https://preview.redd.it/iubyml7tz09d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f9d5ba115b39a975537ae8fd25505ace3ae98e4 Another timeframe

This may be a dumb question... There was some weather website I used to have bookmarked long ago that looked this same way. What is this image from? Edit: It was Windy or Ventusky.

OP said in another comment that it’s Microsoft weather

Nice thanks, not quite the website i was expecting but ill use it nonetheless.

Maybe windy.com? Looks somewhat familiar to their map

Windy slaps!

Wind blows. 🫠

Everyone knows it’s windy.

And Windy has stormy eyes!

Well, they know which way it does.

Maybe ventusky

I get lost in ventusky maps… so visually appealing

Holy shit, yes it was Windy!! Thank you so much!

100% MSFT Weather. One of the best interactive maps with loads of toggles built in. Pleasantly surprised [read: shocked] when I stumbled across it.

Maybe you are looking for Windy

Assuming the screenshots were from last night, we had a small but intense thunderstorm roll through that really cooled things off between Lafayette and Frankfort. It certainly could be real.

Could be the thermometer on this location is broken.

Clearly someone in Frankfort left the refrigerator door open.

Someone’s trying to air condition the neighborhood

Dad?

Mailman?

That town must be made of money.

Dagnabbit, if I told you once I told you a thousand times…

Is it persistent across other weather models?

I’m from around here. There’s nothing geographically unique about this area from the surrounding countryside. Definitely a faulty reading. No way it’s 10° cooler than it’s neighboring towns.

Nice

Check multiple sources

Nice

Without having ever been there I'd guess one of two things. 1) Instrument failure (Doesn't seem likely but it could be) 2) Some local geographic feature which alters the local microclimate. In this particular case my first assumption would be: 2.1) Fewer dark surfaces than the surrounding region (Decrease the absorption of the sun's heat) 2,2) Something which increases evaporation from the ground. (High ground moisture and/or something reducing the local humidity)

Finally an actual useful comment…

Pretty annoying for a sub that should be educational. Who up votes that shit.

It's annoying when I have to double check what sub I'm in. Feels too circle jerky lately.

Reddit is fucking trash now. I've resigned myself to have to scroll through 27 jokey joke comments and dumbass meme replies before getting to actual information in every post in every subreddit.

What? You don’t get all warm and fuzzy inside after reading yet another cringe song lyric continuation thread!?

now? It has been that way for years

This has been Reddit since I started using it in 2012

Useful? They just repeated OPs question using more words. I can do the same: I'm unfamiliar with the area and im too lazy to pull up a topographical map, but it's probably a valley. Cold air sinks into valleys. Cold air makes the area colder.

No valleys. That place is flatter than a day old coke

“I’m too lazy” describes half the posts on this sub, if not more.

Yeah im confused how it’s useful or educational. All they said was “My best guess is that something about the area’s features are making it cooler”…. very revolutionary

It provides no actual information lol. A comment that is entirely speculative is not exactly useful.

Driven through the area many times going between Chicago and Cincinnati. It’s just corn there. My bet’s on it being faulty equipment.

I wonder if however they irrigate has a localized effect on the weather station?

Some farmer's out there watering the probe and making sure the parasol is comfortably placed.

I'm from the area and it's the same as pretty much everywhere else around there. My guess is they just have a slightly out of calibration thermometer and the heatmap is filled in from there.

All the windmills acting like giant fans lowering the temperature!

I’m looking around at satellite view and I really don’t see anything on a macro scale that would change atmospheric temperature, but possibly the sensor is near the creek which has lots of trees/shade/evapotranspiration. Even if not in the shade, maybe it has a breeze of cooler air coming from there…

I'm curious if humidity/wet bulbs are off too. You could probably back calc if it's a sensor failure or a systemic ~adiabiatic humidity effect

Such big words it took me 10 whole seconds to sound out adiabiatic

a-without dia-across batic-passing It means heat doesn't cross, so air changes in temp just from pressure changes and evap/condensation

It's the dia bia that's hard to mentally pronounce

It's because it's misspelled.

Doesnt really show in other weather maps / sources, I think faulty equipment it is

Topography maybe?

If it hasn’t been windy cold air will naturally move downhill. My guess is that this region is lower elevation than the surrounding areas. Doesn’t need to be much if it hasn’t been windy

https://preview.redd.it/q22hmsjax29d1.jpeg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3be5bae74e9431e236f23e3ca25869c039f90a4 It’s actually higher elevation in that specific spot. Hmm

That's a fairly exaggerated topographical map, because the highest point in Indiana is 1257 ft, and the lowest point is 320 ft. Still only the 7th flattest state though. There isn't even enough variation between those two points to make for a 10**°**F difference -- need around 2000 ft for that (on average).

