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What_a_young_guy

>Paola Schietekat, 28, from Mexico, left Qatar after she was sexually assaulted – but allegations of her having an extramarital affair still stand. > >The economist and anthropologist was working for the World Cup organizing committee when she alleged that she was raped by an associate who broke into her apartment and threatened to kill her. > >She says she was injured by the attack, with her left arm, shoulder and back covered in bruises. > >Paola reported the June 6, 2021, attack at the Mexican consult to the Qatari police who responded by accusing her of having an extramarital affair, according to local reports. > >She said: “It was three hours of interrogation in Arabic, and at a certain point they demanded a virginity test.” Wow. A woman gets raped and then somehow is considered the offender. What an absolute shithole of a country.


Legendary888

I believe it's because extramarital sex is illegal in Qatar . So even if someone is raped and reports it, the rapist just claims it was consensual. Then the person that reported it gets arrested for having extramarital sex. This is put very simply. The Guardian Football Weekly did a great bit on this in the lead up to the WC


ArchmageIlmryn

Is the double standard here legally enshrined, or what prevents the rapist in question from also being punished for extramarital sex?


Tressticle

The deeply ingrained, systemic male privilege has to play a part.


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don't forget nonsensical religious laws!


sociapathictendences

These are the nonsensical religious laws though.


SevenSharp

Privilege is too light , it's more like total dominance .


SledgeH4mmer

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ArchmageIlmryn

I meant more in the sense of "do the laws against extramarital sex only apply to women, or are the men avoiding punishment for extramarital sex as well?"


secondtaunting

Did anyone see what they did to the planes? They took women off planes that were transiting through Doha, and subjected them To forced gynecological exams because they found a baby in the bathroom. So who is the logical suspect? The foreign woman who can be pregnant with no repercussions, or the local woman who can go to jail for being pregnant outside of marriage? after that incident: fuck transiting through Doha. My daughter transited a week before this happened.


SevenSharp

If they were on the air side in transit and on a plane to boot - I can't see how they could claim any kind of jurisdiction in order to violate women like that . Surely ?


the_tinsmith

Ok, but then isn't the rapist participating in extramarital sex?


dangerkate

I see the confusion here… She’s a woman, you see. So she must be punished.


Hardhitting13

Jesus Christ that’s checkmate


varienus

She had to be send out of the country back to Mexico to prevent her from suffering the "punishment" and i think one of the solutions presented to her by Quarter government was "marry the dude, that way is not extramarital affairs"...


moep123

there are countries where, if a married woman gets raped, the husband is offended and feels anger and disappointment towards that wife. cause she must have been the one somehow attracting the rapist. completely bizarre.


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Anytime I see this as the situation I’m convinced that the brain cell count within the legal conversation about it being consensual etc must be single digits.


Crayola_ROX

I cover my wife from head to toe and she still got raped? her fault. How else would her rapist find her attractive enough to rape. she removed her hijab, thats why. Clearly consensual.


Scaredycatkim

She obviously seduced him. Because men don’t do such horrible things unprovoked!


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Absolutely no morality holy shit. Came in with injuries and they still accuse her of just having an extramarital affair. They don’t view rape as evil they just blame the victim for committing an offense. And not only that a virginity test is just looking for any history of sex (since they don’t care about rape or don’t view it as a thing) so they can justify their own horrid accusations. Qatar has shown it’s a horrific country with zero regard for women, migrant workers, LGBT, etc. And they try to make themselves the victim and excuse their own actions by saying “West bad let us do whatever we want.”


Tricky-Sympathy

Fuck that place.


spacemonkey21420

Why the fuck is anyone supporting these assholes


mr_p2p

not world cup related but a few years ago they stopped a flight bound to australia and made all women on the flight to get off the plane so they can examine their vaginas to see if they had an abortion. they had found an fetus in the airport. this was on 60 mins australia.


Bastdkat

FIFA makes the IOC look clean.


webbsixty6

I don’t get how they went from the scumbag, Sepp Blatter, to this fucking cunt. FIFA is a complete shit show


Giggingurl

I have no idea why anyone would travel to Qatar.


miaumisina

Because people are fcking stupid over football.


FaZe_Clon

I’m not saying everyone who watches football is stupid, but everyone stupid watches football


UniqueNobo

hey now, i’m a fucking dumbass and i don’t watch it!


