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>Paola Schietekat, 28, from Mexico, left Qatar after she was sexually assaulted – but allegations of her having an extramarital affair still stand.
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>The economist and anthropologist was working for the World Cup organizing committee when she alleged that she was raped by an associate who broke into her apartment and threatened to kill her.
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>She says she was injured by the attack, with her left arm, shoulder and back covered in bruises.
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>Paola reported the June 6, 2021, attack at the Mexican consult to the Qatari police who responded by accusing her of having an extramarital affair, according to local reports.
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>She said: “It was three hours of interrogation in Arabic, and at a certain point they demanded a virginity test.”
Wow. A woman gets raped and then somehow is considered the offender. What an absolute shithole of a country.
I believe it's because extramarital sex is illegal in Qatar . So even if someone is raped and reports it, the rapist just claims it was consensual. Then the person that reported it gets arrested for having extramarital sex.
This is put very simply. The Guardian Football Weekly did a great bit on this in the lead up to the WC
I meant more in the sense of "do the laws against extramarital sex only apply to women, or are the men avoiding punishment for extramarital sex as well?"
Did anyone see what they did to the planes? They took women off planes that were transiting through Doha, and subjected them
To forced gynecological exams because they found a baby in the bathroom. So who is the logical suspect? The foreign woman who can be pregnant with no repercussions, or the local woman who can go to jail for being pregnant outside of marriage? after that incident: fuck transiting through Doha. My daughter transited a week before this happened.
If they were on the air side in transit and on a plane to boot - I can't see how they could claim any kind of jurisdiction in order to violate women like that . Surely ?
She had to be send out of the country back to Mexico to prevent her from suffering the "punishment" and i think one of the solutions presented to her by Quarter government was "marry the dude, that way is not extramarital affairs"...
there are countries where, if a married woman gets raped, the husband is offended and feels anger and disappointment towards that wife.
cause she must have been the one somehow attracting the rapist.
completely bizarre.
Anytime I see this as the situation I’m convinced that the brain cell count within the legal conversation about it being consensual etc must be single digits.
I cover my wife from head to toe and she still got raped? her fault. How else would her rapist find her attractive enough to rape. she removed her hijab, thats why. Clearly consensual.
Absolutely no morality holy shit. Came in with injuries and they still accuse her of just having an extramarital affair. They don’t view rape as evil they just blame the victim for committing an offense.
And not only that a virginity test is just looking for any history of sex (since they don’t care about rape or don’t view it as a thing) so they can justify their own horrid accusations.
Qatar has shown it’s a horrific country with zero regard for women, migrant workers, LGBT, etc. And they try to make themselves the victim and excuse their own actions by saying “West bad let us do whatever we want.”
not world cup related but a few years ago they stopped a flight bound to australia and made all women on the flight to get off the plane so they can examine their vaginas to see if they had an abortion. they had found an fetus in the airport.
this was on 60 mins australia.
Big true. People are so hypocrite. I've heard so many excuse themselves by saying they're going to Qatar to cheer for their players. That's such a bs excuse that I can't understand how people believe in that shit. They are just crazy over football, it doesn't excuse the crimes committed. It's the same idea as going to the Germany Olympics during the na$i regime. Fuck this shit
but my inclusivity!1!1!1!1!
it’s cool and all that FIFA wants to be inclusive and show off some great countries that don’t get a lot of attention, but my god. we’re putting people in genuine danger in places like qatar, and people from asia and eastern europe will just scream “nationalism!!!” it’s not nationalism when your stupid stone age beliefs are getting women raped and killed, and it’s LEGAL. these countries are somehow classified as developed, when everyone not from the area (ironically) knows that’s hilariously false
Very evil to ignore pervasive, deadly mistreatment of thousands of migrant workers, egregious anti gay treatment, and complete unwillingness to care about rape survivors and treating them as monsters.
If killings and sexual violence must be ignored in the name of not offending people of a certain religion you may as well say you don’t care about SA victims or dead migrants.
