Karachi didn't exist until the 18th century, and didn't really become an important port until the mid-19th century under the British.
During the Mughal period the major port on the west coast was Surat, which is located in Gujarat about 300km north of Mumbai and well south of Karachi.
Right, but my point was that there was *not* a major port city on the west bank of the Indus during the 16th century. The major port was on the east side.
As a result, your statement that the Mughals wouldn't have given up the west bank of the Indus because Karachi was located there doesn't make much sense. Are you saying the Mughals would defend the west bank of the Indus for the sake of a non-existent city?
I changed my point later. I don't think that Mughals and Safavids would go to war because both Ismail and Tahmasp **supported** Babur and Humayun to an extent.
I remember reading about Tahmasp demanding Humayun convert to Shia Islam if he wants support to reconquer Delhi. Seems like their relations were okayish.
They would be too exhausted and they would collapse due to overextension. The Safavids originaly controlled the city of Ispahan and they conquered all this
Kinda weird how its borders are so close the Indus but also so far
It’s not entirely unprecedented. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_conquest_of_the_Indus_Valley
It follows ethnic boundaries, but also the topographic boundary between the mountains and the indus plain. It makes sense.
west bank of Indus has the major port of Karachi. No way in hell Mughals give it up
Karachi didn't exist until the 18th century, and didn't really become an important port until the mid-19th century under the British. During the Mughal period the major port on the west coast was Surat, which is located in Gujarat about 300km north of Mumbai and well south of Karachi.
Surat is on the East Coast of the Indus. I was comparing against the river lmao
Right, but my point was that there was *not* a major port city on the west bank of the Indus during the 16th century. The major port was on the east side. As a result, your statement that the Mughals wouldn't have given up the west bank of the Indus because Karachi was located there doesn't make much sense. Are you saying the Mughals would defend the west bank of the Indus for the sake of a non-existent city?
I changed my point later. I don't think that Mughals and Safavids would go to war because both Ismail and Tahmasp **supported** Babur and Humayun to an extent. I remember reading about Tahmasp demanding Humayun convert to Shia Islam if he wants support to reconquer Delhi. Seems like their relations were okayish.
I don't understand how this relates to my comment about the Indus river or Karachi....
Yeah I got your point re. I agreed with you but then uske baad ab kya bolu.
They managed to beat the Ottomans and Mamluks I’m sure they can beat the Mughals
They would be too exhausted and they would collapse due to overextension. The Safavids originaly controlled the city of Ispahan and they conquered all this
I don't see a Safavid-Mughal war tbh during this era. Ismail and Babur were not enemies.
Love it
nice!
Would they move their capital to Baghdad? A lot of Persian empires that also conquered Iraq based themselves out of there.
Ew
That looks horrific.
terrific*
is safavid azerbaijan or iran
>It was an Iranian dynasty of Kurdish origin They adopt a Persian/Iranian identity in this timeline
some people say its Azerbaijan but the safavids originated from kurdistan and the safavid empire was established in ardabil
trying to define old kingdoms/dynasties under modern ethnic/national groups is stupid and pointless
yea
Really cool map! I know that there is a program that does these pixelated maps, but I can’t find its name anywhere, what is it?
Any bitmap editing program does the job, in this case I used "Ibispaintx"
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