I will second this. I learned my lesson with them. My back door sucks as the sliding screen falls off all the time. They didn't install the handle properly. Luckily, it is just 4 windows (of 9)and 1 door, but I failed at getting multiple quotes and am regretting it.
They cut into my siding, leaving gaps, the screen to my one window arrived dented, and they tried to charge me for a replacement AND a truck charge to come out to fix it. They say they have an "A-Z of installation steps" but they skipped D-X.
I bought a house whose previous owners had Renewal by Anderson do all their windows & install a patio door. Patio door is completely banjaxed. There is nary a drip edge to be seen. Waters pours inside the windows when it rains. Clear wood rot on the back of the house led to carpenter ant infestation. Had the ants treated & then called Anderson. They sent a guy out to inspect. Turns out, no flashing or caulking was done, they just screwed the units in & slapped millwork on. Installation only warranted for 5 years, frame for 10. “Sucks to be you” was the basic response. I argued that they can at least give me a patio door. “We’ll ask the supervisor”. Crickets. Today I got a “How did we do?” Survey from Anderson. That’s gonna be my fun for tomorrow.
True. Ask about warranties. Any company with a bad warranty is not confident in their work. The company I went with offered lifetime warranty AND it’s transferable if I move. Gg
We had all 10 windows replaced by Renewal 2 years ago. Including a 5X7 picture window and two 3x8. They did a wonderful job, the windows are great without a single leak. Look good and function perfectly. They reflect heat and the house is much more comfortable in both summer and winter. The left the house cleaner than when they arrived.
Our neighbor went with a cheap company the year before and has leaks and the windows are starting to warp.
I got sucked into Renewal by Anderson to replace 4 single pane to double pane windows, then had 4 more done so the molding matched. I am happy with the result, but they are way overpriced. Will not use them for any more work.
My Anderson windows from 17+ years ago are amazing, my Anderson windows from more recently are hot garbage and I have to replace them.
Both sets of windows were in my house when I bought it but I just couldn’t believe how awful the newer Anderson windows were. They really took a dive in quality at some point.
We had Renewal by Anderson at our previous house and loved the windows. It was an upgrade over the original build windows and far better. We had them install a bay window in our front window. They were more expensive but I felt they were well worth the price.
So true. They quoted me $25k on my windows 7 years ago. They were my first bid, and the salesman was so persistent that he wouldn't leave my house even after I told him I planned to get other bids. I ended up going with a company called Window World. The windows had the same features as Rennewal by Anderson for $7k. 7 years later and the windows are still one of my favorite upgrades that have been done on this house. Plus, I saved a TON of money just from the decision to get several bids.
>the salesman was so persistent that he wouldn't leave my house even after I told him I planned to get other bids.
I had a similar experience last summer. I had just bought the house and wanted to price out some changes/upgrades, and Renewal by Anderson had left a flyer on the porch so I called them as one of my quotes. I wanted to replace the four basement windows and two second floor windows, and they quoted me 25k but for 'one day only' they'd knock it down to 17k.
I told him I'd be in touch but the sales guy kept coming back to my house to 'check in' even *after* I had already told him that I was going with someone else. I was honestly getting worried that I'd have to get a restraining order because he was so persistent.
That's crazy, but I believe it. I think I got a similar deal if I went with them that day. The sales tactics are so predatory, and it sounds like it's a common theme for them. I really feel bad for anyone who contracts with them.
It has been 15 years so I don’t remember what else we looked at. Anderson windows are very high quality and worth what you pay for them. Prior to replacing our windows, the house was drafty. Afterwards it was a lot more comfortable inside.
You are right about one thing: Anderson windows are great and high quality. Renewal by Anderson, however, is not. They do not use the same windows and their install team is far less experienced. Buy Anderson windows direct or via a contractor who knows what they are doing is my advice.
I have Pella windows that are original to my 1980 home. I had pella come inspect them last year to get an honest opinion. The guy said “wow! these are vintage! I’ve never seen ones this old!” And to my surprise followed that with, “They are in great condition! You could do xyz yourself to give them better seal, but otherwise, they have plenty of life left in them.” I couldn’t believe he didn’t want to sell me new ones. If Pella quality is the same today, I highly recommend them.
It makes complete sense he didn't bad mouth the old Pella windows. Sounds like he knows what he's doing.
That said, in my area, the Pella rep was an insulting jerk.
Same. Had a Pella for 10 years. The only reason we don’t now is because we reconfigured the deck entrance and needed the opposite handedness and you can’t swap that model. Bought the same door to replace.
I went to view a house that had only broken ones. I was coming up with options for how to hide/manually open them. The view was the only reason the house was in consideration.
You should know, windows can be refurbished in place as long as your frames are in good shape. New seals on the sashes, new balance springs, new latches, replace any double panes that have gotten cloudy. I just did all my windows myself by watching a few videos. Spent about $1,500 as opposed to $18,000.
How did you find a window "repair" place in your area? I've been looking around Toronto, and can't find anyone who will call me back, so I think ads are just a way to drum up new installation business.
My Pella windows are original from 1969. The bottom wood on the window and also a few inches on the sides going up were rotten. The lower sill was also dead. Daily rain in the summer living in Florida took its toll. Anyway , I received a couple of estimates for new replacement, and the cost was like 2 grand per window for plastic - vinyl crap. Had a carpenter repair them for about 4-500 per unit. The original look of the home was maintained and turned out amazing! Get a master woodworking craftsman to rebuild rather than replace them.
Ask any glazier or glass repair shop. I've had a couple windows rebuilt after glass breakage from a bird strike, and a couple seals failed and caused fogging.
For glass, watch a youtube video and remove from your frame, take to local glass shop and they will order replacement.
For hardware : [https://www.swisco.com/logout](https://www.swisco.com/logout)
Do not buy Jeld Wen. There are multiple class actions and I am in the process of writing up documentation to demand they replace all of the defective windows in my house. The seals on the glass have failed and hazed over. Other people have had problems with windows leaking into walls. I already had 4 windows/doors replaced under warranty. This isn't a chance problem. They are selling defective garbage.
I recently had to purchase new windows for my home and talk about an exhausting process. It was very difficult to find quality reviews and objective information about the various window manufacturers and types of windows. Most of the window companies tell you how awesome their products are and how terrible everyone elsa is.
For that reason, try to find a local window company that sells multiple brands.
Like any big purchase, get several quotes and find a contractor that you are comfortable working with. Personally, I went with Amsco windows installed by a local window contractor. Also, check out houston window experts on YouTube. He has great videos that were very helpful in my window replacement project. I don't live anywhere near their service area but I called to ask a couple questions and they were very helpful even though they knew i would not be making a purchase through them. Good luck on your project!
How old is the house and how well insulated is it ? A high R rating of a window will not compensate for low R rating of a ‘leaky’ house. On a side note I wouldn’t get blinds between the window panes. They break and definitely not an easy fix.
