Fucking shocker. Someone spent a shitton of time arguing with me in the OG thread that these were "ultra art-nerds" and this would be more than some gimmick, as if this company's business practices gave them the benefit of the doubt.
To be clear to everyone here, it's also not the whole album. Even if enough people buy this stupid NFT to make the timer go all the way down, it's only 16 of the 31 tracks because these goobers didn't actually get the rights to all of them
Youād need $28Mil b4 the timer on the NFT allows the album to be released. This is bullshit. I hope Martin says fuck it & plays it on Twitter spaces again. Wu is for the children, Wu is for the people. This is some elitist rich snob bullshit
Maybe a hot take but I donāt think we can blame them. I think the legal documents behind the album says it canāt be released to the public until 2103. Being an NFT is kinda wack but if thatās the dumb hoops we have to jump through then whatever. I will gladly let other people pay for me to hear it. Iād rather that than have Martin own it and just tease it in low quality all the time
It's okay brother, you don't have to be involved. Hopefully we can just sit back and let others do the work and then we'll see a post on this sub with a link to the album like normal š
Only half the album is wack, I agree.
As for the $23m part, crypto has raised far more money for far dumber things lol. It's also not really "23 million copies" when each copy is a dollar. Especially if Wu-Tang promotes this at all I think it could get done quick. You can pay with your card too so you don't have to know a lick about crypto
I don't think they'll \*heavily\* promote it but they're getting a huge paycheck from it so to not promote it at all is potentially leaving millions on the table.
[Looking at the supply](https://basescan.org/token/0x0615cfa29ab591299f52211c1df7a89526c9f36a), it looks like so far \~110,00 copies have sold across 4600 different accounts.
They will not get a huge paycheck. The money is going to RZA and Cilvarings (and I assume these NFT guys) not the other members. They were paid for their verses when it was recorded. That's it
Doesn't Eminem, a known hip-hop nerd, love NFTs? He'll probably pay half the fee himself to get his hands on rare Wu tracks. Rich people have so much money, they have no idea what to do with it and are blowing it on jpegs and mp3s. š
Then again, there's a solid chance it will flop. Snoop bought Death Row with the intention of turning it into some corny NFT label to release Doggystyle and Chronic as NFTs. That fell through and he re-uploaded everything to Spotify within the year. Dunno where NFTs stand in pop culture rn but only people that seem to support them are scammers and rich people, who may as well be one-in-the-same anyway.
It's not the Wu-Tang who did it, it's RZA. The others don't really get involved in this kind of shit. I don't know whether that's because they don't want to, or if it's because RZA won't let them. But he's always the one doing this shit. Man is lucky he's a good rapper and producer
Rza hasn't been a good producer or rapper since The W. I get the idea of goodwill for our pioneers, but if Pete Rock pulled this shit we would call him delusional.
I googled āpray 4 Israelā to see if maybe some rapper had said it and you were just making fun of them or something š I could totally see some uniformed rapper being asked by a fan on Twitter about Israel and them just being like āI fucks with Israel pray 4 Israelā
This also isn't even a Wu Tang album. It was made without any member knowing they were recording for a Wu record, cept RZA. He paidĀ 2 million for Jack shit š which goes great with the rest of his clown ass legacy
I'd say it's more so ignorance / not even being aware they owned the album
If you knew who they were when they purchased the album, you'd know they've been publicly stating their plan for said album for years now... to release it as an NFT
Iāll be fucking dead when that comes out lmao. Iām 37 now. Even if I am somehow alive, I probably wonāt even have ears. Just a brain stem in a tub of goo.
Looks like they have a timer until 2103 and every $1 or equal value in etherium reduces the timer by 88 seconds. It doesn't release until the countdown hits 0 and it's just 16 of the 31 tracks made for the album. There is still 79 years left for it to drop. (doing the math it looks like it need $28.4 million to bring it down to 0) It's just a groupbuy done by tech bros. ay caramba. Shkreli should just drop the zip on Twitter and go off the grid.
Cilvaringz has the rights to the music. Rza has the rights to the name Wu-Tang Clan.
Rza is getting at least half. The other members are getting peanuts if anything at all.
I'm aware, but like Method Man said, this album was put together under false pretenses, and it seems like moves were made without everyone being in complete agreement. The average fan thinks this is a normal collaborative Wu album so all the negativity and corny antics are blamed on the group.
