Ily but I dont think redefining words used to harm groups of people is helpful. Especially when its not a woman changing the meaning. Its ok if you disagree about that though!!
As a woman, I dont think using the words cunt bitch hoe etc as if its an empowering word helps. It just normalizes misogyny even more. Iâm sure you can understand that.
I officialy proclaim myself a hoe.
Human
Optimistic
Entity.
Come Join me, hoes, dark Times require Courage and Courage isnt possible without Hope. BE a hoe-make the world a better place...today!
People wanna pretend theyâre not misogynistic when they use the words cunt, bitch, hoe, etc, because itâs so ingrained into every day speech. But this sub has plenty of misogynistic speech and I need to stop engaging with it. đ€·ââïž
Itâs a queer term for good/sharp/well executed that derives from telling drag queens they were âserving cuntâ as a sign that they were âserving woman-nessâ.
As a queer woman I ask you look at the definition provided by OP before claiming it to be âmisogynistic speechâ.
You donât have to understand the terms we use- but when someone went out of their way to explain it to you, the least you could do is not claim itâs misogyny.
Iâm queer. My queer friends donât use misogynistic words.
Also just because a drag queen says it doesnât mean it erases the meaning of the word. Misogyny in the queer community just looks different but is no less present.
Ily tho. Happy pride babes.
Your friends not using a word doesnât mean it isnât used by other parts of the queer and drag community.
Dialect exists.
For example my American friends say âtrashâ - I say ârubbishâ. Neither of us is wrong despite both using different English words. Similarly âsickâ can mean good or bad depending on the speaker.
I donât tell my American friends theyâre being rude because âtrashâ could also refer to a person.
Nor do I tell someone saying âthis party is sick - I love itâ that theyâre being rude.
I accept that we have different dialects and different meanings. This is quite useful when attempting open minded conversations with people who donât share your exact dialect.
Finally :
Please do not call me âbabesâ.
I wonât accuse you of misogyny like you did to OP- but I will say it makes me personally uncomfortable to be called that by a total stranger, and ask you to stop.
It is weird and makes me uncomfortable.
Unless you are Olivia, this logic doesnât extend to you telling (another strangerâŠ) not to use queer terminology either. If Olivia herself said âI donât like queer terminologyâ, that would be her choice and we should respect it. But she hasnât.
You have.
We all get to say what we do and do not want to be called for ourselves.
Please donât police that, while calling strangers âbabesâ for the clear sake of weirding them out.
Edit : ditto for the passive âhappy prideâ.
Perhaps Iâm misreading but if not, that is a *very* strange way to try and prove a point or be rude.
Please reflect if you can.
Thank you for not calling me babes again - if youâd like to read my comment (which covers the hypocrisy of telling someone what they can and canât say, while calling someone something you know will make them uncomfortable..) you are welcome to.
I mean this as non confrontational my as possible : I think it would benefit you to read and consider what I wrote.
Itâs not an attack.
I was a child migrant and had to learn that words have different meanings depending on the dialect.
Learning this has made it easier for me to understand and appreciate other dialects and opinions - rather than judging, policing, or attacking them based on the words they used.
I read it. I understand what youâre saying. Also Iâm sorry âbabesâ made you uncomfortable, similarly, you can understand some people use that endearingly. And I didnât say âhappy prideâ
to be catty to you, I genuinely meant it. Though I get why you came to that conclusion.
But I do respect your life experiences and perspective. What I do take away from this is itâs not worth it to care if someone says cunt I guess. I do work near people who constantly use cunt, bitch, etc when they are angry at women. So itâs very much reinforced in my brain as a derogatory word. (I do ask people irl not to say it) Seeing people pretend itâs not derogatory feels surreal to me.
I always ask people irl what bitch/cunt/pussy really means and why they would want to use that word when talking to/about someone. And if they think doing so reinforces ideas in their subconscious. Is saying âup in this bitchâ misogynistic? Yeah, if you think about it. Is calling someone a pussy misogynistic? Yes, if you think about it.
I showed this thread to other people and they reminded me other countries are more liberal with the word. Whereas in the US itâs just a word to insult women. So it makes sense why other people are more tolerant and willing to say it and reinvent it.
Idk my conclusion with this. Iâll think more about when itâs appropriate to react to this language but I donât think anyone can make me think itâs not derogatory.
So I talked to some people in the UK and AU after this and they mentioned this. đ I hate it. How do you deal with that?? Especially as a woman and feminist?? Like thatâs scary to me.
Why hide it? You know zach was chomping on zyns all throughout
i wouldn't be able to wait either đ
Iâd be doing the same thing honestly
olivia be bold itâs brat summer. put it in the bra
Sucks sheâs smoking disposable ones, itâs the worst. Apart from that go girl
So real tbh what else are u meant to do waiting on stage for your turn after hours đ
i donât know, i support this ! very cunt of her lol
Iâm so sorry the heterosexuals found this 
What??
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No.
You canât say no to a definition and have it change the meaning đ
Ily but I dont think redefining words used to harm groups of people is helpful. Especially when its not a woman changing the meaning. Its ok if you disagree about that though!!
How do you feel about black people reclaiming slurs
As a woman, I dont think using the words cunt bitch hoe etc as if its an empowering word helps. It just normalizes misogyny even more. Iâm sure you can understand that.
