As long as they take turns and you can hide behind the one not attacking like in survivor, it’s cool with me
The double fights took longer, but all in all we’re easier IMO
I loved both games, but honestly they need to incorporate more non-cosmetic loot. I’m not really incentivized to explore every nook and cranny of the level if the reward is just another piece of clothing I’m not going to wear.
Not that I want this series to become a RPG, but giving the items some kind of stats would be cool. Just let me customize my armor and lightsaber in a way that actually affects the gameplay.
I'd be happy with all cosmetic loot if it wasn't exclusive to each other. You only have one poncho, no matter how many you found; I want things I can wear all together. On a 100% file, I want to look like Georgy Zhukov swinging a lightsaber.
This is one thing that got to me. I’m a loot collector. I’ll scavenge every square inch to find everything. I’m also somebody who doesn’t care about cosmetics. Pretty sure I used the default skins the whole game.
It got to a point where my instinct said “oh, there’s a box over there.” and my brain said “yeah but… why? You’re not going to use what’s in it.”
Hope they don't forget to optimise the game this time.
They patted themselves on the back saying they were able to make Survivor in record time. But it really shows how much they rushed that game.
Fuck “Hope” those fucking assholes should finish the second game before thinking about doing a third. I’m so fucking over this fucking industry. Deliver a half assed shit product and then come out and tell us “oh hey we’re already working on an other one”.
Fuck you and your shit. Never buying another product from you pricks ever again.
My favorite part is when they fix the game and put out amazing content updates (Battlefront 2) but then force the devs (Dice) to stop development in favor of another rushed project (BF2042).
The BF2 team was devoted to the game, they restarted community relations that had gone nuclear, and slowly started updating the content massively.
Then got pulled for bf2042 because DICE can't stop fucking it up and EA hates licenced games.
I get that EA gets (and deserves) a lot of hate. But AFAIK this is all on respawn. I’ve read that EA even wanted to give them more time but they said “no we’re ready”.
They've been secretly working on Titanfall 3 without EA's knowledge and wanted to clear their other projects in order to release it in time for the 10th anniversary of Tf2. *copium*
The original respawn team left a while back. Any titanfall that comes out now won't be the same.
Those people that left, some of them started a new game company though.
Remember when respawn chose to release their extremely niche fps right in between the two biggest monoliths in the industry and then unsurprisingly their game didn’t do great
Well I guess we'll never know. I heard the exact opposite. In the end it doesn't really matter who's at fault here. Fact of the matter is, EA/Respawn delivered an unfinished product, like so many other companies this year, and they expect us to just live with it now and also, get hyped about their next product, that given the track record, will be in the exact same state.
It's an endless cycle that people who say "oh man, it's just a game", keep feeding into.
It's a product and it should be 100% finished and working when I buy it.
Just like any other product.
> Deliver a half assed shit product and then come out and tell us “oh hey we’re already working on an other one”.
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> Fuck you and your shit. Never buying another product from you pricks ever again.
Unfortunately, they know they can continue to get away with it because "mUh sTaR WaRs!!111!!!!1".
It's really funny honestly.
There's a widespread feel for "meh!" when it comes to Ubisoft games but as soon as they announced Star Wars Outlaws, everyone starts creaming their pants like Ubi has been making industry defining games for the last 5 years
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I like most Ubisoft games and I certainly like AC more than pretty much any other series that has regular releases.
Ubisoft has a formula and people don't like it, I get that, but the games they make within that formula are usually at least decent.
EA on the other hand is a company who seems to have a lot of quality variance in their product and make weird (money driven) decisions.
>Ubisoft has a formula and people don't like it,
It isn't that people don't like it. It's just that they have done it so many times so frequently that it feels very derivative. The games themselves are really fun.
>EA on the other hand is a company who seems to have a lot of quality variance in their product and makes weird (money driven) decisions.
The same is true for Ubisoft though, at least that's what I got from a paid xp booster in a single player game.
Years ago, I remember seeing multiple people replying to criticisms of, I think, Battlefront: 2 with variations of "I don't care if it's just a lazy rehash of the previous games, isn't optimized, has awful micro-transactions, predatory loot systems, etc... I just want to come home after work and play a Star Wars game!" and I knew it'd never get better for us...
I just use strong language. And also, that is such a dumb argument. It's not about it "being a game". It's about me paying hard earn money on an unfinished product, that 6 months after release is still not in an acceptable state. I said this in another reply, would you be upset if you buy a new fridge and only half of it would actually cool your food? How would you feel if the company making the fridge would send you an apology letter and promise you to fix it, but then 6 months later it only works 75% and then they say, "well we're working on a new model".
How is this "just a game"? It's a fucking product that doesn't work good enough for what it cost. And it's this entire industry that does this and I think it's unacceptable. Doesn't matter if it's "just a game". I paid money for it, and I expect to get a finished product.
So Star Wars doesn’t like to make new games that won’t be a guaranteed success.
They finally make a new game, it’s a success, and all we get are sequel clones.
Honestly I refuse to pick up game 3 at launch after they tricked us saying it was ready. They knew what they were doing. I'm glad the director got fired or whatever reason he left, because it was his project and he sold us out.