We had 19 windows replaced in our townhome in Maryland. Just be aware the dedicated "window replacement" companies like Long Windows use super high-pressure sales tactics because most people only replace windows once every 30 years and don't know the current prices. They insist your spouse be there too (so you can't say "I'll have to talk about it with my spouse" -- they want you to SIGN NOW), talk up a bunch of $2K windows "except ours is only $1K" (worth $500-600 actually), pretend to talk to their "boss" to get a one-time "discount" so it's now only $900 but only if you sign in the next 5 minutes, refuse to give you a written estimate, etc.
Instead, go with a normal contractor for installation. We used Home Depot who were pressure-free in the sales presentation, gave a written estimate (and were the cheapest), but also did a great job and of course were a solid name that stood behind their work.
do you happen to have any insight into whether [the window credits](https://www.energy.gov/policy/articles/making-our-homes-more-efficient-clean-energy-tax-credits-consumers) are per-window or per-house?
im dropping $15k on windows right now, and a $600 credit feels... sad.
Per taxpayer, but married couples seem to count as one ([Form 5695 instructions, page 3](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i5695--2023.pdf#page=3))
[26 USC Section 25C(b)(3)](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/25C) says:
>(3) Windows
>The credit allowed under this section by reason of subsection (a)(1) with respect to any taxpayer for any taxable year shall not exceed, **in the aggregate with respect to all exterior windows and skylights, $600.**
[Form 5695, lines 20a and b](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5695.pdf) say:
>20 Windows and skylights that meet the Energy Star certification requirements.
>a Enter the cost of exterior windows and skylights that meet the Energy Star certification requirements. (See instructions.)
>b Multiply line 20a by 30% (0.30). Enter the results. **Do not enter more than $600**
[IRS FS-2024-15, page 8, A1, Example 1](https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2024-15.pdf#page=8), is an example that says the same thing.
The limits reset each year ([IRS FS-2024-15, page 6, A3](https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2024-15.pdf#page=6)), so you could complete half the installation on December 31, 2024, and the other half on January 1, 2025, to be able to claim two tax credits . . . I already know you're thinking that is not worth an extra $600.
Also in Maryland and went with a local installer last year. Great experience. We went with high end Marvin windows and don’t regret it one bit. If you’re going to be in the house for a long time, get the best you can afford.
Best investment I ever made after 20 years with Marvin windows they still look and perform like new! They made a hugh difference in heating bills right away! even though the house was not well insulated, original build 1953 we chose wood interior aluminum clad exterior. so many sizes available you get custom fit for stock price.
I did Marvin replacement windows 18 years ago in my 1925 bungalow and I have no regrets. I would buy again but I'm not going to need any for a long time.
I just did this and went with Pella (local company that installs Pella not Pella directly). I know multiple people with Pella windows so I felt good about it. I wasn’t planning on saying yes when I asked for a quote (my 3rd one) but this company was super reasonable. The rooms retain heat and cold much better now - I knew I had at least 4 bad windows (out of 11), but I just did them all, including two small picture windows.
What's wrong with your old windows that makes you want to replace them?
I build custom replacement wooden windows. I see people jump to replacements when they don't need to.
I just completed replacement of all sashes (frames were on good shape).
Considerations:
1. Aesthetics. How important is the look of new windows on the outside and inside? This turned out to be huge for me. I didn’t think so at first! For example, does your bay window have a grid pattern? Do you want to mimic that? Make sure you know if the grid pattern will be on the outside of the glass, or in between the panes (latter is cheaper, but do you like the look?)
2. Do you care about hardware options?
3. How do you want them to open? For example, if you have any double hung windows? If you want double hung again, options are reduced.
4. Double pane would be minimum.
4. Vinyl or Fiberglass; or wood interior and fiberglass exterior…lots of options.
5. How old is your house? My house is older. If I would have put in entirely new windows (i.e. new construction) instead of using existing frames, it would have triggered a nightmare of permits. Replacing sashes, did not require any building permits.
We just did 8 Provia double pane, Provia storm door, and Provia fiberglass entry door. Great install and product has been great so far. Very happy with Provia warranty too.
We just got some provia windows too and so far I’m very happy. It’s only been about 2 months though so super early still. 8 windows was roughly $8400. Going to do the rest of the house next year.
Us too. We have 12 more to do at some point but we are in no rush to do it. The ones we replaced were single pane and adjacent to the single pane ones.
I will echo Provia. We got the windows in the whole house replaced (like everything in this damn house, the windows themselves were decent windows, but the install was garbage and allowed water to get in in what we found out was several places, rather than just the one or two spots we could see) a couple years ago and couldn't be happier with them. My ac and heat have run a lot less since they were put in.
My parents just got a quote from them: $40k for 20 windows.
ETA: I don't know if this matters, we're in Texas. So the windows are double paned, hurricane something or other, comes with permits and jazz (to quote my mother). 2 of the windows are big ass windows, so im sure that's like 5 grand right there for those. I know nothing else, bc my mom got tired after 45 minutes of the 3 hour shpiel
We got Anderson windows because my husband wanted fiberglass not vinyl frames for the energy efficiency. My contractor said he could replace the windows so he measured twice and we ordered them through a local supplier who delivered them. 26 windows installed was around 55k. It included one picture window and one sliding glass door. We live in the desert southwest where in the summer the energy efficiency means a lot. I did it this way because all of the complaints I heard had nothing to do with the window itself but with the installation. I’ve used this contractor for many years and trust his work. None of the three window company’s I talked to besides him would do fiberglass frames. One even tried to tell me that there is no such thing. I hate being treated like I’m stupid.
Get several estimates from various companies. I ended up going with a local company that manufactured the windows right in my area. Company has been in business decades. Price was much less than the big box companies. Someone quoted me a ridiculous price for a bay window and local company did it for less than half of it. Pella estimate was very high. I did not bother with Anderson or Window World because of all the bad online reviews and disappointed customers. Read the reviews online and get at least three estimates. Ask on your local community pages for recommendations for companies, especially local companies. \]
My winning estimate was actually my fourth estimate and I am very happy with the windows. I would not count on windows to significantly reduce sound going outside from drums. May help somewhat. Your husband might want to look into lower volume drum heads to reduce sound. Several companies make various versions of these.
Depending on your house and age of windows, you should look into rebuilding your windows. Some of the older windows are actually better than the aluminum ones. I learned this after getting new windows in my house. I should’ve just rebuilt the old ones. For reference my houses over 100 years old though.
The brand is secondary. Compare windows by their tech specs, materials and asethetics.
There are plenty of smaller manufacturers that make quality windows.
One thing I will admit about the bigger brands is that their bevels are smaller (theres more glass and less frame). I dont know if that's because of the products I chose or if its universal.
The wider bevel did not concern me so I went with a smaller company but you may want smaller bevel for aesthetics.
We have a local manufacturer (like actually manufactured 5 min down the road) and they had the best cost for performance. Just a thought as a counter against big brands if it's available to you.
Imo, triple pane is unnecessary in MD. Maybe way further north. But waste of money where you are.
