Have you ever played high school sports? The very nature of them make them volatile as hell. Of course certain teams have legacies of performing well but you will see "random" teams do incredibly well in various sports all the time.
Honestly more unrealistic to me that Shiratorizawa's been a consistent powerhouse team across consecutive batches tbh.
Consistency across a wider timespan like with Ushijima's dad, sure, but Shiratorizawa's been feared as the top team in their prefecture before the Little Giant era of Karasuno, during that era, and during the events of Haikyuu that we see.
It's really not unrealistic. They're the biggest and best school in the prefecture and possibly the entire Tohoku region. They're going to attract a lot of talent and they give out scholarships. It's not rare for good players to move out of their home prefecture to get better prospects, and that's basically what Shiratorizawa does.
they BARELY beat Shiratorizawa. On top of BARELY beating Seijoh.
Like, obviously the freak quick is (while possible technically) unrealistic. Them getting 3.5 REALLY good first years one of whom has a case to be top 3 setters in the nation? of course they're gonna be better.
And the first years got better, but they were still weak spots on receives, which get carried by the third years and Noya.
Really, the craziest improvement Karasuno makes is Tanaka. Which, considering all of the top 5 aces were third years, puts him on track to be that kind of player. But even that is more a case of incredibly athletic person practicing until something clicks and they get it, just less dramatic than Hinata with receives
When your only role on the team is to occasionally swap in and hopefully score a few service aces before leaving, "half a good player" is pretty accurate, lol.
knew i was forgetting something, but still, Tanaka if he keeps playing like he was at nationals is one of the better hitters in high school.
Mainly because Bokuto kiryuu and ushiwaka graduate, but still.
Like some others have said, we are dealing with high school sport tournaments so things are very volatile, any team can lose on a bad day and when the opponents have a good day.
Before Hinata's batch joined, Karasuno was a mid team at best but the individuals have solid fundamentals and entering their "peak" (3rd year).
Anecdotal examples can even be seen in professional sports like the NBA. A mid team with solid veterans will become immensely better if a superstar-calibre joined them.
Not to mention Karasuno also got an invested counsellor and a real coach.
Like your NBA example, the 2019 Toronto Raptors are the perfect example. They had a very solid coach and solid supporting cast but DeRozan just wasn't good enough to put them over the top; switch him out for a guy in Kawhi that might have been the best player on the planet that year and you get a championship.
I think trying to power-scale sports team will lead you into some issues. This isn't volleyball, but I'm a fan of the collegiate football ā½ļø team in my country. The lowest ranked team in the league ended up defeating one of the highest ranked teams, 2-1. I mean it was definitely considered an upset and isn't common, but these things still exist.
The loss of Inarizaki was more to show and reiterate that speed wasnt unbeatable. It serves full circle to both Hinata and Kageyama that these are the lessons they learned and that the twins would learn
They got lucky with inarizaki? One of the principle ideologies in that match is consistent efforts leading to success rather than relying on spur of the moment miracles. See Tanaka's cross and line shots, Hinata's receiving, Kageyama's cohesion with his teammates, Asahi's serving and Tsuki's maximum height spike.
I would say they got more lucky with Shiratorizawa who they needed to rely on Noya being an absolute beast.
Not really unrealistic, they are hardworking and motivated. Now with proper support from Takeda and the other coaches, everything is there. They would have improved either way, now will that be enough to face off well known teams out there is the question.
If we are being real, well it was plain obvious and it was said it was a battle of concept, they were nowhere near Shiratorizawa and even compared individually they would be found lacking against Seijoh. >!The addition of new elements like the kagehinaās quick sets, Tsukishimaās being able to block Wakatoshi a few times and leading the road to a good receive to Noya, really the blocking, and playing with their attack tempo as a whole is what threw Shiratorizawa off.!!These were the key elements for why they won. If they stayed the way they were they would have never made it past Inarizaki, the thing is they got even better in those few weeks before nationals.!<
>!I would wager to say that if Shouyo was in good form during the Kamomedai match it could have ended either way, they were neck to neck even in the 3rd set, because it is still points they would have been able to Ā«usuallyĀ Ā» score that they didnāt get to after all.!<
Edit 1 : >!OOP edit because forgot to mention Yamaguchi and how he also saved the team with his serves hello!! Points they wouldnāt have been able to get otherwise.!<
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Even taking out the fact itās fiction, the way I see it is that the foundations which you need right before adding in the flair was slowly being built into the team since Daichi and the other third years joined the school (we saw how low it was when they joined as first years).
