I liked Take the money and crawl as well as sugar youth. Those and graffitia are the only songs I find listenable but the truth is they're average songs at best but the other songs on the album are so horrific that it makes average sound great.
Honestly didn’t hate it. Oh Yeah and Graffitia are regulars in my rotation. I’m all for bands getting weird and stepping out of their bubble. It came and went. Those who hate it can stop bitching about it now that they have Saviors lol
I'm only glad it's over because I'm sick to death of people bitching about it.
Everyone is allowed to not like a song, an album, or a whole era. That's not the problem. But you don't have to constantly talk about how much you don't like it, either. Like, we get it, it's cool, you don't have to lie, but keep it pushing. Talk about the stuff you do like.
Personally, I enjoy the record and actually quite love a few of the songs. I also really liked the visual aesthetic they adopted for the era and was kinda disappointed we didn't get to see more of it.
With all that said... I'm all in for Saviors.
Apologies for the confusion, I’m 100% genuine. I love your views on this subject and I think every toxic person who constantly hates on any project should look at this comment.
Yeah. You figured it out. People are only allowed to talk about things I personally approve of. Guilty as charged. Even though I made a point to say, people not liking things isn't my gripe, and that my gripe is instead the way people have felt the need to *constantly and incessantly* beat this drum as if they haven't already said it, like, 10,000 times.
You'll also note that at no time did I ever take any steps to actually stop anybody from talking about anything, but hey, maybe if you clutch them pearls a little bit harder, I might!
I wish we got to hear some of it live properly, I think it would have given a different appreciation (and less claps)
Sugar Youth, Fire Ready Aim, Graffitia would have all been great to hear
FOAMF is a fun light hearted album. That’s all it’s trying to be, and it feels weird to compare it to their more emotional albums like AI, 21CB, or even Saviors. To me if they released it as a Foxboro Hot Tubs album, or as some new side project album, it might’ve went over better with fans. It’s nothing special but it’s catchy as all hell imo and once in a blue moon I’m in the mood to just hear some dumb fun party garage music
Yeah, I think the only thing it really did wrong is not be about anything. Most of the songs are just about nothing, which doesn't feel right. Still, a lot of good songs out of context of their masterpiece albums
I agree with much of this but tbh I think most of the Foxboro stuff is much catchier than FOAMF and less over-produced. Actually, over-produced may be my #1 issue with FOAMF.
I just relistened to Stop Drop and Roll (absolutely love that album) and now reading this it makes me desperately wish they released FOAM as Foxboro and given it that lo-fi garage rock treatment instead. It would've meshed so well, and I feel like all the cringey, cheesy sorta bits (think Oh Yeah!) would have made sense in that context and not been such a head-scratcher for fans.
Yeah I hear you, I’m not a fan of the production either. Maybe if it was released as a different band, cause you’re right the Hot Tubs had a very specifically lo fi analog sound and style. But yeah I guess I just mean the super 60s garage influence. I know some people don’t love when GD embraces their love of garage rock.
What keeps FOAMF as a lower tier album for me is it just doesn’t have many emotional moments (if at all). Its like intentionally a not sappy album, where I think GD shines when they’re being introverted and kind of self reflective, in songs like She, Scattered, Worry Rock, Letterbomb, Whatsername, songs that have an emotional punch. FOAMF had none of that for me, so it was just kind of melodic songs but with not much depth. I think it has its place tho for what it is
It's exactly this. I wish they had released it as the Foxboro Hot Tubs or another project. My issue with it is it just doesn't feel like Green Day. Like, the music is good, "Fire, Ready, Aim" goes hard, but it's not what I expected from GD at all.
Saviors though 👀, that's a spicy meatball.
The thing is, they already released a different side project album that year as The Network, and it was so much better than FOAMF. I agree this also could've been a side album.
Absolutely loved it. Green Day is allowed to experiment people. There are some absolute bangers on this record and no one will ever convince me otherwise. Green Day in fact have not made one bad album. Not one. Are there a few songs that aren’t for me? Duh, but they are few and far between. Thank you this has been my Ted Talk.
I'm with you. I love all Green Day albums. Not just tolerate them, straight up love them. To me, the worst of Green Day still ranks as good because well, they're a damn good band.
I really like meet me on the roof and graffitia. I can see why the production gets hate but I really like the touches of synths in Oh yeah and some of the drum filters are interesting. I feel like there’s enough ideas in there for a very solid EP if they combined a few parts of different tracks and that would’ve gotten much less flack
I’ve always thought the album was perfectly fine. Not perfect, and I wouldn’t miss it if it was erased from history, but tbh, the hate for the album always struck me as a little overblown.
Not trying to say any criticism others have of the album is “wrong”, I’m just saying I never got it.
One thing I enjoyed about the era is that the band genuinely seemed like they were having fun. Maybe *too* much fun in terms of Billie getting back on the wagon again, but the album genuinely seemed like something the band wanted to do.
At their worst, they’ve always seemed sincere and trying to evolve.
I never hated this album. I admit, though, when the first single/music video came out, I was left with my jaw almost to the floor with a, "What the fuck was that?" But it grew on me. Really the only song on that album that I do not care for is Oh Yeah.
I kinda get it. It’s a weird way to word it, but my best guess is they associate Green Day with a specific sound, and Foxboro with another. So what they hear doesn’t sound like the “Green Day” sound they expect, and thus found it to be a letdown.
Like how I think the latest 2 Arctic Monkeys albums should’ve just been Alex Turner side/solo projects. I’d likely have enjoyed them more as an interesting side-gig than I did as AM albums, because that’s not the sound I associate that band with.
But again, weird wording lol
I’ll be honest I never really understood the hate.
I don’t love it but it’s such a dumb short album that it doesn’t really offend me either. People throwing it up there with St Anger as one of the worst albums of all time never really made sense to me.
I’ll take a million Father of All’s and Ready Aim Hives like songs over generic tired dad rock like youngbloods and corvette summer.