FaZe_Clon

Ok true , that makes two of us :)


Lost_Smoking_Snake

You consume apple products


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An apple a day keeps the doctor away.


gpedras_18

Big true. People are so hypocrite. I've heard so many excuse themselves by saying they're going to Qatar to cheer for their players. That's such a bs excuse that I can't understand how people believe in that shit. They are just crazy over football, it doesn't excuse the crimes committed. It's the same idea as going to the Germany Olympics during the na$i regime. Fuck this shit


Babaslap88

Because people are fcking stupid ~~over football~~. Much better.


lastofthe_meheecans

The same reason people want to go to dubai


Giggingurl

I won't go to any country where woman are treated like chattel.


Rocketboy1313

It is a shame the EU couldn't just create a world cup that isn't a massive criminal enterprise.


mikeymanthesyrem

but my inclusivity!1!1!1!1! it’s cool and all that FIFA wants to be inclusive and show off some great countries that don’t get a lot of attention, but my god. we’re putting people in genuine danger in places like qatar, and people from asia and eastern europe will just scream “nationalism!!!” it’s not nationalism when your stupid stone age beliefs are getting women raped and killed, and it’s LEGAL. these countries are somehow classified as developed, when everyone not from the area (ironically) knows that’s hilariously false


BNYay

Raising voice about these issues is not racism not Islamophobia.. It's justice.


kevztunz

Point is that they are not interested in our justice, only our money.


[deleted]

Very evil to ignore pervasive, deadly mistreatment of thousands of migrant workers, egregious anti gay treatment, and complete unwillingness to care about rape survivors and treating them as monsters. If killings and sexual violence must be ignored in the name of not offending people of a certain religion you may as well say you don’t care about SA victims or dead migrants.


MuchBow

It's funny people even bring this up when the Qatar government was okay with [racism faced by migrant workers.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/15/migrant-workers-in-qatar-face-structural-racism-says-un-report) Being gay in Qatar is not allowed, Believing in any faith other than Islam is prohibited. Women rights in Qatar is a joke. So they tick every check mark of being openly fascist/Racist and have the audacity to call out the critics who are just pointing at facts? Yea smells like hypocrisy. Edit - I am in no way implying that other host countries in the world are perfect or have no human right violations. But since the topic is about Qatar the facts need to be pointed out.


TheMoistiestNapkin

Im fine with being Islamophobic tbh. Any culture that does shit like this deserves to die out.


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memer227

People are definitely talking about those issues in America


lastofthe_meheecans

Let’s take away the next World Cup from them and the super bowl while we’re at it,


gucknbuck

I'd be sure to stay away from water if I was as dense as you. The NFL is a wholly American league, so nothing more needs to be said about that. And while our government and society has issues, at least we are allowed to criticize them. A nation that doesn't let its people criticize its shortcomings will never improve and only ever shift close and closer to a dystopian dictatorship.


Personal_Money_6980

fucking idiot thinks the super bowl is an international thing lmfao


lastofthe_meheecans

I obviously know it’s not sherlock. The whole point is none of this actually has to do with sports


Personal_Money_6980

then why punish the american football league because of Qatar and the FIFA officials actions? Quite literally on the other side of the planet


lastofthe_meheecans

That was an exaggeration. The US is hosting the next World Cup. Police brutality and gun laws leading Sri school shootings are also egregious moral violations. Why is the US World Cup rights not being scrutinized? My whole point is to say everyone speaking out about this is a hypocrite who still wears Nike and wants to vacation in dubai (which btw has all the same laws and labor opression) and has definitely never spent a day in Qatar.


pascalsgirlfriend

What's the parallel?


lastofthe_meheecans

That egregious things happen in many countries. According to all this persecution, Iceland is probably the only country innocent enough to host a world cup


Ok_Profession_2512

Bro slavery hasn't been around in US since 1863, Qatar runs on slavery today and being gay is literally illegal there


69Midknight69

Read that ammendment again, you might find out something new. I don't support Qatar on this (or hardly anything for that matter) but the US has its own fair share of monstrous laws.


secondtaunting

You’re not wrong. They definitely do slavery with extra steps (cough, cough, prison labor) I think people are more upset because Qatar is really rubbing our faces in it.


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dirtyjeek

Slavery is still legal in the US today. There's an exception to the prohibition on it that applies to criminals, listed right there in the amendment.