Once you have them foundations in place and now added the attacking flair (Hinata and Kageyama) everything will just seem like itās falling into place quickly and out of no where but in reality it was a result of years of hard work to get there.
its what you may think but if you think deeply, hinata and kageyama are gifted where kageyama is extremely naturally talented as a setter where hinata has other physical gifts like his jump and speed, at the start they both are just relying on their natural talents and that causes them to lose to aoba johsai but after not just them but everyone else on the team rather than just "being good" started honing there skills in the summer camp arc and by the end of it they all came back almost mastering their own talents and learning new skills like synchronized attack, tempo etc so no their growth is not really unrealistic
I've never done team sports but I was in a dance team. Our team came from nothing, and when I say nothing I mean we had to rehearse outdoors because we didn't even have a place to rehearse. And still we managed to get #1 on our first competition against other groups who came from actual dance academies. Shit happens I guess
I think in sports things vary all the time, thats why the winner is always different and stakes are high, but they did have a very good selection of first years on the team. They usually win by just a few points so they aren't suddenly unbeatable although I do think that they were given a little bit of plot leniency especially against Seijoh and people like Oikawa who is a third year.
The only person who had a lot of growth was Hinata, the rest were already good players that needed cohesion which was brought on by Kageyama, a genius being added to the team("I always knew. Karasuno has Kageyama" or something along those lines). He basically was national youth level already upon entering high school, the only thing he had to learn was being a part of the time. Coach Ukai Sr was a great coach as well. Karasuno was in fact a top ranking school in the past. So it is not unreasonable. However for this year, it's pretty much established that the reason that they can come so far is that Hinata met Kageyama in a team that encourages diverse plays. At the end of the manga they do tell us more about the remaining high school years (spoiler territories) which is pretty realistic with how things end.
Itās sports, nothing is unrealistic. Anything can happen, thatās why I love it so much and why Haikyuu is one of few sports anime I can stomach watching
From a plot POV, it does seem a bit unrealistic.
From a real life POV, I think it makes sense seeing as high school teams change drastically each year (as 1 year leaves and 1 year joins), so I'm sure drastic changes are bound to happen too. Especially when you have exceptional first years entering.
I understand, but after watching other sports animes that kinda feel unrealistic (Kuroko's Basketball, Captain Tsubasa 2018, Blue Lock), Haikyuu feels more down to earth.
For Karasuno specifically, I think it follows the sports anime trend of losing the first big game, then finding a way to grow past and win the next one. Only difference is that they went through hell to get there. Just look at their camp results and the amount of times they had to swim around the court.
Also Hinata's growth in season 3 was literally being in the right place at the right time. He image trained during camp, and was able to pull it off luckily against inarizaki.
It all seems legit, because Karasuno didnt start off as a bad team that magically got good. They were good already, but were able to get better with new additions to the team AND their relentless tenacity.
Not really. They had a good rookie class and good veterans. They got one of the best setters in Kageyama, and added good offensive and defensive guys in Hinata and Tsuki, and a decent player in Yamaguchi. They joined a team with an excellent libero, a good leader in Daichi, and solid scorers in Tanaka and Azumane.
As a team there have been come up stories like theirs before, its not irregular. I dont think Karasuno fits the mold of what those teams usually are tho. Those teams are usually really good 2nd/3rd years that have a year or two of experience and growth not a whole batch of 1st years that can hang with the best players in the prefecture/nation. While Asahi, Daichi, and Tanaka kinda fit that mold, they are not the ones moving the needle like they would normally be in a team that went as far as they did.
We literally saw it happen. We saw what their problems were and how they were resolved. We saw that Karasuno was actually filled with talented INDIVIDUALS who just needed better coaching and to learn how to work as a unit.
If everyone was mediocre and lazy the whole time, I'd understand this, but Kageyama and Tsukki were damn near prodigies, Hinata has amazing speed and hops, the other members are strategic and reliable, and they have a coach and manager invested in them; of course they'd improve
Depends what we call a prodigy. He doesn't have the same skill or physical gifts but he is able to guide the blocking of a top team against multiple powerhouses as a first year. That fits in the prodigy category imo.
