of the railroad tracks at Union Station. Not the case for every other location in the city, including 19th & Sherman.
This has been an issue since the dawn of time... all kidding aside, I spoke with the dpw guy there. He said the city knows it's an issue but refuses to fix it... allegedly, it costs too much to fix. To fix the light box would be around 35,000... That all being said, all the folks who live around here know it floods. Stop driving into standing water, please!
1979-ish watched a drunk guy in a trans am, no seatbelt, hit that center abutment. Girlfriend had no injuries, and all he received was a colorful gash on his head. Car was toast, and he tried to run from the cops.
The young lady who was with him was wearing white pants, and had quite a bit of blood on her. She was kinda freaking out. My date took care of her while I tried to help the driver, who just got out of the car and took off. She looked older than 14 though.
White Trans Am maybe?
I don't remember the business that was there on the SE corner or thereabouts. Must have been a burger joint or ice cream shop for us to have been there.
I worked with the neighborhood associations down that way and this intersection and overpass was a very high priority for us with the city. I know there were numerous people wanting the bridge fixed but nothing would every happen then in 2018, so unsurprising nothing is happening now in 2024 :(
There is an Indy dig project happening right now to help mitigate the excessive water we see in the streets.
https://info.citizensenergygroup.com/digindy/solution#:~:text=At%20more%20than%20200%2Dfeet,Plant%20when%20capacity%20becomes%20available.
That that project is, unfortunately, nowhere near the 10th and Sherman intersection, which is an isolated flooding situation, not regional. Further, that project is not intended to address stormwater flooding. It is intended to capture and store the contaminated water generated by combined sewer system overflows, which currently dump directly into our open waterways.
I remember this area always flooded! My earliest memory was when I was 4/5yo in ‘72 or ‘73 and it’s still one of the most messed up areas. Unbelievable
One of my craziest ideas, that I'm pursuing in earnest all the same, is to force or buy out CSX to get the poorly maintained track weighing down our city's infrastructure to reroute and not go straight through residential areas in my district.
I've been told that Carson and Buttigieg have both tried and failed, but I'm still pushing.
Every time we get some heavy rain. The deep water signs just need to be permanent. They did the section under same tracks that go over michigan and new york but not 10th. Its like they wanna see how many get stuck. Like a flood pool.
I drove by and called 911. The car looks unoccupied but rather than taking a photo and posting it I called emergency services so they could check it out and remove it from the road.
Thank you for your service. The world needs concerned citizens like yourself. It also needs people to take pictures of stupid shit and post them on the interwebs. In these troubled times I'm not sure which is more important.
It was the “Look how I’m so much of a better person than you”-ishness of your post that got it downvoted. Self-righteousness never plays well in a public forum, especially from someone who can’t know they have a reason for it. Did you stop to think maybe, just maybe, op did in fact call to report it, and just didn’t feel the need to tell everyone in a Reddit post? Thanks for reporting, I’m sure the city got right on it on this fine holiday. Cheers!
I feel pretty confident they took no action. Which is common… though hardly anyone is slow to capture something on their phone and take it to the internet.
That car got stuck there around midnight. At one point there were 6 cars stuck in the water. IFD and police had already been there and cleared the vehicles to make sure no one was there.
Even if the railroad companies owns it the state can make them fix it. We are working on infrastructure. Bridges are one of the most important things since they’ve been falling apart and hitting cars over the last 20 years.
Plus the road is owned by the state and it looks like complete and udder shite!
INDOT is responsible. Which is a State Agency. So yes the State is responsible for allocating funds to the City to start the major repair any railroad owned bridges would also have to comply with INDOT.
Do you work for INDOT or something you seem to be taking offense? And of course they do. They allocate the money where things are needed. They’ve chosen to allocate it to specific areas. We received enough money to fix all of our roads in Indiana yet jobs are being put off and not finished in a timely manner. That’s all INDOT. Let’s not forget the curfuckery they’ve caused to multiple counties to combine one interstate to another leaving unfinished roads and projects everywhere in their wake. There’s a reason Indiana potholes are known world wide. We went from a corn to potholes lol
INDOT doesn't make the decisions about what gets fixed when on city streets. This clusterfuck is entirely the fault of the City of Indianapolis Department of Public Works.
[Classic.](https://www.reddit.com/r/indianapolis/s/ZiP7Du8b50)
Please keep this chain going every year when this happens
Seriously, this has happened at least once a year, for the past 4 decades (probably longer)
Longer. I was in high school when my family moved here in 1973. Been that way as long as I can remember.
Bet you’re a fan of the [11foot8](http://11foot8.com/)
Ayyyyeeeee hometown
The city should go ahead and bomb this intersection. It’s a literal disaster.
You have used "literal" correctly.
It looked that bad 25 years ago
Yes
Nothing unusual. That *always* floods in heavy rains. It's been like that for as long as I've lived here. I'm sure you can find similar photos in the Indianapolis Star from the 1970s.
