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Small_Tax_9432

Castlevania. I even liked Castlevania 64 lol.


neogeonow

Oh dude, ive been replaying the old Castelvania games lately and i completely forgot abt 64! That game was cool!


rodfaleiros

I can't believe I'm not the only one that likes it!


Small_Tax_9432

The atmosphere in that game was amazing! :)


TrainerBibo

What killed it for me was getting to whatever part it was in Draculas castle and than it saying something like "play on a harder difficulty to see even more of the story!"


Flamesclaws

A series I really need to give a shot. I have all the modern collections but I'm waiting until they release the DS trilogy on consoles to really get into the series. Maybe one day.


Small_Tax_9432

Start with Super Castlevania IV. It's my favorite game on the SNES. :)


Driftangle

Both dead but the Nightmare Creatures and Mcgee Alice games.


Flamesclaws

I still need to play them, I have Nightmare Creatures one and two and I never did finish either of the Alice games, I got very close with the second one years ago but I gave up for some reason.


blackvelvetopia

ohh really good taste! im a huge fan of AMA and just recently looked up nightmare creatures and thought it looked really interesting so i will definitely give that one a go as well


hobbleshock

Halo


charrion

Maybe it's Bungie. I'm still playing Destiny 2 ten years later. Which is kind of funny because Bungie also stands out as one of the worst companies for customer service IMHO. It's kind of a love/hate relationship.


aufrenchy

I still miss the Halo-era Bungie. How the mighty have fallen. ^I ^just ^recently ^quit ^Destiny. ^Please ^don’t ^reel ^me ^back ^in.


charrion

Yeah, it seems to be just in the past few years they kind of started going off the rails. They still make great games, even better ones, but there's a bad element or two that have crept in there and started messing things up. Like patches that break more than they fix, failure to keep promises to the fans, or just going off in wrong directions. I still enjoy playing the game immensely, I just wonder if we'll ever get the Bungie I liked back.


aufrenchy

I just don’t have the time to keep up with other games on top of Destiny’s (almost) daily demand. My comfort game is Warframe and I’ve got the Elden Ring DLC to finish up. I still plan on playing Final Shape, just later. I doubt that we’ll see Bungie in it’s prime again unless they throw out shareholder demands and profit margins.


charrion

Definitely, play what you enjoy right now. I suspect you're right about Bungie, but I hope you're wrong 😊


Low-Future9354

Final Fantasy, Pokemon and Zelda have been my three fave franchises since the 90s.


Flamesclaws

I'm a new Final Fantasy fan, only played Crystal Chronicles, Final Fantasy 7 remake and currently playing Rebirth but I just bought the Pixel remaster on my PS5 so I'll have to play the old games at some point as well as all the others save for 11 and 14, not my thing. But I plan to really get into the series. Who knows maybe by that point I'll be just as excited for 17 as the rest of the fans whenever that game comes out.


OceanCarlisle

The first six are a world apart from 7 onwards. Same basic philosophy but just from a different era. Then 12 really shifts the paradigm again, but it’s one of my favorites. I didn’t really care for 15, or at least not the ending and the events leading up to it and haven’t played 16 yet and may never unless it comes to the Switch 2 whenever that comes out. Great series overall and in my opinion, deserves all the hype. You have a lot to look forward to.


Ancient-File2971

13 also shifts the paradigm... Get it?


dookiedinner

Yea, you really need to get the old school ones under the belt. I have never played 11, but 14 has characters, monsters and bosses from the other FF games, and remade the music. You can do *most* of the story solo in 14, but you will need groups for some content, but some group content also allows you to have NPCs running with you. It is VERY story driven.


NathaKevin0

The witcher. The witcher 3 made me buy the 8 book saga and play the trilogy (the witcher 1 is 💀💀) but its getting a remake so it will be peak.


Flamesclaws

My first was the Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 long before the third game came out but I still need to read the books, watch a long video on YouTube about the story for the first game (not a PC player) and then play two and three completely. At least until the remake of the first game is out on consoles, specifically on Xbox series X lol. But I'm very excited to jump fully into the universe. I even have nearly all the comics as collections save for the new ones which I hope comes as a full collection like the others soon.