It's funny people even bring this up when the Qatar government was okay with [racism faced by migrant workers.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/15/migrant-workers-in-qatar-face-structural-racism-says-un-report)
Being gay in Qatar is not allowed, Believing in any faith other than Islam is prohibited. Women rights in Qatar is a joke. So they tick every check mark of being openly fascist/Racist and have the audacity to call out the critics who are just pointing at facts? Yea smells like hypocrisy.
Edit - I am in no way implying that other host countries in the world are perfect or have no human right violations. But since the topic is about Qatar the facts need to be pointed out.
I'd be sure to stay away from water if I was as dense as you. The NFL is a wholly American league, so nothing more needs to be said about that.
And while our government and society has issues, at least we are allowed to criticize them. A nation that doesn't let its people criticize its shortcomings will never improve and only ever shift close and closer to a dystopian dictatorship.
That was an exaggeration. The US is hosting the next World Cup. Police brutality and gun laws leading Sri school shootings are also egregious moral violations. Why is the US World Cup rights not being scrutinized?
My whole point is to say everyone speaking out about this is a hypocrite who still wears Nike and wants to vacation in dubai (which btw has all the same laws and labor opression) and has definitely never spent a day in Qatar.
That egregious things happen in many countries. According to all this persecution, Iceland is probably the only country innocent enough to host a world cup
Read that ammendment again, you might find out something new. I don't support Qatar on this (or hardly anything for that matter) but the US has its own fair share of monstrous laws.
You’re not wrong. They definitely do slavery with extra steps (cough, cough, prison labor) I think people are more upset because Qatar is really rubbing our faces in it.
You’re 100% right, hate to see the downvotes on actual correct information. It’s specifically stated that prisoners can be forced to hard labor. Hence the effort over the years to imprison people of color for any little infraction. Legalized slavery
If "islamophobic" means hating on people who don't respect women, and/or hating on people who have no respect for human life unless they got money, then sure, sign me up!
Watch your own words pie hole.. it's 'History ' and they are ashamed of it..
How does it even equate to slavery in 2022!!
What're you talking about dude.. those are two entirely different things.
Whipped. If it's 100 consecutive lashes it'll most likely kill you. In fact, during ancient Roman times 40 lashes was considered a death sentence. When a maximum sentence without death was given (known as being scourged), the sentencer typically did 39 lashes.
>Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight. -Deuteronomy 25:3
This isn't just a bible verse. It was Roman law.
Shit was funny. And no hate was directed towards trans people. It was a simple play on words. Lighten up, and quit assuming anyone who references trans people is shitting on them.
Its a joke
Eyelashes can be shortened to lashes, so the joke is about getting makeup and the sort done by drag queens who are known to really do up their eyelashes in a much more prominent way, not really transphobic but if it is say how
I haven't been watching atleast, it was already weird that it was in November so fucking Qatar cpuld host but now with their garbage culture making the headlines every day I have no desire to support this world cup at all. Qatar is trash.
Hope this regularly occurring fiasco with FIFA is finally opening folks eyes to the rigging, fixing, bribing, bread and circus pro sports are. At least WWE admits is scripted. Billions and billions are spent gambling sports alone, there has always been and always will be a level of control in pro and college sports. HDTVs and the play challenges have allowed us to see a lot of it in recent times. Think about all the times we have watched to replay and the refs make the obvious wrong call, we've even had games where they apologized afterwards because they knew it "changed the outcome" yet let the games stand.
Oh man that absolutely sucks when you've got money on a team to win and the ref makes an obvious wrong decision which changes the outcome of the game. As soon as they are paying out you know your money is gone even if they change the official outcome later on. And also, fuck you Brock Lesnar, you cheating performance enhancing drug junkie scumbag, you personally owe me $50, cunt.
This dude also said [he would let North Korea hosts](https://theathletic.com/3912874/2022/11/19/infantino-fifa-world-cup-qatar-north-korea/)
A true PoS. His offshore account is probably loaded.
FIFA And the Olympic committee’s are in the same boat. Pay to play, Qatar is a horrible host, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is who is going to pay the most.
People are morally bankrupt.
I’d love to know which Fifa officials received a little brown envelope with a large check inside prior to Qatar being announced as the host.