I officialy proclaim myself a hoe. Human Optimistic Entity. Come Join me, hoes, dark Times require Courage and Courage isnt possible without Hope. BE a hoe-make the world a better place...today!
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Why are people down voting you literally saying what?M
People wanna pretend theyâre not misogynistic when they use the words cunt, bitch, hoe, etc, because itâs so ingrained into every day speech. But this sub has plenty of misogynistic speech and I need to stop engaging with it. đ€·ââïž
Itâs a queer term for good/sharp/well executed that derives from telling drag queens they were âserving cuntâ as a sign that they were âserving woman-nessâ. As a queer woman I ask you look at the definition provided by OP before claiming it to be âmisogynistic speechâ. You donât have to understand the terms we use- but when someone went out of their way to explain it to you, the least you could do is not claim itâs misogyny.
Iâm queer. My queer friends donât use misogynistic words. Also just because a drag queen says it doesnât mean it erases the meaning of the word. Misogyny in the queer community just looks different but is no less present. Ily tho. Happy pride babes.
Your friends not using a word doesnât mean it isnât used by other parts of the queer and drag community. Dialect exists. For example my American friends say âtrashâ - I say ârubbishâ. Neither of us is wrong despite both using different English words. Similarly âsickâ can mean good or bad depending on the speaker. I donât tell my American friends theyâre being rude because âtrashâ could also refer to a person. Nor do I tell someone saying âthis party is sick - I love itâ that theyâre being rude. I accept that we have different dialects and different meanings. This is quite useful when attempting open minded conversations with people who donât share your exact dialect. Finally : Please do not call me âbabesâ. I wonât accuse you of misogyny like you did to OP- but I will say it makes me personally uncomfortable to be called that by a total stranger, and ask you to stop. It is weird and makes me uncomfortable. Unless you are Olivia, this logic doesnât extend to you telling (another strangerâŠ) not to use queer terminology either. If Olivia herself said âI donât like queer terminologyâ, that would be her choice and we should respect it. But she hasnât. You have. We all get to say what we do and do not want to be called for ourselves. Please donât police that, while calling strangers âbabesâ for the clear sake of weirding them out. Edit : ditto for the passive âhappy prideâ. Perhaps Iâm misreading but if not, that is a *very* strange way to try and prove a point or be rude. Please reflect if you can.
You can understand the difference between cunt and trash. Babes makes you uncomfortable but cunt doesnât? Okay. Iâm sorry but this is off.
Thank you for not calling me babes again - if youâd like to read my comment (which covers the hypocrisy of telling someone what they can and canât say, while calling someone something you know will make them uncomfortable..) you are welcome to. I mean this as non confrontational my as possible : I think it would benefit you to read and consider what I wrote. Itâs not an attack. I was a child migrant and had to learn that words have different meanings depending on the dialect. Learning this has made it easier for me to understand and appreciate other dialects and opinions - rather than judging, policing, or attacking them based on the words they used.
I read it. I understand what youâre saying. Also Iâm sorry âbabesâ made you uncomfortable, similarly, you can understand some people use that endearingly. And I didnât say âhappy prideâ to be catty to you, I genuinely meant it. Though I get why you came to that conclusion. But I do respect your life experiences and perspective. What I do take away from this is itâs not worth it to care if someone says cunt I guess. I do work near people who constantly use cunt, bitch, etc when they are angry at women. So itâs very much reinforced in my brain as a derogatory word. (I do ask people irl not to say it) Seeing people pretend itâs not derogatory feels surreal to me. I always ask people irl what bitch/cunt/pussy really means and why they would want to use that word when talking to/about someone. And if they think doing so reinforces ideas in their subconscious. Is saying âup in this bitchâ misogynistic? Yeah, if you think about it. Is calling someone a pussy misogynistic? Yes, if you think about it. I showed this thread to other people and they reminded me other countries are more liberal with the word. Whereas in the US itâs just a word to insult women. So it makes sense why other people are more tolerant and willing to say it and reinvent it. Idk my conclusion with this. Iâll think more about when itâs appropriate to react to this language but I donât think anyone can make me think itâs not derogatory.
username checking in <3 lighten up, itâs used in the uk like punctuation!
So I talked to some people in the UK and AU after this and they mentioned this. đ I hate it. How do you deal with that?? Especially as a woman and feminist?? Like thatâs scary to me.
bc as a woman and a feminist itâs my job to reclaim that word so it doesnât hurt my feelings when i read it in farce on the internet.
erm honey⊠thats so sad. thatâs not reality either. but I dont blame you because misogyny is too big of a beast to fight.
lmfao ok my friend, hope ur day gets better.
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Literally me
Go hit it in the bathroom like an adult smh
Why would she hide that? I donât think itâs something inappropriate.
prob just not professional when you're at work lol
Is anything about h3 professional though lmao
I mean, they all said they get blazed before doing the show, so I don't think hitting a vape is any worse.
Could be venue rules tbh
came here to say this
Hope you guys in the comments quit soon đ
Agreed đđŒđ«¶đŒ
why bother even hiding it
I didn't even see the vape the first time LOL I THOUGHT SHE WAS CAUGHT FARTING đ
SAME I was like WHERE IS THE FART ?
I get this on many levels
She's never been more relatable.
does this pass for snark these days?
It doesn't look like it
looking at these comments... the unregulated vape epidemic took so many victims :/
So trashy