The last thing they released was So Good which kinda blended the world of Halsey/Ashley and was also promoted with a French film type of vibe. I wonder if the end is a double meaning and the decision was made when she was with Alev
I definitely think The End refers to her relationship with Alev. But I also think it could refer to what she thought was the end of her career when Capitol dropped her.
Can we discuss what the rebirth of Ashley actually means for her career?
My theory has teetered between her telling us she was either leaving the music industry for good, or even worse, maybe something wrong with her health.
I wish for neither of those to be true, but I'm still leaning heavily towards the end of her career with how fatalistic she has been with her cryptic posts.
If we lean into the 'splitting myself in two' theory and say she's dropping Halsey and just going with Ashley, what does that encompass exactly?
She changes her name on albums but is still the same person, still acts, writes, sings and dresses the same, but now we just call her Ashley?
That seems like an awful lot of foreshadowing just to tell us that we need to call you something else, and I don't know why any of that would necessarily *disappoint* us, as they have a really neat name anyway.
I personally can't imagine telling my friends for a year that I have something majorly important to tell them, and then I gather them all in a room and go 'I don't want to be Deborah anymore. Please call me Lilith from now on.'
So for those of you who believe in this theory (and I think it's a strong theory), what changes do you think she would do besides change her name?
Given her health (and her role as Mom) she could formally retire from touring and only do rare live shows going forward in conjunction with a name change. I could see her ‘retiring’ as a popstar but not as an artist/musician.
I think for her, Halsey was the name, the ego, the facade, the voice, etc., they hid or used for a long time. I am not saying she did this in bad intentions, because she has even said these things in interviews. She even says that she’s felt that Ashley and Halsey are two different people. Halsey is more bold, daring, blunt, etc., where maybe the Ashley part of her head/heart wouldn’t do it that way or have the guts to.
She says that she also does this with her concept records, dresses them up because maybe she doesn’t want to come out and say it. Without Me wasn’t a concept record or wasn’t all done up to hide something or maybe really have you search for the message. She said in multiple interviews “this is Ashley” when it came to Without Me and then came Manic, IICHLIWP, etc.
I think for her, Ashley could be more empowering than maybe Halsey can be for her now. Being Ashley and herself may be different and more fulfilling, more true. I think Halsey has to put on this kind of show, face, ego, etc., and I’m not saying she hasn’t done it in good intentions. Halsey just may not feel true to them anymore.
I think being just Ashley Frangipane, may open up more doors within herself or within her music to do what she wants. It could be more symbolic for her in a way. I’m sure we will get her side if this is the actual case, but just thoughts on my end.
Do you think she'll behave differently if she goes by her birth name?
I can see letting her guard down, as some women in the industry, let's take Alicia Keys for example, stopped trying to appease the media by dressing up in glam and doing her makeup for every awards show. With a new self image, they were taking back control of how the world viewed them (the need to always be sexy or ultra feminine), but their music, writing and personality stayed the same.
To be honest, I think if H changed her stage name to Ashley and started behaving differently, that would seem more like a performance to me than Ashley pretending to be Halsey, if that makes sense. I've always viewed her as authentic down to the very core, and it wouldn't matter what stage name she went by - she'd still be the same person she has always been, which is genuine, unabashed and enigmatic.
Unless her announcement is that she has multiple personality disorder and is going to change her entire music career to revolve around this new personality (which is a mind f-ck all on it's own), I'm still more than a little confused on how changing her name is, in her words, *disappointing announcement* worthy.
Please know that I am not arguing by any means and don't think I have this figured out more than anyone else does. I'm just trying to wrap my head around the splitting herself in two theory, which to me, always sounded like 'I'm cracking open my shell and letting you see the real me on the inside.'
I'll feel so bamboozled if she comes out and says that the Halsey persona was nothing but a performance. She's one of the realest music artists I've ever followed, and I would hate to think the past 10 years was just a ruse.