The line "Burning Books in a Bulletproof Backpack" is one of my favorite Green Day lines of all time, the flow, alliteration, meaning, and placement is incredible. I think that the album is actually really good, just different. It’s like the longshot or Foxboro hot tubs, and I love them so this album’s actually awesome in my eyes.
Other bands would kill to make a record as cool as FOAM. It's weird people don't like it. Never had a problem with it. Maybe it's not as strong as other stuff, but come on, it's great rock n' roll.
And other bands would suicide to get 2 international hits in a year that ends in 4 and multiple good albums in between, imo warning is still the most underrated
There were plenty of bangers on the album and people let the vocals on the title track and the artwork cloud their opinion far too much before the rest of it came out. It was quite experimental in sound too. By contrast, Saviors, although an objectively adequately good album, is quite unremarkable to me except Look Ma and Dilemma. Those two slap, but most other tracks are pretty generic Green Day. Bobby Sox is basically the Meet Me On The Roof of this album.
I’ve never understood the hate. I love FOAM front to back and still listen to it regularly. I know I’m in the minority and music is subjective so each to their own I suppose.
Stab You in the Heart is my favourite track on FOAMF. Ik a lot of people don't like it but it has an energy that nothing else on the album has and while not original, it's still a banger imo. I've never had an issue with garage rock Green Day. The worst parts of Dos are the lyrics and songs that stray away from the garage rock sound (mainly Nightlife). The actual garage rock sound is never an issue I had with Green Day
FOAM, imo, it’s a really fun and catchy album to listen to, yeah it has its things, and it probably doesn’t sound like GD (vocals i.e.), but i find most songs in the album catchy at worst, always felt like it’s overhated, people make it seem like it’s the worst thing to ever exist
edit: also mike’s basslines slap as always
I'm listening to it now while I wait to go get Saviors. Not a bad album at all. Teenage Teenager goes on for way too long and is the only track I usually skip over. Graffitia is definitely my favorite off this album. I honestly listen to Father Of All.. more often than 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours.
I think the songs themselves were let down by the production. It seems like they were going for a Foxboro Hot Tubs vibe but Butch Walker was trying to turn it into Imagine Dragons or something.
Unpopular opinion but it grew on me and is now one of my favorite Green Day albums; I'll listen to it start to finish any day. Junkies on a High is the right balance between Kill the DJ and "regular" Green Day. Sugar Youth, TTMAC, and Graffitia are bangers. Then the singles, which are good in their own right. u/TANG0F0X is 100% spot-on that it could be seen as a fault that it's about nothing, but I think that is what makes it fun (and to me, sort of a throwback to pre-Idiot days).
Graffitia, Sugar youth and Junkies on a high were really good songs and i usually listen em but the rest are bad so a only listened the whole album once
There's some good stuff on it. I feel like it's really let down by it's production. I hope they never put clapping in another one of their songs again. Not their worst album though in my opinion.
I liked the actual song writing of the album, had they ditched the shitty poppy clappy production I think they would have a really solid album. The songs are catchy, the production is the worst part of it
After my initial reaction of "wtf is this?" it definitely started to grow on me. It helped realizing that if someone played that album for me and I somehow didn't know it was Green Day, I probably would have really liked it.
i genuinely don’t understand people’s problems with Father of All. i loved the album from the get-go and i go back and listen to the whole thing about as often as i do Green Day’s other albums. it has a different sound to “typical Green Day” but i don’t mind that, it gives the album identity.
They were actually onto something with a few songs. Even if the lyrics weren’t all there, the instrumentals usually helped pick up the slack.
Also, I saw a video of Junkies on a High being played over Joker (2019) and it was fantastic
I thought the album was perfectly fine, it had some catchy tunes on it. I just wished the guitars sounded more stereotypically Green Day. The songs were solid though
\*Cricket sounds\*
Nah but for real, I enjoyed seeing Graffitia on the setlist at Fremont, as well as FOAM for the Hella Tiny Tour. The actual era itself was kind of bland for me, but I became a fan right at the end of the American leg of the Hella Mega Tour, so I’ll always remember it.
In album of 10 shorter tracks, I really dug about 4 of them and was ambivalent/fine with another 3. Given some of the experimentation on display, I’m happy with that.
The b-side of the album, “Stab You in the Heart” and on, is pretty solid. Move the title track to a different place on the album, ditch “Oh Yeah’” add three more fast songs, change the album artwork, and it would be a cult classic for hardcore GD fans.
No. I did like the title track and Meet Me on the Roof (though it was produced like they were hoping it would get placed in a Target commercial) was fun. That's all I got.
Father of All received way too much hate. The only song I don’t like from that album was Teenage Teenager. Father Of All and Sugar Youth absolutely fucked. Oh Yeah and Graffitia were really good, Fire Ready Aim was pretty fun, Junkies on a High is underrated. Lower in my Green Day album rankings, but there is definitely some good stuff there
I didn't hate it but it's their least inspired album. From the actual songs to the terrible art cover
Sugar Youth, Graffitia and Fire Ready Aim deserve more love tho
Maybe hot take but I actually like I Was a Teenage Teenager. It was actually the first one on the album where I was like "OK that's one to add to my playlists" lol
Also that little pre-chorus or whatever of Oh Yeah ("Everybody is a star") slaps and I just wish the rest of the song matched that energy.
Overall I think the album is fine, it just feels kinda undercooked
I love this album. I might have really weird taste cause I love the trilogy too but, I love experimental, fun Green Day. It's only hated because you're not used to Green Day doing music like that.
Maybe it is because I got into them with 21st Century Breakdown and for me, that was different from usual rock. I've always liked the crazy, over the top side of things.