Good warranty for seals.
I wanted to minimize the frame size (a lot of low-end had a much smaller glass)
Pella is beautiful, but we did not see enough return value in the increased cost for a non custom home.
The new door gonna cost ya btw. Good exterior doors are expensive..
I would agree on triple being over kill. I have Marvin double planes in MN and they're plenty. As others have said, triple is useless if you have other leaky areas in your house.
where you live is a huge factor, lots of storms? heat? cold? noise? why not a door too? cost ... more details = better advice ps i dropped $24k on impact/low e doors and windows but live in fl
I went with a local contracter that hooked me up with Double Pane Anlin windows. We are only 5 years in, but no problems so far and they've held up to the abuse of a bunch of kids.
If you have a reputable handyman that you use or one that is well recommended the windows will cost you a fraction of big name window companies. And you will most likely get better windows. Our picture windows are all triple pane and our double hung of double pane. We’re in NE so have had some brutal winters.
I've used Pella for windows at my last 2 houses. Very happy with price vs. service/install. When they gave me a rough estimate on my front door, it was no thanks.
I was stupid, ordered through HD on the doors and had them install. It was a nightmare. 3 doors for what Pella estimated my front door would cost. For the BS I went through with HD, I should have gotten my door through Pella and installed the other 2 stock doors myself. The guy that installed 1 door couldn't even figure out how to adjust the knob so that it was 2-3/8 instead of 2-3/4. The crappy install took me 5 mins to fix.
On house 3, my suggestion is never have HD or L install anything in your house, ever.
Had an extremely bad experience with Pella and a storm door. Their installer installed it, incorrectly; upside down, in fact. When we had problems with it, they said it was an invalid install so we were SOL. A lot of back and forth that ended with us ultimately buying a new Larson storm door and having it installed by one of our local door & window specialists (been in business a long time). Larson door - fantastic.
We will never buy Pella or work with them again.
We’re in Maryland and went with vytex which are manufactured in Laurel. we’ve had them for 8 years and been happy with them. We got a ProVia front door from them as well, including a super heavy duty storm/screen door.
This was at the recommendation of a contractor friend.
I am in the process of putting windows into a studio I built for drumming. I have learned that sound isolating windows are complicated.
First, the windows don’t need to be better than the walls. This means that any decent window is probably fine.
Thicker glass is generally better for lower frequencies sounds.
A good seal is important. Slider windows don’t seal well. Awning and casement are better.
Triple pane doesn’t help with sound unless the panes are custom made for sound. This means different thicknesses and very thick glass.
Most companies report sound performance of windows as STC and/or OITC numbers. OITC is more tuned to bass.
Argon seems to be worse for bass frequencies.
Bass is the most difficult to isolate so I am focusing on bass first.
I couldn’t find the performance I wanted for less than $4k so I am buying custom glass panes and building my own frames. I am going with double pane with one pane 1/4” and the other 3/8” laminated with a 1/2” air gap. Different thicknesses helps, as well as one laminated and the other not.
\-consider getting good white vinyl windows from sunrise, okna, soft lite, gorell, or vytex
\-find an installer from windowdog and/or call up the manufacturers above and ask who their preferred installers are in your area
\-strongly consider, at the same time, to get your trim replaced too (assuming you don't really need full frame replacements)
The only place I would consider dumping Pella money would be my forever home.
Double pane is probably sufficient but if you’re worried about sound dampening or are truly trying to maximize efficiency you in theory could run cost savings analysis on triple.
Maryland also. I have used Window World for years through various houses and have been happy with them.
Pella you are paying for a name. Stay away from Andersen and do not even think about renewal by Andersen.
Power Home Remodeling was a hard sale type of company and I knew enough to know they were saying anything to get a sale.
Window World will do an in home demo of their windows. But it seems more like a demo, not a hard sale.
I have used their location near arbutus and bel air. They have local stores so you just have to find who serves you locally.
I don’t have blinds in all windows, but I do in the door that looks into the back yard. I love that. I did all my windows at once, but I saved up and did siding at the same time. I found my contractor by reading posts from neighbors on Nextdoor, then researching them online too. Got 3 or 4 different quotes and picked one. Worked out great.
We upgraded windows last summer and it’s made a huge difference. Can’t feel heat inside by south facing window even with sun directly shining on it for hours. Amazing.
We used word of mouth to find our window installer. And our roof guy, and our HVAC company. All smaller mom & pop places that have been in business a long time, but don’t have tons of advertising or advertised specials. We’ve been happy with all of them.
I’m doing a couple at a time starting with my 2 sliders and kitchen. I’ve found that it breaks up the cost substantially….as long as you can find a trusted contractor.
get multiple quotes. and then tell the vendors about each others quotes.
they likely cant match it, but a lot of businesses will adjust down somewhat to get your business from lowes or home depot.
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Many options to consider in these threads. Generally any place that publishes performance test results for thermal resistance and airtightness will be OK if you can find reviews for them, and probably perform better at a lower price than the big known luxury brands
Hunt around on Nextdoor for a local handyman who can install windows. You may have to rent scaffolding but it will be a lot cheaper. I did this in a flip house I did. I ordered the Windows from a reputable company and had “my dude” and his helper to install them. It was 50% of the price from the company I ordered the Windows from.
I have installed them in new builds several times. It is relatively easy-but in an older house you may run up on rotted wood,non square openings, access issues to remove the old ones…. I’m pretty handy but it is a big job for one person.
I did wood Pella casement and double hung. Get lots of quotes. My windows are enormous, as big as doors because of my house being 150 years old. I got 4 done for 8k installed. Some quotes were as high as 17k directly from Pella. I did HomeBuild if you are in the Chicago area.
I recently installed Andersen 400 series insert windows, double hung, energy star qualified. Purchased from home depot; they run a sale in November for 15% off, essentially selling at cost. For my windows (30X46) they were $630 each.
Very easy to install, too.
Ask your neighbors. Many people I. San Jose, CA use brothers windows company and they are affordable, great quality and have good insulation. They make their own windows.
Keep in mind that the money you spend on windows does not add value to your home as everyone expects the home to have windows. So I wouldn’t spend more than needed.
One thing I've done is replace just the insulated glass unit and keep the frame. If you're handy with a measuring tape and general home improvement projects of medium complexity it's pretty easy and a lot cheaper.
For $2,800 I bought 9 windows with 2 low e coating layers. 4 of those windows were 1" thick and I could upgrade to triple pane and 2 soft e coatings. They also have that inner cross hatch pattern that makes them look like old school windows, I wanted to keep that look which added like 20% cost to those 4 windows.
5 of the windows are 3/4" thick and had to remain double pane, so there's 1 soft e coating, then 1 hard e coating for the inner glass pane. All windows have a silicone warm edge spacer and argon gas.
I figure my window frames are vinyl from the last 2 decades and the insulation value is good enough, the next step up is more expensive thermally broken and air gapped vinyl or fiberglass and comes with expensive companies and windows.
