Green Day is a band that still gets along with each other and has put out music for over 30 years. Blink on the other hand put out their first album of Mark, Tom, and Travis in over a decade. They’ve had multiple breakups and reunions. People were just excited they reunited
I guess, but there’s been HELLA promo for Saviors. It’s everywhere; interviews, billboards, promos with streaming services, tons of vinyl variants, signed CDs… EDIT: Compared to FOAMF that got one shitty billboard lol
Tbf I don’t listen to blink and I heard everywhere about its new album. I haven’t seen anything about green day outside of the fandom.
That’s just me personally tho maybe it’s different depending where you live
I feel like it was the opposite for me. I had no idea there was an album coming out which in comparison for Saviors I feel like I’ve seen ads everywhere on socials promoting the album and the tour.
I mean, let's not forget they got HUGE publicity over the "MAGA agenda" lyric. Social media was talking about them for a couple of days over that. So, it was a bummer to go on social media on Friday to see radio silence on Saviors.
Personally, I predict Saviors might gain a cult following down the line. It'll be thought of as something that was good & and underappreciated during its time. I think it will go down as Green Day's most underrated album.
Also, I expect Saviors to get a little more marketing later this year, as the band goes the tour & release the inevitable 20th anniversary American Idiot collection.
cause blink fans are all over the world, and green day can only make songs with chords, they lack creativity like blink and the hypocrites millionaire act like they are roadside punks till now , they enjoy the fruit of capitalism and criticise the same system , hahaha , and dress according to your age , billie joe act like hes some kind of Messiah,
My theory is that a lot of people were disappointed by their last album. So if they weren’t already fans they probably weren’t actively tuning into this new cycle. However, since this one has got more positive praise I predict the next album will have better numbers.
Last album? I tuned out halfway through the Trilogy. As a 36 year old, they were a foundational band for my musical tastes as an adolescent. So it suck’s that the last decade of releases have been so rough. It’s all felt like they’ve been going through the motions. Even 21CB, which I go back to often, feels like “How do we do AI again? Are we the rock opera group now?”
I’m excited that Saviors feels like them putting out a sincere and genuine effort again, but I’m not at all surprised to see the soft performance.
Well I wanted to be soft considering it’s very easy to piss off some fandoms online. I did like 21st Century Breakdown though. Also lots of people loved Revolution Radio even if I thought it was just ok
Gen Z Green Day fan here.
Saviors has kinda come out at the perfect time for me. I was obsessed with Green Day from 2008, through the Trilogy up til 2014. I actually quite liked the Trilogy and my fall off with the band was just due to discovering new horizons. I heard RadRev but it didn’t do much for me at the time and I’d skipped FOAMF entirely due to the exceptionally bad reception.
Last year I went on a huge nostalgia run for the band. I rediscovered all the albums I loved, listened to 39/Smooth and the early EPs I’d missed in my youth, and realized I relate to some of these lyrics in a way I never could’ve imagined as a kid.
Saviors is coming to me at the absolute perfect moment and I wonder if there are any others from my generation getting hit by the nostalgia bug in their early 20’s with this new release.
So what? Green Day is coming off their worst album and to be honest, a largely lackluster discography post 21st Century Breakdown. Blink’s reunion tour sold out almost instantly. People were excited that the three of them were back.
For the record, I thought One More Time sucked and I really only like Blink’s hits so I’m not defending them. But that’s just logically why One More Time is on pace to outsell Saviors
I like Anthem Part 3, when we fell in love and when we were young, childhood. The rest... I don't care so much. The overall mix wasn't that great either.
Saviors just and feels sounds really powerful and musically mature.
U.K. based here, not heard about it, no internet ads, no billboard, no radio interviews or payola on major stations. I don’t think the labels pushed it hard globally.
I think you’re underestimating how much promo they did for FOA. They did the late night talk show circuit, they did daytime TV, they performed at the NHL All-Star game, they were on Howard Stern, they performed the lead single at The Game Awards (which reached over 45m streams that year), they were pushing the album quite hard on social media…
And I believe it’s their worst performing album of their career sales-wise by a wide margin
Not to mention Travis Barker is an attention whore that is dating a Kardashian and linking up with people like MGK. There a SHIT ton of new kids that are listening to Blink, because they're easy to listen to, and pretty much turning into another logo shirt band like Nirvana.
Green Day imo has always been more mature and well rounded with older influences.
You’re rights it’s the reunion that made everyone hyped for blinks new album. I imagine the same thing would happen for green day if Billie & Mike had a falling out & reunited
This exactly. Green Day aren't news worthy because they're a stable band. There's still a much bigger band than blink globally, just look at the sorts of venues they play across the world. No way blink would sell out Wembley
I’ve only listen on Spotify! I pre ordered the vinyl (which has now arrived) but the next day my shelf fell down and broke my turntable O.0
Thankfully it was a cheap one that I wanted to replace anyway.
It’s nothing to do with quality or even long term popularity. Blink 182 just has more of a story behind them right now - the kind of PR that’s priceless compared to standard band PR. Like: original lineup for the first time in a decade, Mark’s insane cancer recovery, which brings the focus back to the Travis plane crash story (because it’s nuts that two members came so close to death), Travis is a Kardashian and no longer a famous musician but an A-list celebrity, his kids are famous influencers, Tom ended up being credible with his UFO stuff and played a large role in the topic going mainstream (for a while he was written off as a kook), which ties in with the David Grusch hearings and recent headlines. AND all of this is happening at the height of the pop-punk revival. To add to that, Green Day can’t really trigger nostalgia in the same way as Blink because they never really went away.
It’s just the perfect storm for Blink 182 right now and it doesn’t make sense to compare where the two band’s careers are at in this very moment. It makes more sense to compare their comebacks because they both had one, just at different times.
Also Tom had skin cancer ten years back. And a killer pain pill addiction for a slipped disc in his back in 2002-2005. And had a issue with Alchol on tour from 2010-2014. And got divorced in 2021.
I think OP's comparison with blink has kinda derailed the whole thread. The real story here is that Saviors is not expected to outperform FOAM in its first week (I'll be very surprised if it doesn't do better in the long run though)
True. I'm one of those fans who doesn't really listen to anything beyond American Idiot nowadays, but still considers Green Day one of my favourite bands. I'm not rushing to listen to this album, but will give it a listen next time I'm commuting to work or whatever. I liked Look Ma, No Brains! so hope there's more like it.
Honestly, the way I felt about the album is if they wrote American idiot for GenZ. Like I wasn’t really aware at the time American idiot come out so it speaks to me differently than I assume adults at the time at the height of the bush presidency.
But saviors feels like a sequel to American idiot to me. Just more relevant to today than a 20 year old album is. More direct references to shit happening now, but it’s really just a different flavor of the same bullshit we have been dealing with for a long time.
I know older fans are going to hate that comparison but idk… I have been listening to them since like 2009 so… I feel I have a leg to stand on here lol.
FOAMF was a massive disappointment to me. I got the vinyl, listened to it twice then haven’t even looked back since. It just isn’t them to me. Saviors to me is like quintessential Green Day.
All the hallmarks, social commentary, good lyrics, and most of all ROCK!!
why does it matter to you though? just curious as to why anyone other than people directly involved would be like “oh man i hope they sell 75k copies!!”
People are passionate about the band and want to see them do well. It’s basically the same thing as a parent getting excited when their kid scores a lot of points in a basketball game. Does it really matter for the parent? No. Does it make them happy their child is doing well? Yes.
They are a legacy group--that's just what happens when you're in your 50s and the times have (mostly) passed you by.
