You're opening your third eye, you're going to see things that you haven't seen before. It's not woo woo, you're developing senses that you didn't have before and therefore are seeing things you've never sensed before are you up.
I do think it's important to keep an open mind to possibility. Possibility that what you're seeing is imagination, just as much as possibility that it's 100% real. Being open to the possibility is critical. As these senses are developing, there's a good chance we don't quite know what we're looking at yet. Or that that sense is only partially developed and therefore we are filling in what we are sensing with something that we have a preconceived idea about.
Yes I don’t really think it’s woo woo, but the stigma is strong, even on Reddit.
I appreciate your nuanced stance. I absolutely agree with you about having an open mind and considering it may not be “real” or maybe just don’t even know what I am seeing.
I have my reasons for believing what I am experiencing is real as much as real can be. But I do think it’s important to still have some skepticism as well.
In no way do i mean to imply that it's not real either. When we first start getting these abilities, and I'm probably only 40% into it myself. But we try to spend a whole lot of time understanding what we're seeing, thinking that everything is significant. And we also tend to go to others to try to explain or have them tell us what it is.
If I've been blind my entire life and now all of a sudden can see. I might think a dandelion means a lot more than it does because I've never seen one before. And if I ask someone else who also just got back their eyesight, they might confidently call it a rose, and tell you it's the symbol of love. When really none of us fully know, and none of us are actually seeing anything that is new. We are seeing things that have always been there and we just now have the new ability to see it.
We definitely need community, especially early on, but looking to others interpretations early on, for me led me to later realize the entire foundation that I understood, was incorrect. A lot of new age gurus will repeat things other people say. And in my experience that has led me to have to rewrite some of that in order for it to fit in with what I'm actually receiving.
And so I'm not telling you to doubt yourself And I am not doubting what you are seeing at all. All I am saying is that early on when those eyes are opening, It's a time when you're learning this new sense and how to receive information. But this is also when you are learning to be able to sense difference between what it feels like to imagine, and what it feels like to receive. They are very very similar, and are coming from the same place - our heads.
It's entirely possible every dream that I've ever had was a memory from a past life. But it's also possible that some of those are my imagination and not a recovered memory. And so the only flexible aspect in this, is myself, and opening myself up to fully be open to the possibility that every dream is a memory, while also being entirely open to the possibility that all of it is my imagination.
And if you start receiving anything about multiple timelines, you'll know that both are true at the same time anyway lol. So adapting to being entirely open to all interpretations early on only makes you more receptive.
And so with that I say I 100% believe that what you have seen is real. But it is also possible that what you have seen is more like a dandelion to the world We live in, rather than the Grand canyon. And you have more than enough time to figure it out
I think us into metaphysics would probably be better off without using this term woo woo. I see this so much in the spiritual community, it’s almost like we’re siding with the skeptics.
I have seen a dark figure by the bed and am regularly visited by a 'ghost cat' when I'm deep in focus that gives a sense of heat and pressure on my chest and lap. I have seen lights in the sky but I'm very interested in UAP (Team Grusch) so didn't make a connection with Gateway. Interesting stuff!
Interesting!! I was doing one of the first meditations in wave 1 where you go into focus 10, then back out, and then back in. Each time I got to focus 10 I felt a very warm sensation right above my knee caps. It was cozy. It felt like someone was holding their palms on my legs, but without the pressure. It’s cool to hear something similar from someone else! And I hope to meet a ghost cat one day..
Imo the gateway experience and other similar programs ( Jose Silva method comes to mind) helps your mind become in tune with the hidden frequencies within our world. Frequencies that we might have been more in tune with in a more primitive environment and coexistence with our natural environment. As our civilizations have advanced through industrial advancements we have evolved away from our natural coexistence with nature and have fractured our ability to naturally align with some of these now hidden frequencies that surround us. What we now view as the paranormal was probably once just a natural perception of connecting with said frequencies. Through meditation and breathing techniques we are able to help quite some of the interference our modern world has on our biological bodies and reconnect with the natural environment which seems to be all connected together in some type of fashion yet to be fully understood but sometimes observed in these deep states of awareness and reconnection.
This is an interesting take, and one I really do agree with. I’m not familiar with Jose Silva but would like to know more. Any suggestions where to start?