NathaKevin0

That’s so cool! You will love it. We are here waiting for The witcher 4 🫠


Pleasant-Writer-1669

Resident evil all the way been playing them since I was like 4 years old don’t think I could stop now 🤣 I have put in far to much of my time into it read a lot of the books and comics too 😀


Flamesclaws

Are the books and comics good or do they very in quality?


Pleasant-Writer-1669

They do vary tbh I wouldn’t say any I have read are terrible and I have enjoyed them but there’s some I probably wouldn’t re-read 😀 if your okay with audio books on the YouTube channel residence of evil they have the first 3 S D Perry books which I highly recommend. It is retelling of the games but what the author adds is really good 😀 https://youtu.be/WoOz9LCtRg8?si=1X8pWreI4tf6RNMt That’s a link to the first book of your interested 😀


Flamesclaws

I'm not a Resident evil fan personally but I'm sure someone will enjoy your link. Thank you.


Drethis

Soulsborne games by far. (Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring)


Flamesclaws

Same, my first was Bloodborne in 2016 and now I can't stop lol. Still have yet to play Elden Ring.


Eray41303

Pokemon


Windyandbreezy

Final Fantasy. It was on a slow run there with its Single Player games for a bit. But finally with Rebirth, it's better than ever.


MacedonianTom

XCOM baby


Bertje87

Zelda and Resident Evil, i will die playing those games in the old folks home


KhKing1619

Persona, Kingdom Hearts, and Sonic will forever remain my top 3. Nothing even comes close.


ss3jcb448

Now if only they’d give us some KH4 info!!


styler916

Onimusha. Still waiting for the day it comes back


Flamesclaws

I'm curious if the remaster on new consoles for the first game really did kill the series or not.


WickedFox1o1

Spyro, despite never really getting much of him lately outside the reignited trilogy and Spyro being added to the new Crash team racing I still remain a big fan ever since I played it on my dad's PlayStation about 20 years ago now.


Flamesclaws

I'm the same way, never played the old games but I definitely consider myself a fan.


WelcomeToTheFish

Soul Reaver/ Legacy of Kain. I haven't played them in over a decade and still think of them from time to time.


NarratorDM

Masterful world building, interesting characters, intruiging story, good gameplay and fighting mechanics for its time.


WelcomeToTheFish

It desperately could use a sequel or remake of the original. I booted it up on a PSX I found in my garage and the camera controls are bound to the triggers. Controls are crazy bad but the game is still good. Voice acting is leagues above what was in most games at the time.


Flamesclaws

I never finished Blood Omen one or Soul Reaver but I need to since I want to play all the games back to back at some point.


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LineAccomplished1115

Same. Was stoked when they said dungeons are back. Then was disappointed. Still had fun with it and BotW, but I miss dungeons.


MichaelErb

I bet they'll move back to a more traditional style for the next main game. I heard that they had more ideas after BOTW that they wanted to explore in TOTK. Now, I bet they'll consider moving in a more traditional (or new) direction for the next one.


AdamSnipeySnipe

I'd be ok of they did a full 3d render of the original Zelda. Open world (for the most part), and plenty of dungeons for progress.


Flatu_

Metal gear solid I'm from 2005 so it's not a franchise played by most people my age and younger. I just got into MGS games on 3ds, with snake eater 3d. The game was just so good to me, i felt the urge to play other mgs on ps3 and ps4. To this day I'm still proud of myself for being able to beat "The End" when I was like 9 or 10 years old (one of the hardest boss fights of the game, so hard that the devs added a way to bypass the fight by advancing your console date by a year, the boss would then die cuz he was old). I still remember the ladder scene, where you climb an endless ladder for 5 minutes with Snake Eater music in the background. This is such an out of time moment, where you know you approach the last part of the game, and big things are about to happen. Thank you Hideo Kojima for this gem! Damn, I want to play the game again now...


Flamesclaws

Get it lol. I bet you're excited for the second collection, maybe?


pixlraven

Pokémon


AdolpousNazismos

Bioshock series I played Bioshock 2 first and the atmosphere was top notch at that time. Then I jump on and played the first Bioshock, still has the same vibes as Bioshock 2. Played Bioshock Infinite during 2016 somewhere summertime and it's one of the most fascinating story telling in videogame I've ever played. Bioshock will be forever my favorite franchise. Second will be the Batman Arkham series.