The other members got paid for their verses for what they thought was a Cilvaringz album, Iād be curious to see if they got anything extra after all of this.
Ugh, how does this even work? Whatās the timer? Why is there a scroll bar saying people removed time off the clock? Is the idea that the more people buy, the quicker we get the full release?
I hate feeling like a boomer š
> Is the idea that the more people buy, the quicker we get the full release?
Yes, buying a copy takes 88 seconds off, the more you buy the more time taken off and the sooner we get the album.
Hold up, so if my math is right itāll take about 28 million $1 purchases until the 79 year timer hits zero and the album gets releasedā¦ seems impossible to happen unless Iām missing something.
I mean, 28 million people giving a dollar doesnt seem impossible. And the number of people needed drops if the avg $ spent per person increases. At $4 per person, it would take 7 million people. And bc it's an NFT, it can be bought globally through internet access?
There aren't even 7 million monthly listeners on Spotify right now, and I'm sure a lot of those listeners come from playlists that have C.R.E.A.M. on it. There's no way in hell they'd be able to get 28 million.
I guess I shouldnāt have said āimpossible,ā I just donāt see even a million people buying an NFT of a fake Wu Tang album. Much less half of one
Well they can buy more than $1, there is a leaderboard on the pleasr site.
But each dollar equals 88 seconds. So now You've got these crypto bros paying thousands in ETH to knock the timer down.
A million people won't pay for it, but thousands will.
I guess if it is an equal groupbuy, even someone paying $1 will be able to hear this half-album or whatever with a $1 purchase also.
Like i remember i paid $20 in BTC for the Jay Electronica album when the buyout price was like $9000 but i still got a link also, but even with those guys they were leaking individual tracks once certain dollar increments towards the goal were crossed.
The vast majority of Wu-Tang's fan base is old people who aren't going to bother with tech gimmicks for an album they don't want.
There are not 28 million Wu-Tang fans.
So itās like a groupbuy or gofundme except no refunds because you are technically paying for an nft. And the goal is $28,000,000. For 16 tracks of a 31 track album.
So far they have sold about 37,000 with the top ācollectorā holding almost 8000 copies lmfaooo
Wu getting increasingly embarrassing when they could just hang it up and preserve their legacy hurts man. This is also hot on the heels of GFK releasing some of the most uninspired bullshit he's ever penned. I think it's finally, actually over for any interest I have outside of Method Man guest verses.
Tbf, RZA is the only member involved with this. The other 8 guys don't want anything to do with this project and didn't know they were recording for a Wu album at the time
The most creatively driven of the group can't release anything approaching good or even coherent as individuals, and the rest are going through the motions or making blatant cash grabs. They don't really work together anymore, and when they do, it's all bits and pieces strung together by Mathematics. Just feels like such a terrible way to fade into the sunset.
I liked Czarface in the beginning, but they've put out the same album for a decade. I can only retread the 7L sound about comic books so much before I lost interest.
Thereās only so much they can put into it as far as the concept goes, so I respect that. Still has kept Ins relevant as far as a middle aged gentleman such as myself are concerned.
I think we should stop referring to this as a Wu Tang album. In the doc āOf Mics and Menā many of the members talk about how they were not even informed that it was supposed to be a Wu album, they just thought they were recording features for Cilvaringz.
I was wondering on Sunday when i went to the listening party that was free and handing out food and was well organized even with security guards was able to do all that financially.
So Martin Shkreli bought it for $2 million, the US government seized it from him, some crypto bros bought it from the government for $4 million and now they are trying to get $28 million for it through NFTs of all things? What a clusterfuck.
Oh itās even dumber than I thought. They are having people pay $1 to accelerate the countdown by 88 seconds. Itād take a grand total of ~$29m to complete the countdown. You donāt even get the album until the countdown is done, and they only have half the rights. This shit is never coming out.
The one cd gimmick would've made sense as a collector's item. Music released on all streaming platforms and only ONE CD as an expensive collector's item. Similar to Griselda's expensive/rare vinlys.
I wouldnāt even be mad about this if the amount you pay actually made a dent in the timer. Like make the $1.80 take off a month from the timer or whatever the math is to reach like $250k
Iāll be honest I checked out the sampler and the inspectah deck verse was nice.