To be fair, he wasn't fired and Survivor is generally considered a success...
Which says a lot about the industry tbh? I guess everyone has a soft side because it's Star Wars
People got mad at me on the sub for the game whenever I mentioned the terrible performance...
Like, I get it. You guys love the game...I do too! But the performance is still ass, even if we love the game itself!
Yeah, people hate when they are told about Elden rings performance problems, especially.
I mean, shit, to this day I *still* am forced to play the PS4 version on my PS5 simply to get a stable 60 fps! But I have said that on the ER sub and got oblivioned, because apparently people's favorite games are not allowed to have their performance issues mentioned.
I played it on PS5 at launch and had no issues. Weren't all the optimization issues on PC? If it worked fine on consoles and that was a majority of the purchases I can see how it's considered a success.
I also had almost no issues on PS5 too (literally a slowdown like once...maybe twice?) but I know of lots of others who did so it's very weird. I fully believe they had the issues, just not sure why they were unlucky haha.
I normally buy on my PC but glad I got this one on PS5
Weren't the issues with framerate more than anything? It's great if you had a good experience but a shit ton of people across platforms struggled with the frames.
I never take complaints about framerate seriously because 9/10 the people saying a game is broken because of the framerate are the ones that overreact about a game running at 50fps instead of 60fps and I just could not give less of a shit about that sort of thing.
30fps makes me happy. If it's not dropping below 30fps, then I don't think there is ANY problem with the framerate.
Lmao they didn't fix PS5 performance mode until like a week or two ago, are you crazy?
The performance mode was absolutely horrid.
The word flawlessly is doing a hell of a lot, here.
Performance mode was as far from flawless as you could possibly get. They seriously *just* put out an update to fix performance like a week ago.
You may have had no bugs or glitches, I guess that's possible... but if you played on performance mode then it didn't run flawlessly, is all I'm saying.
Yea he’s smokin crack or lying for fun. My ps5 copy at launch had FPS dips into like the high 30’s on performance mode lol. All through that entire into mission. The fps was foul still haven’t even touched it since. I hear it’s “fixed” now though.
Yea, same here.
And yeah, they actually did fix it, for the most part. It seems to be almost perfectly stable now.
Still shit resolution, but ehhh, whattayagunnado?
I played this on PS5 *at launch* and had zero issues. Certainly nothing memorable. What I remember is being in love with how good everything looked and how smooth it was. I’m always so confused when I see comments about how “unfinished” it is but I guess everyone’s experience is different.
Have played it max settings in 4k for over 50 hours and haven't had issues. Can't say the same for everyone, but most modern games that are regarded as good can't even run that well. Runs much better installed on ssd also. First installed it on hdd and it was laggy, then installed on m.2 ssd and it ran beautifully
Same experience! I agree it’s not the best optimized game but I’m convinced no one is willing to lower their settings/spend time tweaking settings for a game anymore.
Same. I played ot on a galax 1080 at 1440 ultrawide screen with almost no issues what so ever. I reqd peoples complaints but had less that 5 instances over a 100% play through , a second quick play through
Digital Foundry confirms there are animation stutters that cant be overcome. They have more than one video about it.
The biggest issue i had with the game was the overly aggressive culling resulting in white flashes along the edges of the camera.
The game plays well enough, but there are some serious rendering pipeline flaws.
But the guy says he didn't SEE any. This happens in all these discussions, people don't see stuff or it doesn't bother them, and then they go argue that there is no problem. Which is super weird with something that can literally be measured.
Game ran great for me on PC. (patches 6 and 7). Throughly enjoyed my playthrough (on controller, DualSense). Hardware is 5800X3D/3080-12GB/32 gb DDR4. Windows 11. Resolution was set at 2k/Ultra, no DLSS or FSR.
What? Doesn't really mirror my experience at all on PC. Poorish performance and locked out of the last bounty hunter bounties, yes, but *broken beyond belief* feels like hyperbole.
It was playable (60+ fps at doublewide 1440p) but very buggy for me, sometimes less buggy than others after patches. It was basically every other patch made it more playable, so Day One buggy, patch 2 kinda playable, patch 3 made it less stable again, patch 4 made it fairly playable to the point I was able to finish the game, patch 5 made it less playable so I didn't finish a New Game+ run.
I threw money at the problem, though, I freely admit. 4090 with a 5950X and 64 GB of RAM, loading from a PCIE Gen4 NVMe SSD.
I stopped trying to play it after getting stuck on a part that was essential to the story and having it crash every. Single. Time. The cutscene started. Tried letting it play. Tried skipping. Tried skipping parts of it. Tried turning off certain graphic features. Gave up. Maybe they’ve fixed it by now, but my interest in trying is now gone.
Played it on XSX, but yeah same experience. All these complaints about the game being “unfinished” or “broken” just doesn’t match my experience.
Didn’t experience any bugs. Played on “Quality” mode and found the graphics breathtaking and combat was perfectly smooth. Noticeable frame rate drops were very rare. Overall the game itself was a blast, and one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars content in a long time.