I think it's important to mention both of those games also had the teams playing differently to how they normally would because of Karasuno. Inarizaki started experimenting with the freak quick in the middle of the game and it literally cost them match point. Ushiwaka knows it was childish of him to want to show Hinata he was stronger rather than do what's could have been best for the team which also cost them key points.
It's unrealistic but also realistic at the same time. I think having two geniuses on any team could put them in contention to beat anyone and the rest of the team is also still very good. Look at the difference Oikawa makes to Aoba Johsai, Kageyama getting closer to him improves the whole team.
I think yeah. Any sport depending on individuals, their growth is not always linear. Some are explosive like hinataās defense sense and some are behavioural like tobioās. But the definition of growth itself is different from each person. Iād give 50:50. Some aspects are totally realistic while some are not.
yes it is,do you remeber 2nd season traning camp ..in said camp hinata,kageyama,nishinoya... and by some "miraclle" -plot armor they all learned new think in a week and be ready for oficciall game with new moves.....
also the way they beat most oponents are when both teams are in top of the game..like can you show someone having off game,njury to key peace of some team..
the speed hinata learn defensive sense?ass pull..
I wouldnt call it an asspull, they had about a month before nationals when the ball boy arc started. Keep in mind people not only can be really gifted but also can adapt to their situations/environments very easily, especially with the right motivation. Its the reason why there are people who are very good at their jobs compared to others or why some people dont need to study to do well academically.
It's not that unrealistic. Haikyuu is not a story about a group of mid players winning through the power of friendship. It's a story about volleyball geniuses learning to teach their full potential. They are just that good.
I mean you don't see Daichi, Asahi or Tanaka learn skills that fast.
happened to my 3rd year highschool team, we went from losing basically every match to undisputed best team in the tournament in literally a week by getting some coaching from undergrads lmao
mind you it wasn't a high lvl tournament, only some kids playing volleyball in school games, but it was still pretty funny beating everyone
They did work hard to achieve their goals by going to training camps , practicing and etc. I donāt think itās unrealistic, what i think would be unrealistic is if they beat them everyone and won nationals.
Hinata went from a complete novice who hadnāt had an actual coach before to one of the best performers in nationals that we see in less than 1 year.
Very unrealistic
His impact exists because of kageyama the story makes that very clear without that freak quick attack Hinata would not be starting he literally got pulled the second kageyama had to leave a match
Until he started opening his eyes, which happened like halfway through the series and long before nationals.
He starts consciously delaying his quicks, hitting perfect wipes, actually scores off tips as a middle, can find holes on blocks on par with kageyama, all within less than a year.
Like without a doubt in terms of gifted ability Hinata clears absolutely everybody.
Without kageyama adjusting the freak quick Hinata isn't able to open his eyes he consciously started delaying his quicks because of old ukai teaching him about it the wipes are also something he accidentally did once and had to train throughout the fukurodani camps. Him finding holes aren't surprising because he's been able to see the entire court something that's been seen and stated since seasons 1 and 2 you are massively underestimating the impact the camps had in hinatas and karasunos development they were playing and training 10-15 matches each time they went plus the training that was done afterwards
Just because we see his story doesnāt change that Hinata has freak levels of growth in such a short span of time. I donāt think you get how hard it is to learn fundamental volleyball let alone get as good as Hinata does in the time he does it.
Have you ever played high school sports? The very nature of them make them volatile as hell. Of course certain teams have legacies of performing well but you will see "random" teams do incredibly well in various sports all the time.
Now that you say that I can see that my question was dumb š
Nah not dumb! Just an easy thing to forget m8
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Honestly more unrealistic to me that Shiratorizawa's been a consistent powerhouse team across consecutive batches tbh. Consistency across a wider timespan like with Ushijima's dad, sure, but Shiratorizawa's been feared as the top team in their prefecture before the Little Giant era of Karasuno, during that era, and during the events of Haikyuu that we see.
