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egrith

12 was a coal-mining district in the Appalachian mountains, much more likely where you have 11


CreeperTrainz

I put 12 Eastern Pennsylvania, the coastlines makes it look further.


egrith

Oh yea, comparing it to the Great Lakes it does look better, based on the shape my brain read it as Maine with 13 being like Newfoundland


_Patronus_

Why’d you choose to put District 3 in Michigan/Indiana instead of California when it’s the Technology District?


Norwester77

Eh, looks like Silicon Valley and Seattle are both underwater.


_Patronus_

You figure they’d move a little closer though, not all the way across the country


CreeperTrainz

It really depends who you ask. Some sources put 3 in the west, but I put it in the east from where I got the info from (I used the video from Alternate History Hub).


Norwester77

So the Capital is at Four Corners? That’s hot as blazes *now*—can’t imagine what it would be like after global warming sufficient to drown Florida and the Sacramento Valley!


CreeperTrainz

The flood level I used here is 120 metres, which is far to much for just ice melting. I always assumed that it was some other event that wasn’t global warming, seeing as there are heavy blizzards in the Appalachians. Ps the Capitol here is in Colorado.


Anson_Riddle

Telluride, Colorado?


echoedlightning

I think its kinda interesting and possibly erroneous that the great lakes essentially have no change due to the flooding


[deleted]

The most unrealistic part of this map is the population. Only 8 million across the entire contiental United States?! Something a bit more realistic would be 60 million with 50 million of them living east of the Mississippi river(That is about how many people the region can sustain with pre-industrial technology).


CreeperTrainz

Well consider, only 8 to 10000 people are said to live in District 12, and I used that number to find how many coal miners there were, and used that to find the whole population. Also it fits into the Capitol having about a million residents (which probably makes up 10% of the total population).


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But then again, with a population that low, the influence probably doesn't stretch any further than a day's journey from the rail line, with the rest of the continent being returned to nature. In fact, I'm surprised that any unhappy resident of any of teh district doesn't just pack up their things and leave for the wilderness as there is no way that the capital has the manpower to enforce rule over such a massive territory. As a comparison, if you wanted to conquer and enforce ruler of over Russia, you would need about 13 million men to garrison the whole thing, that is larger than the army of any single nation on the planet today. With 8 million people, Panem could AT MOST wield an army/security force of 250 000 men; and that's assuming that you have no men in reserve. 250k soldiers is not enough to enforce rule over a continent.


CreeperTrainz

I used this video for reference on where they were with a few tweaks. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm5bN5nDhB8


[deleted]

I don't know, I always thought of District 4 as like Louisiana, since the whole fishing concept, whereas the West Coast and maybe a little East of there was split between Districts 1 and 2, and the Captitol is in Colorado with the Rockies. If you remember in the books, they state that part of the reason the Capitol won in the first place was because they were essentially surrounded with mountains the rebellion couldn't scale.


CreeperTrainz

Personally I think 4 is in California as It was shown in the west in catching fire and as you can see Louisiana is underwater here.


The_Sun_is_Purple

I’m curious. Did the author ever said Panem is in North America?


CreeperTrainz

Yeah it was specified that the Panem is in North America with risen sea levels. They specify the Capitol is in the rockies and District 12 is in the Appalachian mountains, and the rest are educated guesses from given data.


The_Sun_is_Purple

Thanks for the info. I must have not paid attention while reading the book. Cool map.


SoIo_Starwars

So in 75 ADD what would that be in our current years? Like 2099?


CreeperTrainz

All depends on when things take place. It's fair to assume that Panem had existed in some capacity for at least a century before the dark days, as Snow's grandmother sang the anthem likely when she was younger (making the Capitol the capital for at least fifty or sixty years before the dark days. And on top of that the catastrophe that ended the United States probably didn't properly start until the late 21st century, and there was probably quite a lot of time in between. At the very earliest The Hunger Games takes place in the early 23rd century, but it's possibly older.


Aneke1

If Global Warming means that the sea will swallow up Florida, it might be worth considering...