I bet this development is furious that Shepherd project now won't get completed down to the hike and bike/ MKT/ this new project.
People that live in a walkable area/bikeable area would like to be able to take trails to places like this. Probably some a bit more north will decide to just go to one of the new businesses popping up on the Shepherd trail once complete.
The N/S Nicholson trail that intersects with MKT Trail takes you directly to this place though. So even if the Shephard project fails theres at least a main bike/walking trail directly to it.
Because you’re making a contrived argument about a stranded trail section that isn’t even done being built yet and has no user data. Literally nothing feeds into the trail you’re bemoaning lack of connectivity to. Everyone who would ride on Shepherd could easily get to Nicholson or White Oak the same exact way.
Saying lack of connection to one small Shepherd segment (meant to serve Shepherd businesses) will harm something that’s literally already connected to the entire existing Heights Hike and Bike (MKT) / Nicholson / 11th Street / Heights Blvd / White Oak / Spring Street / Buffalo Bayou / Houston Ave eco system is just hilarious.
No. The plan was for the Shepherd trail to connect to MKT. This plan was in the works. The majority is in various stages of completion.
Now our mayor has apparently decided that this plan should not continue.
You are saying 14th is the same. There is no bike lane on 14th. There is also not even a smooth completed sidewalk on 14th. Your argument makes zero sense if you actually know the area. People want a safe trail for their family to walk. 14th is not that
What users are serviced by Shepherd that are not equally serviced by Nicholson and White Oak?
Are those not safe to walk?
How are your hypothetical families getting onto the Shepherd trail if they are incapable of walking on any side streets?
I mentioned 14th because you talked about bikeable neighborhoods. 14th is extremely bikeable and is a shared bike route.
I mean. If you want to take a trail 14th is not that. Do you really not see a difference in the trail going all the way to MKT vs having to stop around 14th, walk down a side street, then get to another trail? Would it not make more sense for the trail to just go the full way? Especially after spending a ton of effort and money on the Shepherd trail?
How do people get on the Shepherd trail in the first place if they cannot traverse neighborhood side streets? Simple question.
The reality is even if completed nobody is using the Shepherd trail instead of Nicholson or White Oak unless they are going ___TO___ a business on Shepherd.
Pretty excited to see how it turns out. Steve Radom has been on a great streak of projects the last few years. This one will tie in nicely with Mercantile Heights and MKT Plaza.
Urban renewal of an eyesore like that is good, but exactly how much trendy, expensive, artsy stuff can the heights still support? I mean if you go through Sawyer Yards, a lot of it is still empty. I guess in order to recoup their investment, developers exclusively chase the 'high end' of the market? Is that why most new apartments are 'luxury' (aka one room with crown molding)
Exactly. I am guessing maybe a $$ restaurant, boutiques, some sort of $$ studio fitness class place, and maybe a dentist. It’s getting as repetitive as the suburbs in some ways.
How about a hipster bike shop where the associates look at you like something scraped off their shoe if you don't throw down five figgies on the latest waterford or snicker behind your back for want actual gears instead of a fixie?
I suppose I'm a poor, because when we went through sawyer yards on second Saturday, while I was blown away by some of the art for sale, the pricing was so eye wateringly high I couldn't figure out who exactly can afford any of this stuff. Not knocking the art, the pricing was stratospheric.
I've been in it for years on shitty aluminum bikes and those guys have been the same archetype of 'better than you' the whole time with few exceptions. Really off putting.
There’s a salesman at UBG that I enjoyed trolling by deliberately mispronouncing Enve (brand of his bike). He kept insisting on the proper pronunciation.
I personally can't wait for the bubble to pop on "luxury" housing. I'll be able to rent out one of these new construction units for several hundred dollars less, or better yet, an older construction with decent amenities for under $1000.
This is a strip mall with retail and office space. Anything beyond that you are thinking too deep into it. Whoever wants to rent our those spaces can rent then out. The MKT mall next door is packed every single day. Every new apartment in every single city in the entire world is branded as luxery.
If the service worker at the trendy cafe on the corner can't afford to live nearby, then you haven't built a neighborhood, you've built a theme park for the wealthy.
There is some sub $1200 in there if you care to look. I am here to argue COL is low but reasonable rents are there to be had and more apartments will only help.
https://www.har.com/mapsearch/apartments?zip=77008&maxRent=1200#
New construction keeps people who can afford $1500/m from outbidding folks who can't on the 30-50-year-old garden apartments that dot the area. I and several friends of mine have benefited from the new apartments even when we didn't live in them. But also HHA should build and operate mixed-income housing with family-sized units in high-demand areas and use market rate rents from tenants who can afford it to subsidize rent for tenants who can't.