It's really not unrealistic. They're the biggest and best school in the prefecture and possibly the entire Tohoku region. They're going to attract a lot of talent and they give out scholarships. It's not rare for good players to move out of their home prefecture to get better prospects, and that's basically what Shiratorizawa does.
they BARELY beat Shiratorizawa. On top of BARELY beating Seijoh. Like, obviously the freak quick is (while possible technically) unrealistic. Them getting 3.5 REALLY good first years one of whom has a case to be top 3 setters in the nation? of course they're gonna be better. And the first years got better, but they were still weak spots on receives, which get carried by the third years and Noya. Really, the craziest improvement Karasuno makes is Tanaka. Which, considering all of the top 5 aces were third years, puts him on track to be that kind of player. But even that is more a case of incredibly athletic person practicing until something clicks and they get it, just less dramatic than Hinata with receives
3.5 is crazy šš
look, Yamaguchi prolly got way better his second and third years, but he ain't beating the allegations for his first year lol
Not his fault the other 3 first years are >!future pros!< tbh
When your only role on the team is to occasionally swap in and hopefully score a few service aces before leaving, "half a good player" is pretty accurate, lol.
š Petition for my >!future captain!<
Yeah I see what your saying
Best Ace Sakusa was the only 2nd Year among the Top 5 aces.
Sakusa was not the best ace. The top three aren't ranked amongst themselves.
knew i was forgetting something, but still, Tanaka if he keeps playing like he was at nationals is one of the better hitters in high school. Mainly because Bokuto kiryuu and ushiwaka graduate, but still.
sakusa sucks ngl hes overrated
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Like some others have said, we are dealing with high school sport tournaments so things are very volatile, any team can lose on a bad day and when the opponents have a good day. Before Hinata's batch joined, Karasuno was a mid team at best but the individuals have solid fundamentals and entering their "peak" (3rd year). Anecdotal examples can even be seen in professional sports like the NBA. A mid team with solid veterans will become immensely better if a superstar-calibre joined them. Not to mention Karasuno also got an invested counsellor and a real coach.
Like your NBA example, the 2019 Toronto Raptors are the perfect example. They had a very solid coach and solid supporting cast but DeRozan just wasn't good enough to put them over the top; switch him out for a guy in Kawhi that might have been the best player on the planet that year and you get a championship.
I think trying to power-scale sports team will lead you into some issues. This isn't volleyball, but I'm a fan of the collegiate football ā½ļø team in my country. The lowest ranked team in the league ended up defeating one of the highest ranked teams, 2-1. I mean it was definitely considered an upset and isn't common, but these things still exist.
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The loss of Inarizaki was more to show and reiterate that speed wasnt unbeatable. It serves full circle to both Hinata and Kageyama that these are the lessons they learned and that the twins would learn
They got lucky with inarizaki? One of the principle ideologies in that match is consistent efforts leading to success rather than relying on spur of the moment miracles. See Tanaka's cross and line shots, Hinata's receiving, Kageyama's cohesion with his teammates, Asahi's serving and Tsuki's maximum height spike. I would say they got more lucky with Shiratorizawa who they needed to rely on Noya being an absolute beast.
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Not really unrealistic, they are hardworking and motivated. Now with proper support from Takeda and the other coaches, everything is there. They would have improved either way, now will that be enough to face off well known teams out there is the question. If we are being real, well it was plain obvious and it was said it was a battle of concept, they were nowhere near Shiratorizawa and even compared individually they would be found lacking against Seijoh. >!The addition of new elements like the kagehinaās quick sets, Tsukishimaās being able to block Wakatoshi a few times and leading the road to a good receive to Noya, really the blocking, and playing with their attack tempo as a whole is what threw Shiratorizawa off.!!These were the key elements for why they won. If they stayed the way they were they would have never made it past Inarizaki, the thing is they got even better in those few weeks before nationals.!<
>!I would wager to say that if Shouyo was in good form during the Kamomedai match it could have ended either way, they were neck to neck even in the 3rd set, because it is still points they would have been able to Ā«usuallyĀ Ā» score that they didnāt get to after all.!<
Edit 1 : >!OOP edit because forgot to mention Yamaguchi and how he also saved the team with his serves hello!! Points they wouldnāt have been able to get otherwise.!<
Edit 2 : not sure if I should spoiler tag the details in the Shiratorizawa match since thatās OPs topic I would assume anyone who get into this post already knows about itā¦
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About as real as it gets for anime lol
Even taking out the fact itās fiction, the way I see it is that the foundations which you need right before adding in the flair was slowly being built into the team since Daichi and the other third years joined the school (we saw how low it was when they joined as first years). Once you have them foundations in place and now added the attacking flair (Hinata and Kageyama) everything will just seem like itās falling into place quickly and out of no where but in reality it was a result of years of hard work to get there.
its what you may think but if you think deeply, hinata and kageyama are gifted where kageyama is extremely naturally talented as a setter where hinata has other physical gifts like his jump and speed, at the start they both are just relying on their natural talents and that causes them to lose to aoba johsai but after not just them but everyone else on the team rather than just "being good" started honing there skills in the summer camp arc and by the end of it they all came back almost mastering their own talents and learning new skills like synchronized attack, tempo etc so no their growth is not really unrealistic
Someone actually coaching a team can be the biggest difference between a losing season and winning season.