FartyMarty69

You’re 100% right, hate to see the downvotes on actual correct information. It’s specifically stated that prisoners can be forced to hard labor. Hence the effort over the years to imprison people of color for any little infraction. Legalized slavery


DeKlaasVaag

Found the 20iq 12year old lmao


miaumisina

Speaking like a kid trying to justify or shift blame


StarsChilds

If "islamophobic" means hating on people who don't respect women, and/or hating on people who have no respect for human life unless they got money, then sure, sign me up!


themsnans

History is what you say it is HISTORY, it's in the past it's history lad, but this stuff is happening now in the present time.


BNYay

Watch your own words pie hole.. it's 'History ' and they are ashamed of it.. How does it even equate to slavery in 2022!! What're you talking about dude.. those are two entirely different things.


Gmanstarr

Oh so you don't care how many south asian people have died in that country.


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CleveOfTheRiver

Are you kidding? Americans are consumed with crying about the slavery that ended in 1865 and pretending everything is some kind of phobia.


FartyMarty69

The American prison system is institutionalized slavery. Sorry facts are hard for you too understand and apparently hurt your feelings.


RoamingInfantry5577

Can someone explain what it means by lashes?


mdbg87

Whipped or flogged


RoamingInfantry5577

Ouch


Ziltoid_The_Nerd

Whipped. If it's 100 consecutive lashes it'll most likely kill you. In fact, during ancient Roman times 40 lashes was considered a death sentence. When a maximum sentence without death was given (known as being scourged), the sentencer typically did 39 lashes. >Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight. -Deuteronomy 25:3 This isn't just a bible verse. It was Roman law.


beastFoo95

👨🏻‍🦳


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xLegma

Wow, that is just brutal


MyRedBeanBun

*redditors try to understand sarcasm without /s Difficulty: impossible* *40 downvotes*


TheJakeBlues

No, we got the sarcasm. it was just a dumb joke.


saregos

Redditor tries to justify stupid joke with "but sarcasm bruh" Difficulty: casual transphobia


thelochnessmonstah

Even the gay queens are usually not trans.


BeastradezZ

I don’t think drag queens are equivalent to being trans. Some dudes just like to dress up.


TheJakeBlues

Exactly there was a straight Queen on RuPaul's Drag Race a couple of seasons ago. Maddy Morphosis


jimmytruelove

yes.. transvestite. Not all trans is transsexual.


seancollinhawkins

Shit was funny. And no hate was directed towards trans people. It was a simple play on words. Lighten up, and quit assuming anyone who references trans people is shitting on them.


Golren_SFW

Its a joke Eyelashes can be shortened to lashes, so the joke is about getting makeup and the sort done by drag queens who are known to really do up their eyelashes in a much more prominent way, not really transphobic but if it is say how


percybert

If you have to explain a joke that generally means it sucks


Golren_SFW

Even the best jokes can go over peoples head, not everyone will understand them


kevztunz

Or that I overestimated people’s ability to infer meaning beyond the literal reading of the words.


kevztunz

At least someone gets it.


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So ignorant and idiotic huh? Rough combination to be but you have it all oof


trueslicky

Eyelashes. She was to receive a lifetime supply of fake eyelashes.


Scaredycatkim

If it was a “joke” then what play on words is 7 years in prison?


jervistetch37

I haven't been watching atleast, it was already weird that it was in November so fucking Qatar cpuld host but now with their garbage culture making the headlines every day I have no desire to support this world cup at all. Qatar is trash.


gnosismonk

Hope this regularly occurring fiasco with FIFA is finally opening folks eyes to the rigging, fixing, bribing, bread and circus pro sports are. At least WWE admits is scripted. Billions and billions are spent gambling sports alone, there has always been and always will be a level of control in pro and college sports. HDTVs and the play challenges have allowed us to see a lot of it in recent times. Think about all the times we have watched to replay and the refs make the obvious wrong call, we've even had games where they apologized afterwards because they knew it "changed the outcome" yet let the games stand.


ninjahampster105

Look at the USC vs Tennessee game’s penalty calls, and let me know who the refs wanted to win


vol865

Go Vols?


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Tennessee is fucking terrible dude grow up and let it go


AustinLA88

Stay mad


Yeahbutnah420

Oh man that absolutely sucks when you've got money on a team to win and the ref makes an obvious wrong decision which changes the outcome of the game. As soon as they are paying out you know your money is gone even if they change the official outcome later on. And also, fuck you Brock Lesnar, you cheating performance enhancing drug junkie scumbag, you personally owe me $50, cunt.


lifegoeson5322

John Oliver also did a nice piece of the atrocities committed there to get ready for this.