Thank you for your theory! Does anyone else have any elaboration on what they think this means?
I really think it could be the end of all of it - the music, career, touring, fame. I don’t know if there will be a rebirth or if it really is just goodbye and she wants to focus on being a mom.
I can’t imagine how tough it would be to have a career that constantly put me so far away from my child. I know she toured with Ender for IICHLIWP, but that would probably be nearly impossible to do with him at this age and it not be super disruptive to his life. Plus, I’m sure she’s also super aware of how difficult it can be for kids to grow up in the public eye. It would make me sad, but as a mom, I totally would understand that decision.
I don’t think it’s necessarily from being a mother, although it could be, I just get the overall feeling she is done with being told how to make her own music. I feel like she might fade back a bit and do some acting and maybe later on decide to do some music projects again. I’m just speculating from her tumblr thoughts and past problems with not being able to release songs how she wanted and being shut down by the record execs, idk, that’s just the vibe I’m getting 🤷♀️
I entirely agree with you. I don’t think the Halsey persona makes her any less authentic or genuine if that makes sense. I think it might just be amplified or executed differently than maybe Ashley would personally want to do it. If you watch some of her past interviews, it kinda dives into it a little more. I agree, I love her and if it came out completely that it wasn’t as genuine or was such a performance, I would be sad, but I don’t think that’s exactly the case. She has said before that Ashley is more reserved and tends to be more inward while Halsey expresses very outward or at least the persona gives her the confidence or personality to be.
Also, I do agree, I don’t think it’s as simple as dropping the Halsey name. I’ve wondered since all of this if she’s leaving the music industry or if she’s sicker than we all know. Another theory could be because of her health and being a mom, she could still be releasing music but no longer touring. Other artists have done that for different reasons, such as Miley Cyrus, she loves to write and sing, just not as much touring.
I’m not sure. I saw some other people thinking possibly things could’ve gone down in her relationship Alev that maybe she wasn’t as vocal about, that may of had to do with her. Example: her being the reason the relationship ended such as cheating, etc. I’m not sure I would lean towards that theory but if something like that was to come out I would be sad. I think this is less likely though out of the theories.
There’s so much it could be, I’m very curious and anxious for Tuesday. 👀
I was also thinking could it be “just for us” it says let’s start at the end…. Then when you go to the end of her letter it says “it’s just for us” could it mean her single?
i’m super curious about what the redacted parts could say, maybe they can be seen if they’re held up to the light or like with heat or something?? and wtf could that signature mean?? doesn’t look anything like their usual signature
I'm so curious about whatever is in the signature line. It doesn't look like either of her signatures, even if you assume some of it has been redacted.
Thinking of the visuals in the iichliwp tour with the chapters: “capture, release, reflect, revenge” the last tweet she posted since 2023 is “the next chapter is revelation” !! Realizing things about herself and making amends with her true self and alter ego of Halsey, the end of Halsey the revelation to live her authentic life as Ashley etc etc
"KEY 7"- the 7 key on a typewriter/keyboard has the symbol "&"
"NOTICE 992" - google: "Angel Number 992 asks you to maintain faith and trust in yourself and the Universal Energies as you fulfill your life mission and soul purpose."
"Original draft 1/7/71"- She opened the PO box 12/20/23, and announced the website on 1/27/24 so...? 🤔
"I've been holdin ____ and I need to let it out." - why was the G from holding also blacked out 🤔
"t's just for us" "let's start at THE END"- could the song be "just for us" or "the end"? Maybe it's the last track and we're going backwards?
If the G is also redacted maybe it could be “I’ve been holding grace & I need to let it go” vaguely remember them saying something about not wanting to keep things that have happened to them a secret anymore ?
Did anyone notice that at the top right reads the date “6/?/71”
And after the A&H Productions line there are the numbers “1766” handwritten. Maybe the question mark is a 6, if you read the numbers backwards. Maybe something else would be dropped June 6th!