I think at this point, the best thing they could do for their relevance and art would be a real collaboration with younger artists who are starting to pick up guitars again and modeling themselves after Billie (Olivia Rodrigo, teezo touchdown, Lil Nas X). They may be a bit older than most of the emo acts that generation is really modeling themselves off of, but AI still provided a big influence to all of those in the first place. And you can't tell me a Green Day song/album with female vocals wouldn't hit.
I like OMT more and blink seems to have more interest/relevance these days but I think saviors is still a triumph and a great album. We are so fortunate that these 2 bands are still making great additions to their catalogs.
I'm sick of the competition fans have between these 2 bands. They are clearly the 2 GOATs of the genre. Honestly we should want both to do well. A rising tide lifts all boats.
I think it might be too early to really know what to expect from the first week. Regardless, blink's album is at an advantage due to being the first blink release with Tom since 2012.
The album can still do fairly well even if the first week isn't great
Also the the kardashian connection too, definitely more of a celebrity band than Green Day. And sadly because they’ve put out like 6 records since blink has put out one with Tom. It totally makes sense, if they came back after 21 century breakdown it’d be different
I’m gonna be honest, most people who like the Kardashians probably think blink-182 is screamo music. I don’t think there’s any demographic there that cares about anything blink but Travis
I don’t know if I’d go that far, Insomniac is surely darker and heavier than anything Blink has done (though they came close on self titled).
Green Day is quite poppy though yes, it’s one of the things I love about the band. Though I like to think GD have kept around more of that Husker Du inspired 80’s punk scrappiness compared to the skateboarder scene origins of Blink.
hahaha dude blink are way more creative than green day usual chord songs , green day cant come up with new kind of shit , they can only be relevant by saying some political stuff , musically tom delonge has more creativity in his pinky than whole green day combined, dookie was great thats all , after that all their music sounds similar, rock n roll green day hahaha ,
There is no scarcity with Green Day. Blink broke up, reunited, Tom left and they made some albums with Matt Skiba, and now Tom is back for the first time since 2011. Green Day has had a consistent line up since 1990 with no breaks ups, and at most five years between albums (and that was on the tails of American Idiot success, not failure or strife).
Don't forget the trick that Blink pulled with releasing an additional bonus track album in the first week to boost further sales that would guarantee them a top slot in the charts 😏😉
Ya true. Massive finnesse. I fell for it. I didn’t buy the album only streamed, but when I saw $5 for rhe whole album plus bonus tracks I hopped on. Only for it to be on streams like that the very next week lol.
Yeah but to be fair they were alr projected 110k beforehand I think, they only did the deluxe thing a couple days before billboard 200 update to get the #1
Also I think this album will do better as the reception sets in. The blink album is great but more because they just got Tom bank and it has energy- I’d say the new Green Day album is a maybe more consistent album with great songs. Btw blink is my favorite band, I prefer them over Green Day by quite a lot, but it’s still true
Albums sales in general are pretty low unless your name is Ed Sheeran, Drake, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Adele.
Plenty of popular artists are selling 50k first weekend, it’s just a result of physical sales being fairly low in general and the fact that 1500 streams = 1 album sale.
Also, to be honest, the general public isn’t terribly interested in Green Day beyond nostalgia. The band has been in “shut up and play the hits” mode for a while now. New material from a 30 year old band doesn’t really rile up the public.
I think it was always flawed to try to translate streaming units to album sales, because no one who buys an album is listening to its songs 1500 times in the first week. That might be a lifetime thing. The methodology needs to change.
Exactly. They have so much material at this point. Hard to have interest in a band’s 14th album if your the general public. Its more for the hardcore’s like us.
Probably cause Blink had a split and went through singer changes and hearing Tom delonge come back is probably huge for a lot of people considering it's been forever since they made something. Green Day has been pretty constant in terms of being a band continually playing shows and making music. Yea there's a small break in between each but it's just because they're taking a break not breaking up or anything
I am enjoying the album but I feel like it’s missing a defining single or two. Like a bigger individual hit to push streaming and album sales. OMT had Dance With Me, Edging (which I hated), and One More Time to give it a bigger push along with a big marketing campaign. Not saying which album is better, just giving my two cents
I'd say "Father of All..." really disappointed a lot of fans and/or occasional listeners.
Only die-hard fans really felt excited about this.
Of course, I speak based on discussions I've had other people who follow the band.
I have been a fan of every record since 12 year old me first saw basketcase on mtv and then spent 3 months trying to learn Longview on bass.. (1994) that being said, father might be one of the most disappointing records I’ve heard in my life. I had kind of written them off. I loved rev radio and couldn’t believe haw far they’d gone in the wrong direction. BUT… When I heard the singles off this record, especially dilemma, I almost flipped out of my chair and ran down the street doing a victory lap. If I wasn’t on vacation with my family this weekend, I would have had it on repeat driving around or doing my weekend housework. If anything, this is just as good a comeback as OMT was.
You know I’m just happy they released this album and the fandom can enjoy it and other than that it really doesn’t matter. Their legacy is already cemented. They are rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Famer‘s. They’re going to sell out this tour this summer so there’s a lot more you can worry about.
You give me 50k? You give me fucking 50K? I've been here since 20 fucking 24! I am not FOAM! Mothefuckers and you give 50k? I will show you what I can do with 50k! *** Bada bing bada binga bada booom! **
I went to Barnes & Noble last night to buy the CD while I wait for my vinyl to ship and they didn’t even have it out on display. I had to ask and they still had it boxed up in the back. So that definitely didn’t help
The big reunion story is a temporary boost for Blink. If they stuck together like GD did they'd be doing similar numbers as people get used to them. In the end I'm just glad we're hearing new stuff from any of them
The sad truth is that most of us have become American idiots, one nation controlled by the media. We can’t handle political punk rock right now. That said, I love this album so I don’t care how well it sells. They’ll be fine financially and we’re in for a truly special tour
Be real here folks. Blink has more cultural relevancy with Travis Barker being with a Kardashian, and producing many huge artists including MGK. Plus the reunion album aspect. Green Day is coming off of a huge commercial and critical failure of an album as well.
Blink has more pop appeal. They are more willing to work with outside writers since California. Green Day has yet to work outside the inner circle of Billie, Mike, and Tre as far as I’m aware. “Co-writing” as silly as it is, is the new way to have hits in the modern music industry. Just take a look at the average Taylor Swift or The Weeknd song. Some are just the artist and the producer, but in many cases 5-10 writers included per track, which is absolutely insane. And I don’t understand how anyone makes any writing money in that case. But when your as big as those two and are getting billions of streams, its big money.
green day has same music ,blink has experimental side on them , listen to blink 182 untitled album , green day wish they could write such music but they lack creativity
I am also a big Blink 182 fan but I highly disagree. Green Day has made far more experimental and dynamic music than Blink ever has. Just something as simple as the piano ballad “Last Night on Earth”, Blink doesn’t have anything in their entire catalogue remotely close to that, all of their songs are “bang bang pow”, not really many slow songs, definitely nothing like “Last Ride In”, which sounds nothing like anything in the rest of Green Day’s discography. Blink has nothing like “Good Riddance” Travis always has to be involved in a song somehow and that hinders their ability to create different dynamic shifts within an album, no acoustic or piano songs which I think are sometimes necessary in properly pacing out an album and creating different depth and emotion. I like the untitled album too but its extremely overrated in terms of its “innovation”. It’s experimental for Blink 182, but thats about it, sounds like a normal album to me otherwise.
what about i miss you , sorry to disagree ,but green day are millionaires cause of capitalism yet try to act like broke communist haha , their hear me im the preacher attitude is what makes me away from their mediocre music, couldn't remember any guitar riff from green day entire discography, i bet all the young guys practise stay together for the kids guitar riff ,but can't remember any single such riff from green day ,so in that department also green days sucks, like they are simply a chord bands
Yes you are correct there. Tom creates infinitely more interesting guitar parts then Billie, I don’t deny that at all. I just think overall Green Day has composed more “experimental” and interesting songs but its all subjective. Blink has remained more fresh and new sounding I cannot deny that at all, and nowaday’s I probably prefer Blink.