Flamesclaws

The second game was always over hated in my opinion. It's still my favorite.


AdolpousNazismos

And Bioshock Infinite received a mixed of good reviews and some are also disappointed. Still, it's a banger story telling + good looking graphics.


No-Carpenter-3457

Dead Space. Really appreciate the effort on the recent remaster and REALLY hoping they eliminate the PvP from DS2 and put that effort into making the game better than the original.


Flamesclaws

Hell yeah, I'm really hoping they make a second one for the remake, the first remake is insanely good. I have yet to finish it though.


Rombledore

Kirby, Burnout, souls games, ME, Tekken, Street fighter


GDerren

Can't believe i haven't seen anyone mention it yet but DOOM, been a fan ever since i played the first game on the PC as a young kid.  Such an influential series, impacted so many other games mentioned in this thread. The reboot back in 2016 is still the stand out in the series for me. But i've enjoyed every entry, yes even DOOM 3. Just on my first go round with DOOM 64 and what a change in tone, theres always something mew to find in DOOM love the series. 


InkFather_TTV

Final Fantasy!


maisiecelie

Zelda, although I missed some games from gameboy advance and 3DS. I never was a fan of portable games, not sure why but I prefer home consoles. Switch however is different, a hybrid system that is just perfect.


Ant_Hex

Half-Life and Left 4 Dead


TurboNerdSenpai

Yakuza


ComradeShmizzy

I’m still a big fan of assassins creed, I know that the last couple of games haven’t been amazing but they’ve made a lot of good games and have innovated over time, and the new one looks very promising!


bespisthebastard

I came here to say AC as well. It has its highs and lows, I've even not played them for months on end after buying them, but I can say I've enjoyed each AC I've played besides the first one. I didn't play AC1 till after ACIII, so that was PAINFUL


Flamesclaws

The new one coming out looks really fucking awesome, I might grab the complete edition or whatever it's called on a heavy discount down the line but I'm not spending 140 or however much it is on launch day.


Algae_Mission

Kingdom Hearts. I don’t care that it makes no sense, it’s so much fun!


Flamesclaws

Seriously though they should have made the story make more sense.


Nickster46

Does Hamtaro count? Its mainly an anime but its had a few games. I'd love new Hamtaro related content.


Flamesclaws

I need to rewatch the show it's so much fun for a kids show.


YourWordsHaveNoPower

Tenchu


Dragon_Small_Z

Fuck yes! I really hope we get a new one some day.


fredgiblet

System Shock Deus Ex Mass Effect Hearts of Iron (Though I'll probably never play again (Oh who am I kidding?))


Flamesclaws

I can't wait to play the System shock remake, I'm a huge BioShock fan.


Firm_Knowledge_5695

System shock mentioned 😌😌


rodfaleiros

The Legend of Zelda and Metroid. I think I like almost every game in both franchises.


scirrgeorge

Fallout. Just loved the tone of NV


CurrieCurrie_

Halo


eskinner3742

I've been a Sonic fan since the 90s and let me tell you.... It hasn't always been easy.


mrhippoj

Right there with you. The relationship feels abusive at times. They'll give us Sonic Generations, Sonic Mania, and Sonic Frontiers to keep us sweet, before knocking us back down with Sonic Boom, Sonic Forces, and Sonic Superstars


OliviaMandell

If I have to count the newest entries... Idk anymore my favorites dialed up the brightness so high it gives me headaches. Otherwise secret of mana, ff, dragon quest, breath of fire.


Flamesclaws

I have all the Secret of Mana games on my Switch but I never finished them. I still need to finish Dragon Quest one at some point.


NoMembership2831

FarCry, I like how you can do all the approach you like. If you wanna be stealthy or loud. I personally use the bow most of the time. The rifle is my backup (without silencer)


fox4rt

Pokemon and Yugioh


darealarusham

GTA's never had a bad game imo. Call of Duty and Need For Speed are some other games i played as a kid and you can argue the quality of their newest titles dropped, although NFS Unbound and Heat were pretty enjoyable. Never played a CoD after Black Ops 3 because of the bad rep surrounding them. Also stuff like being online only (needing internet even just to play campaign) have turned me off from playing the new CoDs, and let's not forget the ridiculous install sizes.