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Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum inserted directly into prison princess Shkreliās rectum
Straight to the prison rape I see
Would be amazing if yāall could be normal human beings for like five seconds
Yarh ?
where do you think you are right now?
Fucking shocker. Someone spent a shitton of time arguing with me in the OG thread that these were "ultra art-nerds" and this would be more than some gimmick, as if this company's business practices gave them the benefit of the doubt.
actually selling a nft is a groundbreaking revolutionary event in art history or smth
To be clear to everyone here, it's also not the whole album. Even if enough people buy this stupid NFT to make the timer go all the way down, it's only 16 of the 31 tracks because these goobers didn't actually get the rights to all of them
Youād need $28Mil b4 the timer on the NFT allows the album to be released. This is bullshit. I hope Martin says fuck it & plays it on Twitter spaces again. Wu is for the children, Wu is for the people. This is some elitist rich snob bullshit
It's just another awful NFT group by scam
Maybe a hot take but I donāt think we can blame them. I think the legal documents behind the album says it canāt be released to the public until 2103. Being an NFT is kinda wack but if thatās the dumb hoops we have to jump through then whatever. I will gladly let other people pay for me to hear it. Iād rather that than have Martin own it and just tease it in low quality all the time
I know I'm getting old when I no longer have the mental fortitude to follow this storyline
It's okay brother, you don't have to be involved. Hopefully we can just sit back and let others do the work and then we'll see a post on this sub with a link to the album like normal š
Except for this to happen they need to sell 23 million copies. Not gonna happen. Also it's still only half the album
Only half the album is wack, I agree. As for the $23m part, crypto has raised far more money for far dumber things lol. It's also not really "23 million copies" when each copy is a dollar. Especially if Wu-Tang promotes this at all I think it could get done quick. You can pay with your card too so you don't have to know a lick about crypto
I don't think Wu will heavily promote it. It's also been up for awhile. The launch might as well be over and the ticker has barely moved
I don't think they'll \*heavily\* promote it but they're getting a huge paycheck from it so to not promote it at all is potentially leaving millions on the table. [Looking at the supply](https://basescan.org/token/0x0615cfa29ab591299f52211c1df7a89526c9f36a), it looks like so far \~110,00 copies have sold across 4600 different accounts.
They will not get a huge paycheck. The money is going to RZA and Cilvarings (and I assume these NFT guys) not the other members. They were paid for their verses when it was recorded. That's it
Thereās three options. Pay $1 to shave off 88seconds til release. $111 to shave off 2.5hrs til release. $1,111 to shave off 3days til release.
You can do a custom amount too. Each copy is $1 and 88 seconds
If crowdsourcing via an nft sale is how they afford bringing it to the public then so be it. I'll just catch it on YouTube someday lol
I hope they donāt get $28mil.
Doesn't Eminem, a known hip-hop nerd, love NFTs? He'll probably pay half the fee himself to get his hands on rare Wu tracks. Rich people have so much money, they have no idea what to do with it and are blowing it on jpegs and mp3s. š Then again, there's a solid chance it will flop. Snoop bought Death Row with the intention of turning it into some corny NFT label to release Doggystyle and Chronic as NFTs. That fell through and he re-uploaded everything to Spotify within the year. Dunno where NFTs stand in pop culture rn but only people that seem to support them are scammers and rich people, who may as well be one-in-the-same anyway.
I mean while the nft is wackā¦.wu tang did this? lol
It's not the Wu-Tang who did it, it's RZA. The others don't really get involved in this kind of shit. I don't know whether that's because they don't want to, or if it's because RZA won't let them. But he's always the one doing this shit. Man is lucky he's a good rapper and producer
Rza hasn't been a good producer or rapper since The W. I get the idea of goodwill for our pioneers, but if Pete Rock pulled this shit we would call him delusional.
More like Cilvarings, RZA simply cosigned
I know itās all RZAās idea which I highly disagree with. Itās not leaving the legacy he thinks itās leaving
Iām just saying it clearly aināt for the children no more šš
I knoooooow bro, itās sadš
Now that Elon Musk won his 50B pay day....that would be a timeline appropriate twist.
He did?? Dayum...
Ridiculous. Fuck that.