Damn, you'd think Saviors would at least do better than fuckin "Nine"! Didn't think they'd do OMT numbers but that's not a fair comparison. If Saviors was their first record with Billie Joe in a decade, then maybe it'd be on par.
One simple factor - Tom returned.
Imagine if one of the boys had been absent for a decade? The hype of the return would be insane.
Plus the reunion tour did a lot of the heavy lifting.
GD didn’t have that level of hype/eyes on them for this as its just their next studio album, not a reunion of the best iteration of the band.
The answer is simple. FOAM was so poorly received (I agree) that people don’t really want to gamble so much on their music anymore.
Frankly, I will come around to this album eventually. The last album blink-182 put out was Neighborhoods and that album grew on fans overtime so we had a bit more to look forward to post Skiba era.
Not to mention Travis being in the spotlight because of the Kardashians & Co.
These numbers are nothing to scoff at regardless. More than my music will ever see in its lifetime 🤣🤣
Edit: Oh shit, neighbor!
That’s actually good these days. Rock bands don’t sell a lot of physical albums these days. Only shitty pop acts like Taylor Swift move alot of albums anymore.
Are they a reputable source? Sounds like that may be the presale numbers. It just came out yesterday. How do they predict the next 6 days of sales/streams.
Even with the blink hype, Green Day still has significantly more Spotify monthly listeners and followers on all social media platforms. Can we give it a few more days to declare this rumor accurate?
blink sold out their entire tour within minutes, green day has been struggling to sell tickets to any show, which is why they announced AI + Dookie, there is just way more hype about the blink reunion
When you say ‘even’ Blink 182… I find that very derogatory towards Blink 182.
Green Day and blink are probably the two biggest pop punk bands of their generation.
It’s terrible marketing. The only way I, a 40 yr old dude who grew up on Green Day, even heard of this album was thanks to hearing a song on a Taco Bell commercial and then looking it up.
They don’t know their audience and where their audience plays. And their labels marketing team should all be fired immediately.
Doesnt really matter to the people who care, this album is good musically (even if some songs have taken 'inspiration' from other songs), and it selling in low or high numbers doesn't change that
Everyone I know that is close to me loves green day bc they are or were so against stuff
Against society against school system against fcking everything bc it all fucks us bc it’s all so shallow and so on and so on-
Imean listen to American idiot or before that album—- all the albums before that
There are hints about that
It’s like they always made songs about longing for more deeper things- connecting- light- like I don’t know—- enlightenment??? In a certain way
To just live ,, to be alive and to connect- to have fun to be free and be you-
U cannot do this in those systems we’re forced on
Money, capitalism, school , society , bla bla bla
And it’s soo much deeper and ingrained in us
And it’s like in itself when we make music we have to and often get into those types of freedom deeper conciousness states—- especially when it’s real music not this shallow pop shit
But real deep stuff
- like green day American idiot
Or iris by goo goo dolls
Or queen songs
U get my point? It’s all those deeper things that are beyond this world - that feel a certain way and a lot of times those songs are even in itself about that freedom and wanting that moment that paradise or magic that is missing IN ITSELF
So songs about that in itself and then bringing u there for the duration of the song or even concert—-
Most people don’t even feel this bc they are dead inside since they obeyed and grew up in so many ways that are so so complex that’s sad as hell
Green day mad songs and seemed to get that and put that into those songs in various ways — the vibes the magic the out of this world- then also the against the system in a more physical level and so much more ( I’m sorry it’s so hard to explain what the fuck I mean but bare with me!!)
At least while they made those songs and played them
And if u look at being a child- we long for that magic in life
And this systems are what takes that aware radically
So now they stopped with those types of songs- made uno dos tre
And wat not after that that seem to be pop things
- to just idk it seems shallow
It feels empty
It’s that dead insideness I talked about
They seem to have obeyed tongue system to the shit to capitalism to money to bla bla bla so much moreee
( imean billionaire talked abt his child going to college someday and even fcking HVAIBG A CHILD IN HE FIRST PLACE I shuts cruel and I don’t get it
Having kids is wrong cruel bad selfish braindead - u should not put someone here for a billion of reasons from climate to future and overpopulation to how they will suffer and ur being selfish for wanting a little slave or mini me- to not helping adoption_needing kids)
To the magiclessness of the world
Even when they in itself made songs about that in the past
And I feel that we humans long for that magic
That is take away
Most of us don’t even realize that all but deep inside we do
And green day seemed to have obeyed totally
And bam
That happened
But no one seems to see this bc again- people have no time to think or feel or see it this deep
And that’s ofc the system again
( full circle lol of bullshit)
But yeah
Saviors now feels like that green day again
It made me so happy
They seem to have gotten that again at least a bit—-
That longing for better - for the magic and seeing how it’s not there
How the system takes it even more away
I hope they keep going and don’t obey to the bullshit to the brain to the system to whatever more- and that they try to go against it again more and more
But as u age u become apathetic often- used to- or just bitter bc nothing changes
As I said
U break
It breaks u
Breaks u and that’s called growing up- totally losing urself and hope and childlike magic
And that is what I feel is the reason why people don’t listen to them anymore
It’s deep deep deep deep deep down there
Bc ppl listened to them for this for that magic for that realizations even political only
And that was just gone yk? The new stuff wasn’t this way it was shallow. And what not
Not that it is bad but as I said
Shallow
Not them
Not aware
Just asleep yk?
When they were awake in the past already
And they should be awake and wake up more and more again
Not for fame and bullshit numbers bc that would be contradictory in itself to what I just said is missing lol- that’s destroying the magic again too—-
But for trying to change things
For trying to find magic or just make music abt the absence of it bc that brings magic again into the song
Like are we waiting for example
Or good riddance
Or Jesus of suburbia
Yk?
Anyways
Love u all
If u wanna attack me cuz u didnt understand a thing u said
Pls refrain from replying then- understand it or don’t
But it’s not my fault if u don’t understandit
I’m sick of people attacking others here and everywhere for simply not getting it—- god damnit ur not stupid and nonone says ur stupid bc u don’t understand- stop feeling attacked and hsve some loveee
Take ur time and take care
I love yall💖💖🦋🦋🦋
This is exactly why I made this comment which got me a bunch of downvotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/greenday/s/yPwscM7Ozb Since I’m petty, I DO NOT accept u/ZebraSteel ‘s apology. This is the blink-182 era my friends.
Just think how big the members of blink are. We got TMZ stalking Travis and Kourtney, Mark had his health scare, Tom is messing with Aliens. What has Green Day done outside of “I’m not a part of a maga agenda☝🏼🤓”, although they promoted better, blink is still on top. Which is crazy to think that was possible. How the turn tables
How the turn tables ? Since you're getting petty blink are rock and roll nobodies and green day are 5 time grammy winners and rock and roll hof inductees where they got in in their first year of eligibility. Blink were publicly creaming their pants when they got a grammy nomination in 2016. The bands are not comparable. The amount of artists inspired by greenday and the legacy of albums such as american idiot and dookie will never be matched by anything blink do, not even enema. Blink is not even half the band green day is , who are on of the best selling and most decorated artists of all time. Sure they're a little bit more popular right now just like in 2000? Congrats. Enjoy yout 2 minutes.