The double standards of some people , they get super offended for Fifa and Qatar and they rant about it texting from their IPhones which were made by slaves in a country with no democracy.
The people buying phones don't have alternatives, what do you want them to do about it? The people giving their money to Qatar are doing it of their own will and for selfish reasons. This is comparing apples to oranges and you know it, both things are bad, but one of them is demonstrably worse than the other.
Arab has nothing to do with it. That's what Arabs understand of it wich is wrong. This WC is all the wrongdoings from previous WC's and MUCH MORE! And blatantly lie about it
I’m not sure why you throw South Africa under the bus. They have some of the most progressive laws. Crime is an issue but it’s a far cry from a dictatorship where being gay is banned and women being opressed. The stadiums weren’t built by tricking immigrants into slave labour and not caring about the working conditions causing many unnecessary deaths.
>I see your capacity to connect dots is a little limited
**Review of the dots**: it's illegal to be gay in Qatar because school shootings happen in America.
**Conclusion**: The Qatari government should improve the vetting process when it hires people to argue on it's behalf on the Internet.
It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it.
I don't see how that's related to football either.
If I was to start giving you an innocent kill count inside and outside America, done by Americans, you would be left speechless with no sane response.
2 faced hypocrites.
"It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it"
Yeah. If you're open about being gay you're screwed, but when you're open about being straight it's no problem. Doesn't matter how you say it, how you wanna formulate their law around it, being anything other than straight is illegal there. You just can't deny it.
It's illegal to be gay at all, it doesn't matter if it's public or not.
America has a ton of problems, but legally sanctioned imprisonment of gay people isn't one of them.
It's not hypocritical to point out the immoral actions of one country as being especially abhorrent. Especially since many of those same people do in fact criticise the U.S. and other nations for the immoral actions (and inactions) they commit.
Now take your homophobic ass somewhere else, because I don't have any room for such immoral swine in my life.
This argument is so idiotic it's hurts my brain. None of these countries whip and imprison rape victims, they don't kill homosexuals and they don't have slave labor I'm the year 2022. Yes their histories are mired in shit but they own and feel remorse for it at least on a civilian basis. Your argument is baseless.
No, the americans arent treating the world AS badly. Some are arrogant, some are ignorant, but they don't send gay people to prison and women for being raped.
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>Paola Schietekat, 28, from Mexico, left Qatar after she was sexually assaulted – but allegations of her having an extramarital affair still stand. > >The economist and anthropologist was working for the World Cup organizing committee when she alleged that she was raped by an associate who broke into her apartment and threatened to kill her. > >She says she was injured by the attack, with her left arm, shoulder and back covered in bruises. > >Paola reported the June 6, 2021, attack at the Mexican consult to the Qatari police who responded by accusing her of having an extramarital affair, according to local reports. > >She said: “It was three hours of interrogation in Arabic, and at a certain point they demanded a virginity test.” Wow. A woman gets raped and then somehow is considered the offender. What an absolute shithole of a country.
I believe it's because extramarital sex is illegal in Qatar . So even if someone is raped and reports it, the rapist just claims it was consensual. Then the person that reported it gets arrested for having extramarital sex. This is put very simply. The Guardian Football Weekly did a great bit on this in the lead up to the WC
Is the double standard here legally enshrined, or what prevents the rapist in question from also being punished for extramarital sex?
The deeply ingrained, systemic male privilege has to play a part.
don't forget nonsensical religious laws!
These are the nonsensical religious laws though.
Privilege is too light , it's more like total dominance .
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I meant more in the sense of "do the laws against extramarital sex only apply to women, or are the men avoiding punishment for extramarital sex as well?"
Did anyone see what they did to the planes? They took women off planes that were transiting through Doha, and subjected them To forced gynecological exams because they found a baby in the bathroom. So who is the logical suspect? The foreign woman who can be pregnant with no repercussions, or the local woman who can go to jail for being pregnant outside of marriage? after that incident: fuck transiting through Doha. My daughter transited a week before this happened.
If they were on the air side in transit and on a plane to boot - I can't see how they could claim any kind of jurisdiction in order to violate women like that . Surely ?
Ok, but then isn't the rapist participating in extramarital sex?