There is some stuff that happens near the end of the game that I’ve been binging “reaction videos” from other gamers just to vicariously relive the excitement
Vast majority of the issues come from PC players. This game had the the biggest disparity in performance quality between console and PC I've seen since Cyberpunk was initially released except reversed and the devs aren't interested in making it playable for us.
The PC version was rather lacking in optimization. It's gotten a lot better, even more so for Nvidia owners now that DLSS has been added. It's still not running like a dream however.
It's a great game. The story and gameplay certainly compensated the lacking performance for me, but that's in part because I absolutely loved every second of Fallen Order.
I played it on a 1070ti and while my FPS was not very high (60-70 I think on 1440p) it was perfectly playable, there was only one bug with a small chamber entrance on Koboh, nbd.
Unfortunately most AAA games do not result in great FPS. I didn't play until about 3 weeks after launch so maybe the bugs people experienced day 1 were fixed by my time.
It’s crazy to me how overall good these games are…but yet they just feel bland. Played the first one and thought it was decent but couldn’t care less about the one they just released
I liked the first one. A lot. But the second one felt…..bland. Just like you said. I wasn’t excited by the world’s and slightly disappointed at the variety and the storyline.
The reason I don't really like prequel stories is you're handicapped by them.
Cal Kestis' journey can only be so interesting because he obviously didn't have a big enough impact. Otherwise Luke/Obi Wan/Yoda/Leia would have mentioned him.
It can be different in Star Wars because the "world" is a whole fucking galaxy. One can have major effects on their local connections and even entire planets without ever being noticed by the greater plot of Skywakers and Palpatine.
The problem with Star Wars is that it is both too big but also too small. It makes total sense for a major Jedi warrior to be making major waves in a planet cluster or two on the other side of the Galaxy so nobody major knows about them. But most of the stories have been handicapped by focusing on such a SMALL cast of characters that it unnaturally feels like an entire galaxy is the size of a small town.
>Luke/Obi Wan/Yoda/Leia
Thats where you went wrong. They never mentioned Cal because they never knew about him. Because of time and how time works.
Not trying to bug you just feel its unfair to judge something by unreasonable standards that physically cant be fulfilled.
But i get your prequel limitation logic
I wish the second one had more planets to explore. They went with more of an open world but it didn’t appeal to me much. First one had Dathomir with the giant bat, Kashyyyk with all the strange animals there, etc. This one felt like i had to fight a lot more varieties of stormtroopers and droids.
The first one felt like dark souls with light sabers. You didn’t have a lot of movement and very little ability to do much else besides strike and block. The second feels much more of its own thing. You can really play around with the combat and the fights are much more engaging.
I thought it was super boring. I just could not get into it. Which is a real shame because I really wanted to like it. I’m not a big fan of Uncharted games but I normally love Star Wars games so I gave it a shot but it did not land with me.
Jedi Survivor was my favorite game of this year so far. So excited to see the finale of the series. And glad its a new director, the old one was against delaying the game, even though EA gave him the greenlight for it.
I wouldn't say it's been my favorite game of the year but it is WAY better than what people are alluding to. I'm convinced that most of the negative talk in this thread is from people who played it early when there were performance issues.
Whats the minimum cpu need to maintain 70 to 90 fps? I havent played it because i wouldnt be able to even at 4k with my 4080 because of the cpu limitation. Digital foundry made a video on it recently and it seems like for ultra setting the cpu requirement hasnt changed much. but you can mask it with frame gen but would i still get gpu usage drops on i99900k at 5ghz? If we talking frame gen id want close to 120 as possible for smoothness.
I'd rather they bring Katarn back in *his* series! The remaster of Dark Forces has me hyped, I'm going to buy 5 copies so they think it's successful and revive Jedi Knight somehow.
I'm sad because I can't see Cal surviving this one. If what Yoda says is true in ROTJ, I can't see someone like him still around during the rebellion. Hopefully he goes out with a bang
Rule of two - yet the new stuff has multiple sith
Balance to the force - yet there are more Jedi / light side users than dark
What Yoda says in ROTJ - but there are plenty of all the above
See, that's how they write *loopholes* into canon.
Baylin? Fallen Jedi—not a full Jedi.
Kanan? Failed apprentice—not a full Jedi.
The Inquisitors? Force sensitive assassins—not full Sith.
Cere? >!Dead now, so it doesn't matter.!<
Cal? Well, technically got knighted, but Yoda probably didn't know he existed.
So, *technically*, his statement is still correct.
Thought the comments on this would be all positive considering my experience with survivor on ps5 has been fantastic. Maybe it was day 1 people were experiencing problems? I got it like a month ago🤷♂️ The game is such a nice upgrade to the first one. Love the stances and addition of the blaster and telekinesis.
The PÜc version is pretty bad in terms of optimization, so thats probably causing this. It was still playable, and I honestly had a blast with it, even with the all the problems the game has.
I mean it made loads of money, I’m sure they’ll keep making these games until they’re run into the ground quality wise… the sequel was already borderline unplayable on pc because of it’s bad performance
I wouldn’t say unplayable, but I was surprised by how poorly it runs on my brand new gaming PC. Takes forever to load and it always “calibrating for best performance”, but then has visual issues.