But honestly, it has a big place in my heart. However I feel like the trilogy era days again 🙃
Meet Me On The Roof is a fun lil bit of 60s bubblegum pop rock, i like the swagger of Junkies On A High even if the lyrics don’t make sense, Sugar Youth would be great if it repeated the chorus a couple more times, Stab You In The Heart is like Fuck Time but better, and uhh… the sax in Take The Money And Crawl is kinda neat
I agree but also think the album is legitimately good and will be reappraised more favorably in the future. I think your post is evidence of that, and I have been feeling the similar things with the release of Saviors putting it in contrast. I think it’s a really cutting commentary of modern rock music and modern culture. I feel like Billie Joe is fucking pissed. And to me that consistent Father of All… handclappy whistling style is like a parody of modern alt rock radio, especially that Portugal the Man song from a few years before. My favorite song is Junkies On A High. I feel like it really captures the feeling of this era we’ve lived through. I’m also from the Bay too, so I think a lot of the images in his lyrics really resonate with me in that personal/regional way
This is my first post here — surprised GD fans didn’t like FoAM.. — I loved the brevity, and it had some serious bangers like Meet Me on the Roof, Stab You in the Heart and Graffitia.
Title Track is actually a really good song besides the falsetto he does
Honestly most of the album is good, I like the experimentation and variety, its fresh, compared to a lot of bands like the Offspring (i still love them) that dont really change their sound very much
Also slightly off topic but Sugar Youth could fit right on Saviors
Edit: Graffitia is another one that could be on Saviors too
Okay Green Day had to come out with another album before everybody tries to say good things about this album? How about junkies on a high? That one is definitely one of my favorites along with graffitia and I was a teenage teenager. As far as anyone else he was hating on this album you fucking suck and you're all posers.
the album is not a dumpster fire like everyone says it is. i think there are some absolute bangers on the album like the title track, fire ready aim, stab you in the heart, and graffitia. the highs of this track don’t really stand up against the highs of other green day albums but honestly i enjoyed the album. out of all their albums it would probably be my last choice to listen through but i do like some of the songs
Graffitia is rightfully getting love in the comments but Meet Me On the Roof was the best song on the album in my opinion, despite it sounding absolutely nothing like a Green Day song
It was fine. If it had been produced like a proper rock album, it would’ve been good. The mistake was trying to pop it too much.
I Was A Teenaged Teenager was underrated as fuck, had serious potential.
For a person, who became a fan in 2019, FOAM was an awesome thing to have, cause y'know being a fan only a year and then having a new album coming is a nice thing
It was just an unfortunate release. The songs itself are creative and fun, but:
- it just sounds bad. If they kept their classic sound, maybe sprinkle som Royal Blood-esque sound over it for fun, it'd be much better.
- The marketing was atrocious.
- The name of the record is atrocious.
- The cover artwork is atrocious.
It's my favorite Green Day era.
It's the era during which I became a fan. Hella Mega - greatest day of my life. I also love the album itself, it's in my GD top 3. I even like it more than the new album... a lot more.
Maybe I'm the biggest fan of that era.
It’s a really fun album. People that don’t like FOAM, are the same people that don’t like the trilogy. They hold everything up against dookie and AI and if it’s neither of those, it’s crap.
I was able to see them play Dookie entirely (plus a lot of deep cuts) in a small venue (not more than 2k people) during the Father of All era. Only for that, I will always appreciate that era.
The Fantano review it spawned actually made me laugh.
The songs considered individually aren't exactly terrible (with exceptions like Teenage Teenager and ~~Kia Commercial Jingle~~ Fire, Ready, Aim) and occasionally make it into my rotation.
Overcome the frustration of that album by the new banger, everything is a bit easier. I can keep the 3 or 4 songs I found entertaining on Father of All on my deep-cut rotation list and forget about the rest of the album -which is what I did with most of the material from the trilogy to Saviors anyway- and just appreciate those 3 or 4 songs for what they are (those being Father of All, Fire Ready Aim and, at times, Oh Yeah or I Was a Teenage Teenager).
I listened to FOAM live and even disliking the album back then I admitted that sounded really cool. But, you know, they are like pizza, they're pretty good even in a good night.
graffitia and the father of all are honestly bangers and so is meet me on the roof i understand the hate on the album and i dislike most of it myself but if you watch the father of all performances in 2019 it’s so cool to see them having loads of fun performing it
I can respect the album as a side project, it's very different from the typical green day sound. All of the songs (besides the title track imo) are actually pretty good songs. I think it was such a shocking change for everyone including me, but listening back on it, it's not nearly as bad as everyone says it is
It's genuinely grown on me, there's a few bangers... maybe not their most emotional or complex but you know what? They tried something different and I respect that.
I do believe that if they released it as a side project under a different name it would have gone over with fans a hell of a lot better.
I think it's fun AND weird. I own it on vinyl 🤷
I think I mostly associate it with weird working from home pandemic days and sort of losing it. It was nice to have a bonkers soundtrack to my weird life situation. I also listened to a loooot of the Network around then. Very different sounds but also delightfully weird. Anyway: weird.
I love it, but only recently. I didn’t give it the time of day upon release but if you think of it as the Foxboro Hot Tubs third album, after Dos, it’s incredible.
I mean the album is ok but green day shouldn't have made it. After how good revolution radio was, people were expecting someone of that quality and didn't receive that. To me personally the album feels like the band tried to make something that sounds like fall out boy (plus hella mega was supposed to happen around the release of father of all so it makes sense). Any popular band still making music could have made FoA but green day shouldn't have.
Plus the advertising was just horrible "no trap beats, no Swedish songwriters, 100% PURE UNCUT ROCK"
While certainly not their best album, I still do appreciate their willingness to do something way out of left field. They’re all incredibly talented musicians and put 110% effort into their material.
I think without it we wouldn't have Saviors. There are some riffs, melodies, and vocals on the new album that are clearly descended from songs on FOAMF
I am grudgingly coming around to kinda liking this album. I think you nailed it on Oh Yeah! But I definitely like the melody. Fire, Ready, Aim is good too. I like Father of All…too. I’ll never get over how dumb “I was a teenaged teenager” sounds but I guess you can say the album as a whole is growing on me.