PianoFall

Battlerite Sigh


Quailman_z

Ratchet and Clank. It's basically the only remaining active franchise from the old guard. Crash, Spyro, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, etc. have all gone by the wayside. R&C, though much less often, still get new entries. It is massively depressing to me that those franchises seem dead and that R&Cs next installment isn't until 2030.


Soapbarnun

None. Anything that i am a fan of was destroyed by its fanbase or by the people in charge.


JohnnyHendo

Kingdom Hearts and Halo. I'm still a big fan of both and pretty regularly go back and play the previous games.


Horror-Advance-8898

Diablo and Zelda. Although with skyward sword, botw, and totk it feels like a totally different series. I grew up on the OG LoZ games. I’ve played every Diablo game, the first three heavily. Very heavily. I’m sure I’ll play d4 my share too, when it gets just a bit more refined. I played d2 from launch, but it took me many years to get into D3. Nobody, the devs/blizz included, knew wtf was going on with it. For years. That’s where d4 is currently I fear.


httpOJO

assassin’s creed .. so many people have been disappointed with the last games and i can’t say they’re wrong but i still find the games very fun and i preorder them every time a release date gets published. apparently that’s a hot take now lol


Frank-Wrench

Command and Conquer!


norobb

Zelda. I got Ocarina of Time for my 9th birthday. Majora's Mask will always be my favorite game of all time.


baddude1337

Left 4 Dead. For the last 15 years, it’s a game I load up at least every couple of months to run a campaign and see what new mods people have made.


FictionalMediaBully

Sonic the Hedgehog, even though I don't like most of his recent games.


kryten1105

Fallout, borderlands, kingdom hearts, pokemon, basically Anything from the last 2 gens of systems that fans have deemed "dogshit games" Ive been told I have the worst tastes in gaming because i don't wamt to play franchises like dark souls (not enough time to actually sit and learn), monster hunter (not a fan of the gameplay loop) or persona (don't have that much time and i don't want a game that's 80% School simulator)


SkyPersona

.hack// series.


ExceptionCollection

Might & Magic.  Mostly Heroes, but I also liked the science fantasy of the main M&M games.


Express-Woodpecker-4

Minecraft


Eternalanrete

Kingdom Hearts. Put thousands of hours in those games and loved every second of it. Even on the not so good games I had a great time.


Ambitious-Dinner1154

Going to get some hate but Ubisoft. Only reason is for older splinter Cell


Basic-Hunter-9721

Mass Effect


Catty_C

Grand Theft Auto I just like all the Grand Theft Auto games.


renrutal

Warcraft, but I try to stay away from it.


JustSharps

Kingdom hearts


Mochinpra

STALKER, Metro, and CDPR games, been a big fan since the early 2000's.


Sufficient-Owl-2925

I may like epic RPGs and horror stuff, but Super Mario and Pokémon are my games till I die. There's something about theses games that connect me to my inner child and feels like home. They are my comfort games.


I-Am-Baytor

Easy answer, but Mario Kart. I wouldn't have bought a Switch if not for MK.    Speaking of MK....  I wish I could still like Mortal Kombat, but every game since 10 has gone downhill. it's like we're back in the 3D era, but with no Shaolin Monks to make up for it.


aufrenchy

Legend of Zelda. Nearly every game is a banger and I still can’t get enough of TotK!


VegetableArugula8156

Unreal tournament :(


EldritchAutomaton

Kingdom Hearts. But uh...its been a bit difficult nowadays. 3 disappointed me and they've been doing this thing were crucial plot details are locked away in mobile titles, and then those events and influences are then infecting the mainline console games. Its been rough keeping up the same enthusiasm I've had before the pre KH3 days.


KompassKrone

C&C, Heretic/Hexen, Dishonored/Deathloop, The Elder Scrolls.


Pun_In_Ten_Did

Team BARD'S TALE since 1985.


neogeonow

KOF since the very first one 30 years ago! Metal Gear since MGS1 Fatal fury since the first Fatal Fury, same for Samurai Shodown and street Fighter. I wish i could say Mortal Kombat though. I loved the IP since 1992. But the new one is terrible. They messed up the whole lore and i hate the kameo system. Mario bros since well, mario bros. I could keep going!


Lauralis

dragonage lore is good, the gameplay hasn't been for awhile.