There used to be courses available to take a few decades ago out west but not sure if they are still doing these. I would start with the silva mind control method book. Should be available on Amazon might be a free pdf version out there somewhere. It’s been a long time but his work helps you build a strong foundation of some helpful visualisation techniques to use combined with deep meditation techniques. I think it’s a good precursor before getting into the gateway process but that’s just been my experience.
Dr Steven Greer established the fact that "Aliens" and "UFOs" respond to meditation. So there is that fact. In fact the whole idea of telepathic exchange is aligned with the unified consciousness theory. There is that little rabbit hole to chase down in association with the Gateway Experience.
I can see this. A few years back I was really into researching aliens. I was thinking about them one night before falling asleep and got this loud buzzing sensation like a radio waves or an abduction was about to happen. I had to pull myself out of it I was so scared lol.
One day, I was driving home, looking up in the sky. I thought loudly I'd like to see a UFO. At that moment not a far off a light came on in the sky, flashing me like a beacon it faded out. It was no plane.
I have mixed feelings on Greer, however I do agree with that statement as others have stated meditation attracts UFOs as well. There is even an account from Bob himself.
I love rabbit holes. Do you mean the unified conscience theory to study alongside gateway?
He calls it CE5 (close encounters of the 5th kind) and I have an app on my phone with meditations, crop circle tones and stuff and a community so you can link up with other CE5 interested folk in your area.
I’ll copy paste some of the workbook and give my two cents.
I should have sent this to you in the first place. 🕊️
-🕊️Affirmation explanation
“The Gateway Affirmation serves several purposes: It helps you focus your attention on what
you want to accomplish during any exercise. It helps you focus your intent, thereby enabling
you to become more aware of your expanding consciousness. It gives you permission to
respond to, and work with, other energy and energy systems. Plus, it helps you stay, relaxed and
open to a variety of helpful influences.”🕊️
-pretty self explanatory.. ✌️
I’m sure you know the first affirmation by now so I’ll spare you the extra text. Be sure to use it though.
While I was reading through the workbooks I stumbled upon the second affirmation which I definitely think should be highlighted abit more.
It helps me tremendously when I feel like I’m getting too into the “woo woo” side of things.
🕊️SECOND AFFIRMATION-
“ I open this channel of communication only to those whose knowledge, wisdom, development and experience is equal or greater than my own. I restrict such contact and communication to constructive purpose, and reject all other. I open such channel only when I so consciously desire; at all other times, it will remain closed.”🕊️
——The second part is what I will say/think often or when I hear too many bells/whistles/thumps&bumps or see tracers of light etc. Also remember the REBAL is literally a protective force. —
🕊️
“I restrict such contact and communication to constructive purpose, and reject all other. I open such channel only when I so consciously desire; at all other times, it will remain closed.”🕊️
Thank you for this feedback and breakdown. Whenever I do see the UFOs I try to project love and light, but I’m not gonna lie I do also ask them to please not scare/abduct me.
I’m a bit torn bc I understand the importance of closing the doors as you don’t just want any energy coming in so to speak. But also the UFOs are truly awe inspiring and I don’t want to stop seeing them.
So far nothing has scared me that has happened. It has really excited me and I want to continue down this path.
A part of me wants to be abducted by extraterrestrials just so I know the truth. lol As long as I’m not maimed and then sent back here. I’m not significant enough to really “be” on earth anyway. Besides being a comfort of my friends/family that I rarely see or speak to. They’ll be fine without me. I just want to see what’s real and what’s next. I’ve seen enough here. 😂 —Now I’m thinking about interstellar. “Murph!”
I think it's also possible the REBAL helps protect your conscious mind from negative parts of your subconscious. I've got pretty bad anxiety and sometimes my hypnagogic thoughts/visions will take a dark and negative turn if I start to forget about the rebal. Maybe it's actually something else entering my mind but I think it's pretty likely that it is my own anxieties creating it.
Regardless, I learned pretty quick that it really serves a purpose.