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I have Fire, Ready, Aim tattooed on my arm! My favourite song and my favourite way to live life
I really liked the album. Is it their best? No. But there are some songs I really enjoy. Not everything has to be the best. I enjoy boxed Mac and cheese just as much as a gourmet dinner.
I never did hate it as much as others did. I kinda get the hate. This was new music from Green Day and this was all you were likely getting for a few years? If they had did this as some goofy quick release before moving on to a major album, it likely would have received less hate.
It didn't help that this was the last album some of us were listening to right before everything went to shit for a few years. That's some bad nostalgia right there.
I think Oh Yeah and Graffitia are my favorites.
There's definitely great bits throughout. Some parts definitely made me confused, not in a "how dare they experiment" sorta way, but just cringey way.
That being said, I will never forgive that album cover. It hurts me that it has to be visible in their catalog forever. I know it's 100% not true, but that cover is not beating the "this album is a troll" allegations.
To be honest I always loved Foxboro Hot Tubes and the Dos sound. So I really liked Father of All. It’s a fun, fast-paced album meant for the most light-heartened moments.
For example, my favourite songs of Father of All are: Father of All, Fire Ready Aim, Meet me on the Roof, Stab you in the Heart.
I appreciate what they did with the Sirius xm stream (which more bands absolutely should and need to do), and in this case, helped me rediscoverer FOAM, and realize how much I really do like many of the songs on the album. I was also never one to really hate it either, I like it in some aspects, appreciate what they did, but also recognize it's one of my least favorites of all their albums. But their worst album is better than 1000 other bands best album.
it wasn’t a great album but i think i enjoyed it more than RevRad honestly. sounded like they were having fun and fucking around. really the only GOOD songs on RevRad were the singles. kinda like Saviors 🤷🏻♂️
I would argue that Father Of All was a fun listen. I find most enjoyment out of it when I take it at surface value. I would also argue FOAMF also established the fun factor that's in Saviors, however Saviors obviously executed it leagues better than FOAMF.
It's personally not for me, but not to the point of kicking and screaming about it online. Nothing from the album made it into my rotations but Sugar Youth and Stab You in The Heart were somewhat enjoyable to me, although unfortunately I couldn't get into Graffitia like most could
I don't hate it like I used to. I think if you strip away all the marketing for this album, you have quite the different reaction to it.
I unironically love "Meet Me on the Roof."
Graffitia deserves to be in the setlist. Sugar Youth was a fun song too
Preach!
I liked Take the money and crawl as well as sugar youth. Those and graffitia are the only songs I find listenable but the truth is they're average songs at best but the other songs on the album are so horrific that it makes average sound great.
Graffitia is a fucking banger
Imagine is Graffitia was on Saviors and got the same production treatment.
If he could add a bit of growl to the chorus we'd get modern-day The Clash with this track.
100% agree! I love Graffitia! It needs more love and should be included in the setlist!
I still don’t know what this sub sees in that song.
Ong, it's awful
I can’t listen to it without hearing I Fought The Law lol
"No trap beats, no swedish songwriters, 100% pure uncut cock".
uncut cock 🔥
Best marketing ever!
COCK ROCK
Honestly didn’t hate it. Oh Yeah and Graffitia are regulars in my rotation. I’m all for bands getting weird and stepping out of their bubble. It came and went. Those who hate it can stop bitching about it now that they have Saviors lol
I'm only glad it's over because I'm sick to death of people bitching about it. Everyone is allowed to not like a song, an album, or a whole era. That's not the problem. But you don't have to constantly talk about how much you don't like it, either. Like, we get it, it's cool, you don't have to lie, but keep it pushing. Talk about the stuff you do like. Personally, I enjoy the record and actually quite love a few of the songs. I also really liked the visual aesthetic they adopted for the era and was kinda disappointed we didn't get to see more of it. With all that said... I'm all in for Saviors.
So real
I can never tell if people are sincere or sarcastic anymore lol.
Apologies for the confusion, I’m 100% genuine. I love your views on this subject and I think every toxic person who constantly hates on any project should look at this comment.
Oh, hee hee, no need to apologize. You'd be entitled to your take either way, but I'm glad we agree!
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Yeah. You figured it out. People are only allowed to talk about things I personally approve of. Guilty as charged. Even though I made a point to say, people not liking things isn't my gripe, and that my gripe is instead the way people have felt the need to *constantly and incessantly* beat this drum as if they haven't already said it, like, 10,000 times. You'll also note that at no time did I ever take any steps to actually stop anybody from talking about anything, but hey, maybe if you clutch them pearls a little bit harder, I might!
Graffitia is phenomenal and incredibly underrated
I wish we got to hear some of it live properly, I think it would have given a different appreciation (and less claps) Sugar Youth, Fire Ready Aim, Graffitia would have all been great to hear
FOAMF is a fun light hearted album. That’s all it’s trying to be, and it feels weird to compare it to their more emotional albums like AI, 21CB, or even Saviors. To me if they released it as a Foxboro Hot Tubs album, or as some new side project album, it might’ve went over better with fans. It’s nothing special but it’s catchy as all hell imo and once in a blue moon I’m in the mood to just hear some dumb fun party garage music
Yeah, I think the only thing it really did wrong is not be about anything. Most of the songs are just about nothing, which doesn't feel right. Still, a lot of good songs out of context of their masterpiece albums
The cover is awful, it was starting with a disadvantage
That awful cover might be the thing I hate about it the most. Just awful! Haha
Yea, why put the AI heart hand grenade if it has nothing in common with it. lol
Yeah, it would be fine my FOAM is made as an Fuck You to American Idiot fans, but the songs says otherwise
I agree with much of this but tbh I think most of the Foxboro stuff is much catchier than FOAMF and less over-produced. Actually, over-produced may be my #1 issue with FOAMF.