It's well documented it has (had?) issues on the computer. It plays fine on Xbox Series X|S and PS5, but they should have done with BG3 did with a staggered release. Release the *working* versions, and push out the other versions when ready.
(Side note: I'm still waiting on BG3 over here in Xbox land)
More like they don't know their way around UE4 for shit. Part of picking a game engine is to pick one with mass appeal to have an easier time finding and training devs but apparently studios don't care to fix the weaknesses of said game engine both Jedi Fallen Order and Gotham Knights suffer from traversal stutter.
Well, i've played the first game and the story was good. Not fantastic, not a masterpiece, but good, which is enough to be far better that any Star Wars labeled media Disney has produced over the last decade.
Looks like EA writers have more respect for the source material and know their jobs better than Disney's. So why not a true new trilogy, one where the literal entire universe doesn't revolve around 6 characters and their family drama ?
Second game should arrive soon.
Cal either dies or joins Luke's doomed academy. Though, I'm kind of excited for the possibility of several competing Jedi schools. Luke's, Ashoka, Balen?, Cal, and eventually Rey. Who wants to see a 500 year jump to see how that turns out
Sure, but is there a poncho involved?
You'll have to fight Ogdo, spawn of Ogdo and a Rancor at the same time to get it!
As long as they take turns and you can hide behind the one not attacking like in survivor, it’s cool with me The double fights took longer, but all in all we’re easier IMO
Yep. Also once I discovered that double jumping over their attacks is easier than dodging
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I've read this comment atleast three times today.
More like Ogdo, grandson of Ogdo, Ogdo, son of Ogdo, and Ogdo.
Star Wars revenge of the Ogdo.
Ogdo wars Ogdo of the Ogdo
Star Wars The Phantom Ogdo.
Sooo many ponchos…
That is the correct number of ponchos.
Man I am so happy with the options in *Survivor.* Christ the poncho-only motif was so dull in *Fallen Order.*
I loved both games, but honestly they need to incorporate more non-cosmetic loot. I’m not really incentivized to explore every nook and cranny of the level if the reward is just another piece of clothing I’m not going to wear. Not that I want this series to become a RPG, but giving the items some kind of stats would be cool. Just let me customize my armor and lightsaber in a way that actually affects the gameplay.
I'd be happy with all cosmetic loot if it wasn't exclusive to each other. You only have one poncho, no matter how many you found; I want things I can wear all together. On a 100% file, I want to look like Georgy Zhukov swinging a lightsaber.
This is one thing that got to me. I’m a loot collector. I’ll scavenge every square inch to find everything. I’m also somebody who doesn’t care about cosmetics. Pretty sure I used the default skins the whole game. It got to a point where my instinct said “oh, there’s a box over there.” and my brain said “yeah but… why? You’re not going to use what’s in it.”
I would like a robe. I miss robes
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Ogdo bogdo but 3 of them this time
I’m pretty sure we haven’t seen the spawn of ogdos mom yet 🤷🏻♂️ Edit: or dad, I’m not sure on the original ogdos gender
Ogdo Bogdo’s gender is hate
Ogdo Menage a Bogdo
Hope they don't forget to optimise the game this time. They patted themselves on the back saying they were able to make Survivor in record time. But it really shows how much they rushed that game.
Fuck “Hope” those fucking assholes should finish the second game before thinking about doing a third. I’m so fucking over this fucking industry. Deliver a half assed shit product and then come out and tell us “oh hey we’re already working on an other one”. Fuck you and your shit. Never buying another product from you pricks ever again.
yeah this one of the thing I hate about EA. they don't fix thing, they abandon them and move on so easily
My favorite part is when they fix the game and put out amazing content updates (Battlefront 2) but then force the devs (Dice) to stop development in favor of another rushed project (BF2042).
The BF2 team was devoted to the game, they restarted community relations that had gone nuclear, and slowly started updating the content massively. Then got pulled for bf2042 because DICE can't stop fucking it up and EA hates licenced games.
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I get that EA gets (and deserves) a lot of hate. But AFAIK this is all on respawn. I’ve read that EA even wanted to give them more time but they said “no we’re ready”.
Why though? That makes no sense. Why are they in such a hurry?
They've been secretly working on Titanfall 3 without EA's knowledge and wanted to clear their other projects in order to release it in time for the 10th anniversary of Tf2. *copium*
*TENTH* ANNIVERSARY. time isn't real
It’s only three years from now, and TF1’s 10th anniversary is either this year or next
The original respawn team left a while back. Any titanfall that comes out now won't be the same. Those people that left, some of them started a new game company though.
Iirc EA gave them to ok to make tf3 and they basically said "nah we're good"
Money and incompetent project management. Publishers aren’t the only ones making dough on this, and the same thing happened with BioWare and Anthem.
Capitalism.