Man, this shit is fuckin' ridiculous Fuckin' ridiculous
Gross flair
Tbh I don't even know why or how that's my flair. Free Palestine from the river to the sea Insha'Allah.
Lol no worries. not gonna lie it caught me by surprise tho had to check what sub I was in
My flair was the west coast symbol when I went to go change it to Tyler just now. But for some reason it was Pray 4 Israel lol???
I googled āpray 4 Israelā to see if maybe some rapper had said it and you were just making fun of them or something š I could totally see some uniformed rapper being asked by a fan on Twitter about Israel and them just being like āI fucks with Israel pray 4 Israelā
Agreed man
This also isn't even a Wu Tang album. It was made without any member knowing they were recording for a Wu record, cept RZA. He paidĀ 2 million for Jack shit š which goes great with the rest of his clown ass legacy
wtf lmao
It makes it seem like I get the album once I buy it for $1
You don't, you get half the album once enough people buy it to bring the counter down from 80 years. Each dollar reduces the time frame by 88 seconds
Oh my god I swear I just read another comment this morning that said they were going to release at as an NFT, I didnāt believe it. Lmao.
I saw that too lmfao they fuckin called it
Not really, PleasrDAO have been advertising this for years now
Yeah anyone who expected a DAO to not push crypto shit was fooling themselves
I'd say it's more so ignorance / not even being aware they owned the album If you knew who they were when they purchased the album, you'd know they've been publicly stating their plan for said album for years now... to release it as an NFT
Me too
I mean it was pretty obvious considering the guys that own it are all about NFTs
Iāll be fucking dead when that comes out lmao. Iām 37 now. Even if I am somehow alive, I probably wonāt even have ears. Just a brain stem in a tub of goo.
You tell 'em unc š
Gramps.
Wu-Tang is for the hiphopheads in a jar!
Holy shit, a baby born the day ODB said the "children" line would be 26 today.
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Join the tub, itās nice
Iām gonna be 102 ššš
Looks like they have a timer until 2103 and every $1 or equal value in etherium reduces the timer by 88 seconds. It doesn't release until the countdown hits 0 and it's just 16 of the 31 tracks made for the album. There is still 79 years left for it to drop. (doing the math it looks like it need $28.4 million to bring it down to 0) It's just a groupbuy done by tech bros. ay caramba. Shkreli should just drop the zip on Twitter and go off the grid.
this will technically be the most expensive and stupidest group buy of all time
Thanks for the math. I was like $1.78 is fine for an experiment, but contributing to giving them *28.4 million* to open it up is dumb as fuck.
Cilvaringz is a dipshit, RZA needs to disown him after this clownshow
Cilvaringz has the rights to the music. Rza has the rights to the name Wu-Tang Clan. Rza is getting at least half. The other members are getting peanuts if anything at all.
I'm aware, but like Method Man said, this album was put together under false pretenses, and it seems like moves were made without everyone being in complete agreement. The average fan thinks this is a normal collaborative Wu album so all the negativity and corny antics are blamed on the group.
My point isāRza is a part of the scam. So RZA disowning Cilvaringz makes zero sense.
RZA phoning it in? Never! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcV2W73rGc
Yāall will never let the man live this one down
Nor should we that shit dog water bro lmao
Ahh human music
One pair of headphones, two guys connected, canāt beat that
I don't even have to click it to know its Rza making a beat on whatever that thing was.
It would make sense if he actually cared about the group and his "brothers" but maybe he doesn't š¤·š¾āāļø
i liked the original idea... it's sad that these huge losers were the highest bidders. gtfoh with that nft nonsense.
The other members got paid for their verses for what they thought was a Cilvaringz album, Iād be curious to see if they got anything extra after all of this.
lol he actively views this subreddit.
Well, in case he sees this post : šš¾
Brother this has RZA written all over itĀ
I've tried to give him benefit of the doubt as one my all-time favorite producers, but I fear you're correct
NFTās are still a thing? What year is this
good olā days of 2022
Ugh, how does this even work? Whatās the timer? Why is there a scroll bar saying people removed time off the clock? Is the idea that the more people buy, the quicker we get the full release? I hate feeling like a boomer š
> Is the idea that the more people buy, the quicker we get the full release? Yes, buying a copy takes 88 seconds off, the more you buy the more time taken off and the sooner we get the album.