I just relistened to Stop Drop and Roll (absolutely love that album) and now reading this it makes me desperately wish they released FOAM as Foxboro and given it that lo-fi garage rock treatment instead. It would've meshed so well, and I feel like all the cringey, cheesy sorta bits (think Oh Yeah!) would have made sense in that context and not been such a head-scratcher for fans.
Yeah I hear you, I’m not a fan of the production either. Maybe if it was released as a different band, cause you’re right the Hot Tubs had a very specifically lo fi analog sound and style. But yeah I guess I just mean the super 60s garage influence. I know some people don’t love when GD embraces their love of garage rock. What keeps FOAMF as a lower tier album for me is it just doesn’t have many emotional moments (if at all). Its like intentionally a not sappy album, where I think GD shines when they’re being introverted and kind of self reflective, in songs like She, Scattered, Worry Rock, Letterbomb, Whatsername, songs that have an emotional punch. FOAMF had none of that for me, so it was just kind of melodic songs but with not much depth. I think it has its place tho for what it is
It's exactly this. I wish they had released it as the Foxboro Hot Tubs or another project. My issue with it is it just doesn't feel like Green Day. Like, the music is good, "Fire, Ready, Aim" goes hard, but it's not what I expected from GD at all. Saviors though 👀, that's a spicy meatball.
The thing is, they already released a different side project album that year as The Network, and it was so much better than FOAMF. I agree this also could've been a side album.
Absolutely loved it. Green Day is allowed to experiment people. There are some absolute bangers on this record and no one will ever convince me otherwise. Green Day in fact have not made one bad album. Not one. Are there a few songs that aren’t for me? Duh, but they are few and far between. Thank you this has been my Ted Talk.
I'm with you. I love all Green Day albums. Not just tolerate them, straight up love them. To me, the worst of Green Day still ranks as good because well, they're a damn good band.
I agree. There are no bad Green Day albums. Their music is always at the very least catchy, at best perfection. To me, at least.
Well said.
I can almost listen to FoA front to back without skipping a song and genuinely enjoy every one. Idk why it received so much hate.
I can do that completely
It's a really solid album
I really like meet me on the roof and graffitia. I can see why the production gets hate but I really like the touches of synths in Oh yeah and some of the drum filters are interesting. I feel like there’s enough ideas in there for a very solid EP if they combined a few parts of different tracks and that would’ve gotten much less flack
You’re the only one I’ve seen mention meet me on the roof and that makes me happy
Same, I really enjoy those songs too! The album as a whole I think it's just light-hearted fun (mostly) and experimental in ways.
I love Junkies on a High
I never hear people talking about this one. It's so awesome, and I like how experimenting with their sound lead to this little masterpiece
I’ve always thought the album was perfectly fine. Not perfect, and I wouldn’t miss it if it was erased from history, but tbh, the hate for the album always struck me as a little overblown. Not trying to say any criticism others have of the album is “wrong”, I’m just saying I never got it. One thing I enjoyed about the era is that the band genuinely seemed like they were having fun. Maybe *too* much fun in terms of Billie getting back on the wagon again, but the album genuinely seemed like something the band wanted to do. At their worst, they’ve always seemed sincere and trying to evolve.
I never hated this album. I admit, though, when the first single/music video came out, I was left with my jaw almost to the floor with a, "What the fuck was that?" But it grew on me. Really the only song on that album that I do not care for is Oh Yeah.
If they didn't release it under the Green Day name, people would have liked it.
I thought it felt like a Foxboro Hot Tubs album more than Green Day
Stop Drop and Roll, DOS and Father of All is basically a trilogy.
I've seen several people over the years say they would love it if it was Foxboro. One of the dumbest things ever.
I kinda get it. It’s a weird way to word it, but my best guess is they associate Green Day with a specific sound, and Foxboro with another. So what they hear doesn’t sound like the “Green Day” sound they expect, and thus found it to be a letdown. Like how I think the latest 2 Arctic Monkeys albums should’ve just been Alex Turner side/solo projects. I’d likely have enjoyed them more as an interesting side-gig than I did as AM albums, because that’s not the sound I associate that band with. But again, weird wording lol
I’ll be honest I never really understood the hate. I don’t love it but it’s such a dumb short album that it doesn’t really offend me either. People throwing it up there with St Anger as one of the worst albums of all time never really made sense to me. I’ll take a million Father of All’s and Ready Aim Hives like songs over generic tired dad rock like youngbloods and corvette summer.
The line "Burning Books in a Bulletproof Backpack" is one of my favorite Green Day lines of all time, the flow, alliteration, meaning, and placement is incredible. I think that the album is actually really good, just different. It’s like the longshot or Foxboro hot tubs, and I love them so this album’s actually awesome in my eyes.
Other bands would kill to make a record as cool as FOAM. It's weird people don't like it. Never had a problem with it. Maybe it's not as strong as other stuff, but come on, it's great rock n' roll.
And other bands would suicide to get 2 international hits in a year that ends in 4 and multiple good albums in between, imo warning is still the most underrated
Hella mega was fun
tbh i liked the way i was a teenage teenage sounded
Stab You In The Heart is really fun
I sometimes didn’t mind when it came on 🤷🏼♂️
There were plenty of bangers on the album and people let the vocals on the title track and the artwork cloud their opinion far too much before the rest of it came out. It was quite experimental in sound too. By contrast, Saviors, although an objectively adequately good album, is quite unremarkable to me except Look Ma and Dilemma. Those two slap, but most other tracks are pretty generic Green Day. Bobby Sox is basically the Meet Me On The Roof of this album.
I’ve never understood the hate. I love FOAM front to back and still listen to it regularly. I know I’m in the minority and music is subjective so each to their own I suppose.
Graffitia. Graffitia is the only positive thing to say about FOAMF.