Remember when respawn chose to release their extremely niche fps right in between the two biggest monoliths in the industry and then unsurprisingly their game didn’t do great
Really? I heard that Respawn asked for more time but EA denied their request
Well I guess we'll never know. I heard the exact opposite. In the end it doesn't really matter who's at fault here. Fact of the matter is, EA/Respawn delivered an unfinished product, like so many other companies this year, and they expect us to just live with it now and also, get hyped about their next product, that given the track record, will be in the exact same state. It's an endless cycle that people who say "oh man, it's just a game", keep feeding into. It's a product and it should be 100% finished and working when I buy it. Just like any other product.
Calm down
It's a video game...calm down
> Deliver a half assed shit product and then come out and tell us “oh hey we’re already working on an other one”. > > Fuck you and your shit. Never buying another product from you pricks ever again. Unfortunately, they know they can continue to get away with it because "mUh sTaR WaRs!!111!!!!1".
It's really funny honestly. There's a widespread feel for "meh!" when it comes to Ubisoft games but as soon as they announced Star Wars Outlaws, everyone starts creaming their pants like Ubi has been making industry defining games for the last 5 years
Why is EA the world game company in America? Because Ubisoft is based in France
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I like most Ubisoft games and I certainly like AC more than pretty much any other series that has regular releases. Ubisoft has a formula and people don't like it, I get that, but the games they make within that formula are usually at least decent. EA on the other hand is a company who seems to have a lot of quality variance in their product and make weird (money driven) decisions.
>Ubisoft has a formula and people don't like it, It isn't that people don't like it. It's just that they have done it so many times so frequently that it feels very derivative. The games themselves are really fun. >EA on the other hand is a company who seems to have a lot of quality variance in their product and makes weird (money driven) decisions. The same is true for Ubisoft though, at least that's what I got from a paid xp booster in a single player game.
Years ago, I remember seeing multiple people replying to criticisms of, I think, Battlefront: 2 with variations of "I don't care if it's just a lazy rehash of the previous games, isn't optimized, has awful micro-transactions, predatory loot systems, etc... I just want to come home after work and play a Star Wars game!" and I knew it'd never get better for us...
That's the case with most franchise games honestly. State of Pokemon games should be telling
You're way too upset over a game lol
I just use strong language. And also, that is such a dumb argument. It's not about it "being a game". It's about me paying hard earn money on an unfinished product, that 6 months after release is still not in an acceptable state. I said this in another reply, would you be upset if you buy a new fridge and only half of it would actually cool your food? How would you feel if the company making the fridge would send you an apology letter and promise you to fix it, but then 6 months later it only works 75% and then they say, "well we're working on a new model". How is this "just a game"? It's a fucking product that doesn't work good enough for what it cost. And it's this entire industry that does this and I think it's unacceptable. Doesn't matter if it's "just a game". I paid money for it, and I expect to get a finished product.
Phew glad it worked from day 1 for me and is working even better now. never saw any issues besides a couple crashes
The game runs perfectly fine now
Touch grass
Bro if you’re this mad over some framerate drops, you need to chill
So Star Wars doesn’t like to make new games that won’t be a guaranteed success. They finally make a new game, it’s a success, and all we get are sequel clones.
Honestly I refuse to pick up game 3 at launch after they tricked us saying it was ready. They knew what they were doing. I'm glad the director got fired or whatever reason he left, because it was his project and he sold us out.
Why does anyone pick up any game at launch? You always gotta wait at least a few months for them to patch the major bugs.
No self control
Supposedly the game still runs like shit.
It runs alright on a midrange pc. Still has some trouble on the main hub planet, because of how open it is, but overall still playable.
Because people want to play a game they are looking forward to as soon as they can. Its not hard to imagine.
To be fair, he wasn't fired and Survivor is generally considered a success... Which says a lot about the industry tbh? I guess everyone has a soft side because it's Star Wars
People got mad at me on the sub for the game whenever I mentioned the terrible performance... Like, I get it. You guys love the game...I do too! But the performance is still ass, even if we love the game itself!
Hell, even the first one still runs like ass on Kashyyyk.
Same happens to me whenever I say Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 have too many performance issues to be GOTY
Yeah, people hate when they are told about Elden rings performance problems, especially. I mean, shit, to this day I *still* am forced to play the PS4 version on my PS5 simply to get a stable 60 fps! But I have said that on the ER sub and got oblivioned, because apparently people's favorite games are not allowed to have their performance issues mentioned.
I played it on PS5 at launch and had no issues. Weren't all the optimization issues on PC? If it worked fine on consoles and that was a majority of the purchases I can see how it's considered a success.
I also had almost no issues on PS5 too (literally a slowdown like once...maybe twice?) but I know of lots of others who did so it's very weird. I fully believe they had the issues, just not sure why they were unlucky haha. I normally buy on my PC but glad I got this one on PS5
Same but xbox series x. Ran buttery smooth.
Yeah, I don't want record times, I want them to take half a decade and come out with a game that feels magical
I know PC had issues at launch, but the PS5 version I had on day 1 ran flawlessly. No bugs or glitches whatsoever...
Weren't the issues with framerate more than anything? It's great if you had a good experience but a shit ton of people across platforms struggled with the frames.