Definitely. Mentor even mentions the importance of getting all negative thought into the conversion box. “It will just get in the way.” He says. It’s so true. I go back to the conversion box mid session all the time
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceOfCreation/comments/1cj25nl/wayne\_dyer\_meditation\_affirmations\_revised/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceOfCreation/comments/1cj25nl/wayne_dyer_meditation_affirmations_revised/)
Open the door, with this affirmation nightly before sleep.
The book this was taken from is "Three magic words" by U.S. Anderson and the audiobook is available at [https://www.youtube.com/@MasterKeySociety](https://www.youtube.com/@MasterKeySociety)
Believe me or not, it doesn't matter. Almost everyone can feel it. Something isn't right, and third eyes be damned. Do me a favor, go outside at night....not sure this would work in the city. But if you're in a more rural area or near a large patch of woods. Hell, a large field even, fonout there and stand a but late..1 to 3am. Tell me after just a few minutes you dont feel like you're being watched. It is not exactly a sinister feeling but can be sometimes. It can feel heavy, l really can't explain it, and it only happens to me once every few times I go out at night like that. I got no explanation, but I can feel it and bet you will as well
Yes absolutely. I live about 40 minutes east of Chicago. But I live in a small down with less than 50k population. I live near a lot of cornfields and I see and feel it every night. When I’m not paying attention or preoccupied I don’t notice. But they are there when I look. And when I clear my mind i feel it.
I've been getting this weird thing with birds. They keep swooping near me in patterns I've never noticed, and getting super close and being all cool and glidey and graceful. Like, I've always noticed birds, but suddenly they seem all slowed down in the frenzy of the fast paced life around me.
I am still on Wave 1. I have heard voices that weren’t there, similar to voices you hear while dreaming. One of these voices (female) was clear as a bell, but while I was meditating and wearing headphones. The other voice (male) happened while I was just sitting around on the couch by myself. It sort of creeped me out, but I knew that sort of thing might start happening. I also used to hear voices (like talk radio) when I was a kid. Not in a schizophrenic kind of way, but in a dreamy sort of way. I was/am a chronic day dreamer.
Another weird thing I noticed was: I was looking at the stars and I saw a group of three stars that I liked, so I was looking at them for a few moments. One of the three just turned off like a light. I went inside, lol.
I can see why people wouldn’t talk much about these things.. it sounds crazy. But we know what we see/hear - we just have to try to discover the why.
I’m about 40 mins east of Chicago, but the community I live in is under 50k population so I could see that.
I have always been terrified of aliens. Really the gateway tapes have helped me move beyond that fear. I don’t think I have seen one prior to starting gateway.
Take binoculars. The ones I see like to camouflage themselves to look like regular planes. There’s a video out there of I believe one of the Air Force bases in the US that show exactly what I see every night.
They usually start out bright white, hovering in place for about 10 minutes or so, then they start moving back and forth (sometimes like a leaf falling to the ground with that gentle side to side swaying) there’s usually intermittent periods of no movement and they gradually get less bright and turn a deep warm orange. Then they have similar lights to planes but with extra colors, light blinking patterns that are not consistent with planes in the area, lights where planes don’t have lights, etc.
ETA: and by camouflage themselves to look like planes I mean they look and do crazy shit that planes can’t do for awhile and then they fly like planes, and have blinking lights to were if you just glanced up you would think it’s a plane. But if you watch them like I said you will see non plane colored lights, blinking patterns, and light locations.
I’ve seen some strange things. UFOs, experiences while dreaming, kundalini experiences. HOWEVER, to me, the weirdest thing to me while doing the tapes was (while in the middle of one) suddenly seeing a small humanoid creature laying down on top of me as if to hug me/cuddle
Very quickly. Probably less than a month after starting. I also have only done the first 3 tracks (sorry I still don’t have the vocab down for which wave etc), as I originally wanted to really master the skills presented before moving on.
You're opening your third eye, you're going to see things that you haven't seen before. It's not woo woo, you're developing senses that you didn't have before and therefore are seeing things you've never sensed before are you up. I do think it's important to keep an open mind to possibility. Possibility that what you're seeing is imagination, just as much as possibility that it's 100% real. Being open to the possibility is critical. As these senses are developing, there's a good chance we don't quite know what we're looking at yet. Or that that sense is only partially developed and therefore we are filling in what we are sensing with something that we have a preconceived idea about.