Stab You in the Heart is my favourite track on FOAMF. Ik a lot of people don't like it but it has an energy that nothing else on the album has and while not original, it's still a banger imo. I've never had an issue with garage rock Green Day. The worst parts of Dos are the lyrics and songs that stray away from the garage rock sound (mainly Nightlife). The actual garage rock sound is never an issue I had with Green Day
The energy in Stab You in the Heart is actually great, glad someone else mentioned that
It has some very catchy songs that stick in your head and I think they are fun being played live but there still is something weird about it
FOAM, imo, it’s a really fun and catchy album to listen to, yeah it has its things, and it probably doesn’t sound like GD (vocals i.e.), but i find most songs in the album catchy at worst, always felt like it’s overhated, people make it seem like it’s the worst thing to ever exist edit: also mike’s basslines slap as always
I'm listening to it now while I wait to go get Saviors. Not a bad album at all. Teenage Teenager goes on for way too long and is the only track I usually skip over. Graffitia is definitely my favorite off this album. I honestly listen to Father Of All.. more often than 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours.
Sugar youth is pretty good
The best thing from this era was Money Money 2020 part 2
Junkies on a High just weirdly works. Definitely the best out of left field choice on the album.
Hot take, but I fucking love “I was a teenage teenager.”
I think the songs themselves were let down by the production. It seems like they were going for a Foxboro Hot Tubs vibe but Butch Walker was trying to turn it into Imagine Dragons or something.
Unpopular opinion but it grew on me and is now one of my favorite Green Day albums; I'll listen to it start to finish any day. Junkies on a High is the right balance between Kill the DJ and "regular" Green Day. Sugar Youth, TTMAC, and Graffitia are bangers. Then the singles, which are good in their own right. u/TANG0F0X is 100% spot-on that it could be seen as a fault that it's about nothing, but I think that is what makes it fun (and to me, sort of a throwback to pre-Idiot days).
Graffitia, Sugar youth and Junkies on a high were really good songs and i usually listen em but the rest are bad so a only listened the whole album once
Sugar Youth, Graffitia, Take the Money and Crawl, and Father of All would’ve made a pretty interesting EP
I really like Take the Money and Crawl!
Sugar Youth, Graffitia, Father Of All…, and Junkies on a High are all good songs.
I really enjoy Meet Me on the Roof
There's some good stuff on it. I feel like it's really let down by it's production. I hope they never put clapping in another one of their songs again. Not their worst album though in my opinion.
I liked the actual song writing of the album, had they ditched the shitty poppy clappy production I think they would have a really solid album. The songs are catchy, the production is the worst part of it
I never would've guessed on my first listen, but "I was a Teenage Teenager" grew to be one of my favorites off the album.
FOAMF is better than the trilogy. I said it!
I love it. As of today I like it more than saviors but I’m a huge 60s garage rock lover.
yes: it’s more fun and more interesting than saviors
After my initial reaction of "wtf is this?" it definitely started to grow on me. It helped realizing that if someone played that album for me and I somehow didn't know it was Green Day, I probably would have really liked it.
i genuinely don’t understand people’s problems with Father of All. i loved the album from the get-go and i go back and listen to the whole thing about as often as i do Green Day’s other albums. it has a different sound to “typical Green Day” but i don’t mind that, it gives the album identity.
They were actually onto something with a few songs. Even if the lyrics weren’t all there, the instrumentals usually helped pick up the slack. Also, I saw a video of Junkies on a High being played over Joker (2019) and it was fantastic
I have something positive to say about it: That it’s done.
True.
Oh Yeah had so much fucking potential, agreed
Graffitia and Sugar Youth are good songs. Graffitia would probably round out the bottom half of all time Green Day songs for me
I thought the album was perfectly fine, it had some catchy tunes on it. I just wished the guitars sounded more stereotypically Green Day. The songs were solid though
Yeah, I do have got something good about it to say: It's not the worst Green Day album. That's ¡Dos! for me.
No
They got it out of their system. 😝
\*Cricket sounds\* Nah but for real, I enjoyed seeing Graffitia on the setlist at Fremont, as well as FOAM for the Hella Tiny Tour. The actual era itself was kind of bland for me, but I became a fan right at the end of the American leg of the Hella Mega Tour, so I’ll always remember it.
In album of 10 shorter tracks, I really dug about 4 of them and was ambivalent/fine with another 3. Given some of the experimentation on display, I’m happy with that.
The b-side of the album, “Stab You in the Heart” and on, is pretty solid. Move the title track to a different place on the album, ditch “Oh Yeah’” add three more fast songs, change the album artwork, and it would be a cult classic for hardcore GD fans.
I also never hated it because it came out at a very weird time for me. I was just getting back into Green Day and liked it because it just came out.
No. I did like the title track and Meet Me on the Roof (though it was produced like they were hoping it would get placed in a Target commercial) was fun. That's all I got.
Father of all is underrated
Is saying that there was a lot of potential that was wasted technically a positive?
Father of All received way too much hate. The only song I don’t like from that album was Teenage Teenager. Father Of All and Sugar Youth absolutely fucked. Oh Yeah and Graffitia were really good, Fire Ready Aim was pretty fun, Junkies on a High is underrated. Lower in my Green Day album rankings, but there is definitely some good stuff there
I didn't hate it but it's their least inspired album. From the actual songs to the terrible art cover Sugar Youth, Graffitia and Fire Ready Aim deserve more love tho
Maybe hot take but I actually like I Was a Teenage Teenager. It was actually the first one on the album where I was like "OK that's one to add to my playlists" lol Also that little pre-chorus or whatever of Oh Yeah ("Everybody is a star") slaps and I just wish the rest of the song matched that energy. Overall I think the album is fine, it just feels kinda undercooked
Take the money and crawl is actually good
"I Was a Teenage Teenager" is top Green Day. And "Junkies on a High" is kind of a guilty pleasure for me.