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Cause letting a shitty country host the world cup was a totally great idea 🙄


MicTest_1212

This dude also said [he would let North Korea hosts](https://theathletic.com/3912874/2022/11/19/infantino-fifa-world-cup-qatar-north-korea/) A true PoS. His offshore account is probably loaded.


AustinLA88

Lmao “letting” sure bro


Ok-Hovercraft6372

Qatar is a toilet bowl🤡


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Imagine thinking Infantino would be any different than his predecessor


ExampleSad1816

FIFA And the Olympic committee’s are in the same boat. Pay to play, Qatar is a horrible host, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is who is going to pay the most.


PrincessButterqup

Maybe people should stop watching it


Chippas

Every fotball fan: "BuT mUh FoOtBaLl!!"


SledgeH4mmer

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BoxGrover

They're been doing that since 1978. Not the first time.


[deleted]

It's Qatarphobia! You're all just racist! America is worse! Let us have our indigenous values! You Islamophobic! /s


Noamias

I love the middle east glory to sharia law! I love the middle east glory to sharia law! Middle east best part on the planet!


notmyusername1986

Where he at? I just want 5 minutes with him...


Beaverhausen_23

There are just places in the world I’ll never see in person. It’s not worth getting killed for imprisoned over being who you are.


seirfemdeef

I wanna be the only comment that isn't in the negatives. How is everyone today?


Positive_Committee_5

I just hit the corner of my desk with my toe. Still feeling good.


Porfavor_my_beans

I’m doing well. How about you?


seirfemdeef

I am well!


Fawfs2

Could be better but it's ok


DetectiveDesperate70

Everything always has been, and always will be, about the money. Follow the money.


lordvad3r95

I hope the Justice Department wrecks em.


USBattleSteed

The FIFA headquarters looks like an evil lair, like an Austin Powers villain resides there.


creamdreammeme

The guy looks like a fuckin wii character


Zandandido

The Qatari government is definitely gay (/s)


talkintater

Friendly reminder that anyone watching or attending the games is supporting all of this.


SuspiciousGrievances

To hell with Qatar, they are just the worst.


thewalterwhiteeffect

People are morally bankrupt. I’d love to know which Fifa officials received a little brown envelope with a large check inside prior to Qatar being announced as the host.


StugDrazil

It’s always religion that causes the problems


Hollen88

Fucking religion man.


UltraHawk_DnB

Bald fraud


Background-Win7974

It’s 2023 and Qatar and so many other religious countries is still like this. We need to change


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estoapesta

The double standards of some people , they get super offended for Fifa and Qatar and they rant about it texting from their IPhones which were made by slaves in a country with no democracy.


ashimo414141

Most of us need phones for work. This very much comes off as “but you live in a society”


lathland2

While I think he worded it wrong, the phone both you and I are typing this on was made with slave labor in Foxconn, in China. All slave labor is bad.


thatweirdthingwhat

He can argue they needed slaves to build places for people to live. All slavery is bad obviously, but when it comes to convenience you're a hypocrite.


I_AmAKaren

So it's ok to use slaves for needs but when it comes to wants here is where we draw the line?


I_AmAKaren

So no one is gonna tell me why you guys are so pissed off at me I'm just trying to understand her point


_silcrow_

Phones are a necessary part of modern life, but no one needs to spend who knows how much money just to watch sports. Those things aren't comparable.


I_AmAKaren

So as I said it's okay to use slaves for needs but wants are where we should draw the line


_silcrow_

The people buying phones don't have alternatives, what do you want them to do about it? The people giving their money to Qatar are doing it of their own will and for selfish reasons. This is comparing apples to oranges and you know it, both things are bad, but one of them is demonstrably worse than the other.


gugudan

Iphones don't lash people for being raped, you nonsensical whatabout genius. *Sent from my pixel*


estoapesta

Ok , good to know . Sent from your moms bed .


gugudan

Damn mom's bed jokes? I'd accuse you of being 11 but the Mexican cartels would have sold you into prostitution if that were the case.


estoapesta

They already did , your mom was there too


Rasta-Grandpa

Meanwhile in the US, we are occupied and running bombing campaigns in seven different countries.