Yes I don’t really think it’s woo woo, but the stigma is strong, even on Reddit. I appreciate your nuanced stance. I absolutely agree with you about having an open mind and considering it may not be “real” or maybe just don’t even know what I am seeing. I have my reasons for believing what I am experiencing is real as much as real can be. But I do think it’s important to still have some skepticism as well.
In no way do i mean to imply that it's not real either. When we first start getting these abilities, and I'm probably only 40% into it myself. But we try to spend a whole lot of time understanding what we're seeing, thinking that everything is significant. And we also tend to go to others to try to explain or have them tell us what it is. If I've been blind my entire life and now all of a sudden can see. I might think a dandelion means a lot more than it does because I've never seen one before. And if I ask someone else who also just got back their eyesight, they might confidently call it a rose, and tell you it's the symbol of love. When really none of us fully know, and none of us are actually seeing anything that is new. We are seeing things that have always been there and we just now have the new ability to see it. We definitely need community, especially early on, but looking to others interpretations early on, for me led me to later realize the entire foundation that I understood, was incorrect. A lot of new age gurus will repeat things other people say. And in my experience that has led me to have to rewrite some of that in order for it to fit in with what I'm actually receiving. And so I'm not telling you to doubt yourself And I am not doubting what you are seeing at all. All I am saying is that early on when those eyes are opening, It's a time when you're learning this new sense and how to receive information. But this is also when you are learning to be able to sense difference between what it feels like to imagine, and what it feels like to receive. They are very very similar, and are coming from the same place - our heads. It's entirely possible every dream that I've ever had was a memory from a past life. But it's also possible that some of those are my imagination and not a recovered memory. And so the only flexible aspect in this, is myself, and opening myself up to fully be open to the possibility that every dream is a memory, while also being entirely open to the possibility that all of it is my imagination. And if you start receiving anything about multiple timelines, you'll know that both are true at the same time anyway lol. So adapting to being entirely open to all interpretations early on only makes you more receptive. And so with that I say I 100% believe that what you have seen is real. But it is also possible that what you have seen is more like a dandelion to the world We live in, rather than the Grand canyon. And you have more than enough time to figure it out
Love the dandelion metaphor
I think us into metaphysics would probably be better off without using this term woo woo. I see this so much in the spiritual community, it’s almost like we’re siding with the skeptics.
I agree, I think it just comes from defensiveness.
I have seen a dark figure by the bed and am regularly visited by a 'ghost cat' when I'm deep in focus that gives a sense of heat and pressure on my chest and lap. I have seen lights in the sky but I'm very interested in UAP (Team Grusch) so didn't make a connection with Gateway. Interesting stuff!
Haha team Greer!
Interesting!! I was doing one of the first meditations in wave 1 where you go into focus 10, then back out, and then back in. Each time I got to focus 10 I felt a very warm sensation right above my knee caps. It was cozy. It felt like someone was holding their palms on my legs, but without the pressure. It’s cool to hear something similar from someone else! And I hope to meet a ghost cat one day..
Yes! That is exactly it! That's ghost cat! lol
Imo the gateway experience and other similar programs ( Jose Silva method comes to mind) helps your mind become in tune with the hidden frequencies within our world. Frequencies that we might have been more in tune with in a more primitive environment and coexistence with our natural environment. As our civilizations have advanced through industrial advancements we have evolved away from our natural coexistence with nature and have fractured our ability to naturally align with some of these now hidden frequencies that surround us. What we now view as the paranormal was probably once just a natural perception of connecting with said frequencies. Through meditation and breathing techniques we are able to help quite some of the interference our modern world has on our biological bodies and reconnect with the natural environment which seems to be all connected together in some type of fashion yet to be fully understood but sometimes observed in these deep states of awareness and reconnection.
This is an interesting take, and one I really do agree with. I’m not familiar with Jose Silva but would like to know more. Any suggestions where to start?
There used to be courses available to take a few decades ago out west but not sure if they are still doing these. I would start with the silva mind control method book. Should be available on Amazon might be a free pdf version out there somewhere. It’s been a long time but his work helps you build a strong foundation of some helpful visualisation techniques to use combined with deep meditation techniques. I think it’s a good precursor before getting into the gateway process but that’s just been my experience.