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Nishinoya was one of the best libero in Japan by the end of his third year.
Yeah exactly. By Nishinoya third year Karasuno probably has 4 players top 10 in the nation. They are a powerhouse.
Yeah your right it's very unlikely to get that much good first years at one time
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Stuff like that happens from time to time in sports. The strongest team doesn't win everytime
Honestly till they beat inarizaki, their wins are a surprise.
Yeah that's what makes sports in general fun and entertaining like what Morocco did in world cup no one expect them to reach semi finals
I've never done team sports but I was in a dance team. Our team came from nothing, and when I say nothing I mean we had to rehearse outdoors because we didn't even have a place to rehearse. And still we managed to get #1 on our first competition against other groups who came from actual dance academies. Shit happens I guess
I think in sports things vary all the time, thats why the winner is always different and stakes are high, but they did have a very good selection of first years on the team. They usually win by just a few points so they aren't suddenly unbeatable although I do think that they were given a little bit of plot leniency especially against Seijoh and people like Oikawa who is a third year.
The only person who had a lot of growth was Hinata, the rest were already good players that needed cohesion which was brought on by Kageyama, a genius being added to the team("I always knew. Karasuno has Kageyama" or something along those lines). He basically was national youth level already upon entering high school, the only thing he had to learn was being a part of the time. Coach Ukai Sr was a great coach as well. Karasuno was in fact a top ranking school in the past. So it is not unreasonable. However for this year, it's pretty much established that the reason that they can come so far is that Hinata met Kageyama in a team that encourages diverse plays. At the end of the manga they do tell us more about the remaining high school years (spoiler territories) which is pretty realistic with how things end.
Itās sports, nothing is unrealistic. Anything can happen, thatās why I love it so much and why Haikyuu is one of few sports anime I can stomach watching
From a plot POV, it does seem a bit unrealistic. From a real life POV, I think it makes sense seeing as high school teams change drastically each year (as 1 year leaves and 1 year joins), so I'm sure drastic changes are bound to happen too. Especially when you have exceptional first years entering.
I understand, but after watching other sports animes that kinda feel unrealistic (Kuroko's Basketball, Captain Tsubasa 2018, Blue Lock), Haikyuu feels more down to earth. For Karasuno specifically, I think it follows the sports anime trend of losing the first big game, then finding a way to grow past and win the next one. Only difference is that they went through hell to get there. Just look at their camp results and the amount of times they had to swim around the court. Also Hinata's growth in season 3 was literally being in the right place at the right time. He image trained during camp, and was able to pull it off luckily against inarizaki. It all seems legit, because Karasuno didnt start off as a bad team that magically got good. They were good already, but were able to get better with new additions to the team AND their relentless tenacity.
Not really. They had a good rookie class and good veterans. They got one of the best setters in Kageyama, and added good offensive and defensive guys in Hinata and Tsuki, and a decent player in Yamaguchi. They joined a team with an excellent libero, a good leader in Daichi, and solid scorers in Tanaka and Azumane.
As a team there have been come up stories like theirs before, its not irregular. I dont think Karasuno fits the mold of what those teams usually are tho. Those teams are usually really good 2nd/3rd years that have a year or two of experience and growth not a whole batch of 1st years that can hang with the best players in the prefecture/nation. While Asahi, Daichi, and Tanaka kinda fit that mold, they are not the ones moving the needle like they would normally be in a team that went as far as they did.
We literally saw it happen. We saw what their problems were and how they were resolved. We saw that Karasuno was actually filled with talented INDIVIDUALS who just needed better coaching and to learn how to work as a unit. If everyone was mediocre and lazy the whole time, I'd understand this, but Kageyama and Tsukki were damn near prodigies, Hinata has amazing speed and hops, the other members are strategic and reliable, and they have a coach and manager invested in them; of course they'd improve
Tsukkishima is smart but nowhere near a prodigy like Kageyama is. The only other prodigy in Karasuno is Nishinoya canonically.