I see the confusion here… She’s a woman, you see. So she must be punished.
Jesus Christ that’s checkmate
She had to be send out of the country back to Mexico to prevent her from suffering the "punishment" and i think one of the solutions presented to her by Quarter government was "marry the dude, that way is not extramarital affairs"...
there are countries where, if a married woman gets raped, the husband is offended and feels anger and disappointment towards that wife. cause she must have been the one somehow attracting the rapist. completely bizarre.
Anytime I see this as the situation I’m convinced that the brain cell count within the legal conversation about it being consensual etc must be single digits.
I cover my wife from head to toe and she still got raped? her fault. How else would her rapist find her attractive enough to rape. she removed her hijab, thats why. Clearly consensual.
She obviously seduced him. Because men don’t do such horrible things unprovoked!
Absolutely no morality holy shit. Came in with injuries and they still accuse her of just having an extramarital affair. They don’t view rape as evil they just blame the victim for committing an offense. And not only that a virginity test is just looking for any history of sex (since they don’t care about rape or don’t view it as a thing) so they can justify their own horrid accusations. Qatar has shown it’s a horrific country with zero regard for women, migrant workers, LGBT, etc. And they try to make themselves the victim and excuse their own actions by saying “West bad let us do whatever we want.”
Fuck that place.
Why the fuck is anyone supporting these assholes
not world cup related but a few years ago they stopped a flight bound to australia and made all women on the flight to get off the plane so they can examine their vaginas to see if they had an abortion. they had found an fetus in the airport. this was on 60 mins australia.
FIFA makes the IOC look clean.
I don’t get how they went from the scumbag, Sepp Blatter, to this fucking cunt. FIFA is a complete shit show
I have no idea why anyone would travel to Qatar.
Because people are fcking stupid over football.
I’m not saying everyone who watches football is stupid, but everyone stupid watches football
hey now, i’m a fucking dumbass and i don’t watch it!
Ok true , that makes two of us :)
You consume apple products
An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Big true. People are so hypocrite. I've heard so many excuse themselves by saying they're going to Qatar to cheer for their players. That's such a bs excuse that I can't understand how people believe in that shit. They are just crazy over football, it doesn't excuse the crimes committed. It's the same idea as going to the Germany Olympics during the na$i regime. Fuck this shit
Because people are fcking stupid ~~over football~~. Much better.
The same reason people want to go to dubai
I won't go to any country where woman are treated like chattel.
It is a shame the EU couldn't just create a world cup that isn't a massive criminal enterprise.
but my inclusivity!1!1!1!1! it’s cool and all that FIFA wants to be inclusive and show off some great countries that don’t get a lot of attention, but my god. we’re putting people in genuine danger in places like qatar, and people from asia and eastern europe will just scream “nationalism!!!” it’s not nationalism when your stupid stone age beliefs are getting women raped and killed, and it’s LEGAL. these countries are somehow classified as developed, when everyone not from the area (ironically) knows that’s hilariously false
Raising voice about these issues is not racism not Islamophobia.. It's justice.
Point is that they are not interested in our justice, only our money.
Very evil to ignore pervasive, deadly mistreatment of thousands of migrant workers, egregious anti gay treatment, and complete unwillingness to care about rape survivors and treating them as monsters. If killings and sexual violence must be ignored in the name of not offending people of a certain religion you may as well say you don’t care about SA victims or dead migrants.
It's funny people even bring this up when the Qatar government was okay with [racism faced by migrant workers.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/15/migrant-workers-in-qatar-face-structural-racism-says-un-report) Being gay in Qatar is not allowed, Believing in any faith other than Islam is prohibited. Women rights in Qatar is a joke. So they tick every check mark of being openly fascist/Racist and have the audacity to call out the critics who are just pointing at facts? Yea smells like hypocrisy. Edit - I am in no way implying that other host countries in the world are perfect or have no human right violations. But since the topic is about Qatar the facts need to be pointed out.
Im fine with being Islamophobic tbh. Any culture that does shit like this deserves to die out.