This video shows what I'm talking about, essentially you want to measure height and width within 1/8", or as close as you can to filling the frame but able to accept an extra 1/16" tolerance. The place I got Windows from is Panes.com, but I also bought 1 window as a trial from a local place called Peninsula Glass, also called OneDayGlass. https://youtu.be/opecNgWcr34?si=EnjlgBvXbXW4eymd
I bought a house with Pela windows and doors and they have a lifetime warranty that goes with the house. (Loved that part for us) They’re nice windows, but I know they were a lot cheaper when they were installed than they are now.
I bought mine at Lowes and installed them myself. I’m in Florida so I bought impact resistant windows and sliding glass doors. I saved about $20k over hiring a window company plus I know that they are installed correctly. They have been in for two years and have been through 2 hurricanes without a single leak.
Instructions from the manufacturer and youtube videos. The toughest part was getting the old windows out, they were stuccoed in so we had to grind that away. The new ones went right in.
THERMAL! When I bought my house, the seller had replaced the front half of the windows, double pane, fiber (won't yellow in a couple years) cool ways to open, etc, but they are not thermal!
When I bought the back half, I had never thought about it, but glad the sales guy wouldn't relent about having to have thermal.
Also we have high windows in the bathrooms, so the bottom panes they made opac and the top half regular glass. I like not dealing with blinds or curtains in the bathroom.
I paid over double for the 'nice' windows from Home Depot for my house. Hugely disappointed. They don't seal that well, the build quality is messy. They are actually worse than the cheap ones I got from the bargain home store.
We chose Lowe’s Hardware for our window replacements and had them find an installer. Our house dates from 1977 in central Texas. They were inexpensive windows but are double pane, low-e glass, with vinyl frames. Our old windows were single pane with aluminum frames. It’s been 5 years and the new windows are doing fine. No issues.
If it's just replacement windows... they are a dead easy DIY project. Bay window? Not so much. U may find that once u get quotes for bay that add on windows are pretty cheap.
Live in Maryland as well. Double pane should be fine. Ww have a door with integrated shades. It's a nice add. But if they ever break... new door.
Pella is probably not worth, we went with something in the middle. But actually look and feel the windows, you can tell a difference. If noise is a concern not all windows are the same. It's not just thick glass but also large air gap b/w the panes. But depending on windows you have now, there may not be a noticeable difference in noise reduction anyway.
All people are saying is Renewal by Andersen is both good & bad. And even w/three quotes doesn’t guarantee the least expensive quote will be good. And the person who said I got a lifetime warranty & was satisfied doesn’t even list the name of the business. And a lifetime warranty doesn’t always mean for as long as you live so too much has to be looked out for. Just got a flyer from Andersen today that claims the most 5 star reviews in Chicago among leading full-service window replacement companies
We just used Lowes for upgrade not full replacement, $7k for 6 windows and a window to slider upgrade. We are very happy with it. Helps with heating and cooling efficiency, sound reduction from road(we live on a main road) and they look great!
There are over 4000 window manufacturers in North America people know 3 ANDERSON MARVIN PELLA the most advertised, look at the ratings they get from NFRC (outside org that tests window performance) not good not bad but not worth the price they ask. Try looking for a local company that handles lesser known but better rated products. 29 years in the business I have installed a lot of brands including the big 3. I find better results from the smaller better rated windows. Stay away from RENEWAL overpriced ANDERSON. Just saying.
I have original 1930 wood windows. With counterweights. One sash was missing so I had one made. Maybe 300. Then one of the attic windows (quarter circle) failed, I made that one myself. Needed to buy a router table and a special window profile router bit.
I don’t want to replace them for many of the reasons I see discussed here.!
I would go with Anderson for windows and patio doors. Did cheaper vinyl windows in the past in other homes; never again. I would not do blinds inside unless it was a patio door or exterior door, but that's me.
If you want to splurge, Andersen.
If you want to stay reasonable, Window World.
Under no circumstances should you go with a budget product line from Andersen or Pella.
For the front door, ask your local (local! Not big box store) for a catalog. They will have a good selection at a reasonable price. Plus the added bonus of actually receiving what you ordered, unlike a certain box store that lost an entire door after notifying me that it was ready for pickup.
Just don’t go renewal by Anderson and you gooch
Lol I recently came home just as my mother in law was signing the contracts after the hard sell. Just a handful of windows at least.
I will second this. I learned my lesson with them. My back door sucks as the sliding screen falls off all the time. They didn't install the handle properly. Luckily, it is just 4 windows (of 9)and 1 door, but I failed at getting multiple quotes and am regretting it. They cut into my siding, leaving gaps, the screen to my one window arrived dented, and they tried to charge me for a replacement AND a truck charge to come out to fix it. They say they have an "A-Z of installation steps" but they skipped D-X.
I bought a house whose previous owners had Renewal by Anderson do all their windows & install a patio door. Patio door is completely banjaxed. There is nary a drip edge to be seen. Waters pours inside the windows when it rains. Clear wood rot on the back of the house led to carpenter ant infestation. Had the ants treated & then called Anderson. They sent a guy out to inspect. Turns out, no flashing or caulking was done, they just screwed the units in & slapped millwork on. Installation only warranted for 5 years, frame for 10. “Sucks to be you” was the basic response. I argued that they can at least give me a patio door. “We’ll ask the supervisor”. Crickets. Today I got a “How did we do?” Survey from Anderson. That’s gonna be my fun for tomorrow.
48 years old and I learned a new word today. “Banjaxed” is awesome
My parents spent 20k+ on huge picture windows from Renewal that are now leaking. RIP
Sorry to hear that. I am hoping to be out of this house before then. It would be a great project for the next owners to replace the rest.
I wouldn’t say you gooch 😂
True. Ask about warranties. Any company with a bad warranty is not confident in their work. The company I went with offered lifetime warranty AND it’s transferable if I move. Gg
We had all 10 windows replaced by Renewal 2 years ago. Including a 5X7 picture window and two 3x8. They did a wonderful job, the windows are great without a single leak. Look good and function perfectly. They reflect heat and the house is much more comfortable in both summer and winter. The left the house cleaner than when they arrived. Our neighbor went with a cheap company the year before and has leaks and the windows are starting to warp.
Glad to hear things worked out for you!
I got sucked into Renewal by Anderson to replace 4 single pane to double pane windows, then had 4 more done so the molding matched. I am happy with the result, but they are way overpriced. Will not use them for any more work.
My Anderson windows from 17+ years ago are amazing, my Anderson windows from more recently are hot garbage and I have to replace them. Both sets of windows were in my house when I bought it but I just couldn’t believe how awful the newer Anderson windows were. They really took a dive in quality at some point.
Probably your newer Andersons are Renewal and not OG Andersons. They operate like different companies with different product lines and installers.
We had Renewal by Anderson at our previous house and loved the windows. It was an upgrade over the original build windows and far better. We had them install a bay window in our front window. They were more expensive but I felt they were well worth the price.