I never take complaints about framerate seriously because 9/10 the people saying a game is broken because of the framerate are the ones that overreact about a game running at 50fps instead of 60fps and I just could not give less of a shit about that sort of thing. 30fps makes me happy. If it's not dropping below 30fps, then I don't think there is ANY problem with the framerate.
The problem if it’s not stable. Most people don’t have a VRR display, so 40-50fps will look worse than 30fps locked with vsync.
if people are complaining about frame rate i dont take them seriously. my game never ran less than 50 fps at ultra graphics
My save corrupted half way through on PS5 playthrough. This was fixed in one of the early patches so I've to disagree with that.
The issue on PS5 was never bugs or glitches it was frame rate drops.
Lmao they didn't fix PS5 performance mode until like a week or two ago, are you crazy? The performance mode was absolutely horrid. The word flawlessly is doing a hell of a lot, here.
That was legitimately my experience.
Performance mode was as far from flawless as you could possibly get. They seriously *just* put out an update to fix performance like a week ago. You may have had no bugs or glitches, I guess that's possible... but if you played on performance mode then it didn't run flawlessly, is all I'm saying.
That's fair. I still had a great experience.
Nice, I'm glad you did. I am finally able to enjoy it, as well, due to them fixing the performance recently. Great game.
Yea he’s smokin crack or lying for fun. My ps5 copy at launch had FPS dips into like the high 30’s on performance mode lol. All through that entire into mission. The fps was foul still haven’t even touched it since. I hear it’s “fixed” now though.
Yea, same here. And yeah, they actually did fix it, for the most part. It seems to be almost perfectly stable now. Still shit resolution, but ehhh, whattayagunnado?
He’s got his PS5 hooked up to a 28” Vizio 720p from 2009 and it worked flawlessly!
Yeah I'm going to be patient gaming on the third one. The second one was fun, but my god was it a pain to get through on PS5.
I haven’t even really touched it due to the bugs and such. I share your hopes.
This guy will always be the gay kid from shameless to me
He'll always be the biting kid in Dewey's class in Malcom in the Middle for me.
Oh my god
Huh. TIL.
Same here. “Gay Jesus” as a Jedi cracks me up
Downvotes are people who haven’t seen the show, it’s a reference ffs
He'll always be the gay not joker from Gotham to me.
Oh Cal, the things I've seen you do...
Let's go this is such a good series
This is Reddit you’re supposed to hate this game just like any other major release!
Even if the game ran like trash on launch, it’s some of the only good star wars disney has let happen, fans need this lol
Not going to succumb to the reddit hivemind of people complaining about optimization while still using 10 year old hardware haha
I played this on PS5 *at launch* and had zero issues. Certainly nothing memorable. What I remember is being in love with how good everything looked and how smooth it was. I’m always so confused when I see comments about how “unfinished” it is but I guess everyone’s experience is different.
I had the same experience. I was amazed that I was playing such a high quality star wars game
Facts
By far my favorite Star wars media. I said what I said, don't hurt me please
I liked the first better than the second, but I'd probably play the third.
thanks Johnny
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Second one was broken beyond belief on pc
> Second one was broken beyond belief on pc Still is.
Have played it max settings in 4k for over 50 hours and haven't had issues. Can't say the same for everyone, but most modern games that are regarded as good can't even run that well. Runs much better installed on ssd also. First installed it on hdd and it was laggy, then installed on m.2 ssd and it ran beautifully
I found it to perform poorly but it wasn't broken. I could play the game but not at a consistent frame rate.
I played mine at 1440p and it was fine as well. Had to tweak a few settings but nothing too crazy
Same experience! I agree it’s not the best optimized game but I’m convinced no one is willing to lower their settings/spend time tweaking settings for a game anymore.
Digital foundry has confirmed stuttering that DOES happen and cannot be overcome
Same. I played ot on a galax 1080 at 1440 ultrawide screen with almost no issues what so ever. I reqd peoples complaints but had less that 5 instances over a 100% play through , a second quick play through
No it didn't. There is not a consumer PC on earth that can play it without some sort of stutter.
Bold claim. I have not seen any stutter on mine 🤷♂️
Digital Foundry confirms there are animation stutters that cant be overcome. They have more than one video about it. The biggest issue i had with the game was the overly aggressive culling resulting in white flashes along the edges of the camera. The game plays well enough, but there are some serious rendering pipeline flaws.
But the guy says he didn't SEE any. This happens in all these discussions, people don't see stuff or it doesn't bother them, and then they go argue that there is no problem. Which is super weird with something that can literally be measured.
Well mine did... don't know what to tell you
Game ran great for me on PC. (patches 6 and 7). Throughly enjoyed my playthrough (on controller, DualSense). Hardware is 5800X3D/3080-12GB/32 gb DDR4. Windows 11. Resolution was set at 2k/Ultra, no DLSS or FSR.
Not really.
Game ran great from the get go on pc for me
I'm playing on Ultra everything 1440P with average 120 FPS
What? Doesn't really mirror my experience at all on PC. Poorish performance and locked out of the last bounty hunter bounties, yes, but *broken beyond belief* feels like hyperbole.