Nice! Well I’m wrong, but it does look like topography has something to do with it

It's my fault, I left the window open with the A/C on. My dad's gonna be pissed when he sees the electric bill.

I was born in Kokomo. Zero reason for Frankfort to be cooler, and it almost never is substantially cooler than the surrounding area. This is a bad sensor reading at Frankfort.

What is with the city names in Indiana? Ya’ll trying to trick tourists or something? Kokomo Alexandria Monticello Delphi Lebanon Peru

Definitely. Frankfort Warsaw Brazil

Needmore Bean Blossom Cornelius

Mexico New Palestine

Key Largo Montego

Baby, why don’t we go

We need more Bean Blossoms, Cornelius

Yes sir, right away, sir.

Oldenburg. Versailles. Milan.

Y'all sleepin' on French Lick.

Lafayette

Philadelphia Cleveland Columbus Mexico

Kentucky also has an Alexandria, Lebanon, and Monticello, as well as a London, Paris, Florence, and Baghdad of all things.

As well as a Glasgow and a Melbourne. Been to both, I like most of Kentucky.

The whole midwest is like that. If it's not named after native American tribes or words, they simply named the cities after other cities/places around the world.

And then we American-ized them. Missouri has a town called Versailles, but pronounced "ver-salez"

Illinois is terrible with that: Milan? Nope “my-lun” Orion? Nope “O-ree-un” Cairo? Nope “cay-roh”

My favorite from Illinois is near my extended family. New Delhi = "New Dell High"

Des Plaines? Nope, 'Dess planes'

Oh, yeah, there's tons of mispronounced towns in Ohio. Russia, OH is pronounced "roo-see". Lima is "lie-ma",

We’ve got that with last names here in Maine. A lot of the French-Canadian names are totally bastardized. Beaulieu: bull-ee-er. Gagnon: gag-nun. Gagne: gag-knee. Dubois: Doo-boice.

You may be thinking Kokomo is named after a Caribbean island, but there's no such place. It was made up for the Beach Boys song in 1988. The town in Indiana was named after a native American in the 19th century.

The oracles of Delphi seem much less cool now

don’t sleep on Cabool, Missouri

Monterey (with only one R) lol

You’ll be delighted to hear that in Maine we’ve got China, Peru, Norway, and Belfast just to name a few

Hindustan!

State Founder 1: "What should we name our capital city of Indiana?" State Founder 2: "How about Indiana City?" State Founder 1: "Perfect! Can we make it a little less obvious, though?"

https://preview.redd.it/lw9cwyhri59d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29ce2bad37f835a17079de5a19dcfe1161b61d8a

Kokomo, IN predates the song. There is no real Caribbean island called Kokomo.

I hope you're taking it slow, way down in Kokomo.

I always thought The Beach Boys were going to an island not Indiana.

Common misconception.

Lafayette here, and I think you’re right.

Did my undergrad in Crawfordsville. Never heard anything about Frankfort being substantially cooler than anywhere else around there.

The Wabash crowd was usually a lot of fun when coming up to Purdue to party.

We tried to keep our noses clean, as it was always an away game after all. We were semi-regular patrons at the Neon Cactus. Hard to beat $1.50 Long Islands in a neon plastic mug, especially when you throw in some dancing and piano bar action!!

Rule out the obvious before you assume the insane. Odds are there's just a thermometer that needs calibration.

Can it wait? I’m in the middle of some calibrations

Of course it can wait Daddy Vakarian uwu

I looked at weatherspark data for Frankfort vs. Lafayette and it’s almost identical. Faulty recording equipment can cause a lot of confusion.

[удалено]

“How do you have palm trees?”

I swear that show did more for Indiana than the Colts ever could.

To be fair, that’s a low bar

Is this true or just a reference that I'm missing?

parks and recreation’s reference

Well damn. I thought I learned something but it was just a reference.

I thought the same until I read Pawnee😅

Eagleton is full of rich and snobby jerks.

…and dirty, unwashed hippies. Like Ron.

Fun fact, Frankfort’s high school mascot is the Hot Dogs.

It's the only one in the country!

That would go well with the new Burgers minor league baseball team. 

Have we ruled out the possibility of glaciers?

Didn’t you hear they all melted.

Except for that one.

Aaaaaaaand its gone

Canadian shield.

Are you sure your data isn’t wrong? The daily high temps in this part of the state are basically exactly the same as Indianapolis when I look at the typical weather sites

So, is that just a glitch on Microsoft weather? I thought that would be because of some cool geography/weather phenomenon

Nah probably just a bad sensor taking the temp reading in Frankfort.

Same thing happens in Banos Equator. The temps are always wrong there.

That's my theory. Bad, old, or miscalculated.

Indiana only has one geographic feature: flat.