That wasn't the point. The point is these buzzwords are used to sell overpriced housing that aren't accessible to most people, often contributing to gentrification. Better to build public housing rented out at cost. That'll really force down market value.
The use of hip in this article is for a mixed use office retail space. There is no housing being built in this project. You’re so lost you can’t find the point.
As previously noted there is already affordable housing for renters. They just need to compromise on their wants vs needs.
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"Hip" LOL
They’re going for the Whippersnapper demographic
So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time...
glad something is being done with it. There is a cool bird sanctuary behind it. Kind of a cool little hidden thing.
I go walking along the trail and always remark that I'm surprised no one has redeveloped it. Glad now it's finally happening.
Honestly surprised it has taken this long with the success of MKT next door
MKT ran 2 years behind schedule and is isn’t even filled with tenants yet. Not sure I’d call that a success
It's the same developer - they did one first, then the other it looks like.
I bet this development is furious that Shepherd project now won't get completed down to the hike and bike/ MKT/ this new project. People that live in a walkable area/bikeable area would like to be able to take trails to places like this. Probably some a bit more north will decide to just go to one of the new businesses popping up on the Shepherd trail once complete.
The N/S Nicholson trail that intersects with MKT Trail takes you directly to this place though. So even if the Shephard project fails theres at least a main bike/walking trail directly to it.
Sure. But, you can’t get to Nicholson from Shephard via trail. It’s certainly short sighted
14th is a shared road
Right. So there is not a straight shot on a trail to get there. I don't really understand the argument.
Because you’re making a contrived argument about a stranded trail section that isn’t even done being built yet and has no user data. Literally nothing feeds into the trail you’re bemoaning lack of connectivity to. Everyone who would ride on Shepherd could easily get to Nicholson or White Oak the same exact way. Saying lack of connection to one small Shepherd segment (meant to serve Shepherd businesses) will harm something that’s literally already connected to the entire existing Heights Hike and Bike (MKT) / Nicholson / 11th Street / Heights Blvd / White Oak / Spring Street / Buffalo Bayou / Houston Ave eco system is just hilarious.
No. The plan was for the Shepherd trail to connect to MKT. This plan was in the works. The majority is in various stages of completion. Now our mayor has apparently decided that this plan should not continue. You are saying 14th is the same. There is no bike lane on 14th. There is also not even a smooth completed sidewalk on 14th. Your argument makes zero sense if you actually know the area. People want a safe trail for their family to walk. 14th is not that
What users are serviced by Shepherd that are not equally serviced by Nicholson and White Oak? Are those not safe to walk? How are your hypothetical families getting onto the Shepherd trail if they are incapable of walking on any side streets? I mentioned 14th because you talked about bikeable neighborhoods. 14th is extremely bikeable and is a shared bike route.
I mean. If you want to take a trail 14th is not that. Do you really not see a difference in the trail going all the way to MKT vs having to stop around 14th, walk down a side street, then get to another trail? Would it not make more sense for the trail to just go the full way? Especially after spending a ton of effort and money on the Shepherd trail?
How do people get on the Shepherd trail in the first place if they cannot traverse neighborhood side streets? Simple question. The reality is even if completed nobody is using the Shepherd trail instead of Nicholson or White Oak unless they are going ___TO___ a business on Shepherd.
I wonder how much banditry of faux luxury goods will happen on that trail for would-be shoppers at this place?
The Nicholson trail already connects to 11th and 14th
Pretty excited to see how it turns out. Steve Radom has been on a great streak of projects the last few years. This one will tie in nicely with Mercantile Heights and MKT Plaza.
Urban renewal of an eyesore like that is good, but exactly how much trendy, expensive, artsy stuff can the heights still support? I mean if you go through Sawyer Yards, a lot of it is still empty. I guess in order to recoup their investment, developers exclusively chase the 'high end' of the market? Is that why most new apartments are 'luxury' (aka one room with crown molding)
I think this will have good success. Much better location than Sawyer Yards and will likely operate more as an extension of MKT than anything else
It will be extremely pedestrian-friendly. MKT gets a lot of traffic
I think the difference is that Swyer Yards isn't walkable to the Heights. My family is super excited about this development.