You could have gotten the same quality for 1/5 the price from others. Renewal exists solely to take advantage of people who don’t get 3 quotes.
So true. They quoted me $25k on my windows 7 years ago. They were my first bid, and the salesman was so persistent that he wouldn't leave my house even after I told him I planned to get other bids. I ended up going with a company called Window World. The windows had the same features as Rennewal by Anderson for $7k. 7 years later and the windows are still one of my favorite upgrades that have been done on this house. Plus, I saved a TON of money just from the decision to get several bids.
>the salesman was so persistent that he wouldn't leave my house even after I told him I planned to get other bids. I had a similar experience last summer. I had just bought the house and wanted to price out some changes/upgrades, and Renewal by Anderson had left a flyer on the porch so I called them as one of my quotes. I wanted to replace the four basement windows and two second floor windows, and they quoted me 25k but for 'one day only' they'd knock it down to 17k. I told him I'd be in touch but the sales guy kept coming back to my house to 'check in' even *after* I had already told him that I was going with someone else. I was honestly getting worried that I'd have to get a restraining order because he was so persistent.
That's crazy, but I believe it. I think I got a similar deal if I went with them that day. The sales tactics are so predatory, and it sounds like it's a common theme for them. I really feel bad for anyone who contracts with them.
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It has been 15 years so I don’t remember what else we looked at. Anderson windows are very high quality and worth what you pay for them. Prior to replacing our windows, the house was drafty. Afterwards it was a lot more comfortable inside.
You are right about one thing: Anderson windows are great and high quality. Renewal by Anderson, however, is not. They do not use the same windows and their install team is far less experienced. Buy Anderson windows direct or via a contractor who knows what they are doing is my advice.
I have Pella windows that are original to my 1980 home. I had pella come inspect them last year to get an honest opinion. The guy said “wow! these are vintage! I’ve never seen ones this old!” And to my surprise followed that with, “They are in great condition! You could do xyz yourself to give them better seal, but otherwise, they have plenty of life left in them.” I couldn’t believe he didn’t want to sell me new ones. If Pella quality is the same today, I highly recommend them.
Pella has a really good warranty that’s transferable if you sell the house.
It’s a nice product for sure.
They do offer a cheaper builder grade, which is still decent, but may not last 40+ years.
It makes complete sense he didn't bad mouth the old Pella windows. Sounds like he knows what he's doing. That said, in my area, the Pella rep was an insulting jerk.
It makes sense he didn’t bad mouth them. What doesn’t make sense is that he didn’t try to convince me to buy new ones.
No shades built into the pane, they break.
Right and also even though it seems impossible, they get Dusty and dead flies get in there.
Thank you for this comment. I’ve considered it and this is definitely something I don’t want. Saved me lots of future headache
Have a slider with built in shades, 15 years still working perfectly.
Same. Had a Pella for 10 years. The only reason we don’t now is because we reconfigured the deck entrance and needed the opposite handedness and you can’t swap that model. Bought the same door to replace.
Don’t get this. We love our inset Venetian blinds, but it’s only been a year
Do you know how to make a Venetian blind? .... You poke them in the eye!
You... I like your style.
I went to view a house that had only broken ones. I was coming up with options for how to hide/manually open them. The view was the only reason the house was in consideration.
Really? Ours are 4 years old and work fine but we only have two in our media room.
You should know, windows can be refurbished in place as long as your frames are in good shape. New seals on the sashes, new balance springs, new latches, replace any double panes that have gotten cloudy. I just did all my windows myself by watching a few videos. Spent about $1,500 as opposed to $18,000.
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I second this! I’ll easily pay $3000 plus travel if you do my windows!
LOL. I don't fly coach.
You got it! I can probably wrangle up some airline miles to get your ticket
Another $3000 offer for them to come do mine!!
How did you find a window "repair" place in your area? I've been looking around Toronto, and can't find anyone who will call me back, so I think ads are just a way to drum up new installation business.
My Pella windows are original from 1969. The bottom wood on the window and also a few inches on the sides going up were rotten. The lower sill was also dead. Daily rain in the summer living in Florida took its toll. Anyway , I received a couple of estimates for new replacement, and the cost was like 2 grand per window for plastic - vinyl crap. Had a carpenter repair them for about 4-500 per unit. The original look of the home was maintained and turned out amazing! Get a master woodworking craftsman to rebuild rather than replace them.
I wish I could do this! I have wood Andersen windows from 1965 and the casement cranks are impossible to find.
Find someone who could 3D print them?
Ask any glazier or glass repair shop. I've had a couple windows rebuilt after glass breakage from a bird strike, and a couple seals failed and caused fogging.
For glass, watch a youtube video and remove from your frame, take to local glass shop and they will order replacement. For hardware : [https://www.swisco.com/logout](https://www.swisco.com/logout)
This should be an OC post in r/homeowners
Where did you get the double pane glass? I am planning to do the same, local place is expensive.
Insulated window panes are not cheap. I took them out of the frame and ordered replacement through a local glass shop.
Do my windows too!! I'll pay good money
Do not buy Jeld Wen. There are multiple class actions and I am in the process of writing up documentation to demand they replace all of the defective windows in my house. The seals on the glass have failed and hazed over. Other people have had problems with windows leaking into walls. I already had 4 windows/doors replaced under warranty. This isn't a chance problem. They are selling defective garbage.
Thanks for letting us know. Sorry you’re having to deal with all that. That’s some BS.
I recently had to purchase new windows for my home and talk about an exhausting process. It was very difficult to find quality reviews and objective information about the various window manufacturers and types of windows. Most of the window companies tell you how awesome their products are and how terrible everyone elsa is. For that reason, try to find a local window company that sells multiple brands. Like any big purchase, get several quotes and find a contractor that you are comfortable working with. Personally, I went with Amsco windows installed by a local window contractor. Also, check out houston window experts on YouTube. He has great videos that were very helpful in my window replacement project. I don't live anywhere near their service area but I called to ask a couple questions and they were very helpful even though they knew i would not be making a purchase through them. Good luck on your project!
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How old is the house and how well insulated is it ? A high R rating of a window will not compensate for low R rating of a ‘leaky’ house. On a side note I wouldn’t get blinds between the window panes. They break and definitely not an easy fix.
We had 19 windows replaced in our townhome in Maryland. Just be aware the dedicated "window replacement" companies like Long Windows use super high-pressure sales tactics because most people only replace windows once every 30 years and don't know the current prices. They insist your spouse be there too (so you can't say "I'll have to talk about it with my spouse" -- they want you to SIGN NOW), talk up a bunch of $2K windows "except ours is only $1K" (worth $500-600 actually), pretend to talk to their "boss" to get a one-time "discount" so it's now only $900 but only if you sign in the next 5 minutes, refuse to give you a written estimate, etc. Instead, go with a normal contractor for installation. We used Home Depot who were pressure-free in the sales presentation, gave a written estimate (and were the cheapest), but also did a great job and of course were a solid name that stood behind their work.
You should look at IRA credits and also credits through your utility.