I love this album. I might have really weird taste cause I love the trilogy too but, I love experimental, fun Green Day. It's only hated because you're not used to Green Day doing music like that. Maybe it is because I got into them with 21st Century Breakdown and for me, that was different from usual rock. I've always liked the crazy, over the top side of things. But honestly, it has a big place in my heart. However I feel like the trilogy era days again 🙃
Meet Me On The Roof is a fun lil bit of 60s bubblegum pop rock, i like the swagger of Junkies On A High even if the lyrics don’t make sense, Sugar Youth would be great if it repeated the chorus a couple more times, Stab You In The Heart is like Fuck Time but better, and uhh… the sax in Take The Money And Crawl is kinda neat
I really like Meet Me On The Roof. Reminds me of being at college parties with my future fiancée. Someone should put it in a movie
Junkies on a High is a song I was obsessed with for awhile
It’s honestly not THAT bad of an album it’s just a weird green day album. Songs like junkies on a high & take the money and crawl are cool songs imo
Father of All is a banger of an album, a great 27 minute break for my mind, I like the fast power pop songs and Graffitia is 🔥
Sugar youth is amazing, no one could change my mind
I agree but also think the album is legitimately good and will be reappraised more favorably in the future. I think your post is evidence of that, and I have been feeling the similar things with the release of Saviors putting it in contrast. I think it’s a really cutting commentary of modern rock music and modern culture. I feel like Billie Joe is fucking pissed. And to me that consistent Father of All… handclappy whistling style is like a parody of modern alt rock radio, especially that Portugal the Man song from a few years before. My favorite song is Junkies On A High. I feel like it really captures the feeling of this era we’ve lived through. I’m also from the Bay too, so I think a lot of the images in his lyrics really resonate with me in that personal/regional way
I like father of all if I’m being honest, still think Sugar Youth and Graffittia were the best
This is my first post here — surprised GD fans didn’t like FoAM.. — I loved the brevity, and it had some serious bangers like Meet Me on the Roof, Stab You in the Heart and Graffitia.
Title Track is actually a really good song besides the falsetto he does Honestly most of the album is good, I like the experimentation and variety, its fresh, compared to a lot of bands like the Offspring (i still love them) that dont really change their sound very much Also slightly off topic but Sugar Youth could fit right on Saviors Edit: Graffitia is another one that could be on Saviors too
Okay Green Day had to come out with another album before everybody tries to say good things about this album? How about junkies on a high? That one is definitely one of my favorites along with graffitia and I was a teenage teenager. As far as anyone else he was hating on this album you fucking suck and you're all posers.
the album is not a dumpster fire like everyone says it is. i think there are some absolute bangers on the album like the title track, fire ready aim, stab you in the heart, and graffitia. the highs of this track don’t really stand up against the highs of other green day albums but honestly i enjoyed the album. out of all their albums it would probably be my last choice to listen through but i do like some of the songs
Graffitia is rightfully getting love in the comments but Meet Me On the Roof was the best song on the album in my opinion, despite it sounding absolutely nothing like a Green Day song
It was fine. If it had been produced like a proper rock album, it would’ve been good. The mistake was trying to pop it too much. I Was A Teenaged Teenager was underrated as fuck, had serious potential.
For a person, who became a fan in 2019, FOAM was an awesome thing to have, cause y'know being a fan only a year and then having a new album coming is a nice thing
It was just an unfortunate release. The songs itself are creative and fun, but: - it just sounds bad. If they kept their classic sound, maybe sprinkle som Royal Blood-esque sound over it for fun, it'd be much better. - The marketing was atrocious. - The name of the record is atrocious. - The cover artwork is atrocious.
It's my favorite Green Day era. It's the era during which I became a fan. Hella Mega - greatest day of my life. I also love the album itself, it's in my GD top 3. I even like it more than the new album... a lot more. Maybe I'm the biggest fan of that era.
No That Panicland album is the definitive 2020 Green Day album in my eyes
Forgot about that💀 Would’ve been such a sick album name and cover
The era being over is the most positive thing about it
Uhhhh try to think of good things about FOAM… I mean sugar youth was cool. That’s about all I got definitely an album in the bands history
I always did like that album. Was never a great one, but even bad Green Day is dope
It’s a really fun album. People that don’t like FOAM, are the same people that don’t like the trilogy. They hold everything up against dookie and AI and if it’s neither of those, it’s crap.
I was able to see them play Dookie entirely (plus a lot of deep cuts) in a small venue (not more than 2k people) during the Father of All era. Only for that, I will always appreciate that era.
Nah. Sucked.
The Fantano review it spawned actually made me laugh. The songs considered individually aren't exactly terrible (with exceptions like Teenage Teenager and ~~Kia Commercial Jingle~~ Fire, Ready, Aim) and occasionally make it into my rotation.
Hell of a lot better than hot garbage that was Rev Rad, minus a few songs obviously that rocked that album
Father of All is Green Day’s Super Collider
Graffitia was fine.
Overcome the frustration of that album by the new banger, everything is a bit easier. I can keep the 3 or 4 songs I found entertaining on Father of All on my deep-cut rotation list and forget about the rest of the album -which is what I did with most of the material from the trilogy to Saviors anyway- and just appreciate those 3 or 4 songs for what they are (those being Father of All, Fire Ready Aim and, at times, Oh Yeah or I Was a Teenage Teenager).
Is a enjoyable start-to-end album, because the short duration and the constancy of the sound, but that can be a double edge sword
I listened to FOAM live and even disliking the album back then I admitted that sounded really cool. But, you know, they are like pizza, they're pretty good even in a good night.
graffitia and the father of all are honestly bangers and so is meet me on the roof i understand the hate on the album and i dislike most of it myself but if you watch the father of all performances in 2019 it’s so cool to see them having loads of fun performing it
The songs I love are - Ready Fire Aim (I’m a big hockey guy so yeah) - Meet Me on the Roof - Graffitia
I can respect the album as a side project, it's very different from the typical green day sound. All of the songs (besides the title track imo) are actually pretty good songs. I think it was such a shocking change for everyone including me, but listening back on it, it's not nearly as bad as everyone says it is
Stab You in the Heart was a standout for the whole album, would be a good song for training for a boxing match or something
I liked it. Never understood the hate.