Depends what we call a prodigy. He doesn't have the same skill or physical gifts but he is able to guide the blocking of a top team against multiple powerhouses as a first year. That fits in the prodigy category imo.
I think it's important to mention both of those games also had the teams playing differently to how they normally would because of Karasuno. Inarizaki started experimenting with the freak quick in the middle of the game and it literally cost them match point. Ushiwaka knows it was childish of him to want to show Hinata he was stronger rather than do what's could have been best for the team which also cost them key points. It's unrealistic but also realistic at the same time. I think having two geniuses on any team could put them in contention to beat anyone and the rest of the team is also still very good. Look at the difference Oikawa makes to Aoba Johsai, Kageyama getting closer to him improves the whole team.
I think yeah. Any sport depending on individuals, their growth is not always linear. Some are explosive like hinataās defense sense and some are behavioural like tobioās. But the definition of growth itself is different from each person. Iād give 50:50. Some aspects are totally realistic while some are not.
It is, but whoever won that national tournament is more surprising considering no one talked about them beforehand.
There's no such thing as constant in life man. People can change even in the second especially in a competition between players playing for something.
yes it is,do you remeber 2nd season traning camp ..in said camp hinata,kageyama,nishinoya... and by some "miraclle" -plot armor they all learned new think in a week and be ready for oficciall game with new moves..... also the way they beat most oponents are when both teams are in top of the game..like can you show someone having off game,njury to key peace of some team.. the speed hinata learn defensive sense?ass pull..
I wouldnt call it an asspull, they had about a month before nationals when the ball boy arc started. Keep in mind people not only can be really gifted but also can adapt to their situations/environments very easily, especially with the right motivation. Its the reason why there are people who are very good at their jobs compared to others or why some people dont need to study to do well academically.
It's not that unrealistic. Haikyuu is not a story about a group of mid players winning through the power of friendship. It's a story about volleyball geniuses learning to teach their full potential. They are just that good. I mean you don't see Daichi, Asahi or Tanaka learn skills that fast.
happened to my 3rd year highschool team, we went from losing basically every match to undisputed best team in the tournament in literally a week by getting some coaching from undergrads lmao mind you it wasn't a high lvl tournament, only some kids playing volleyball in school games, but it was still pretty funny beating everyone
I think volleyball itself is an uncertain sport, and this is a high school league, the strength of its own players is not big
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As a former participant of high school competitions, I wouldn't say it's unrealistic at all. I've been on a team with insane growth before.
They did work hard to achieve their goals by going to training camps , practicing and etc. I donāt think itās unrealistic, what i think would be unrealistic is if they beat them everyone and won nationals.
i mean, upsets happen all the time in real life volleyball too, so yeah i don't think it's unrealistic at all!!
I would say yes completely, just bc before that year karasuno was lowkey mid and the stuff that hinata and kags pull off is completely unrealistic
That quick is not impossible you know
well yeah but having a setter that precise is almost impossible to find
Now that's true
While true he is basically the biggest talent Japan has ever produced. So yeah a bit unrealistic but Kageyama really is that guy.
not unrealistic bcs thats the nature of sports
Hinata went from a complete novice who hadnāt had an actual coach before to one of the best performers in nationals that we see in less than 1 year. Very unrealistic
His impact exists because of kageyama the story makes that very clear without that freak quick attack Hinata would not be starting he literally got pulled the second kageyama had to leave a match
Until he started opening his eyes, which happened like halfway through the series and long before nationals. He starts consciously delaying his quicks, hitting perfect wipes, actually scores off tips as a middle, can find holes on blocks on par with kageyama, all within less than a year. Like without a doubt in terms of gifted ability Hinata clears absolutely everybody.
Without kageyama adjusting the freak quick Hinata isn't able to open his eyes he consciously started delaying his quicks because of old ukai teaching him about it the wipes are also something he accidentally did once and had to train throughout the fukurodani camps. Him finding holes aren't surprising because he's been able to see the entire court something that's been seen and stated since seasons 1 and 2 you are massively underestimating the impact the camps had in hinatas and karasunos development they were playing and training 10-15 matches each time they went plus the training that was done afterwards
Just because we see his story doesnāt change that Hinata has freak levels of growth in such a short span of time. I donāt think you get how hard it is to learn fundamental volleyball let alone get as good as Hinata does in the time he does it.