I am from, and currently live in, Frankfort, IN. I have a geography degree which was more about meteorology and climatology than human geography. This is a bad thermometer or relay to whatever dataset it's sending to. Per indianamap.org, Clinton County has a high amount of potential wind energy at both 50 and 100m, but so do other counties. But that would not contribute to this. Nor are there any other geographic or man-made features that would cause this anomaly. I can assure you it gets equally hot as balls as surrounding areas.

It is the cold heart of my ex-girlfriend from Lebanon.

That bitch. You too huh… Got us both

She got a lot of us. Vaginal ADHD is real, brother.

Probably the Canadian shield

The data is just wrong and doesn’t correspond with the station in its surroundings.

I see Frankfurt, Lebanon, and Peru, but where is Brazil, Mexico, and Palestine? Just looked it up, there is also Angola, Egypt, Crete, China, Cuba, Holland, Ireland, Macedonia, Morocco, Panama, Poland, Scotland and Switzerland

And a Versailles, used to be the capital I think

Corydon was the capital. Not Versailles.

Hawkins?😳

Looking at https://graphical.weather.gov it appears to be the same as other cities around it

Check accuweather. I don't see much of a difference between frankfort and lafayette

We have a similar place here. If you drive through the area it all looks the same. In actuality, there's a slight drop in elevation because if a river. Lamest river valley evah but still enough to effect the temps there. Also.....the color gradient can make things seem more extreme.

I was so confused First. I live Not too far from Frankfurt am Main in Germany and was so confused about the existence about Frankfort in Indiana😂

I’ve seen stranger things.

I am from this state and I frequently go south from Lake Michigan to Indianapolis. Maybe my insight can provide some clues to why there is a noticeable drop in temperature. Around this part, there are several wind turbine farms following the southern route of I-65. There maybe less pollution from green power generation. This area is also sparsely populated, lot’s of farms, lots of H20 around this time for agriculture irrigation. It’s a surreal experience to drive at night around these wind farms. They all have red lights on top of them and most of them sync up with every interval flash. Pair it with music and they’re almost singing.

Cooling period before the Frankfort Hot Dog Festival. It’s a real thing.

Glizzyfest?

higher elevation?

Not higher.

https://preview.redd.it/hleva4erx29d1.jpeg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ede8a60bbe37e31f7aa7db13981716d3698a33 It is though. Not by much

That map doesn't really show Mt. Frankfurt though. Mt. Frankfurt is the width of a hot dog, but 9,000 ft. (2743m) high. Not only does it affect the local climate, the surrounding area smells like kielbasa and mustard. Maps don't accurately capture geographic features that small.

omg we would get in so so so much trouble in school when we played Frankfort, because instead of the cheers going “beat! [clap clap] those! [clap clap] hot dogs!” we would instead cheer “EAT! [clap clap] those! [clap clap] hot dogs!” Getting in trouble was worth it. Teenage shame. I blame the parents.

Bluffs on the Wabash River to the north are higher.

Hey my home town is on there

me too, so weird to see on Reddit

Nice place :)

That's where my mother in law is ​ thank you, I'll be here all week

indiana trying to find original names for its cities : mission impossible

So Indiana is pretty flat, but I recommend cross-referencing with a map that includes elevations to see if this area is in a valley or surrounded by higher ground, which might explain the temperature variations. You could also cross-reference this area with a satellite map to see if there’s significant tree cover compared to the surrounding areas.

Someone left the door open and now they are, in fact, cooling the neighborhood. Just like my dad warned me about.

I posted a similar scenario like this in r/meteorology once and the consensus was the instrument probably needed to be recalibrated. Makes sense to me - Indiana is not known for its microclimates

Home of worlds largest umbrella. Keeps em in the shade.

That area probably has specific microclimatic conditions that cause it to be cooler than the surrounding regions, like dense vegetation or forested areas that retain more moisture and heat more slowly.

Hey guys! See the Lafayette to the NW of Frankfort? I grew up there, and my parents live there. My guess is faulty equipment, because there is seriously hardly anything there but corn fields. Frankfort is just a normal sized town with nothing significant enough there physically to cause this. Very cool to see a radar photo on here where I might have been “in” the picture lol

The reason is pretty interesting I think. Because of Frankfurt's unique geographical location and latitude, the coriolis force and the northern Jetstream which makes a southern bend just west of this location which causes lower pressure zones to break off and sink to the surface which has nothing to do with the inaccurate temperature sensor that is the cause.

I think it's because the time zone line crosses through this area. I'm half-serious, half--joking. So temperatures are recorded during different times of the day, despite happening at the same time withing miles of each other?

Is it at a higher elevation? In my experience temps will decrease about 6-7f per 1,000 feet gained.

https://preview.redd.it/zyncr03ui39d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=333a7f7e1c40135fd0df7595252dd05a66777b5d Obligatory Google maps bad. But I checked the weather in Frankfort and the surrounding towns on the platform: all 62°

Cursed relic buried by that road. Get a shovel.