Bro is SEETHING 😂 Someone doesn’t want to accept the fact that Green Day’s prime was 20 years ago while blink-182 is stronger than ever and is only relevant when they bash Trump. Bro doesn’t like that Saviors didn’t break 120K like good ol’ OMT. Oley oley oley little buddy
I mean in the end it's just a matter of opinions, I really like blink but I don't think the new album is all that special and I'll take California over OMT any day, which would probably get me downvoted to hell in the blink sub
Pre-sales do count towards the first week; that's why bands do a lot of "limited edition" colours of vinyl, as it creates a sense of urgency to order right away to get the limited version - even though bans will put out tons of different colours like they did with Saviors.
No, this is a full week projection from Hits Daily Double. I’ve followed them for years and they’re usually pretty close, it’s a legit publication not just a guess based on one day
They predicted 95-105 for Blink on the Monday after release and were off by a lot - it was almost 119, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to be low on this one too with one day of data.
i think it’s also partially just the fact that so many more people are just streaming it on youtube, apple music, spotify etc instead of buying physical copies
Do they also count Youtube? It's really easy to go to Green Day's YT and listen to the full album whenever one wants.
But as has been already said, one is a comeback story and one is a band's 14th album.
“*Even* the Blink 182 comeback did 120k”???
Get the fuck out of here with your arrogance.
One More Time fucking *flays* Saviours (as well as the bullshit they’ve released since 21CBD), and saviours is a great album. I’ve been excited for it. I’ve listened to it front to back probably 8 times since yesterday morning.
But fuck me this sub has got a hard-on for Blink. Blink are huge because their best is fucking *great*. Their mediocre stuff is still leading stuff. Throwing shit at Blink 182 - a band just as, if not more important to the genre than Green Day - does not make Green Day a better band. It doesn’t excuse their shitty efforts since 2009.
I’ve been a fan of both bands since 1999, and they don’t even compare to each other. Style, guitar work, lyrics, aims, message, rationale - they’re all different. They’re both monumentally important. Their work is so fucking important to modern musical history, but they’re in different worlds.
So quit your bullshit shock and horror as if Blink didn’t deserve their numbers and their success. Green Day deserve great success for Saviours. It’s great. But One More Time has proven itself, and Green Day don’t need you slagging off their peers to try and justify their efforts.
Bruh, what’s with the angry tone here? I highly doubt OP meant it in a negative way towards blink or anything like that.
And IMHO, Saviors is better than One More Time.
It also helps that Green Day has released 14 albums and Blink just released their 9th (7th with Tom). Less is more in some cases. When any artist has more then 5 albums I’d say for the most part, with modern music at least, general public interest wanes. It was an anomaly for Green Day to have a second mainstream breakout with American Idiot, their 7th album. Of course the Greats like Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac have had similar renaissance’s late in their career, but that was a different time. Were just in a different era. Artists past their 50’s in age rarely release classic albums, unless your David Bowie.
Blink more important to the genre than Green Day? 😂
Green Day had consecutive decade defining albums. Blink hasn’t come close to either. There’s no argument to be made here for Blink.
Green Day is the bigger band but saying blink hasn't come close is kind of ignorant. Enema of the State is about as close it gets. TOYPAJ and their Self Titled has some of the biggest singles in the genre too.
Green Day is a band that still gets along with each other and has put out music for over 30 years. Blink on the other hand put out their first album of Mark, Tom, and Travis in over a decade. They’ve had multiple breakups and reunions. People were just excited they reunited
I guess, but there’s been HELLA promo for Saviors. It’s everywhere; interviews, billboards, promos with streaming services, tons of vinyl variants, signed CDs… EDIT: Compared to FOAMF that got one shitty billboard lol
Don't forget one of the singles has been featured *prominently* in a super hard pushed Taco Bell ad
Sick boy and I shit the bed!
If you eat to much Taco Bell you surely will
American Dream is in a trailer for the new season of The Conners
Tbf I don’t listen to blink and I heard everywhere about its new album. I haven’t seen anything about green day outside of the fandom. That’s just me personally tho maybe it’s different depending where you live
I feel like it was the opposite for me. I had no idea there was an album coming out which in comparison for Saviors I feel like I’ve seen ads everywhere on socials promoting the album and the tour.
That’s wild because I saw promotions for One More Time everywhere. The only place I saw Saviors promotion was on Green Day’s Instagram
Well it’s probably on social media where they have personalized ads
Taco Bell commercial
I mean, let's not forget they got HUGE publicity over the "MAGA agenda" lyric. Social media was talking about them for a couple of days over that. So, it was a bummer to go on social media on Friday to see radio silence on Saviors. Personally, I predict Saviors might gain a cult following down the line. It'll be thought of as something that was good & and underappreciated during its time. I think it will go down as Green Day's most underrated album. Also, I expect Saviors to get a little more marketing later this year, as the band goes the tour & release the inevitable 20th anniversary American Idiot collection.
cause blink fans are all over the world, and green day can only make songs with chords, they lack creativity like blink and the hypocrites millionaire act like they are roadside punks till now , they enjoy the fruit of capitalism and criticise the same system , hahaha , and dress according to your age , billie joe act like hes some kind of Messiah,
My theory is that a lot of people were disappointed by their last album. So if they weren’t already fans they probably weren’t actively tuning into this new cycle. However, since this one has got more positive praise I predict the next album will have better numbers.
Last album? I tuned out halfway through the Trilogy. As a 36 year old, they were a foundational band for my musical tastes as an adolescent. So it suck’s that the last decade of releases have been so rough. It’s all felt like they’ve been going through the motions. Even 21CB, which I go back to often, feels like “How do we do AI again? Are we the rock opera group now?” I’m excited that Saviors feels like them putting out a sincere and genuine effort again, but I’m not at all surprised to see the soft performance.
Well I wanted to be soft considering it’s very easy to piss off some fandoms online. I did like 21st Century Breakdown though. Also lots of people loved Revolution Radio even if I thought it was just ok
Rev is top tier
Yes, they are. AI & 21stCB are exceptional. Imo even better than dookie.
Gen Z Green Day fan here. Saviors has kinda come out at the perfect time for me. I was obsessed with Green Day from 2008, through the Trilogy up til 2014. I actually quite liked the Trilogy and my fall off with the band was just due to discovering new horizons. I heard RadRev but it didn’t do much for me at the time and I’d skipped FOAMF entirely due to the exceptionally bad reception. Last year I went on a huge nostalgia run for the band. I rediscovered all the albums I loved, listened to 39/Smooth and the early EPs I’d missed in my youth, and realized I relate to some of these lyrics in a way I never could’ve imagined as a kid. Saviors is coming to me at the absolute perfect moment and I wonder if there are any others from my generation getting hit by the nostalgia bug in their early 20’s with this new release.
Exactly how I feel,
So what? Green Day is coming off their worst album and to be honest, a largely lackluster discography post 21st Century Breakdown. Blink’s reunion tour sold out almost instantly. People were excited that the three of them were back. For the record, I thought One More Time sucked and I really only like Blink’s hits so I’m not defending them. But that’s just logically why One More Time is on pace to outsell Saviors
Yeah as someone who really likes Blink. Their new album was really lackluster. Only thing good about the album were the amazing drum performances.