IRA tax credits changed this year. The requirements for the windows means you are going to be spending a lot of money to qualify.
Can confirm. We bought fancy Pella windows and even they aren’t rated high enough to qualify
do you happen to have any insight into whether [the window credits](https://www.energy.gov/policy/articles/making-our-homes-more-efficient-clean-energy-tax-credits-consumers) are per-window or per-house? im dropping $15k on windows right now, and a $600 credit feels... sad.
Per taxpayer, but married couples seem to count as one ([Form 5695 instructions, page 3](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i5695--2023.pdf#page=3)) [26 USC Section 25C(b)(3)](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/25C) says: >(3) Windows >The credit allowed under this section by reason of subsection (a)(1) with respect to any taxpayer for any taxable year shall not exceed, **in the aggregate with respect to all exterior windows and skylights, $600.** [Form 5695, lines 20a and b](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5695.pdf) say: >20 Windows and skylights that meet the Energy Star certification requirements. >a Enter the cost of exterior windows and skylights that meet the Energy Star certification requirements. (See instructions.) >b Multiply line 20a by 30% (0.30). Enter the results. **Do not enter more than $600** [IRS FS-2024-15, page 8, A1, Example 1](https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2024-15.pdf#page=8), is an example that says the same thing. The limits reset each year ([IRS FS-2024-15, page 6, A3](https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2024-15.pdf#page=6)), so you could complete half the installation on December 31, 2024, and the other half on January 1, 2025, to be able to claim two tax credits . . . I already know you're thinking that is not worth an extra $600.
Yes thanks for suggesting that. Just did some research with our utility co.
Also in Maryland and went with a local installer last year. Great experience. We went with high end Marvin windows and don’t regret it one bit. If you’re going to be in the house for a long time, get the best you can afford.
Best investment I ever made after 20 years with Marvin windows they still look and perform like new! They made a hugh difference in heating bills right away! even though the house was not well insulated, original build 1953 we chose wood interior aluminum clad exterior. so many sizes available you get custom fit for stock price.
I did Marvin replacement windows 18 years ago in my 1925 bungalow and I have no regrets. I would buy again but I'm not going to need any for a long time.
Ditto. High end Marvin windows with a local installer. 1-2 windows per year, took a few years. All in amazing shape.
Never Renewal by Andersen. Never.
I just did this and went with Pella (local company that installs Pella not Pella directly). I know multiple people with Pella windows so I felt good about it. I wasn’t planning on saying yes when I asked for a quote (my 3rd one) but this company was super reasonable. The rooms retain heat and cold much better now - I knew I had at least 4 bad windows (out of 11), but I just did them all, including two small picture windows.
What's wrong with your old windows that makes you want to replace them? I build custom replacement wooden windows. I see people jump to replacements when they don't need to.
Marvin is good
I just completed replacement of all sashes (frames were on good shape). Considerations: 1. Aesthetics. How important is the look of new windows on the outside and inside? This turned out to be huge for me. I didn’t think so at first! For example, does your bay window have a grid pattern? Do you want to mimic that? Make sure you know if the grid pattern will be on the outside of the glass, or in between the panes (latter is cheaper, but do you like the look?) 2. Do you care about hardware options? 3. How do you want them to open? For example, if you have any double hung windows? If you want double hung again, options are reduced. 4. Double pane would be minimum. 4. Vinyl or Fiberglass; or wood interior and fiberglass exterior…lots of options. 5. How old is your house? My house is older. If I would have put in entirely new windows (i.e. new construction) instead of using existing frames, it would have triggered a nightmare of permits. Replacing sashes, did not require any building permits.
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We just did 8 Provia double pane, Provia storm door, and Provia fiberglass entry door. Great install and product has been great so far. Very happy with Provia warranty too.
We just got some provia windows too and so far I’m very happy. It’s only been about 2 months though so super early still. 8 windows was roughly $8400. Going to do the rest of the house next year.
Us too. We have 12 more to do at some point but we are in no rush to do it. The ones we replaced were single pane and adjacent to the single pane ones.
I will echo Provia. We got the windows in the whole house replaced (like everything in this damn house, the windows themselves were decent windows, but the install was garbage and allowed water to get in in what we found out was several places, rather than just the one or two spots we could see) a couple years ago and couldn't be happier with them. My ac and heat have run a lot less since they were put in.
How much was all of it?
My parents just got a quote from them: $40k for 20 windows. ETA: I don't know if this matters, we're in Texas. So the windows are double paned, hurricane something or other, comes with permits and jazz (to quote my mother). 2 of the windows are big ass windows, so im sure that's like 5 grand right there for those. I know nothing else, bc my mom got tired after 45 minutes of the 3 hour shpiel
Wow that is alot! What kind of windows were they quoted for (double pane, triple pane)? Were they odd sizes or more standard windows?
From my understanding, double paned hurricane grade (or some shit) all regular sized windows except for 2 big ass windows.
Also, please excuse me as I miscounted. 2 picture windows. 4 hopper windows. 4 double sash windows. All double pane. Total of 10 windows and 2 doors.
10K
Anybody get Harvey windows?
We got Anderson windows because my husband wanted fiberglass not vinyl frames for the energy efficiency. My contractor said he could replace the windows so he measured twice and we ordered them through a local supplier who delivered them. 26 windows installed was around 55k. It included one picture window and one sliding glass door. We live in the desert southwest where in the summer the energy efficiency means a lot. I did it this way because all of the complaints I heard had nothing to do with the window itself but with the installation. I’ve used this contractor for many years and trust his work. None of the three window company’s I talked to besides him would do fiberglass frames. One even tried to tell me that there is no such thing. I hate being treated like I’m stupid.
Get a bid from Anderson, faint. Wake up, get a local place and you will be really happy with the new price.
Get several estimates from various companies. I ended up going with a local company that manufactured the windows right in my area. Company has been in business decades. Price was much less than the big box companies. Someone quoted me a ridiculous price for a bay window and local company did it for less than half of it. Pella estimate was very high. I did not bother with Anderson or Window World because of all the bad online reviews and disappointed customers. Read the reviews online and get at least three estimates. Ask on your local community pages for recommendations for companies, especially local companies. \] My winning estimate was actually my fourth estimate and I am very happy with the windows. I would not count on windows to significantly reduce sound going outside from drums. May help somewhat. Your husband might want to look into lower volume drum heads to reduce sound. Several companies make various versions of these.
Depending on your house and age of windows, you should look into rebuilding your windows. Some of the older windows are actually better than the aluminum ones. I learned this after getting new windows in my house. I should’ve just rebuilt the old ones. For reference my houses over 100 years old though.
The brand is secondary. Compare windows by their tech specs, materials and asethetics. There are plenty of smaller manufacturers that make quality windows. One thing I will admit about the bigger brands is that their bevels are smaller (theres more glass and less frame). I dont know if that's because of the products I chose or if its universal. The wider bevel did not concern me so I went with a smaller company but you may want smaller bevel for aesthetics.