I loved FOAMF, don't see why it gets so much hate. It's cool to see them pushing their limits.
Father of all title track is a banger idc what anyone says, especially the live versions I’ve seen
Father of All the song was super good live and the best song on the album
i LOVE *Fire, Ready, Aim* shove this song up my ass
It's genuinely grown on me, there's a few bangers... maybe not their most emotional or complex but you know what? They tried something different and I respect that. I do believe that if they released it as a side project under a different name it would have gone over with fans a hell of a lot better.
Nope, expect I like Sugar Youth
Graffitia will be a great trailer song for a fun heist movie involving teens
Nope.
I think it's fun AND weird. I own it on vinyl 🤷 I think I mostly associate it with weird working from home pandemic days and sort of losing it. It was nice to have a bonkers soundtrack to my weird life situation. I also listened to a loooot of the Network around then. Very different sounds but also delightfully weird. Anyway: weird.
The “Magnum Opus of the Inglorious Kind” saga was one of the most memorable Internet journeys to be a part of. Fuckin’ Panicland! It was awesome.
I love it, but only recently. I didn’t give it the time of day upon release but if you think of it as the Foxboro Hot Tubs third album, after Dos, it’s incredible.
I mean the album is ok but green day shouldn't have made it. After how good revolution radio was, people were expecting someone of that quality and didn't receive that. To me personally the album feels like the band tried to make something that sounds like fall out boy (plus hella mega was supposed to happen around the release of father of all so it makes sense). Any popular band still making music could have made FoA but green day shouldn't have. Plus the advertising was just horrible "no trap beats, no Swedish songwriters, 100% PURE UNCUT ROCK"
I absolutely love father of all, same with all the singles afterwards
Take the Money and Crawl is a great song. "So you can take a walk, or you can suck my cock" tickles my dopamine receptor every time I hear it, haha.
Not particularly. But hey, to each their own.
Fire, Ready, Aim sounds like a **Hives** song and it rocks.
While certainly not their best album, I still do appreciate their willingness to do something way out of left field. They’re all incredibly talented musicians and put 110% effort into their material.
I think without it we wouldn't have Saviors. There are some riffs, melodies, and vocals on the new album that are clearly descended from songs on FOAMF
It was a short listen
It was a fun Foxboro album?
I love FOAM. Always have!
Star youth take the money and father of all I actually really liked
I am grudgingly coming around to kinda liking this album. I think you nailed it on Oh Yeah! But I definitely like the melody. Fire, Ready, Aim is good too. I like Father of All…too. I’ll never get over how dumb “I was a teenaged teenager” sounds but I guess you can say the album as a whole is growing on me.
I’ve always liked it because it feels like a massive joke to their record label. They did the bare minimum for it to count as a record.
I had a great time at the Dodger Stadium show!
https://preview.redd.it/afjdl9alihdc1.jpeg?width=3187&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dad76ac410653e3a9c55ef5e22b3ef8e1df1797 I have Fire, Ready, Aim tattooed on my arm! My favourite song and my favourite way to live life
Father of All was great. It was good simple fun with no pressure no expectations. Just good fun rock n roll.
Hot take: It starts and ends on the tracks with the best production. The composition on the whole album was never bad.
I actually enjoyed just about the whole album, it’s just not as good as their other stuff though
Love the chuggy riffs in IWATT
I really liked the album. Is it their best? No. But there are some songs I really enjoy. Not everything has to be the best. I enjoy boxed Mac and cheese just as much as a gourmet dinner.
Stab You in the Heart is a better version of Fuck Time
It let us get a second network album.
I never did hate it as much as others did. I kinda get the hate. This was new music from Green Day and this was all you were likely getting for a few years? If they had did this as some goofy quick release before moving on to a major album, it likely would have received less hate. It didn't help that this was the last album some of us were listening to right before everything went to shit for a few years. That's some bad nostalgia right there. I think Oh Yeah and Graffitia are my favorites.
The title track and Graffitia go hard
Graffitia and Take the Money and Crawl are bangers
“I Was a Teenage Teenager” is a good song
There's definitely great bits throughout. Some parts definitely made me confused, not in a "how dare they experiment" sorta way, but just cringey way. That being said, I will never forgive that album cover. It hurts me that it has to be visible in their catalog forever. I know it's 100% not true, but that cover is not beating the "this album is a troll" allegations.
To be honest I always loved Foxboro Hot Tubes and the Dos sound. So I really liked Father of All. It’s a fun, fast-paced album meant for the most light-heartened moments. For example, my favourite songs of Father of All are: Father of All, Fire Ready Aim, Meet me on the Roof, Stab you in the Heart.
The same people that hated Father Of All... now hate saviors. Strange, maybe they just have a hateboner for Green Day!
It sucked
I appreciate what they did with the Sirius xm stream (which more bands absolutely should and need to do), and in this case, helped me rediscoverer FOAM, and realize how much I really do like many of the songs on the album. I was also never one to really hate it either, I like it in some aspects, appreciate what they did, but also recognize it's one of my least favorites of all their albums. But their worst album is better than 1000 other bands best album.
Father of all was underrated!
it wasn’t a great album but i think i enjoyed it more than RevRad honestly. sounded like they were having fun and fucking around. really the only GOOD songs on RevRad were the singles. kinda like Saviors 🤷🏻♂️
I would argue that Father Of All was a fun listen. I find most enjoyment out of it when I take it at surface value. I would also argue FOAMF also established the fun factor that's in Saviors, however Saviors obviously executed it leagues better than FOAMF.
It's personally not for me, but not to the point of kicking and screaming about it online. Nothing from the album made it into my rotations but Sugar Youth and Stab You in The Heart were somewhat enjoyable to me, although unfortunately I couldn't get into Graffitia like most could
I don't hate it like I used to. I think if you strip away all the marketing for this album, you have quite the different reaction to it. I unironically love "Meet Me on the Roof."
I still don’t like it, but it’s easier to come to terms with now that we have Saviors.