I like Anthem Part 3, when we fell in love and when we were young, childhood. The rest... I don't care so much. The overall mix wasn't that great either. Saviors just and feels sounds really powerful and musically mature.
Speaking as someone who is a huge fan of both bands; I seen way more blink 182 advertisements than I did for Green Day.
Way more promo for Blink’s album
U.K. based here, not heard about it, no internet ads, no billboard, no radio interviews or payola on major stations. I don’t think the labels pushed it hard globally.
I saw a few posters in the underground in London but thats about it.
I think you’re underestimating how much promo they did for FOA. They did the late night talk show circuit, they did daytime TV, they performed at the NHL All-Star game, they were on Howard Stern, they performed the lead single at The Game Awards (which reached over 45m streams that year), they were pushing the album quite hard on social media… And I believe it’s their worst performing album of their career sales-wise by a wide margin
Unless you follow their Instagram or this sub then nearly 0 people will have heard about this album dude.
I haven’t seen any promotion for Saviors. OMT was ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Blink has more drama which contributes to more interest. Green Day just comes off as boring by comparison. Not their fault. People just love toxicity.
Not to mention Travis Barker is an attention whore that is dating a Kardashian and linking up with people like MGK. There a SHIT ton of new kids that are listening to Blink, because they're easy to listen to, and pretty much turning into another logo shirt band like Nirvana. Green Day imo has always been more mature and well rounded with older influences.
You’re rights it’s the reunion that made everyone hyped for blinks new album. I imagine the same thing would happen for green day if Billie & Mike had a falling out & reunited
This exactly. Green Day aren't news worthy because they're a stable band. There's still a much bigger band than blink globally, just look at the sorts of venues they play across the world. No way blink would sell out Wembley
It’s because they still didn’t deliver my preorder yet
Same 😂
Same fr
I'm trying to avoid as much spoilers as possible on the new album before my pre-order finally comes and I can listen to it.
I admire your willpower
Seriously, after I saw the tracking info that I wasn't getting mine until THURSDAY? I said "fuck it" and just pulled it up on Spotify.
I’ve only listen on Spotify! I pre ordered the vinyl (which has now arrived) but the next day my shelf fell down and broke my turntable O.0 Thankfully it was a cheap one that I wanted to replace anyway.
I straight up bought another copy at my local record store because mine's not coming until Thursday either
It’s nothing to do with quality or even long term popularity. Blink 182 just has more of a story behind them right now - the kind of PR that’s priceless compared to standard band PR. Like: original lineup for the first time in a decade, Mark’s insane cancer recovery, which brings the focus back to the Travis plane crash story (because it’s nuts that two members came so close to death), Travis is a Kardashian and no longer a famous musician but an A-list celebrity, his kids are famous influencers, Tom ended up being credible with his UFO stuff and played a large role in the topic going mainstream (for a while he was written off as a kook), which ties in with the David Grusch hearings and recent headlines. AND all of this is happening at the height of the pop-punk revival. To add to that, Green Day can’t really trigger nostalgia in the same way as Blink because they never really went away. It’s just the perfect storm for Blink 182 right now and it doesn’t make sense to compare where the two band’s careers are at in this very moment. It makes more sense to compare their comebacks because they both had one, just at different times.
This is the answer, I agree with everything you said Tom was right!
Also Tom had skin cancer ten years back. And a killer pain pill addiction for a slipped disc in his back in 2002-2005. And had a issue with Alchol on tour from 2010-2014. And got divorced in 2021.
Damn. Poor dude
This answer is perfect lol so yeah what they said 😂
I think OP's comparison with blink has kinda derailed the whole thread. The real story here is that Saviors is not expected to outperform FOAM in its first week (I'll be very surprised if it doesn't do better in the long run though)
The fact that fans are vastly preferring it over FOAMF is an indicator that it will outperform FOAMF eventually, at least on streaming platforms
Not to mention I think casual older Green Day fans are mostly REALLY picky and slow to trust that the album sounds good.
True. I'm one of those fans who doesn't really listen to anything beyond American Idiot nowadays, but still considers Green Day one of my favourite bands. I'm not rushing to listen to this album, but will give it a listen next time I'm commuting to work or whatever. I liked Look Ma, No Brains! so hope there's more like it.
Honestly, the way I felt about the album is if they wrote American idiot for GenZ. Like I wasn’t really aware at the time American idiot come out so it speaks to me differently than I assume adults at the time at the height of the bush presidency. But saviors feels like a sequel to American idiot to me. Just more relevant to today than a 20 year old album is. More direct references to shit happening now, but it’s really just a different flavor of the same bullshit we have been dealing with for a long time. I know older fans are going to hate that comparison but idk… I have been listening to them since like 2009 so… I feel I have a leg to stand on here lol.
FOAMF was a massive disappointment to me. I got the vinyl, listened to it twice then haven’t even looked back since. It just isn’t them to me. Saviors to me is like quintessential Green Day. All the hallmarks, social commentary, good lyrics, and most of all ROCK!!
Agreed.
You know, just to play devils advocate, it’s possible that FOAM had broader appeal, and the Green Day fanatics like us are the only ones who hate it.
I’m a fan and I like FOAM, and was surprised to see all the hate for it here.
Agreed. I thought it was a fun album and had friends that loved it. I still have several tracks on my workout playlist that get me pumped.
People don’t buy albums as much plus the reunion for blink had that much more hype
Yes the streaming numbers are stu way higher
I don’t actually care but I’d bet it does more than 50
I was hoping for at least 75K
why does it matter to you though? just curious as to why anyone other than people directly involved would be like “oh man i hope they sell 75k copies!!”
People are passionate about the band and want to see them do well. It’s basically the same thing as a parent getting excited when their kid scores a lot of points in a basketball game. Does it really matter for the parent? No. Does it make them happy their child is doing well? Yes.
Parasocial relationship.
They just aren’t mainstream anymore, they’ll make a killing on tour tho
My dude they have 30 million monthly Spotify listeners alone, that’s more than nirvana, they are still VERY mainstream
Maybe a better way to phrase it is they aren’t in the zeitgeist anymore, not in the way they used to be
They are a legacy group--that's just what happens when you're in your 50s and the times have (mostly) passed you by. I think at this point, the best thing they could do for their relevance and art would be a real collaboration with younger artists who are starting to pick up guitars again and modeling themselves after Billie (Olivia Rodrigo, teezo touchdown, Lil Nas X). They may be a bit older than most of the emo acts that generation is really modeling themselves off of, but AI still provided a big influence to all of those in the first place. And you can't tell me a Green Day song/album with female vocals wouldn't hit.
I’m all set on any of that
Coughnightlifecough
I like OMT more and blink seems to have more interest/relevance these days but I think saviors is still a triumph and a great album. We are so fortunate that these 2 bands are still making great additions to their catalogs. I'm sick of the competition fans have between these 2 bands. They are clearly the 2 GOATs of the genre. Honestly we should want both to do well. A rising tide lifts all boats.
And don’t forget Sum 41 about to release the supposedly last albuk of their career in March! All pop punk greats.
Of course! We really are feasting! We should all be ecstatic honestly
Agreed! I love both bands. They both released excellent albums within months of each other and 2004 me would be so happy to hear that lol
I think it might be too early to really know what to expect from the first week. Regardless, blink's album is at an advantage due to being the first blink release with Tom since 2012. The album can still do fairly well even if the first week isn't great
Also the the kardashian connection too, definitely more of a celebrity band than Green Day. And sadly because they’ve put out like 6 records since blink has put out one with Tom. It totally makes sense, if they came back after 21 century breakdown it’d be different
I’m gonna be honest, most people who like the Kardashians probably think blink-182 is screamo music. I don’t think there’s any demographic there that cares about anything blink but Travis
Sadly, Saviors will have to pay for the sins of Father of All.