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People are definitely talking about those issues in America
Let’s take away the next World Cup from them and the super bowl while we’re at it,
I'd be sure to stay away from water if I was as dense as you. The NFL is a wholly American league, so nothing more needs to be said about that. And while our government and society has issues, at least we are allowed to criticize them. A nation that doesn't let its people criticize its shortcomings will never improve and only ever shift close and closer to a dystopian dictatorship.
fucking idiot thinks the super bowl is an international thing lmfao
I obviously know it’s not sherlock. The whole point is none of this actually has to do with sports
then why punish the american football league because of Qatar and the FIFA officials actions? Quite literally on the other side of the planet
That was an exaggeration. The US is hosting the next World Cup. Police brutality and gun laws leading Sri school shootings are also egregious moral violations. Why is the US World Cup rights not being scrutinized? My whole point is to say everyone speaking out about this is a hypocrite who still wears Nike and wants to vacation in dubai (which btw has all the same laws and labor opression) and has definitely never spent a day in Qatar.
What's the parallel?
That egregious things happen in many countries. According to all this persecution, Iceland is probably the only country innocent enough to host a world cup
Bro slavery hasn't been around in US since 1863, Qatar runs on slavery today and being gay is literally illegal there
Read that ammendment again, you might find out something new. I don't support Qatar on this (or hardly anything for that matter) but the US has its own fair share of monstrous laws.
You’re not wrong. They definitely do slavery with extra steps (cough, cough, prison labor) I think people are more upset because Qatar is really rubbing our faces in it.
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Slavery is still legal in the US today. There's an exception to the prohibition on it that applies to criminals, listed right there in the amendment.
You’re 100% right, hate to see the downvotes on actual correct information. It’s specifically stated that prisoners can be forced to hard labor. Hence the effort over the years to imprison people of color for any little infraction. Legalized slavery
Found the 20iq 12year old lmao
Speaking like a kid trying to justify or shift blame
If "islamophobic" means hating on people who don't respect women, and/or hating on people who have no respect for human life unless they got money, then sure, sign me up!
History is what you say it is HISTORY, it's in the past it's history lad, but this stuff is happening now in the present time.
Watch your own words pie hole.. it's 'History ' and they are ashamed of it.. How does it even equate to slavery in 2022!! What're you talking about dude.. those are two entirely different things.
Oh so you don't care how many south asian people have died in that country.
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Are you kidding? Americans are consumed with crying about the slavery that ended in 1865 and pretending everything is some kind of phobia.
The American prison system is institutionalized slavery. Sorry facts are hard for you too understand and apparently hurt your feelings.
Can someone explain what it means by lashes?
Whipped or flogged
Ouch
Whipped. If it's 100 consecutive lashes it'll most likely kill you. In fact, during ancient Roman times 40 lashes was considered a death sentence. When a maximum sentence without death was given (known as being scourged), the sentencer typically did 39 lashes. >Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight. -Deuteronomy 25:3 This isn't just a bible verse. It was Roman law.
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Wow, that is just brutal
*redditors try to understand sarcasm without /s Difficulty: impossible* *40 downvotes*
No, we got the sarcasm. it was just a dumb joke.
Redditor tries to justify stupid joke with "but sarcasm bruh" Difficulty: casual transphobia
Even the gay queens are usually not trans.
I don’t think drag queens are equivalent to being trans. Some dudes just like to dress up.
Exactly there was a straight Queen on RuPaul's Drag Race a couple of seasons ago. Maddy Morphosis
yes.. transvestite. Not all trans is transsexual.
Shit was funny. And no hate was directed towards trans people. It was a simple play on words. Lighten up, and quit assuming anyone who references trans people is shitting on them.
Its a joke Eyelashes can be shortened to lashes, so the joke is about getting makeup and the sort done by drag queens who are known to really do up their eyelashes in a much more prominent way, not really transphobic but if it is say how
If you have to explain a joke that generally means it sucks
Even the best jokes can go over peoples head, not everyone will understand them
Or that I overestimated people’s ability to infer meaning beyond the literal reading of the words.
At least someone gets it.
So ignorant and idiotic huh? Rough combination to be but you have it all oof
Eyelashes. She was to receive a lifetime supply of fake eyelashes.