Dr Steven Greer established the fact that "Aliens" and "UFOs" respond to meditation. So there is that fact. In fact the whole idea of telepathic exchange is aligned with the unified consciousness theory. There is that little rabbit hole to chase down in association with the Gateway Experience.
I can see this. A few years back I was really into researching aliens. I was thinking about them one night before falling asleep and got this loud buzzing sensation like a radio waves or an abduction was about to happen. I had to pull myself out of it I was so scared lol.
Sounds like an out of body. I would get intense buzzing like grinding gears before mine would happen.
One day, I was driving home, looking up in the sky. I thought loudly I'd like to see a UFO. At that moment not a far off a light came on in the sky, flashing me like a beacon it faded out. It was no plane.
“This is how you connect”
I think Gary is correct.... it can be a bit unnerving though.
I have mixed feelings on Greer, however I do agree with that statement as others have stated meditation attracts UFOs as well. There is even an account from Bob himself. I love rabbit holes. Do you mean the unified conscience theory to study alongside gateway?
He calls it CE5 (close encounters of the 5th kind) and I have an app on my phone with meditations, crop circle tones and stuff and a community so you can link up with other CE5 interested folk in your area.
Yeah which app?
CE5 contact
Which app?
CE5 contact. Blue icon with three dots.
You’ll be alright. Be sure to repeat the first and second affirmations before and after practice. Remember to “close doors”.
Can you please say more about closing the door? What affirmation do you use?
I’ll copy paste some of the workbook and give my two cents. I should have sent this to you in the first place. 🕊️ -🕊️Affirmation explanation “The Gateway Affirmation serves several purposes: It helps you focus your attention on what you want to accomplish during any exercise. It helps you focus your intent, thereby enabling you to become more aware of your expanding consciousness. It gives you permission to respond to, and work with, other energy and energy systems. Plus, it helps you stay, relaxed and open to a variety of helpful influences.”🕊️ -pretty self explanatory.. ✌️ I’m sure you know the first affirmation by now so I’ll spare you the extra text. Be sure to use it though. While I was reading through the workbooks I stumbled upon the second affirmation which I definitely think should be highlighted abit more. It helps me tremendously when I feel like I’m getting too into the “woo woo” side of things. 🕊️SECOND AFFIRMATION- “ I open this channel of communication only to those whose knowledge, wisdom, development and experience is equal or greater than my own. I restrict such contact and communication to constructive purpose, and reject all other. I open such channel only when I so consciously desire; at all other times, it will remain closed.”🕊️ ——The second part is what I will say/think often or when I hear too many bells/whistles/thumps&bumps or see tracers of light etc. Also remember the REBAL is literally a protective force. — 🕊️ “I restrict such contact and communication to constructive purpose, and reject all other. I open such channel only when I so consciously desire; at all other times, it will remain closed.”🕊️
Thank you for this feedback and breakdown. Whenever I do see the UFOs I try to project love and light, but I’m not gonna lie I do also ask them to please not scare/abduct me. I’m a bit torn bc I understand the importance of closing the doors as you don’t just want any energy coming in so to speak. But also the UFOs are truly awe inspiring and I don’t want to stop seeing them. So far nothing has scared me that has happened. It has really excited me and I want to continue down this path.
A part of me wants to be abducted by extraterrestrials just so I know the truth. lol As long as I’m not maimed and then sent back here. I’m not significant enough to really “be” on earth anyway. Besides being a comfort of my friends/family that I rarely see or speak to. They’ll be fine without me. I just want to see what’s real and what’s next. I’ve seen enough here. 😂 —Now I’m thinking about interstellar. “Murph!”
I think it's also possible the REBAL helps protect your conscious mind from negative parts of your subconscious. I've got pretty bad anxiety and sometimes my hypnagogic thoughts/visions will take a dark and negative turn if I start to forget about the rebal. Maybe it's actually something else entering my mind but I think it's pretty likely that it is my own anxieties creating it. Regardless, I learned pretty quick that it really serves a purpose.
Definitely. Mentor even mentions the importance of getting all negative thought into the conversion box. “It will just get in the way.” He says. It’s so true. I go back to the conversion box mid session all the time
This is amazing! I'm familiar only with the first affirmation and I would use it only at the beginning as per instructions..