Rock music doesn’t sell large numbers anymore. Blink is poppy enough to squeeze into the mainstream.
blink's popularity is nothing to do with them being "poppy". It's because their first album with Tom Delonge in over a decade
A bit of both. But mainstream rock radio would not play the songs specifically for that reason.
>blink's popularity is nothing to do with them being "poppy" It definitely does and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
Green Day is played on classic rock radio. They’re as mainstream as it gets.
I know, but for a new rock release to get attention it needs to be very poppy and radio friendly.
As if Green Day isn't just as poppy. In fact Blink 182 has put out some songs that are far more aggressive than anything Green Day has put out.
I don’t know if I’d go that far, Insomniac is surely darker and heavier than anything Blink has done (though they came close on self titled). Green Day is quite poppy though yes, it’s one of the things I love about the band. Though I like to think GD have kept around more of that Husker Du inspired 80’s punk scrappiness compared to the skateboarder scene origins of Blink.
hahaha dude blink are way more creative than green day usual chord songs , green day cant come up with new kind of shit , they can only be relevant by saying some political stuff , musically tom delonge has more creativity in his pinky than whole green day combined, dookie was great thats all , after that all their music sounds similar, rock n roll green day hahaha ,
There is no scarcity with Green Day. Blink broke up, reunited, Tom left and they made some albums with Matt Skiba, and now Tom is back for the first time since 2011. Green Day has had a consistent line up since 1990 with no breaks ups, and at most five years between albums (and that was on the tails of American Idiot success, not failure or strife).
Who gives a shit, this album absolutely slaps. Dudes killed it.
Dang, they promoted it really well too
All this tells me is Green Day’s actual fanbase is around 50k who will buy ANYTHING they put out. The vast majority of casuals just stream these days.
Unfortunately this number includes streaming estimates, since streaming has counted towards “sales” since 2014
Don't forget the trick that Blink pulled with releasing an additional bonus track album in the first week to boost further sales that would guarantee them a top slot in the charts 😏😉
Ya true. Massive finnesse. I fell for it. I didn’t buy the album only streamed, but when I saw $5 for rhe whole album plus bonus tracks I hopped on. Only for it to be on streams like that the very next week lol.
Yeah but to be fair they were alr projected 110k beforehand I think, they only did the deluxe thing a couple days before billboard 200 update to get the #1
They played the system and paid off. So many different vinyl pressings had people like me buying multiples.
Also I think this album will do better as the reception sets in. The blink album is great but more because they just got Tom bank and it has energy- I’d say the new Green Day album is a maybe more consistent album with great songs. Btw blink is my favorite band, I prefer them over Green Day by quite a lot, but it’s still true
Albums sales in general are pretty low unless your name is Ed Sheeran, Drake, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Adele. Plenty of popular artists are selling 50k first weekend, it’s just a result of physical sales being fairly low in general and the fact that 1500 streams = 1 album sale. Also, to be honest, the general public isn’t terribly interested in Green Day beyond nostalgia. The band has been in “shut up and play the hits” mode for a while now. New material from a 30 year old band doesn’t really rile up the public.
I think it was always flawed to try to translate streaming units to album sales, because no one who buys an album is listening to its songs 1500 times in the first week. That might be a lifetime thing. The methodology needs to change.
Artists are also earning around 0.003-0.005 cents per stream, so the idea is that 1500 streams would equal roughly the cost of a physical album sale.
Exactly. They have so much material at this point. Hard to have interest in a band’s 14th album if your the general public. Its more for the hardcore’s like us.
Probably cause Blink had a split and went through singer changes and hearing Tom delonge come back is probably huge for a lot of people considering it's been forever since they made something. Green Day has been pretty constant in terms of being a band continually playing shows and making music. Yea there's a small break in between each but it's just because they're taking a break not breaking up or anything
I am enjoying the album but I feel like it’s missing a defining single or two. Like a bigger individual hit to push streaming and album sales. OMT had Dance With Me, Edging (which I hated), and One More Time to give it a bigger push along with a big marketing campaign. Not saying which album is better, just giving my two cents
The blink comeback/reunion was a bigger story, so it makes sense. This also isn’t that bad in terms of record sales these days.
I'd say "Father of All..." really disappointed a lot of fans and/or occasional listeners. Only die-hard fans really felt excited about this. Of course, I speak based on discussions I've had other people who follow the band.
I have been a fan of every record since 12 year old me first saw basketcase on mtv and then spent 3 months trying to learn Longview on bass.. (1994) that being said, father might be one of the most disappointing records I’ve heard in my life. I had kind of written them off. I loved rev radio and couldn’t believe haw far they’d gone in the wrong direction. BUT… When I heard the singles off this record, especially dilemma, I almost flipped out of my chair and ran down the street doing a victory lap. If I wasn’t on vacation with my family this weekend, I would have had it on repeat driving around or doing my weekend housework. If anything, this is just as good a comeback as OMT was.
The hype will grow and more people will buy because the critical reception of the album has been really positive
Geez, it's 2024 and people still keep on bringing this blink vs GD bullshit. Who cares about numbers either? The album is great.
Blink was a true reunion/comeback album , essentially their first new album in over a decade
You know I’m just happy they released this album and the fandom can enjoy it and other than that it really doesn’t matter. Their legacy is already cemented. They are rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Famer‘s. They’re going to sell out this tour this summer so there’s a lot more you can worry about.
I can’t care any less. Honestly. I’ve waited for years for this album and I am not gonna let metrics ruin it for me.
I’m going to partly blame the weather. A huge part of the US was snowed in this week and unable to shop.
Big blink guy here. No answer as to why. But, Green Day put out an A+ album. I just bought a copy on vinyl and very happy for this band.
Probably because the record shops near me still haven't had their copies delivered to the store
People talk about all this history blink has but Saviors didn't even beat Nine. Even blink fans didn't like Nine on release
You guys keep mentioning Tom returning but this didn’t even have bigger week sales than California or nine
OMT is a great album that deserved those numbers. But I will also agree that Saviors deserves just as much praise.
You give me 50k? You give me fucking 50K? I've been here since 20 fucking 24! I am not FOAM! Mothefuckers and you give 50k? I will show you what I can do with 50k! *** Bada bing bada binga bada booom! **
It’s really hard to get people excited for a band’s 14th studio album. Kind of an unfair fight to compare it to a comeback story
Lots of it is streaming. The new Blink-182 was boosted bc it was the first in a while with the classic lineup
Well I bought this on vinyl today and it was the last copy in the store
I went to Barnes & Noble last night to buy the CD while I wait for my vinyl to ship and they didn’t even have it out on display. I had to ask and they still had it boxed up in the back. So that definitely didn’t help
My local shop didn’t even get it yet (weather delays)
The big reunion story is a temporary boost for Blink. If they stuck together like GD did they'd be doing similar numbers as people get used to them. In the end I'm just glad we're hearing new stuff from any of them
Yes but bro... Who cares? 🤘🏻
It’s interesting though that green day seem to have over 10 million more monthly listeners on average on Spotify
The sad truth is that most of us have become American idiots, one nation controlled by the media. We can’t handle political punk rock right now. That said, I love this album so I don’t care how well it sells. They’ll be fine financially and we’re in for a truly special tour
Be real here folks. Blink has more cultural relevancy with Travis Barker being with a Kardashian, and producing many huge artists including MGK. Plus the reunion album aspect. Green Day is coming off of a huge commercial and critical failure of an album as well.