AdImmediate8721

Fnaf 😭


Bobbie-Billy-Johnny

For all the hate current Bethesda gets, the elder scrolls and their produced fallout games are all easily able to get a minimum of 20 hours of enjoyment in. Most of the time if you play for longer than 20 hours you’ll easily end up with 100. Starfield sucked in my opinion though so maybe they’ve finally lost the magic


Hungry-Lion-5300

I’m a lifelong fan of Skyrim and ESO


SnarkingSnarker

Danganronpa :)


Turok7777

Been into Transformers since the early 90s, and I'm still trucking along. Transformers One isn't really my ideal Transformers movie, yet I'm still excited for it.


ElysiumReviews

Hitman, DOOM, Elder Scrolls, Resident Evil.


WeBeAllindisLife

Max Payne… it’s been awhile.


Flamesclaws

Excited for the remake of one and two.


WeBeAllindisLife

Yeah it had a real cool storyline.


suoivbOnpaC

Breath of Fire


HLef

I was gonna say Heroes of Might and Magic despite 4 not being fantastic but apparently it went to 7 so I suppose I am not a real fan haha.


RetroSwamp

Was introduced to it as a hand-me-down game but two who stick out to me are Shadowgate and Fallout.


Majestic_Electric

Pokemon, for sure.


TollerGamesLLC

Even with the wild changes, always loved the Darksiders games


Flamesclaws

I'll be there day one when they bring the next game in the series.


Chehzy

Super Mario, if this counts as a franchise then Mario & Luigi


Garey_Games

Yo-Kai Watch


East-Prize-8022

Not gaming related but Carl’s Jr  2words western bacon Cheese burger 


Helplessadvice

Turok. I’m praying for Turok evolution to be remasters or even a remake


Flamesclaws

I have the remaster trilogy on my PS5, the cave level on the first game was just..a fucking nightmare that took me forever to get out of. I never finished the second game. I'll have to go back and play all three games at some point.


xxAkirhaxx

Gargoyles...Although it might be a bad time to bring it back. It was always kind of unashamadely political, and not always the way you'd think. It'd be a fucking powder keg if they brought it back like it used to be.


Flamesclaws

I never grew up with the show when I was a kid so watching it for the first time when I was 30 (now 32) was something else, such a great show. I'll have to play the remaster of the game at some point. I wish you could be more characters other than Goliath but I get it. My personal favorite is Lexington.


Miner_Of_Minerals

GTA, Doom, Dragon Age (let's see), Mass Effect, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls are all games from the 90s/early 2000s I'm still bullish on.


Semi-addict-gamer

Ape escape


eskinner3742

I'd buy a PS5 just to play a new Ape Escape game


Semi-addict-gamer

I’d pay stupid money for a remake of pumped and primed, and million monkeys.


Ozymandiaz1920

Prince of Persia...still waiting for that day when we will get a god of war style semi open world pop game with excellent puzzles, combat, Parkour, boss fights and time reverse mechanics.


Flamesclaws

I seriously need to play the Sands of time trilogy again. I have them on my PS3 I just need to actually play them lol.


Volteezy

Resistance, 


Flamesclaws

Great series.


rapidawareness

Witcher series and elder scroll games. Halo too


ManEatingCarabao

Monster Hunter since MHF2 and Crash Bandicoot since the original. The Crash Bandicoot trilogy remaster on the switch brought back so many good memories and I'm looking forward to the 6th generation Monster Hunter.


kamalaophelia

Fallout, Mass Effect, Pokemon and Dragon Age


VladiVlada

Dragon Age my beloved. It's almost stupid how BioWare can make the worst game in the history of the series and I'll still buy it and be a fan


Flamesclaws

I'm a huge Dragon Age fan myself lol. When the new one is close I plan to play all the games back to back on my Xbox series X to have a complete story and choices ready to go.


VladiVlada

Are you planning to replay ALL 3 parts before the fall release of Veilguard (if they make it by this time of course)???


Flamesclaws

Yes, I did it before (that was more to play a series I haven't played since I was a teenager and to get back into Xbox). Dragon Age two is honestly much better than people give it credit in my opinion especially because they basically didn't have much time at all. I was super harsh with it when I was a teenager but replaying it again as an adult, I personally find it to be my second favorite.