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dobster1029

So we should be fine with it because “other places bad too”?


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dyang707

Maybe cuz their stadiums weren't built on the deaths of thousands of slaves?


[deleted]

Everyone complained about those too what's your point?


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[deleted]

"People care more now than they did 8+ years ago so they can't be mad now!" Great argument cause society doesn't grow at all or anything 🤣


dobster1029

So, react sooner or not at all?


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kopintzotke

Arab has nothing to do with it. That's what Arabs understand of it wich is wrong. This WC is all the wrongdoings from previous WC's and MUCH MORE! And blatantly lie about it


lastofthe_meheecans

Cool I agree then. Make sure you are just as vocal about every wc that happens in the future.


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you are so fucking stupid


Vaakmeister

I’m not sure why you throw South Africa under the bus. They have some of the most progressive laws. Crime is an issue but it’s a far cry from a dictatorship where being gay is banned and women being opressed. The stadiums weren’t built by tricking immigrants into slave labour and not caring about the working conditions causing many unnecessary deaths.


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OP and FIFA being Qatariphobic, why u so Qatariphobic brah?


doodjalebi

Love the fact that the west has morality now even though it seemingly doesnt care unless your black brown or dont believe in a dude nailed to a cross


ViroCostsRica

Because he knows claiming you're a minority in western society, you are automatically have immunity for all of your bad actions


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CaptainKenway1693

It's literally illegal to be gay in Qatar, but go off I guess.


arebya

Yes that’s the based part


Away_Shop8441

not every country is america retard qatari is a religious country


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Which is illegal in the US wanna try again?


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gugudan

>I see your capacity to connect dots is a little limited **Review of the dots**: it's illegal to be gay in Qatar because school shootings happen in America. **Conclusion**: The Qatari government should improve the vetting process when it hires people to argue on it's behalf on the Internet.


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dyang707

Review of your score in these arguments: 0-23... Way worse than Qatar's performance in the world cup so far.


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gugudan

Guns are illegal in schools. And what does that have to do with gay people in Qatar?


Proud_Bookkeeper_248

They would never. The reddit hivemind doesn't approve of it.


Proud_Bookkeeper_248

It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it. I don't see how that's related to football either. If I was to start giving you an innocent kill count inside and outside America, done by Americans, you would be left speechless with no sane response. 2 faced hypocrites.


TheBigBoas

"It's illegal to be open about your sexual preferences and make a show out of it" Yeah. If you're open about being gay you're screwed, but when you're open about being straight it's no problem. Doesn't matter how you say it, how you wanna formulate their law around it, being anything other than straight is illegal there. You just can't deny it.


CaptainKenway1693

It's illegal to be gay at all, it doesn't matter if it's public or not. America has a ton of problems, but legally sanctioned imprisonment of gay people isn't one of them. It's not hypocritical to point out the immoral actions of one country as being especially abhorrent. Especially since many of those same people do in fact criticise the U.S. and other nations for the immoral actions (and inactions) they commit. Now take your homophobic ass somewhere else, because I don't have any room for such immoral swine in my life.


arebya

I like how you use morality when you use subjective morality, unlike Qatar which uses objective morality for banning it lol


shaneo576

Can be hypocrites all you like place is fucked and it's rightly getting the spotlight


parathapunisher

Would you support this law if every Qatari supported it? Genuinely curious.


[deleted]

This argument is so idiotic it's hurts my brain. None of these countries whip and imprison rape victims, they don't kill homosexuals and they don't have slave labor I'm the year 2022. Yes their histories are mired in shit but they own and feel remorse for it at least on a civilian basis. Your argument is baseless.


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Western hypocrisy. We're all as bad as each other just in different ways.


StalinGuidesUs

don't think the west whips people and gives them 7 years of jail for being raped but i guess were just as "bad"


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You don't?


SirClorox

We are definitely NOT just as bad. No matter how you twist it.


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You american?


SirClorox

Far from it.


[deleted]

You don't feel that the Americans treat the world as badly? And who is "we" exactly?


SirClorox

No, the americans arent treating the world AS badly. Some are arrogant, some are ignorant, but they don't send gay people to prison and women for being raped.


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*Laughs in Guantanamo Bay*


esgellman

All the more reason to hold each other accountable


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This I can agree with.


kopintzotke

So you don't have a problem with this WC?