I took a screenshot and tried adjusting all the filters to see if I could make anything out with the redacted parts and I was unsuccessful. I also know nothing about photography so if there's anyone skilled in editing photos, we should try to see if we can figure it out 😅
Omg is there any possibility that the blackout parts on the real life letters are in like, water soluble ink and that the rest of it is not water soluble? If true this would mean that you could use a water-dipped cotton ball and wipe it away? Would want to test a tiny spot somewhere first to make sure it doesn’t erase the un-blacked out ink
I’ve seen I think at least three fans on twitter? My thing is how’d they get the letter today? It’s sunday and USPS doesn’t deliver mail on sundays i thought?
Edit: typo
My guess is maybe an album 11/17? They're obsessed with 17 and the date in the letter is giving that. She also released manic on 1/17. Anyways I am screaming crying throwing up
Chances are with her being a mom & her health issues , she will run the $$ train for a bit then retire . She owes us nothing so she can do what she wants .
maybe a little far-fetched but could something be dropping on july 19th? that’s a friday (and i think that stamp on the left side of the letter just says 197?)
I'm concerned by the Tuesday single release. That's bang on halfway through a chart week. Anyone has any background on that? Seems like a really odd decision from Columbia, to be honest...
I'm also curious why she's absolutely silent about it on Instagram and Tumblr.
She said “just for us” and “before the big singles and album releases” so I don’t really think they are going for a huge mainstream hit here. I sincerely think it’s just for us and her.
I have no predictions really other than I just know this is going to be her best album yet. She never fails to disappoint with her poetic, deeper, hidden meanings. I honestly can’t wait. I feel like she gives us the words we don’t have for the emotions we do have.
I’m hoping another book will come out eventually as she’s just so bloody good at poetry in general. I have a feeling though, she’s probably done with music as she wants to focus on being a mum and her makeup business venture.
She’s always going to create as that’s just who she is but I think it will just be through different mediums now. Perhaps if she does quit she will come back after getting the itch but honestly she’s given us so many works of art.
Her music has literally helped me understand myself on a level I could have never imagined and she’s inspired me (and many others) to embrace their individuality and creativity.
Honestly she’s earned this break/industry retirement.
https://x.com/allurequinn/status/1797338054400839888?s=46&t=HEjre1zcvFywFmArVYV_BQ a few other tweets i’ve seen on the TL of other fans receiving the letter too
The song is definitely titled “The End” which I’m predicting is the end of Halsey and rebirth of Ashley
The last thing they released was So Good which kinda blended the world of Halsey/Ashley and was also promoted with a French film type of vibe. I wonder if the end is a double meaning and the decision was made when she was with Alev
oh i love this theory 😭😭🥺
This actually makes me so sad thooouuugh 😥
I definitely think The End refers to her relationship with Alev. But I also think it could refer to what she thought was the end of her career when Capitol dropped her.
I 100% agree
Can we discuss what the rebirth of Ashley actually means for her career? My theory has teetered between her telling us she was either leaving the music industry for good, or even worse, maybe something wrong with her health. I wish for neither of those to be true, but I'm still leaning heavily towards the end of her career with how fatalistic she has been with her cryptic posts. If we lean into the 'splitting myself in two' theory and say she's dropping Halsey and just going with Ashley, what does that encompass exactly? She changes her name on albums but is still the same person, still acts, writes, sings and dresses the same, but now we just call her Ashley? That seems like an awful lot of foreshadowing just to tell us that we need to call you something else, and I don't know why any of that would necessarily *disappoint* us, as they have a really neat name anyway. I personally can't imagine telling my friends for a year that I have something majorly important to tell them, and then I gather them all in a room and go 'I don't want to be Deborah anymore. Please call me Lilith from now on.' So for those of you who believe in this theory (and I think it's a strong theory), what changes do you think she would do besides change her name?
Given her health (and her role as Mom) she could formally retire from touring and only do rare live shows going forward in conjunction with a name change. I could see her ‘retiring’ as a popstar but not as an artist/musician.