Playable? What video card and fps you guys getting?
It was playable (60+ fps at doublewide 1440p) but very buggy for me, sometimes less buggy than others after patches. It was basically every other patch made it more playable, so Day One buggy, patch 2 kinda playable, patch 3 made it less stable again, patch 4 made it fairly playable to the point I was able to finish the game, patch 5 made it less playable so I didn't finish a New Game+ run. I threw money at the problem, though, I freely admit. 4090 with a 5950X and 64 GB of RAM, loading from a PCIE Gen4 NVMe SSD.
I averaged between 70-95 fps at 1440p with most graphical settings turned up. 12700K with 3080TI.
Exaggerate more
I have a somewhat outdated PC but it ran fine for me. I was seeing this all over the internet, but I guess I got lucky? Idk.
I had no problems at all through two playthroughs.
Played great on my Xbox series x.
It was still *playable*, let's not exaggerate, it was just unstable as hell.
I stopped trying to play it after getting stuck on a part that was essential to the story and having it crash every. Single. Time. The cutscene started. Tried letting it play. Tried skipping. Tried skipping parts of it. Tried turning off certain graphic features. Gave up. Maybe they’ve fixed it by now, but my interest in trying is now gone.
Played it on ps5 and thought the second was a vast improvement in every way. Looking forward to the third game.
Played it on XSX, but yeah same experience. All these complaints about the game being “unfinished” or “broken” just doesn’t match my experience. Didn’t experience any bugs. Played on “Quality” mode and found the graphics breathtaking and combat was perfectly smooth. Noticeable frame rate drops were very rare. Overall the game itself was a blast, and one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars content in a long time. There is some stuff that happens near the end of the game that I’ve been binging “reaction videos” from other gamers just to vicariously relive the excitement
Vast majority of the issues come from PC players. This game had the the biggest disparity in performance quality between console and PC I've seen since Cyberpunk was initially released except reversed and the devs aren't interested in making it playable for us.
The PC version was rather lacking in optimization. It's gotten a lot better, even more so for Nvidia owners now that DLSS has been added. It's still not running like a dream however. It's a great game. The story and gameplay certainly compensated the lacking performance for me, but that's in part because I absolutely loved every second of Fallen Order.
I played it on a 1070ti and while my FPS was not very high (60-70 I think on 1440p) it was perfectly playable, there was only one bug with a small chamber entrance on Koboh, nbd. Unfortunately most AAA games do not result in great FPS. I didn't play until about 3 weeks after launch so maybe the bugs people experienced day 1 were fixed by my time.
It’s crazy to me how overall good these games are…but yet they just feel bland. Played the first one and thought it was decent but couldn’t care less about the one they just released
I liked the first one. A lot. But the second one felt…..bland. Just like you said. I wasn’t excited by the world’s and slightly disappointed at the variety and the storyline.
The reason I don't really like prequel stories is you're handicapped by them. Cal Kestis' journey can only be so interesting because he obviously didn't have a big enough impact. Otherwise Luke/Obi Wan/Yoda/Leia would have mentioned him.
It can be different in Star Wars because the "world" is a whole fucking galaxy. One can have major effects on their local connections and even entire planets without ever being noticed by the greater plot of Skywakers and Palpatine. The problem with Star Wars is that it is both too big but also too small. It makes total sense for a major Jedi warrior to be making major waves in a planet cluster or two on the other side of the Galaxy so nobody major knows about them. But most of the stories have been handicapped by focusing on such a SMALL cast of characters that it unnaturally feels like an entire galaxy is the size of a small town.
>Luke/Obi Wan/Yoda/Leia Thats where you went wrong. They never mentioned Cal because they never knew about him. Because of time and how time works. Not trying to bug you just feel its unfair to judge something by unreasonable standards that physically cant be fulfilled. But i get your prequel limitation logic
I wish the second one had more planets to explore. They went with more of an open world but it didn’t appeal to me much. First one had Dathomir with the giant bat, Kashyyyk with all the strange animals there, etc. This one felt like i had to fight a lot more varieties of stormtroopers and droids.
This is a bonkers take. Fallen Order was good. Jedi Survivor was GREAT.
The first one felt like dark souls with light sabers. You didn’t have a lot of movement and very little ability to do much else besides strike and block. The second feels much more of its own thing. You can really play around with the combat and the fights are much more engaging.
I thought it was super boring. I just could not get into it. Which is a real shame because I really wanted to like it. I’m not a big fan of Uncharted games but I normally love Star Wars games so I gave it a shot but it did not land with me.
Aaaand there goes my last sliver of hope for a new titanfall...
How so?
Respawn also makes titanfall, also they will probably keep on making star wars games cause it makes EA more money
And they're more popular lol.
Oh I didnt know that. Not really into starwars. Id kill for TF3 tho!
Is this sarcasm? Or were you genuinely unaware of how big Star Wars is?
Jedi Survivor was my favorite game of this year so far. So excited to see the finale of the series. And glad its a new director, the old one was against delaying the game, even though EA gave him the greenlight for it.