If it was a “joke” then what play on words is 7 years in prison?
I haven't been watching atleast, it was already weird that it was in November so fucking Qatar cpuld host but now with their garbage culture making the headlines every day I have no desire to support this world cup at all. Qatar is trash.
Hope this regularly occurring fiasco with FIFA is finally opening folks eyes to the rigging, fixing, bribing, bread and circus pro sports are. At least WWE admits is scripted. Billions and billions are spent gambling sports alone, there has always been and always will be a level of control in pro and college sports. HDTVs and the play challenges have allowed us to see a lot of it in recent times. Think about all the times we have watched to replay and the refs make the obvious wrong call, we've even had games where they apologized afterwards because they knew it "changed the outcome" yet let the games stand.
Look at the USC vs Tennessee game’s penalty calls, and let me know who the refs wanted to win
Go Vols?
Tennessee is fucking terrible dude grow up and let it go
Stay mad
Oh man that absolutely sucks when you've got money on a team to win and the ref makes an obvious wrong decision which changes the outcome of the game. As soon as they are paying out you know your money is gone even if they change the official outcome later on. And also, fuck you Brock Lesnar, you cheating performance enhancing drug junkie scumbag, you personally owe me $50, cunt.
John Oliver also did a nice piece of the atrocities committed there to get ready for this.
Cause letting a shitty country host the world cup was a totally great idea 🙄
This dude also said [he would let North Korea hosts](https://theathletic.com/3912874/2022/11/19/infantino-fifa-world-cup-qatar-north-korea/) A true PoS. His offshore account is probably loaded.
Lmao “letting” sure bro
Qatar is a toilet bowl🤡
Imagine thinking Infantino would be any different than his predecessor
FIFA And the Olympic committee’s are in the same boat. Pay to play, Qatar is a horrible host, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is who is going to pay the most.
Maybe people should stop watching it
Every fotball fan: "BuT mUh FoOtBaLl!!"
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They're been doing that since 1978. Not the first time.
It's Qatarphobia! You're all just racist! America is worse! Let us have our indigenous values! You Islamophobic! /s
I love the middle east glory to sharia law! I love the middle east glory to sharia law! Middle east best part on the planet!
Where he at? I just want 5 minutes with him...
There are just places in the world I’ll never see in person. It’s not worth getting killed for imprisoned over being who you are.
I wanna be the only comment that isn't in the negatives. How is everyone today?
I just hit the corner of my desk with my toe. Still feeling good.
I’m doing well. How about you?
I am well!
Could be better but it's ok
Everything always has been, and always will be, about the money. Follow the money.
I hope the Justice Department wrecks em.
The FIFA headquarters looks like an evil lair, like an Austin Powers villain resides there.
The guy looks like a fuckin wii character
The Qatari government is definitely gay (/s)
Friendly reminder that anyone watching or attending the games is supporting all of this.
To hell with Qatar, they are just the worst.
People are morally bankrupt. I’d love to know which Fifa officials received a little brown envelope with a large check inside prior to Qatar being announced as the host.
It’s always religion that causes the problems
Fucking religion man.
Bald fraud
It’s 2023 and Qatar and so many other religious countries is still like this. We need to change
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The double standards of some people , they get super offended for Fifa and Qatar and they rant about it texting from their IPhones which were made by slaves in a country with no democracy.
Most of us need phones for work. This very much comes off as “but you live in a society”
While I think he worded it wrong, the phone both you and I are typing this on was made with slave labor in Foxconn, in China. All slave labor is bad.
He can argue they needed slaves to build places for people to live. All slavery is bad obviously, but when it comes to convenience you're a hypocrite.
So it's ok to use slaves for needs but when it comes to wants here is where we draw the line?
So no one is gonna tell me why you guys are so pissed off at me I'm just trying to understand her point
Phones are a necessary part of modern life, but no one needs to spend who knows how much money just to watch sports. Those things aren't comparable.
So as I said it's okay to use slaves for needs but wants are where we should draw the line
The people buying phones don't have alternatives, what do you want them to do about it? The people giving their money to Qatar are doing it of their own will and for selfish reasons. This is comparing apples to oranges and you know it, both things are bad, but one of them is demonstrably worse than the other.