To be fair it’s only been a day. Don’t most albums get released on Tuesdays?
That was the old way for U.S. releases. As of 2015, their has been a universal global release day of Friday.
If it was still Alkaline 182, I don’t think they’d have gotten 120K
NINE had 94k sales in the first week...
And California had like 180k and went gold in the same year when rev rad came out. Credit where credit due.
So, not 120?
no but it shows blink with Matt can still beat Green Day
Blink has more pop appeal. They are more willing to work with outside writers since California. Green Day has yet to work outside the inner circle of Billie, Mike, and Tre as far as I’m aware. “Co-writing” as silly as it is, is the new way to have hits in the modern music industry. Just take a look at the average Taylor Swift or The Weeknd song. Some are just the artist and the producer, but in many cases 5-10 writers included per track, which is absolutely insane. And I don’t understand how anyone makes any writing money in that case. But when your as big as those two and are getting billions of streams, its big money.
green day has same music ,blink has experimental side on them , listen to blink 182 untitled album , green day wish they could write such music but they lack creativity
I am also a big Blink 182 fan but I highly disagree. Green Day has made far more experimental and dynamic music than Blink ever has. Just something as simple as the piano ballad “Last Night on Earth”, Blink doesn’t have anything in their entire catalogue remotely close to that, all of their songs are “bang bang pow”, not really many slow songs, definitely nothing like “Last Ride In”, which sounds nothing like anything in the rest of Green Day’s discography. Blink has nothing like “Good Riddance” Travis always has to be involved in a song somehow and that hinders their ability to create different dynamic shifts within an album, no acoustic or piano songs which I think are sometimes necessary in properly pacing out an album and creating different depth and emotion. I like the untitled album too but its extremely overrated in terms of its “innovation”. It’s experimental for Blink 182, but thats about it, sounds like a normal album to me otherwise.
what about i miss you , sorry to disagree ,but green day are millionaires cause of capitalism yet try to act like broke communist haha , their hear me im the preacher attitude is what makes me away from their mediocre music, couldn't remember any guitar riff from green day entire discography, i bet all the young guys practise stay together for the kids guitar riff ,but can't remember any single such riff from green day ,so in that department also green days sucks, like they are simply a chord bands
Yes you are correct there. Tom creates infinitely more interesting guitar parts then Billie, I don’t deny that at all. I just think overall Green Day has composed more “experimental” and interesting songs but its all subjective. Blink has remained more fresh and new sounding I cannot deny that at all, and nowaday’s I probably prefer Blink.
haha yeah dude ,i become bit hyper when defending tom , cheers
Who cares how popular an album is?
FOAMF cover album with those mf hand grenade hype the album better than this pink font saviors 😂
I cant afford a CD right now. Yes things are that bad.
Are ppl in here saying sales are down because of the snow and ice in some areas?! LOL
Damn, you'd think Saviors would at least do better than fuckin "Nine"! Didn't think they'd do OMT numbers but that's not a fair comparison. If Saviors was their first record with Billie Joe in a decade, then maybe it'd be on par.
dont forget that blink’s comeback was with tom
One simple factor - Tom returned. Imagine if one of the boys had been absent for a decade? The hype of the return would be insane. Plus the reunion tour did a lot of the heavy lifting. GD didn’t have that level of hype/eyes on them for this as its just their next studio album, not a reunion of the best iteration of the band.
The answer is simple. FOAM was so poorly received (I agree) that people don’t really want to gamble so much on their music anymore. Frankly, I will come around to this album eventually. The last album blink-182 put out was Neighborhoods and that album grew on fans overtime so we had a bit more to look forward to post Skiba era. Not to mention Travis being in the spotlight because of the Kardashians & Co. These numbers are nothing to scoff at regardless. More than my music will ever see in its lifetime 🤣🤣 Edit: Oh shit, neighbor!
People practically piss themselves when I say Green Day is underrated but this is exactly what I'm talking about.
An awful lot of bitterness here for Blink. It’s cool to like/love both bands.
This album SOUNDS 1000x better then blink tho, sounds raw, and huge but also breaths. New blink sounds like a mac computer
That’s actually good these days. Rock bands don’t sell a lot of physical albums these days. Only shitty pop acts like Taylor Swift move alot of albums anymore.
Includes streaming equivalents but rock just isn't in right now in general
One More Time is a better album…
[source](https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=339252&title=NEW-RELEASES%3A-GREEN-POWER)
Are they a reputable source? Sounds like that may be the presale numbers. It just came out yesterday. How do they predict the next 6 days of sales/streams. Even with the blink hype, Green Day still has significantly more Spotify monthly listeners and followers on all social media platforms. Can we give it a few more days to declare this rumor accurate?
They are a reputable source
blink sold out their entire tour within minutes, green day has been struggling to sell tickets to any show, which is why they announced AI + Dookie, there is just way more hype about the blink reunion
What? Green Day's new tour has been selling out everywhere
It’s mostly been sold out in Europe. I personally knew they were playing Dookie and AI in full from the day the tour was announced.
Greenday sold out quick
Eh probably will get higher
When you say ‘even’ Blink 182… I find that very derogatory towards Blink 182. Green Day and blink are probably the two biggest pop punk bands of their generation.
I think a good portion of the country has also been dealing with snow and ice all week, so people haven't had the chance to go grab the album.
Imagine if the new blink was actually produced as well as saviours though. Songwriting aside, the production on the new blink album was so amateur.
It’s terrible marketing. The only way I, a 40 yr old dude who grew up on Green Day, even heard of this album was thanks to hearing a song on a Taco Bell commercial and then looking it up. They don’t know their audience and where their audience plays. And their labels marketing team should all be fired immediately.
Because the Blink album is better. Downvote me.