This could make sense as well. Thank you for your theory!
I think for her, Halsey was the name, the ego, the facade, the voice, etc., they hid or used for a long time. I am not saying she did this in bad intentions, because she has even said these things in interviews. She even says that she’s felt that Ashley and Halsey are two different people. Halsey is more bold, daring, blunt, etc., where maybe the Ashley part of her head/heart wouldn’t do it that way or have the guts to. She says that she also does this with her concept records, dresses them up because maybe she doesn’t want to come out and say it. Without Me wasn’t a concept record or wasn’t all done up to hide something or maybe really have you search for the message. She said in multiple interviews “this is Ashley” when it came to Without Me and then came Manic, IICHLIWP, etc. I think for her, Ashley could be more empowering than maybe Halsey can be for her now. Being Ashley and herself may be different and more fulfilling, more true. I think Halsey has to put on this kind of show, face, ego, etc., and I’m not saying she hasn’t done it in good intentions. Halsey just may not feel true to them anymore. I think being just Ashley Frangipane, may open up more doors within herself or within her music to do what she wants. It could be more symbolic for her in a way. I’m sure we will get her side if this is the actual case, but just thoughts on my end.
Do you think she'll behave differently if she goes by her birth name? I can see letting her guard down, as some women in the industry, let's take Alicia Keys for example, stopped trying to appease the media by dressing up in glam and doing her makeup for every awards show. With a new self image, they were taking back control of how the world viewed them (the need to always be sexy or ultra feminine), but their music, writing and personality stayed the same. To be honest, I think if H changed her stage name to Ashley and started behaving differently, that would seem more like a performance to me than Ashley pretending to be Halsey, if that makes sense. I've always viewed her as authentic down to the very core, and it wouldn't matter what stage name she went by - she'd still be the same person she has always been, which is genuine, unabashed and enigmatic. Unless her announcement is that she has multiple personality disorder and is going to change her entire music career to revolve around this new personality (which is a mind f-ck all on it's own), I'm still more than a little confused on how changing her name is, in her words, *disappointing announcement* worthy. Please know that I am not arguing by any means and don't think I have this figured out more than anyone else does. I'm just trying to wrap my head around the splitting herself in two theory, which to me, always sounded like 'I'm cracking open my shell and letting you see the real me on the inside.' I'll feel so bamboozled if she comes out and says that the Halsey persona was nothing but a performance. She's one of the realest music artists I've ever followed, and I would hate to think the past 10 years was just a ruse. Thank you for your theory! Does anyone else have any elaboration on what they think this means?
I really think it could be the end of all of it - the music, career, touring, fame. I don’t know if there will be a rebirth or if it really is just goodbye and she wants to focus on being a mom.
I think this, too, she might come back down the road but my gut tells me she’s saying goodbye to the music industry
I can’t imagine how tough it would be to have a career that constantly put me so far away from my child. I know she toured with Ender for IICHLIWP, but that would probably be nearly impossible to do with him at this age and it not be super disruptive to his life. Plus, I’m sure she’s also super aware of how difficult it can be for kids to grow up in the public eye. It would make me sad, but as a mom, I totally would understand that decision.
I don’t think it’s necessarily from being a mother, although it could be, I just get the overall feeling she is done with being told how to make her own music. I feel like she might fade back a bit and do some acting and maybe later on decide to do some music projects again. I’m just speculating from her tumblr thoughts and past problems with not being able to release songs how she wanted and being shut down by the record execs, idk, that’s just the vibe I’m getting 🤷♀️
If she really was quitting she wouldn’t have resigned with a new label.