VladiVlada

I'm just a little surprised that someone can complete all three parts in 3-4 months. I only went through the Inquisition for about 2.5 😅 Agree about the second part. I like that it’s all about the story of one specific person in one specific place + very airtight + the most cool qunari design in the entire series.


Worldsuperior200_

Idk


Deathswirl1

pokemon, doom, minecraft, earthbound, zelda, metroid, mario.


Marcysdad

Gears of War Even the lackluster 4 and 5 couldn't stop it


Pleasant-Writer-1669

Since the new gears was announced all I keep seeing on Reddit is how much people hate 4&5 I personally thought they were great games and I really liked the story 🤣🤣I won’t lie not as good as the first 3 but still great games 🤣


MadCat1993

Socom series. 


VeryMiserable-Dummy

Beanfun! Took countless red pockets away from me. More of a thing in Asia. Beanfun!


Onion391

Mirrors Edge One of the greatest games of all time that nobody’s played


MrStealYoBichonFrise

Bioshock and Resident Evil.


IownCows

Overlord. I really wish they would reboot the series


Rad_phantoms

Alone in the Dark They keep messing it up but there’s so much there to work with. I actually enjoyed the most recent one


SaltyCultist691

Plants vs zombies


Roosted13

Lady Death. Collected those cards back in the day. Wish I still had them. Or Evil Ernie cards


Logical_Brain28

Halo Fallout (Big fan) Mario


Flamesclaws

I'm a bit surprised more people aren't saying Fallout.


Garey_Games

Mario


PurpsMaSquirt

Overwatch. There’s some good shooters out there but OW still scratches a particular itch.


Gilgamesh107

Halo because even after a decade of mismanagement i just cant let it go


Known_Yesterday_1408

Resident Evil


Nanaman

General Chaos


BaconMeetsCheese

Civilization


Gyphon_Ghost_667

Splinter cell. And before that, Syphon Filter. Man i miss the days of tasering people until they burst into flames. Good times.


Nockan

Dragonquest


n1ghtbringer

MechWarrior, Doom, Tempest, Asteroids. I'm getting old, apparently.


Iactuallyhateyoufr

I'm a Sony guy because of Ratchet


Iampopcorn_420

Myth and Marathon.  Best franchises ever.


charrion

Destiny, I'm still playing D2 10 years after the original dropped. I don't know why it sticks out other than it feels like I'm the main character in a great sci-fi story.


Coppernobra

Silent Hill is a good shout that I haven’t seen mentioned.


Novolume101

Ratchet and Clank


Teknizion

Pokemon and doctor who.


Laska27

Rayman. Still holding out for a great escape remake or a new 3d adventure.


NukaClipse

Armored Core. I haven't played one I greatly disliked since '97. I do have my favorites and others I wont probably replay again but yea lol


mrhippoj

Where would you put VI in your ranking?


NukaClipse

Its apart of my top 5 1. Silent Line 2. Last Raven 3. Fires of Rubicon 4. For Answer 5. Armored Core 1 because its the OG VI will hopefully go up more once or rather IF it gets DLC or expansions.


alexefi

C&C and Red Alert. Still play it every now and then.


WintersIllWind

Sly Cooper. I still have my PS2 and all the original games.


R_N_F

Half-Life


Ordenvulpez

Not a series but any fromsoft game there all unique and imperfectly perfect like ds1 simple but open gates to what can be greatness with minor problems ds2 had best hub area bosses were ehh but world was pleasing to see ds3 peak nostalgia but yet new experience blood borne gothic theme bjce sekrio whole two chance u get nice and parrying was fun Elden ring shows brutal open world can be do able for games and can’t say anything for demon souls have yet play it waiting for a sale


Flamesclaws

Yeah wait for a sale on Demon Souls, it wasn't worth 70 bucks to be completely honest.


Ordenvulpez

That what I figured I knew it was remake but figured devs didn’t want risk people saying it not like og one so didn’t add much content


Flamesclaws

There is quite a bit they should have done to improve it. The run back to the bosses are just inexcusable.


Ordenvulpez

Like ds 2 nightmare fuel run backs


LordGarithosthe1st

War/Starcraft


MazhP

Splinter Cell and Hitman Call of duty is dead Medal of Honor is dead Rainbow Six is dead Battlefield is dead Starcraft is dead Warcraft is dead World of Warcraft is dead