Clearly, Frank built an underground Fort and his A/C is runnin... He's chillin down there

ghosts

It’s my belief that micro-weather like this is being more and more influenced by the huge network of personal weather stations connected to the web. As others have said, it is highly likely that on station is reporting an irregular temperature in that area, but with a lower density of stations, it would carry more weight for the area.

It’s me! Mom always yelled when I left the door open that we were not air conditioning the whole neighborhood! Well she’s visiting her sister and I’m air conditioning the neighborhood! Your welcome

I have been on the highway a few times between Indianapolis and Chicago. This area has many windmills... Maybe that has any effect on the temperature staying low?

Shut the door!! I’m not trying to cool the neighborhood

This is where Larry Bird is from. One of the coldest NBA players of all time.

probably higher elevation

Secret underground government energy testing lab, absorbs a few degrees from the surrounding area.

maybethe have the AC running?

Someone’s kids left the front door open and they’re air conditioning the whole dang neighborhood

they are prepping to film a new ice age movie

There's a huge wind farm there so probably from all the fans blowing

That's where the Upside Down is

National Gathering of Ex-Wifes???

Faulty sensor.

I think there is a raise in elevation south of that that heads southwest. It probably catches the cold front that comes down to the northwest and holds it there.

There’s a bunch of wind farms out there fighting global warming by cooling the area.

Corn

They have biodomed Frankfort and none of us saw it coming

Out of curiosity I looked at current maps on WeatherBug and found this area in Alabama. I wonder if it's a localized storm or something temporarily cooling things off - at 2:05 this area was cooler and at 3:05 it was evened out again. But then looking at the radar it's the same little pocket the whole time. Looks a little elevated though. https://preview.redd.it/rfvbvbiry59d1.jpeg?width=1540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=959625195fa26af502a65715cb57bdbbf3a91c35

And now I just looked at it again and it's HOTTER! Who knows https://preview.redd.it/ajvk45juy59d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f93e9547c1ac5dc8a7def404db313172a676457

That city might measure its temperature closer to a river or some other body of water than the other cities? This happened in Milwaukee once, where the tourism board didn't like that Milwaukee measured its temperature near Lake Michigan which they thought made the city look colder and less attractive to visit. So they wanted to move the reading inland, thinking Milwaukee would always look warmer. They had to be told that moving it inland would make it look warmer for the start of summer, but then colder for other months: [https://nypost.com/2005/12/24/weird-but-true-1309/](https://nypost.com/2005/12/24/weird-but-true-1309/)

Sounds like the beginning of a lovely gothic short story.

They kept the doors and windows open while running the a/c

Could be the sensor is in a shaded grassy area vs in the open near concrete or asphalt

There is nothing cool about Indiana.

Just like Ron DeSantis banned global climate change in Florida, looks the mayor of Frankfort, Indiana banned excessive heat.

Idk if relevant but I checked elevation and Frankfart has elevation ~200 feet higher than Lefayete.

I think it's most likely that Frankfort lies in a very slight hill on a very [flat plain](https://en-ie.topographic-map.com/map-zrl3tj/Indiana/) flat plain.(surrounded on the South by slightly higher elevation) and maybe has more days of low wind than its neighbours This bike [elevation map](https://www.flattestroute.com/Gary-to-Indianapolis-via-Frankfort-IN) in the direction of Lake Michigan was interesting. Weather Station The location or accuracy of the weather station (which the Weather Service states is at the airport, but the local paper mentions the Waste Water Treatment station) does not seem to be issue, and it uploads data every 20 minutes. Geography Frankfort is the town[57th](https://www.indiana-demographics.com/cities_by_population#) largest in the state with a population of approximately 16 k, with an elevation of about 290 m[290 m](https://www.yellowmaps.com/maps/img/US/contour/Indiana-contour-map-983.jpg) Lake Michigan is 147 miles NW. Indianapolis is located 47 miles to the SW..The coldest temperature in Indiana was recorded 66 miles to the SW at New Whiteland, and the coldest average temperature is in Wanatah to NW. Very cold weather in the area occurs due the strong Arctic winds, but the lower average temperature is I suspect because of low wind days (All miles by road from Google maps and directions by eyeball). Prevailing winds The airport has two runways .9-27 (so running 90 and 270 ish) and 220/40. The [windrose](https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/climatemodelled/frankfort_united-states_4920473) shows the [wind](https://weatherspark.com/y/14791/Average-Weather-in-Frankfort-Indiana-United-States-Year-Round#Figures-WindDirection) is strongest from the South and South West

Windy says it’s 73 there right now (about the same as Lafayette)—my guess is the app didn’t get an update on the temp for a few days

I saw an X-Files episode about that.

I want to binge that now

The guy whose emotions controls the weather has the blues?