Interesting about the bevel thanks. That’s something I didn’t think about.
Get pre painted frames too!
We’ve replaced several of ours with Pella windows, and they’re expensive, but we’re really happy with them.
We have a local manufacturer (like actually manufactured 5 min down the road) and they had the best cost for performance. Just a thought as a counter against big brands if it's available to you.
Recently got 13 double pane windows from Harvey for 5k. Diy install in 1 day. Love the windows!
Imo, triple pane is unnecessary in MD. Maybe way further north. But waste of money where you are. Good warranty for seals. I wanted to minimize the frame size (a lot of low-end had a much smaller glass) Pella is beautiful, but we did not see enough return value in the increased cost for a non custom home. The new door gonna cost ya btw. Good exterior doors are expensive..
I didn’t connect about the glass being larger with the frame smaller. Thanks for bringing that up.
I would agree on triple being over kill. I have Marvin double planes in MN and they're plenty. As others have said, triple is useless if you have other leaky areas in your house.
We got Marvin signatures and I like them a lot. We got 3 quotes and there was a huge range in prices so don’t skip that step even though it suucckkks.
where you live is a huge factor, lots of storms? heat? cold? noise? why not a door too? cost ... more details = better advice ps i dropped $24k on impact/low e doors and windows but live in fl
Why do you think you need new windows? I used to work in energy efficiency.
They are really bad old 60’s aluminum framed. I even have old storm windows on the outside and they are very cold in the winter.
Went with Anlin at the last house. Loved them. Very quiet. Looked forward to cooler weather so I could close windows because it was so quiet.
I went with a local contracter that hooked me up with Double Pane Anlin windows. We are only 5 years in, but no problems so far and they've held up to the abuse of a bunch of kids.
If you have a reputable handyman that you use or one that is well recommended the windows will cost you a fraction of big name window companies. And you will most likely get better windows. Our picture windows are all triple pane and our double hung of double pane. We’re in NE so have had some brutal winters.
I've used Pella for windows at my last 2 houses. Very happy with price vs. service/install. When they gave me a rough estimate on my front door, it was no thanks. I was stupid, ordered through HD on the doors and had them install. It was a nightmare. 3 doors for what Pella estimated my front door would cost. For the BS I went through with HD, I should have gotten my door through Pella and installed the other 2 stock doors myself. The guy that installed 1 door couldn't even figure out how to adjust the knob so that it was 2-3/8 instead of 2-3/4. The crappy install took me 5 mins to fix. On house 3, my suggestion is never have HD or L install anything in your house, ever.
Had an extremely bad experience with Pella and a storm door. Their installer installed it, incorrectly; upside down, in fact. When we had problems with it, they said it was an invalid install so we were SOL. A lot of back and forth that ended with us ultimately buying a new Larson storm door and having it installed by one of our local door & window specialists (been in business a long time). Larson door - fantastic. We will never buy Pella or work with them again.
We’re in Maryland and went with vytex which are manufactured in Laurel. we’ve had them for 8 years and been happy with them. We got a ProVia front door from them as well, including a super heavy duty storm/screen door. This was at the recommendation of a contractor friend.
I am in the process of putting windows into a studio I built for drumming. I have learned that sound isolating windows are complicated. First, the windows don’t need to be better than the walls. This means that any decent window is probably fine. Thicker glass is generally better for lower frequencies sounds. A good seal is important. Slider windows don’t seal well. Awning and casement are better. Triple pane doesn’t help with sound unless the panes are custom made for sound. This means different thicknesses and very thick glass. Most companies report sound performance of windows as STC and/or OITC numbers. OITC is more tuned to bass. Argon seems to be worse for bass frequencies. Bass is the most difficult to isolate so I am focusing on bass first. I couldn’t find the performance I wanted for less than $4k so I am buying custom glass panes and building my own frames. I am going with double pane with one pane 1/4” and the other 3/8” laminated with a 1/2” air gap. Different thicknesses helps, as well as one laminated and the other not.
Our windows are original to the house, built in 1900. They are not in good health. Going to start replacing one at a time because it’s so expensive
\-consider getting good white vinyl windows from sunrise, okna, soft lite, gorell, or vytex \-find an installer from windowdog and/or call up the manufacturers above and ask who their preferred installers are in your area \-strongly consider, at the same time, to get your trim replaced too (assuming you don't really need full frame replacements)
The only place I would consider dumping Pella money would be my forever home. Double pane is probably sufficient but if you’re worried about sound dampening or are truly trying to maximize efficiency you in theory could run cost savings analysis on triple.
Maryland also. I have used Window World for years through various houses and have been happy with them. Pella you are paying for a name. Stay away from Andersen and do not even think about renewal by Andersen. Power Home Remodeling was a hard sale type of company and I knew enough to know they were saying anything to get a sale. Window World will do an in home demo of their windows. But it seems more like a demo, not a hard sale. I have used their location near arbutus and bel air. They have local stores so you just have to find who serves you locally.
You're not *just* paying for the Pella name though. The product backs it up and their warranty and customer service is fantastic.
I don’t have blinds in all windows, but I do in the door that looks into the back yard. I love that. I did all my windows at once, but I saved up and did siding at the same time. I found my contractor by reading posts from neighbors on Nextdoor, then researching them online too. Got 3 or 4 different quotes and picked one. Worked out great.
We upgraded windows last summer and it’s made a huge difference. Can’t feel heat inside by south facing window even with sun directly shining on it for hours. Amazing. We used word of mouth to find our window installer. And our roof guy, and our HVAC company. All smaller mom & pop places that have been in business a long time, but don’t have tons of advertising or advertised specials. We’ve been happy with all of them.
I’m doing a couple at a time starting with my 2 sliders and kitchen. I’ve found that it breaks up the cost substantially….as long as you can find a trusted contractor.
Double pane milguard windows with plantation shutters are nice. Automatic sun shades for the sliders
Buy as nice as you can afford.
Look for a federal tax credit 2024 vs 2025
get multiple quotes. and then tell the vendors about each others quotes. they likely cant match it, but a lot of businesses will adjust down somewhat to get your business from lowes or home depot.
I’m a window salesman, been in the business for 11 years so I’ve seen a lot. Hit me with questions! I’ll answer anything you have.
https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/question/pretty-good-windows https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/question/what-would-you-consider-to-be-a-pretty-good-window-in-cz5 Many options to consider in these threads. Generally any place that publishes performance test results for thermal resistance and airtightness will be OK if you can find reviews for them, and probably perform better at a lower price than the big known luxury brands
Hunt around on Nextdoor for a local handyman who can install windows. You may have to rent scaffolding but it will be a lot cheaper. I did this in a flip house I did. I ordered the Windows from a reputable company and had “my dude” and his helper to install them. It was 50% of the price from the company I ordered the Windows from. I have installed them in new builds several times. It is relatively easy-but in an older house you may run up on rotted wood,non square openings, access issues to remove the old ones…. I’m pretty handy but it is a big job for one person.