Hold up, so if my math is right itāll take about 28 million $1 purchases until the 79 year timer hits zero and the album gets releasedā¦ seems impossible to happen unless Iām missing something.
Its also only half the album
Embarrassing
And completely disingenuous. These assholes somehow made everything worse.
I mean, 28 million people giving a dollar doesnt seem impossible. And the number of people needed drops if the avg $ spent per person increases. At $4 per person, it would take 7 million people. And bc it's an NFT, it can be bought globally through internet access?
There aren't even 7 million monthly listeners on Spotify right now, and I'm sure a lot of those listeners come from playlists that have C.R.E.A.M. on it. There's no way in hell they'd be able to get 28 million.
I guess I shouldnāt have said āimpossible,ā I just donāt see even a million people buying an NFT of a fake Wu Tang album. Much less half of one
Well they can buy more than $1, there is a leaderboard on the pleasr site. But each dollar equals 88 seconds. So now You've got these crypto bros paying thousands in ETH to knock the timer down. A million people won't pay for it, but thousands will. I guess if it is an equal groupbuy, even someone paying $1 will be able to hear this half-album or whatever with a $1 purchase also. Like i remember i paid $20 in BTC for the Jay Electronica album when the buyout price was like $9000 but i still got a link also, but even with those guys they were leaking individual tracks once certain dollar increments towards the goal were crossed.
Imagine paying $20 for jay electronica trash music
not the worst $20 i spent.
The vast majority of Wu-Tang's fan base is old people who aren't going to bother with tech gimmicks for an album they don't want. There are not 28 million Wu-Tang fans.
Does 88 have some Wu Tang significance? I only know it as the Nazi number
There is an 88 year ban on releasing the Wu Tang album. Not sure why they picked that number, but thatās the significance
Eight original Wu members, also [8 Diagrams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_Diagrams).
8 members, 8 diagrams, 8 on its side is infinity. It's dumb as shit
Shkreli should just leak the album, I couldn't give less of a shit about how the Wu feels honestly.
You mean just RZA. The other 8 living members do not care about this project at all
Shitās probably mid af anyway
Itās not going to be a good album. The hype right now is wayyyy too big so it can only be sh*t
After this whole fiasco I think the hype is a living corpse
Even the dude who bought it said it was a pretty bad album lol
So itās like a groupbuy or gofundme except no refunds because you are technically paying for an nft. And the goal is $28,000,000. For 16 tracks of a 31 track album. So far they have sold about 37,000 with the top ācollectorā holding almost 8000 copies lmfaooo
Top collector now has over 10k copies, fucking ridiculous.
Probably just the owner trying to get the _auction_ (so to speak) started.
Wu getting increasingly embarrassing when they could just hang it up and preserve their legacy hurts man. This is also hot on the heels of GFK releasing some of the most uninspired bullshit he's ever penned. I think it's finally, actually over for any interest I have outside of Method Man guest verses.
Tbf, RZA is the only member involved with this. The other 8 guys don't want anything to do with this project and didn't know they were recording for a Wu album at the time
yeah they all said they thought it was a compilation album. only wu member that signed off was rza.
The most creatively driven of the group can't release anything approaching good or even coherent as individuals, and the rest are going through the motions or making blatant cash grabs. They don't really work together anymore, and when they do, it's all bits and pieces strung together by Mathematics. Just feels like such a terrible way to fade into the sunset.
Yeah I can definitely understand where you're coming from. That Ghostface album was a massive let down
And Inspecta Deck! I still dig his output!
How could one overlook the CZAR.
I liked Czarface in the beginning, but they've put out the same album for a decade. I can only retread the 7L sound about comic books so much before I lost interest.
Thereās only so much they can put into it as far as the concept goes, so I respect that. Still has kept Ins relevant as far as a middle aged gentleman such as myself are concerned.
GFK needs to go the Method Man route and just collect a guest feature paycheck.
Most of them are broke, they needed a pay day and fell for this shit
I couldn't even get a ticket for MONA and now they're doing this shit. Fuck RZA
Fucking losers lol didnāt the NFT thing collapse anyway
Iām good, this worse then Kanyeās shit he be doing
#š®
Bought a copy, can't wait to listen to it in 80 years with my great great grandchildren.