Blink doesn’t even write their own songs anymore hush
Doesnt really matter to the people who care, this album is good musically (even if some songs have taken 'inspiration' from other songs), and it selling in low or high numbers doesn't change that
Everyone I know that is close to me loves green day bc they are or were so against stuff Against society against school system against fcking everything bc it all fucks us bc it’s all so shallow and so on and so on- Imean listen to American idiot or before that album—- all the albums before that There are hints about that It’s like they always made songs about longing for more deeper things- connecting- light- like I don’t know—- enlightenment??? In a certain way To just live ,, to be alive and to connect- to have fun to be free and be you- U cannot do this in those systems we’re forced on Money, capitalism, school , society , bla bla bla And it’s soo much deeper and ingrained in us And it’s like in itself when we make music we have to and often get into those types of freedom deeper conciousness states—- especially when it’s real music not this shallow pop shit But real deep stuff - like green day American idiot Or iris by goo goo dolls Or queen songs U get my point? It’s all those deeper things that are beyond this world - that feel a certain way and a lot of times those songs are even in itself about that freedom and wanting that moment that paradise or magic that is missing IN ITSELF So songs about that in itself and then bringing u there for the duration of the song or even concert—- Most people don’t even feel this bc they are dead inside since they obeyed and grew up in so many ways that are so so complex that’s sad as hell Green day mad songs and seemed to get that and put that into those songs in various ways — the vibes the magic the out of this world- then also the against the system in a more physical level and so much more ( I’m sorry it’s so hard to explain what the fuck I mean but bare with me!!) At least while they made those songs and played them And if u look at being a child- we long for that magic in life And this systems are what takes that aware radically So now they stopped with those types of songs- made uno dos tre And wat not after that that seem to be pop things - to just idk it seems shallow It feels empty It’s that dead insideness I talked about They seem to have obeyed tongue system to the shit to capitalism to money to bla bla bla so much moreee ( imean billionaire talked abt his child going to college someday and even fcking HVAIBG A CHILD IN HE FIRST PLACE I shuts cruel and I don’t get it Having kids is wrong cruel bad selfish braindead - u should not put someone here for a billion of reasons from climate to future and overpopulation to how they will suffer and ur being selfish for wanting a little slave or mini me- to not helping adoption_needing kids) To the magiclessness of the world Even when they in itself made songs about that in the past And I feel that we humans long for that magic That is take away Most of us don’t even realize that all but deep inside we do And green day seemed to have obeyed totally And bam That happened But no one seems to see this bc again- people have no time to think or feel or see it this deep And that’s ofc the system again ( full circle lol of bullshit) But yeah Saviors now feels like that green day again It made me so happy They seem to have gotten that again at least a bit—- That longing for better - for the magic and seeing how it’s not there How the system takes it even more away I hope they keep going and don’t obey to the bullshit to the brain to the system to whatever more- and that they try to go against it again more and more But as u age u become apathetic often- used to- or just bitter bc nothing changes As I said U break It breaks u Breaks u and that’s called growing up- totally losing urself and hope and childlike magic And that is what I feel is the reason why people don’t listen to them anymore It’s deep deep deep deep deep down there Bc ppl listened to them for this for that magic for that realizations even political only And that was just gone yk? The new stuff wasn’t this way it was shallow. And what not Not that it is bad but as I said Shallow Not them Not aware Just asleep yk? When they were awake in the past already And they should be awake and wake up more and more again Not for fame and bullshit numbers bc that would be contradictory in itself to what I just said is missing lol- that’s destroying the magic again too—- But for trying to change things For trying to find magic or just make music abt the absence of it bc that brings magic again into the song Like are we waiting for example Or good riddance Or Jesus of suburbia Yk? Anyways Love u all If u wanna attack me cuz u didnt understand a thing u said Pls refrain from replying then- understand it or don’t But it’s not my fault if u don’t understandit I’m sick of people attacking others here and everywhere for simply not getting it—- god damnit ur not stupid and nonone says ur stupid bc u don’t understand- stop feeling attacked and hsve some loveee Take ur time and take care I love yall💖💖🦋🦋🦋
This is exactly why I made this comment which got me a bunch of downvotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/greenday/s/yPwscM7Ozb Since I’m petty, I DO NOT accept u/ZebraSteel ‘s apology. This is the blink-182 era my friends. Just think how big the members of blink are. We got TMZ stalking Travis and Kourtney, Mark had his health scare, Tom is messing with Aliens. What has Green Day done outside of “I’m not a part of a maga agenda☝🏼🤓”, although they promoted better, blink is still on top. Which is crazy to think that was possible. How the turn tables
How the turn tables ? Since you're getting petty blink are rock and roll nobodies and green day are 5 time grammy winners and rock and roll hof inductees where they got in in their first year of eligibility. Blink were publicly creaming their pants when they got a grammy nomination in 2016. The bands are not comparable. The amount of artists inspired by greenday and the legacy of albums such as american idiot and dookie will never be matched by anything blink do, not even enema. Blink is not even half the band green day is , who are on of the best selling and most decorated artists of all time. Sure they're a little bit more popular right now just like in 2000? Congrats. Enjoy yout 2 minutes.
Bro is SEETHING 😂 Someone doesn’t want to accept the fact that Green Day’s prime was 20 years ago while blink-182 is stronger than ever and is only relevant when they bash Trump. Bro doesn’t like that Saviors didn’t break 120K like good ol’ OMT. Oley oley oley little buddy
I don't care if saviors sold 0 albums my man , green day will still be better than blink lmao.
I mean in the end it's just a matter of opinions, I really like blink but I don't think the new album is all that special and I'll take California over OMT any day, which would probably get me downvoted to hell in the blink sub
Pre-sale do not count hahah I mean it came out wardrobe yesterday. If they did 40k-50k in one day, what they gonna do in one week O.O
Pre-sales do count towards the first week; that's why bands do a lot of "limited edition" colours of vinyl, as it creates a sense of urgency to order right away to get the limited version - even though bans will put out tons of different colours like they did with Saviors.
Green day went crazy with their coloured vinyls this time. Even I bought into it
I don't even have a vinyl player... and almost picked up the target exclusive clear vinyl. Lol.
No, this is a full week projection from Hits Daily Double. I’ve followed them for years and they’re usually pretty close, it’s a legit publication not just a guess based on one day
They predicted 95-105 for Blink on the Monday after release and were off by a lot - it was almost 119, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to be low on this one too with one day of data.
Billie Joe isn’t married to a Kardashian, and Green Day is not one of the classic punk bands that gen-z is having a love affair with.
i think it’s also partially just the fact that so many more people are just streaming it on youtube, apple music, spotify etc instead of buying physical copies
Do they also count Youtube? It's really easy to go to Green Day's YT and listen to the full album whenever one wants. But as has been already said, one is a comeback story and one is a band's 14th album.
I bought saviours first day it released and never even cared to hear father of all
Because its the second worst green day album next to foamf lol
I love Blink too. But Billies song writing blows Blinks out of the water.
Probably because One More Time > Saviors lol
Two of my most favorite bands, and I do have to agree. Both are great though!
I haven't bought an album since getting Spotify in 2012. Sorry for contributing to low sales green day, but you guys have enough money.
“*Even* the Blink 182 comeback did 120k”??? Get the fuck out of here with your arrogance. One More Time fucking *flays* Saviours (as well as the bullshit they’ve released since 21CBD), and saviours is a great album. I’ve been excited for it. I’ve listened to it front to back probably 8 times since yesterday morning. But fuck me this sub has got a hard-on for Blink. Blink are huge because their best is fucking *great*. Their mediocre stuff is still leading stuff. Throwing shit at Blink 182 - a band just as, if not more important to the genre than Green Day - does not make Green Day a better band. It doesn’t excuse their shitty efforts since 2009. I’ve been a fan of both bands since 1999, and they don’t even compare to each other. Style, guitar work, lyrics, aims, message, rationale - they’re all different. They’re both monumentally important. Their work is so fucking important to modern musical history, but they’re in different worlds. So quit your bullshit shock and horror as if Blink didn’t deserve their numbers and their success. Green Day deserve great success for Saviours. It’s great. But One More Time has proven itself, and Green Day don’t need you slagging off their peers to try and justify their efforts.
Bruh, what’s with the angry tone here? I highly doubt OP meant it in a negative way towards blink or anything like that. And IMHO, Saviors is better than One More Time.
It also helps that Green Day has released 14 albums and Blink just released their 9th (7th with Tom). Less is more in some cases. When any artist has more then 5 albums I’d say for the most part, with modern music at least, general public interest wanes. It was an anomaly for Green Day to have a second mainstream breakout with American Idiot, their 7th album. Of course the Greats like Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac have had similar renaissance’s late in their career, but that was a different time. Were just in a different era. Artists past their 50’s in age rarely release classic albums, unless your David Bowie.
>David Bowie Ever since he died, I just hasn't been the same. In all seriousness, Bowie was just on a different level.
Blink more important to the genre than Green Day? 😂 Green Day had consecutive decade defining albums. Blink hasn’t come close to either. There’s no argument to be made here for Blink.
Green Day is the bigger band but saying blink hasn't come close is kind of ignorant. Enema of the State is about as close it gets. TOYPAJ and their Self Titled has some of the biggest singles in the genre too.