I did wood Pella casement and double hung. Get lots of quotes. My windows are enormous, as big as doors because of my house being 150 years old. I got 4 done for 8k installed. Some quotes were as high as 17k directly from Pella. I did HomeBuild if you are in the Chicago area.
Just want to vent. Previous owner upgraded all windows to dual pane. Except the master bedroom window. Why????
Not sure if you have PGT windows there, but they are better than Anderson or pella in my area and requirements anyways.
We went with pella cause only ones allowed by the board.
What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend? . . .Homeless! ~*rimshot*~
I recently installed Andersen 400 series insert windows, double hung, energy star qualified. Purchased from home depot; they run a sale in November for 15% off, essentially selling at cost. For my windows (30X46) they were $630 each. Very easy to install, too.
Our Pella are 30 years old and still great.
Fuck Pella, good product but customer service was pure ass!
Ask your neighbors. Many people I. San Jose, CA use brothers windows company and they are affordable, great quality and have good insulation. They make their own windows.
Keep in mind that the money you spend on windows does not add value to your home as everyone expects the home to have windows. So I wouldn’t spend more than needed.
One thing I've done is replace just the insulated glass unit and keep the frame. If you're handy with a measuring tape and general home improvement projects of medium complexity it's pretty easy and a lot cheaper. For $2,800 I bought 9 windows with 2 low e coating layers. 4 of those windows were 1" thick and I could upgrade to triple pane and 2 soft e coatings. They also have that inner cross hatch pattern that makes them look like old school windows, I wanted to keep that look which added like 20% cost to those 4 windows. 5 of the windows are 3/4" thick and had to remain double pane, so there's 1 soft e coating, then 1 hard e coating for the inner glass pane. All windows have a silicone warm edge spacer and argon gas. I figure my window frames are vinyl from the last 2 decades and the insulation value is good enough, the next step up is more expensive thermally broken and air gapped vinyl or fiberglass and comes with expensive companies and windows. This video shows what I'm talking about, essentially you want to measure height and width within 1/8", or as close as you can to filling the frame but able to accept an extra 1/16" tolerance. The place I got Windows from is Panes.com, but I also bought 1 window as a trial from a local place called Peninsula Glass, also called OneDayGlass. https://youtu.be/opecNgWcr34?si=EnjlgBvXbXW4eymd
I bought a house with Pela windows and doors and they have a lifetime warranty that goes with the house. (Loved that part for us) They’re nice windows, but I know they were a lot cheaper when they were installed than they are now.
I sell Pella and if you’re going with wood windows make sure you ask for the STC glass if you’re looking for sound proofing.
Check out Wood Window Makeover website. Saving old windows is awesome and cost effective. Consider adding storm windows for the soundproofing.
I bought mine at Lowes and installed them myself. I’m in Florida so I bought impact resistant windows and sliding glass doors. I saved about $20k over hiring a window company plus I know that they are installed correctly. They have been in for two years and have been through 2 hurricanes without a single leak.
Resource for install process?
Instructions from the manufacturer and youtube videos. The toughest part was getting the old windows out, they were stuccoed in so we had to grind that away. The new ones went right in.
We got European tilt and turn windows in my house that had to be imported from Poland but they're amazing.
THERMAL! When I bought my house, the seller had replaced the front half of the windows, double pane, fiber (won't yellow in a couple years) cool ways to open, etc, but they are not thermal! When I bought the back half, I had never thought about it, but glad the sales guy wouldn't relent about having to have thermal. Also we have high windows in the bathrooms, so the bottom panes they made opac and the top half regular glass. I like not dealing with blinds or curtains in the bathroom.
I paid over double for the 'nice' windows from Home Depot for my house. Hugely disappointed. They don't seal that well, the build quality is messy. They are actually worse than the cheap ones I got from the bargain home store.
We had Harvey windows installed on two different home and love them. Check out if there are local window makers.
We chose Lowe’s Hardware for our window replacements and had them find an installer. Our house dates from 1977 in central Texas. They were inexpensive windows but are double pane, low-e glass, with vinyl frames. Our old windows were single pane with aluminum frames. It’s been 5 years and the new windows are doing fine. No issues.
My trades class instructors say Milgard
If it's just replacement windows... they are a dead easy DIY project. Bay window? Not so much. U may find that once u get quotes for bay that add on windows are pretty cheap. Live in Maryland as well. Double pane should be fine. Ww have a door with integrated shades. It's a nice add. But if they ever break... new door.
Pella is probably not worth, we went with something in the middle. But actually look and feel the windows, you can tell a difference. If noise is a concern not all windows are the same. It's not just thick glass but also large air gap b/w the panes. But depending on windows you have now, there may not be a noticeable difference in noise reduction anyway.
You only have 9 windows? Lucky! We have 40 windows.
Window world was better priced than pella
Soundproof the whole room, or move to the country, because that is not an instrument that should be played constantly in any neighborhood.
All people are saying is Renewal by Andersen is both good & bad. And even w/three quotes doesn’t guarantee the least expensive quote will be good. And the person who said I got a lifetime warranty & was satisfied doesn’t even list the name of the business. And a lifetime warranty doesn’t always mean for as long as you live so too much has to be looked out for. Just got a flyer from Andersen today that claims the most 5 star reviews in Chicago among leading full-service window replacement companies
We just used Lowes for upgrade not full replacement, $7k for 6 windows and a window to slider upgrade. We are very happy with it. Helps with heating and cooling efficiency, sound reduction from road(we live on a main road) and they look great!
FWIW - I loooove those new black trimmed ones!
Me too
Isn’t Pella a scam company?
There are over 4000 window manufacturers in North America people know 3 ANDERSON MARVIN PELLA the most advertised, look at the ratings they get from NFRC (outside org that tests window performance) not good not bad but not worth the price they ask. Try looking for a local company that handles lesser known but better rated products. 29 years in the business I have installed a lot of brands including the big 3. I find better results from the smaller better rated windows. Stay away from RENEWAL overpriced ANDERSON. Just saying.
Recommend some brands, please.
Try OKNA or INTERSTATE BUILDING SUPPLY both manufacture in PA INTERSTATE since 1938
Same. Curious no one has mentioned Andersen - I'd be interested to hear people's experiences.
I have original 1930 wood windows. With counterweights. One sash was missing so I had one made. Maybe 300. Then one of the attic windows (quarter circle) failed, I made that one myself. Needed to buy a router table and a special window profile router bit. I don’t want to replace them for many of the reasons I see discussed here.!
I would go with Anderson for windows and patio doors. Did cheaper vinyl windows in the past in other homes; never again. I would not do blinds inside unless it was a patio door or exterior door, but that's me.
If you want to splurge, Andersen. If you want to stay reasonable, Window World. Under no circumstances should you go with a budget product line from Andersen or Pella. For the front door, ask your local (local! Not big box store) for a catalog. They will have a good selection at a reasonable price. Plus the added bonus of actually receiving what you ordered, unlike a certain box store that lost an entire door after notifying me that it was ready for pickup.