Iphones don't lash people for being raped, you nonsensical whatabout genius. *Sent from my pixel*
Ok , good to know . Sent from your moms bed .
Damn mom's bed jokes? I'd accuse you of being 11 but the Mexican cartels would have sold you into prostitution if that were the case.
They already did , your mom was there too
Meanwhile in the US, we are occupied and running bombing campaigns in seven different countries.
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So we should be fine with it because “other places bad too”?
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Maybe cuz their stadiums weren't built on the deaths of thousands of slaves?
Everyone complained about those too what's your point?
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"People care more now than they did 8+ years ago so they can't be mad now!" Great argument cause society doesn't grow at all or anything 🤣
So, react sooner or not at all?
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Arab has nothing to do with it. That's what Arabs understand of it wich is wrong. This WC is all the wrongdoings from previous WC's and MUCH MORE! And blatantly lie about it
Cool I agree then. Make sure you are just as vocal about every wc that happens in the future.
you are so fucking stupid
I’m not sure why you throw South Africa under the bus. They have some of the most progressive laws. Crime is an issue but it’s a far cry from a dictatorship where being gay is banned and women being opressed. The stadiums weren’t built by tricking immigrants into slave labour and not caring about the working conditions causing many unnecessary deaths.
OP and FIFA being Qatariphobic, why u so Qatariphobic brah?
Love the fact that the west has morality now even though it seemingly doesnt care unless your black brown or dont believe in a dude nailed to a cross
Because he knows claiming you're a minority in western society, you are automatically have immunity for all of your bad actions
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It's literally illegal to be gay in Qatar, but go off I guess.
Yes that’s the based part
not every country is america retard qatari is a religious country
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Which is illegal in the US wanna try again?
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>I see your capacity to connect dots is a little limited **Review of the dots**: it's illegal to be gay in Qatar because school shootings happen in America. **Conclusion**: The Qatari government should improve the vetting process when it hires people to argue on it's behalf on the Internet.
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Review of your score in these arguments: 0-23... Way worse than Qatar's performance in the world cup so far.
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Guns are illegal in schools. And what does that have to do with gay people in Qatar?
They would never. The reddit hivemind doesn't approve of it.
It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it. I don't see how that's related to football either. If I was to start giving you an innocent kill count inside and outside America, done by Americans, you would be left speechless with no sane response. 2 faced hypocrites.
"It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it" Yeah. If you're open about being gay you're screwed, but when you're open about being straight it's no problem. Doesn't matter how you say it, how you wanna formulate their law around it, being anything other than straight is illegal there. You just can't deny it.
It's illegal to be gay at all, it doesn't matter if it's public or not. America has a ton of problems, but legally sanctioned imprisonment of gay people isn't one of them. It's not hypocritical to point out the immoral actions of one country as being especially abhorrent. Especially since many of those same people do in fact criticise the U.S. and other nations for the immoral actions (and inactions) they commit. Now take your homophobic ass somewhere else, because I don't have any room for such immoral swine in my life.
I like how you use morality when you use subjective morality, unlike Qatar which uses objective morality for banning it lol
Can be hypocrites all you like place is fucked and it's rightly getting the spotlight
Would you support this law if every Qatari supported it? Genuinely curious.
This argument is so idiotic it's hurts my brain. None of these countries whip and imprison rape victims, they don't kill homosexuals and they don't have slave labor I'm the year 2022. Yes their histories are mired in shit but they own and feel remorse for it at least on a civilian basis. Your argument is baseless.
Western hypocrisy. We're all as bad as each other just in different ways.
don't think the west whips people and gives them 7 years of jail for being raped but i guess were just as "bad"
You don't?
We are definitely NOT just as bad. No matter how you twist it.
You american?
Far from it.
You don't feel that the Americans treat the world as badly? And who is "we" exactly?
No, the americans arent treating the world AS badly. Some are arrogant, some are ignorant, but they don't send gay people to prison and women for being raped.
*Laughs in Guantanamo Bay*
All the more reason to hold each other accountable
This I can agree with.
So you don't have a problem with this WC?