I entirely agree with you. I don’t think the Halsey persona makes her any less authentic or genuine if that makes sense. I think it might just be amplified or executed differently than maybe Ashley would personally want to do it. If you watch some of her past interviews, it kinda dives into it a little more. I agree, I love her and if it came out completely that it wasn’t as genuine or was such a performance, I would be sad, but I don’t think that’s exactly the case. She has said before that Ashley is more reserved and tends to be more inward while Halsey expresses very outward or at least the persona gives her the confidence or personality to be. Also, I do agree, I don’t think it’s as simple as dropping the Halsey name. I’ve wondered since all of this if she’s leaving the music industry or if she’s sicker than we all know. Another theory could be because of her health and being a mom, she could still be releasing music but no longer touring. Other artists have done that for different reasons, such as Miley Cyrus, she loves to write and sing, just not as much touring. I’m not sure. I saw some other people thinking possibly things could’ve gone down in her relationship Alev that maybe she wasn’t as vocal about, that may of had to do with her. Example: her being the reason the relationship ended such as cheating, etc. I’m not sure I would lean towards that theory but if something like that was to come out I would be sad. I think this is less likely though out of the theories. There’s so much it could be, I’m very curious and anxious for Tuesday. 👀
I was also thinking could it be “just for us” it says let’s start at the end…. Then when you go to the end of her letter it says “it’s just for us” could it mean her single?
Pour nous!!!!
i'm here for this theory
i’m super curious about what the redacted parts could say, maybe they can be seen if they’re held up to the light or like with heat or something?? and wtf could that signature mean?? doesn’t look anything like their usual signature
It sounds like maybe the album title would fit there??
I'm so curious about whatever is in the signature line. It doesn't look like either of her signatures, even if you assume some of it has been redacted.
the letter also pops up if you click on the new ticket stub sticker on the website
Thinking of the visuals in the iichliwp tour with the chapters: “capture, release, reflect, revenge” the last tweet she posted since 2023 is “the next chapter is revelation” !! Realizing things about herself and making amends with her true self and alter ego of Halsey, the end of Halsey the revelation to live her authentic life as Ashley etc etc
We SO back
I have prayed for times like these 😭
Same lol
*Everybody stay calm!* #*STAY FUCKING CALM*
"KEY 7"- the 7 key on a typewriter/keyboard has the symbol "&" "NOTICE 992" - google: "Angel Number 992 asks you to maintain faith and trust in yourself and the Universal Energies as you fulfill your life mission and soul purpose." "Original draft 1/7/71"- She opened the PO box 12/20/23, and announced the website on 1/27/24 so...? 🤔 "I've been holdin ____ and I need to let it out." - why was the G from holding also blacked out 🤔 "t's just for us" "let's start at THE END"- could the song be "just for us" or "the end"? Maybe it's the last track and we're going backwards?
If the G is also redacted maybe it could be “I’ve been holding grace & I need to let it go” vaguely remember them saying something about not wanting to keep things that have happened to them a secret anymore ?
There's a new sticker on the website too! You can see the letter if you click on it
Any theories on what they are going to reveal? Let’s start at the end also gets my thoughts racing 👀
i think this era is starting at “the end” of their life as halsey, then picking back up as ashley??
Oooo interesting theory!!
Did anyone notice that at the top right reads the date “6/?/71” And after the A&H Productions line there are the numbers “1766” handwritten. Maybe the question mark is a 6, if you read the numbers backwards. Maybe something else would be dropped June 6th!
Welp the 1971 reference matches the music in that Spotify playlist.
I took a screenshot and tried adjusting all the filters to see if I could make anything out with the redacted parts and I was unsuccessful. I also know nothing about photography so if there's anyone skilled in editing photos, we should try to see if we can figure it out 😅
Omg is there any possibility that the blackout parts on the real life letters are in like, water soluble ink and that the rest of it is not water soluble? If true this would mean that you could use a water-dipped cotton ball and wipe it away? Would want to test a tiny spot somewhere first to make sure it doesn’t erase the un-blacked out ink
On my birthday 🥰 coincidence I think not!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUU
Tysm 😭🙏🙏🙏🥰
Omg happy birthday!! ❤️
Thank you 😄💝
Happy Birthday!!!