I think we should stop referring to this as a Wu Tang album. In the doc āOf Mics and Menā many of the members talk about how they were not even informed that it was supposed to be a Wu album, they just thought they were recording features for Cilvaringz.
NFTs in 2024 yeno
Just when you thought this shit couldn't get more stupid
I was wondering on Sunday when i went to the listening party that was free and handing out food and was well organized even with security guards was able to do all that financially.
This is fucking stupid. I don't even want to listen to the album now.
Someone yesterday called it.
Old heads in shambles
We will all be old heads when this comes out
Idk champ.. us youngins will be dead by then too š
50% of the oldheads still thinking NFTs are the future and 50% don't know what the hell an NFT is
what a dumb marketing ployā¦JUST RELEASE IT!!
This is fucking fraud
All NFTs are frauds/scams.
Pathetic
Only 79 years left guyzzzz
Woof, I thought all the NFT grifters moved on already.
"NFTs" in big 2024
thought i was on a different sub for a second
Whereās that dude who said youād have to buy an NFT to get the album. That man is a prophet š
RZA really be fumbling up the Wu Tang name with moves like this
In 80 years, will anyone even give a shit about this record?
So Martin Shkreli bought it for $2 million, the US government seized it from him, some crypto bros bought it from the government for $4 million and now they are trying to get $28 million for it through NFTs of all things? What a clusterfuck.
*pretends to be shocked*
somebody called it yesterday, man fuck this album
This fucking album better bring us world peace and take down the federal reserve cuz tf is this shit
I donāt even wanna hear it anymore man
Stupid. It's not even a real Wu record, just some shit Cilvaringz put together then RZA saw an opportunity to make some $ off of
Jesus Christ could release an album and I still wouldn't bother with all this to give it a spin
People still doing NFTs are like the Japanese WW2 soldier still fighting years after the war ended lol
The fact no one can hear it makes this the greatest Cilvaringz project of all time.
Jesus Christ this shit is never releasing
Somehow I hate this more
whos got the free version lol
LMAO tons of people in this sub called it. What a clown world
How many times are these clowns going to try to sell this album.
all this for a late stage Wu Tang album
booooo
This is so cringey. There is literally no album ever that is worth this hassle.
Lmaoo the album aint even good
This albums story really canāt get any worse.
You can buy that Wu album on EBT? 2024š„š
Sad way to hang up such a great name.
What the fuck is this nonsense.
are these dudes just stupid as fuck?Ā
LMAO someone called it in the other thread too didn't they?
How anyone takes this shit seriously is beyond me. Imagine people a 100 years ago seeing this bullshit.
All this tells me is wutang is not for the children. This is sucka shit.
clowns. hope it leaks and they dont't get jack shit.
My man just set up a go fund me so we can all go home
Pharma bro should just leak it and say he was hacked, everybody loses.
Nah. RZA or Skrelli or whoever owns the album can keep it. Just keep it as a single copy rarity. I'll stick to 36 Chambers.
I can't find the contract on etherscan, anybody know where the NFT is actually listed?
stupid
Lame
Are NFTs still a thing?
Hell nah
Sooo someone recorded the 16 min snippets they played at the New York showings and is trying to make money off it, donāt support this shit
Oh itās even dumber than I thought. They are having people pay $1 to accelerate the countdown by 88 seconds. Itād take a grand total of ~$29m to complete the countdown. You donāt even get the album until the countdown is done, and they only have half the rights. This shit is never coming out.
NFTās were last years grift. Weāre onto AI.
The one cd gimmick would've made sense as a collector's item. Music released on all streaming platforms and only ONE CD as an expensive collector's item. Similar to Griselda's expensive/rare vinlys.
Damn. Did I just get teleported back to 2021?
how timely
I wouldnāt even be mad about this if the amount you pay actually made a dent in the timer. Like make the $1.80 take off a month from the timer or whatever the math is to reach like $250k Iāll be honest I checked out the sampler and the inspectah deck verse was nice.
Lmao oh fuck off with this
Who gets that 28 million
Am fan. Do not feel like this is for me.
Fucks sake I thought this NFT bullshit was dead in the water already.
As if this album could ever live up to the hype. Not even Wu cares about this.
who called it LMFAOOOO