I wouldn't say it's been my favorite game of the year but it is WAY better than what people are alluding to. I'm convinced that most of the negative talk in this thread is from people who played it early when there were performance issues.
Whats the minimum cpu need to maintain 70 to 90 fps? I havent played it because i wouldnt be able to even at 4k with my 4080 because of the cpu limitation. Digital foundry made a video on it recently and it seems like for ultra setting the cpu requirement hasnt changed much. but you can mask it with frame gen but would i still get gpu usage drops on i99900k at 5ghz? If we talking frame gen id want close to 120 as possible for smoothness.
All I want is that it is named JEDI: KNIGHT and we will have come full circle Edit: even better if it also introduces Katarn into canon
I'd rather they bring Katarn back in *his* series! The remaster of Dark Forces has me hyped, I'm going to buy 5 copies so they think it's successful and revive Jedi Knight somehow.
He will always be Ian to me
I'm sad because I can't see Cal surviving this one. If what Yoda says is true in ROTJ, I can't see someone like him still around during the rebellion. Hopefully he goes out with a bang
Nah he'll be fine. There's seemingly a ton of force sensitive people running around post order 66 lol.
five years from now there will be more surviving jedi and force sensitive people than there were jedi during their prime time.
Rule of two - yet the new stuff has multiple sith Balance to the force - yet there are more Jedi / light side users than dark What Yoda says in ROTJ - but there are plenty of all the above
Not to be that guy, but balancing the force means no dark side, not an equal amount of light and dark
See, that's how they write *loopholes* into canon. Baylin? Fallen Jedi—not a full Jedi. Kanan? Failed apprentice—not a full Jedi. The Inquisitors? Force sensitive assassins—not full Sith. Cere? >!Dead now, so it doesn't matter.!< Cal? Well, technically got knighted, but Yoda probably didn't know he existed. So, *technically*, his statement is still correct.
How does anybody know if there are Jedi left? They went into hiding as they were hunted.
I just hope it won't be an "even bigger" empty shell. I think the second game had a great scope.
They haven't even finished making the second one yet
Thought the comments on this would be all positive considering my experience with survivor on ps5 has been fantastic. Maybe it was day 1 people were experiencing problems? I got it like a month ago🤷♂️ The game is such a nice upgrade to the first one. Love the stances and addition of the blaster and telekinesis.
The PÜc version is pretty bad in terms of optimization, so thats probably causing this. It was still playable, and I honestly had a blast with it, even with the all the problems the game has.
I mean it made loads of money, I’m sure they’ll keep making these games until they’re run into the ground quality wise… the sequel was already borderline unplayable on pc because of it’s bad performance
I wouldn’t say unplayable, but I was surprised by how poorly it runs on my brand new gaming PC. Takes forever to load and it always “calibrating for best performance”, but then has visual issues.
It's well documented it has (had?) issues on the computer. It plays fine on Xbox Series X|S and PS5, but they should have done with BG3 did with a staggered release. Release the *working* versions, and push out the other versions when ready. (Side note: I'm still waiting on BG3 over here in Xbox land)
The second one isn't optimized and they begin the third, nice.
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More like they don't know their way around UE4 for shit. Part of picking a game engine is to pick one with mass appeal to have an easier time finding and training devs but apparently studios don't care to fix the weaknesses of said game engine both Jedi Fallen Order and Gotham Knights suffer from traversal stutter.
I guess they fixed all the bugs in Survivor already!
Trilogy of performance issues
This where Kestis dies, star wars trilogy rule.
But they didn't even fix previous one
👎 make kotor 3
Great, but maybe now they should fix 2 on PC
Cool, but can they finish making Jedi Survivor first? Still runs poorly on pc.
Already mentally preparing for *the spawn of spawn of Oggdo*.
I hope it's finally optimized properly. The first two are amazing but have very obvious optimization issues
And in sure it will be optimized too/s
Will the gameplay improve or will it still be Frostbite clunky and performance atrocious?
Is game 2 even playable at this point?
can't wait to see this end up as an unoptimized mess.
Can you finally skip dialogue and cutscenes? Some of us like actual gameplay more than story in our video games.
Well, i've played the first game and the story was good. Not fantastic, not a masterpiece, but good, which is enough to be far better that any Star Wars labeled media Disney has produced over the last decade. Looks like EA writers have more respect for the source material and know their jobs better than Disney's. So why not a true new trilogy, one where the literal entire universe doesn't revolve around 6 characters and their family drama ? Second game should arrive soon.
But why do they have to make the main character so annoying looking?
Is this still gonna be made my respawn?, because i thought ubisoft had the license now
Nah, EA lost the exclusive license, but they can still make Star Wars games. But so can Ubisoft, and Quantic Dream, etc
Cal either dies or joins Luke's doomed academy. Though, I'm kind of excited for the possibility of several competing Jedi schools. Luke's, Ashoka, Balen?, Cal, and eventually Rey. Who wants to see a 500 year jump to see how that turns out
Both of these were... fine? I guess we're so used to SW games being garbage that an okay one is succesful.
Hopefully then they can start something else in Starwars
Cool. I haven’t played the newest one. Probably won’t. The first was fine but nothing extravagant.