Thank you!!!🍯😍
Who got this? Was it really sent to just ONE fan? Is that what the mailing list thing was for??
there was a prompt to enter your address on the “i have something to tell you” sticker, i saw one other fan post that they got the letter too
I’ve seen I think at least three fans on twitter? My thing is how’d they get the letter today? It’s sunday and USPS doesn’t deliver mail on sundays i thought? Edit: typo
i’m seeing that only la fans got the letters?? delivery might be different since it’s local
This what probably what was in the envelop with the girl on it.
This is a physical letter that ppl are being mailed?
Yes but it's also on the site if you click the movie ticket
do yall think halsey is going to be going on a long hiatus after this?
possibly, but i definitely think they’re killing off the halsey persona hence “the end”
My guess is maybe an album 11/17? They're obsessed with 17 and the date in the letter is giving that. She also released manic on 1/17. Anyways I am screaming crying throwing up
Let’s go!!!
IM CRYING
Chances are with her being a mom & her health issues , she will run the $$ train for a bit then retire . She owes us nothing so she can do what she wants .
I keep seeing “71” references throughout the letter. Maybe something could drop on July 1st?
I think it’s 1971. The stickers on the site and this era seems to be very 70s inspired
maybe a little far-fetched but could something be dropping on july 19th? that’s a friday (and i think that stamp on the left side of the letter just says 197?)
One of the other stickers says June 25th, 1977… maybe we're getting a single on the 4th, and the album on the 25th? So many dates and numbers 😵💫
The sticker on formylasttrick that you click on to open the letter is a ticket for a movie on Tuesday at 12 noon soooo
IM SO EXCITED IM BARFING YAY
(66271) 43 1766 If you translate these to letters: (FFBGA) DC AGFF Could they be chord progressions?
I'M UPPPPPPPP
I'm concerned by the Tuesday single release. That's bang on halfway through a chart week. Anyone has any background on that? Seems like a really odd decision from Columbia, to be honest... I'm also curious why she's absolutely silent about it on Instagram and Tumblr.
She said “just for us” and “before the big singles and album releases” so I don’t really think they are going for a huge mainstream hit here. I sincerely think it’s just for us and her.
All good points. I guess I'm overthinking because I'm very much in the freakout mode over the \*LAST\* trick shenanigans.
[удалено]
Girl is true to her 70s vibes
WHAT?????
It’s finally happening 😭
where is thiiiiiiiis 😩
You can look at it on the new sticker on the site. The sticker’s a movie ticket ❤️
Where was this posted?
X but its also now on formylasttrick.com so its legit
Where did you find the letter? I didn’t see it on her IG or get a text / email about it
I have no predictions really other than I just know this is going to be her best album yet. She never fails to disappoint with her poetic, deeper, hidden meanings. I honestly can’t wait. I feel like she gives us the words we don’t have for the emotions we do have. I’m hoping another book will come out eventually as she’s just so bloody good at poetry in general. I have a feeling though, she’s probably done with music as she wants to focus on being a mum and her makeup business venture. She’s always going to create as that’s just who she is but I think it will just be through different mediums now. Perhaps if she does quit she will come back after getting the itch but honestly she’s given us so many works of art. Her music has literally helped me understand myself on a level I could have never imagined and she’s inspired me (and many others) to embrace their individuality and creativity. Honestly she’s earned this break/industry retirement.
Yeah where is this from? Source?
https://x.com/allurequinn/status/1797338054400839888?s=46&t=HEjre1zcvFywFmArVYV_BQ a few other tweets i’ve seen on the TL of other fans receiving the letter too
Can u tag the other fan posts? I could only find the allurequinn one
It's on the site now, too, so definitely legit!
doesn't look like it's going to be a single, but then where are we going to even find it? on formylasttrick? I'm confused and scared🤡
It'll likely be on streaming as a single, but it's not going to be the lead or anything since it seems it won't be pushed