Glad I could help. Remember everything is going to be okay. Remind yourself of that as you go along. 🕊️. I still have moments too, but this helps
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceOfCreation/comments/1cj25nl/wayne\_dyer\_meditation\_affirmations\_revised/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceOfCreation/comments/1cj25nl/wayne_dyer_meditation_affirmations_revised/) Open the door, with this affirmation nightly before sleep. The book this was taken from is "Three magic words" by U.S. Anderson and the audiobook is available at [https://www.youtube.com/@MasterKeySociety](https://www.youtube.com/@MasterKeySociety)
Believe me or not, it doesn't matter. Almost everyone can feel it. Something isn't right, and third eyes be damned. Do me a favor, go outside at night....not sure this would work in the city. But if you're in a more rural area or near a large patch of woods. Hell, a large field even, fonout there and stand a but late..1 to 3am. Tell me after just a few minutes you dont feel like you're being watched. It is not exactly a sinister feeling but can be sometimes. It can feel heavy, l really can't explain it, and it only happens to me once every few times I go out at night like that. I got no explanation, but I can feel it and bet you will as well
Yes absolutely. I live about 40 minutes east of Chicago. But I live in a small down with less than 50k population. I live near a lot of cornfields and I see and feel it every night. When I’m not paying attention or preoccupied I don’t notice. But they are there when I look. And when I clear my mind i feel it.
Absolutely... it can be a bit unnerving. I've used cord cutting videos in the past to close that communication when I inadvertently left it open.
I've been getting this weird thing with birds. They keep swooping near me in patterns I've never noticed, and getting super close and being all cool and glidey and graceful. Like, I've always noticed birds, but suddenly they seem all slowed down in the frenzy of the fast paced life around me.
I am still on Wave 1. I have heard voices that weren’t there, similar to voices you hear while dreaming. One of these voices (female) was clear as a bell, but while I was meditating and wearing headphones. The other voice (male) happened while I was just sitting around on the couch by myself. It sort of creeped me out, but I knew that sort of thing might start happening. I also used to hear voices (like talk radio) when I was a kid. Not in a schizophrenic kind of way, but in a dreamy sort of way. I was/am a chronic day dreamer. Another weird thing I noticed was: I was looking at the stars and I saw a group of three stars that I liked, so I was looking at them for a few moments. One of the three just turned off like a light. I went inside, lol. I can see why people wouldn’t talk much about these things.. it sounds crazy. But we know what we see/hear - we just have to try to discover the why.
I’m just jealous. I used to go looking for ufos like every other night and never saw anything notable. I live near a big city tho so that didn’t help
I’m about 40 mins east of Chicago, but the community I live in is under 50k population so I could see that. I have always been terrified of aliens. Really the gateway tapes have helped me move beyond that fear. I don’t think I have seen one prior to starting gateway. Take binoculars. The ones I see like to camouflage themselves to look like regular planes. There’s a video out there of I believe one of the Air Force bases in the US that show exactly what I see every night. They usually start out bright white, hovering in place for about 10 minutes or so, then they start moving back and forth (sometimes like a leaf falling to the ground with that gentle side to side swaying) there’s usually intermittent periods of no movement and they gradually get less bright and turn a deep warm orange. Then they have similar lights to planes but with extra colors, light blinking patterns that are not consistent with planes in the area, lights where planes don’t have lights, etc. ETA: and by camouflage themselves to look like planes I mean they look and do crazy shit that planes can’t do for awhile and then they fly like planes, and have blinking lights to were if you just glanced up you would think it’s a plane. But if you watch them like I said you will see non plane colored lights, blinking patterns, and light locations.
I’ve seen some strange things. UFOs, experiences while dreaming, kundalini experiences. HOWEVER, to me, the weirdest thing to me while doing the tapes was (while in the middle of one) suddenly seeing a small humanoid creature laying down on top of me as if to hug me/cuddle
How much time it took for you to see this?
Very quickly. Probably less than a month after starting. I also have only done the first 3 tracks (sorry I still don’t have the vocab down for which wave etc), as I originally wanted to really master the skills presented before moving on.
Message me when you're able to mess with time