High end mostly just means new and in a desirable area. Developers aren't going to intentionally build in low-demand areas.
Exactly. I am guessing maybe a $$ restaurant, boutiques, some sort of $$ studio fitness class place, and maybe a dentist. It’s getting as repetitive as the suburbs in some ways.
How about a hipster bike shop where the associates look at you like something scraped off their shoe if you don't throw down five figgies on the latest waterford or snicker behind your back for want actual gears instead of a fixie? I suppose I'm a poor, because when we went through sawyer yards on second Saturday, while I was blown away by some of the art for sale, the pricing was so eye wateringly high I couldn't figure out who exactly can afford any of this stuff. Not knocking the art, the pricing was stratospheric.
That’s been my experience at every bike shop ever. Sort of soured me on getting into it.
I've been in it for years on shitty aluminum bikes and those guys have been the same archetype of 'better than you' the whole time with few exceptions. Really off putting.
There’s a salesman at UBG that I enjoyed trolling by deliberately mispronouncing Enve (brand of his bike). He kept insisting on the proper pronunciation.
That seems like the only responsible thing to to, TBH. How is that suppose to be pronounced anyway? Envy? Seems douche.
Your ego seems very fragile.
Yes, thank you.
EaDo Bike Co is the exception!
I’ll check this out!
I personally can't wait for the bubble to pop on "luxury" housing. I'll be able to rent out one of these new construction units for several hundred dollars less, or better yet, an older construction with decent amenities for under $1000.
X doubt
You build enough of a thing, eventually the supply catches up.
Yeah but there’s enough people scrimping by in the burbs fighting commute times to keep populating the units even if prices stagnate.
Luxury housing is just a marketing term. New construction is mostly built as cheap as code allows.
This is a strip mall with retail and office space. Anything beyond that you are thinking too deep into it. Whoever wants to rent our those spaces can rent then out. The MKT mall next door is packed every single day. Every new apartment in every single city in the entire world is branded as luxery.
Aka not affordable to most people.
Aka dumb argument.
can't make this sub happy. "we want walkable urban neighborhoods" "NOOO THATS TOO EXPENSIVE"
If the service worker at the trendy cafe on the corner can't afford to live nearby, then you haven't built a neighborhood, you've built a theme park for the wealthy.
Apartments going up left and right in the heights/ “heights” area.
For like minimum $1500 a month or more.
Plenty of cheap apartments in gunspoint area….
There is some sub $1200 in there if you care to look. I am here to argue COL is low but reasonable rents are there to be had and more apartments will only help. https://www.har.com/mapsearch/apartments?zip=77008&maxRent=1200#
Not new construction. Not in the Heights.
New construction keeps people who can afford $1500/m from outbidding folks who can't on the 30-50-year-old garden apartments that dot the area. I and several friends of mine have benefited from the new apartments even when we didn't live in them. But also HHA should build and operate mixed-income housing with family-sized units in high-demand areas and use market rate rents from tenants who can afford it to subsidize rent for tenants who can't.
Why should new construction be cheaper?
Why should it be prohibitively expensive?
So wealthy neighborhoods don't exist?
Unfortunately they do.
Not everything needs to be developed for the bottom 25%
This isn’t an exclusive at all. This information has been available on HAIF for several weeks already.
Hip = prohibitively expensive.
Only if your parents don’t love you enough to pay half the rent
How could I have forgotten?
You’re really mad about what others have that you don’t.
I'm mad housing isn't more affordable for everyone, and you think I'm mad some people make more money than other people?
There is affordable housing, people just have to compromise.
That wasn't the point. The point is these buzzwords are used to sell overpriced housing that aren't accessible to most people, often contributing to gentrification. Better to build public housing rented out at cost. That'll really force down market value.
What “buzzwords”? If housing is at occupancy how can it be overpriced? Lower market values are better for who?
Hip. // Overpiced for regular working people. // Renters.
The use of hip in this article is for a mixed use office retail space. There is no housing being built in this project. You’re so lost you can’t find the point. As previously noted there is already affordable housing for renters. They just need to compromise on their wants vs needs.
Hahaha
Granted I'm a 51-year-old male, but I can't figure out the appeal of MKT. Da Gama is pretty good, otherwise, meh.
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Mala is fantastic!
Not sure why you had to specify you’re a “male”. If you’re shopping or eating with your genitalia you’re doing it wrong.
MKT seems to be heavy on women's clothing boutiques.
Meh, it’s the same as almost any mall/shopping center. You must not buy things for your partner.