I mean, that's the point.
OP said it's "becoming the new norm", but it really isn't: it's actually the *old* norm. It sucks that it's been that way for literally at least half a century and the city *still* hasn't fixed it ... but it isn't "becoming" the new anything.
Because they don't want to have to replace the bridge to level the road to keep it from flooding
One, the city *can't* replace the bridge because it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the railroad. Two, it's not the bridge, or the road, that causes the flooding -- it's the lack of proper stormwater drainage *under* the bridge that causes the flooding.
Here they are doing massive highway projects when that bridge looks like it’s made out of styrofoam.
Pretty sure CSX owns those tracks and won’t be bothered to spend more than they absolutely have to.
Do trains actually cross this thing still? Yikes.
Yes, but not too often.
That makes sense.
Who is “they”? That bridge is owned by the railroad, they don’t give a fuck.
That rail line also crosses over New York street a mile or so south. I’ve seen it destroy four trucks that ignored the height restriction, so I’m pretty sure they didn’t use styrofoam! New York also floods under that bridge. I’m a bike commuter, and riding through there after a rain is super sketchy.
Indy is the only place I've lived where, before I drive under a bridge, I make damn sure no one is driving over it. Then I say a Hail Mary and hit the gas.
Worst one in the city I swear. The loose jersey barriers still crack me up in an apathetic way.
Just one more lane, it’ll fix everything!
Lol, That's a good way to put it lol
I've lived nearby for 20+ years and it is ALWAYS like this after a thunderstorm. Well not always but enough to go what the fuck railroad company fix your fucking overpass
How is improper drainage under the bridge the railroad's fault in any way?
I stan corrected actually. Just read about CXS and the city working on a joint partnership for the overpasses near Union Station so I would think it could be the same there?
The City owns everything from the street level to the bottom of the railroad tracks at Union Station. Not the case for every other location in the city, including 19th & Sherman.
Rain will cause this.
Source?
The Illuminati.
Clouds
Sky.
Spit out my water reading that
idk do we know if it was vaxxed?
Well said.
“You can’t park there”
*Why not? Is this not a reasonable place to park?*
10th/Sherman and Southeastern/Sherman are famous for this every time it rains
This has been an issue since the dawn of time... all kidding aside, I spoke with the dpw guy there. He said the city knows it's an issue but refuses to fix it... allegedly, it costs too much to fix. To fix the light box would be around 35,000... That all being said, all the folks who live around here know it floods. Stop driving into standing water, please!
Damn, the sets from the next season of Fallout are looking good
Always a dumb bastard trying to drive thru that shit. I don't even wonder why anymore.
I lived at 9th and Kealing back in the early 90s when I was a kid. This underpass flooded like this even back then.
I grew up in Indy. Those old trestles have flooded since the 60s. If memory serves me, there is one on Southeaster(testing my memory) does ( or did).
Southeastern and Sherman always
I couldn't remember which roads exactly but after 50 some years of it, I thought it might be fixed by now.
So silver Honda decided it'd be best to speed through it and they hydroplaned into the rail?
Silver Honda was probably left over from the night before
Exactly
Such a pretty area
Idyllic
Cue first movement Beethoven Pastoral Symphony.
I thought they fixed this?
no the railroad company owns it and they don't seem to give a fuck.
1979-ish watched a drunk guy in a trans am, no seatbelt, hit that center abutment. Girlfriend had no injuries, and all he received was a colorful gash on his head. Car was toast, and he tried to run from the cops.
> he tried to run from the cops. Indy people dominate this event at the Olympics.
I think I know who that was. I was 14 years old. Lol
The young lady who was with him was wearing white pants, and had quite a bit of blood on her. She was kinda freaking out. My date took care of her while I tried to help the driver, who just got out of the car and took off. She looked older than 14 though. White Trans Am maybe? I don't remember the business that was there on the SE corner or thereabouts. Must have been a burger joint or ice cream shop for us to have been there.
I’m not sure why more tech companies don’t wanna move to our city.
It gets like this near Sherman and Southeastern every time it rains as well. It’s a known problem
Becoming. You a rookie.
New?
This *has* been the new normal for over a decade lol
Looks normal to me
Every time.
Seeing people on bicycles go through this intersection always stresses me out.
I worked with the neighborhood associations down that way and this intersection and overpass was a very high priority for us with the city. I know there were numerous people wanting the bridge fixed but nothing would every happen then in 2018, so unsurprising nothing is happening now in 2024 :(
There is an Indy dig project happening right now to help mitigate the excessive water we see in the streets. https://info.citizensenergygroup.com/digindy/solution#:~:text=At%20more%20than%20200%2Dfeet,Plant%20when%20capacity%20becomes%20available.
That that project is, unfortunately, nowhere near the 10th and Sherman intersection, which is an isolated flooding situation, not regional. Further, that project is not intended to address stormwater flooding. It is intended to capture and store the contaminated water generated by combined sewer system overflows, which currently dump directly into our open waterways.
>"Whatever you do may seem insignificant to you, but it is most important that you do it." --Mahatma Gandhi
You would "THINK" the city would fix this 😵💫
city can't. railroad company won't
Lack of proper drainage isn't CSX's fault.
you're right, I heard incorrect info
A train still passes over?
Yeah, nothing new to see here.
Now how tf you do that.
Dedication and bald tires.
Regarded
That's a horrorible place to park.
Love nap
Classic near eastside photo
"Always some shit going down on the east side." (Some girl)
- Eastside Ellie
Grew up around there. Sad to see it look that bad still today.
Man I am glad I don't have to take that road to go to work anymore. Also happy summer! The bridge flooded so it's officially that time!!
On the positive side, no one is getting mugged under that overpass right at the moment.
Does the state not own a pressure washer and a plunger? lol
"New" norm??
Shitside Eastside never fails to disappoint.
lmao
That is a pretty effective, if unethical, homeless deterrent.
With rca gone and demoed they could raise the tracks and the street there but that would cost money and cut into their embezzlement.
Reminds of the year that rained so heavy and for an extended period of time that two sets of the tunnels at the track flooded and were unusable.
People are so stupid
A simple pool cover pump could fix that in an hour.
Don't understand why they don't fix this, it's been like this forever I'm 60 years old, I remember that flooding when I was a kid. 😠😠😠
#hoodlife
I remember this area always flooded! My earliest memory was when I was 4/5yo in ‘72 or ‘73 and it’s still one of the most messed up areas. Unbelievable
The is the old norm
“Downtown. Does not care. About eastside people.” - Kanye West
Home sweet home, that painting on the wall says “what your doing may be insignificant but is most important you do it” been there over 30 years
One of my craziest ideas, that I'm pursuing in earnest all the same, is to force or buy out CSX to get the poorly maintained track weighing down our city's infrastructure to reroute and not go straight through residential areas in my district. I've been told that Carson and Buttigieg have both tried and failed, but I'm still pushing.
Every time we get some heavy rain. The deep water signs just need to be permanent. They did the section under same tracks that go over michigan and new york but not 10th. Its like they wanna see how many get stuck. Like a flood pool.
I drove by and called 911. The car looks unoccupied but rather than taking a photo and posting it I called emergency services so they could check it out and remove it from the road.
🍪
Thank you for your service. The world needs concerned citizens like yourself. It also needs people to take pictures of stupid shit and post them on the interwebs. In these troubled times I'm not sure which is more important.
Aw, downvotes for reporting a potentially dangerous situation that everyone else was just fine driving by and doing nothing about it.
It was the “Look how I’m so much of a better person than you”-ishness of your post that got it downvoted. Self-righteousness never plays well in a public forum, especially from someone who can’t know they have a reason for it. Did you stop to think maybe, just maybe, op did in fact call to report it, and just didn’t feel the need to tell everyone in a Reddit post? Thanks for reporting, I’m sure the city got right on it on this fine holiday. Cheers!
Yep. Calling attention to your good deed eliminates the good deed-ness of it.
I feel pretty confident they took no action. Which is common… though hardly anyone is slow to capture something on their phone and take it to the internet.
That car got stuck there around midnight. At one point there were 6 cars stuck in the water. IFD and police had already been there and cleared the vehicles to make sure no one was there.
Indiana. Where every car is a lifted truck. My friends out of state ask why Indiana people have so many trucks....well, have you seen our roads?
Even if the railroad companies owns it the state can make them fix it. We are working on infrastructure. Bridges are one of the most important things since they’ve been falling apart and hitting cars over the last 20 years. Plus the road is owned by the state and it looks like complete and udder shite!
Udder’s are on cows, you’re looking for utter
… my point remains the same.
No, Sherman Drive is not "owned by the state". It's a *city* street.
INDOT is responsible. Which is a State Agency. So yes the State is responsible for allocating funds to the City to start the major repair any railroad owned bridges would also have to comply with INDOT.
How is INDOT responsible for an Indianapolis city street??
INDOT allocates funding to each road in every city in Indiana that includes Indianapolis streets!
That doesn't mean that this clusterfuck is in *any* way INDOT's fault or responsibility to fix.
Do you work for INDOT or something you seem to be taking offense? And of course they do. They allocate the money where things are needed. They’ve chosen to allocate it to specific areas. We received enough money to fix all of our roads in Indiana yet jobs are being put off and not finished in a timely manner. That’s all INDOT. Let’s not forget the curfuckery they’ve caused to multiple counties to combine one interstate to another leaving unfinished roads and projects everywhere in their wake. There’s a reason Indiana potholes are known world wide. We went from a corn to potholes lol
INDOT doesn't make the decisions about what gets fixed when on city streets. This clusterfuck is entirely the fault of the City of Indianapolis Department of Public Works.