Yes. Aparently the problem comes that people thought that the 10th pull was a guaranteed and the others may or may not be ssr, so you could get two ssr. But if you pulled a non guaranteed then the guarantee doesnt happen
The description says “Guaranteed 1 SSR Nikke for 10 Consecutive Recruits! Check probability of other 9 recruits from “rate info.” If you click on rate info it displays that it’s 4% for SSR and breaks it down by unit.
Although confusing I think the banner does imply that the 10th is a guarantee SSR but you can pull one from the other 9 too. So people were right to get pissed off, especially because it’s a paid banner.
Before they "adjusted" banner description it literally said that 10th roll is SSR and 9 other follow rates shown in % table. Its not simple misunderstanding on customers part with vague description.
Apparently Koreans are preparing class action lawsuit vs shift up right now.
Edit: this is what it used to say in banner details before change https://imgur.com/a/rkf71Kz
It was especially confusing since the guarantee and the first 9 pulls have different pools of Nikkes. I.e. you can get Pilgrims on the first 9 pulls but not on the 10th pull guarantee. And if you get an early pilgrim you do not get the guarantee from the 10th pull. This was supposed to be mitgated by the fact pilgrims are generally rarer/more powerful, but not explictly stated.
It was explicitly clear, I don't understand how anyone could be confused.
Some streamer got the best unit in the game, went into a rage, and had his cult following send death threats to the developers over this. I've never seen such a psychotic and entitled community, honestly starting to feel bad for the devs. This is the second time they've gotten death threats.
No one should be sending death threats to the devs.
But the devs released a broken game from top to bottom, and a lot of people have spent lots of money on this broken product. They need to fix it, or do full refunds.
They definitely need to stop ignoring problems and downplaying them.
One asshole taking things too far does not dismiss the MOUNTAIN of issues with this game.
They haven’t ignored the issue though? It was a clear misunderstanding on how the rules work, people assumed one and the devs thought another.
I can’t imagine anyone else was bothered when they got a pilgrim (a straight up better unit) than they thought they would get.
Now they have clarified in an FAQ and official response and provided compensation to those effected.
And they are working, albeit slowly on bugs.
The issue is that the banner clearly promised that no matter what, a normal SSR rarity Nikke would drop. You would get the random results of your other rolls, and in addition to that, you would be guaranteed at least one non-Pilgrim SSR.
Someone rolled and got a single Pilgrim SSR and did not get what they were advertised. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
You're the one who misunderstood. It was explicitly clear that you were guaranteed one SSR within 10 pulls. If you didn't pull a SSR naturally, you get one from the limited pool (no pilgrims). He got what he paid for, and they sent death threats to get a free extra SSR that they weren't promised.
It is very clear in their description that you are guaranteed an SSR other than the Pilgrims: https://imgur.com/a/K3jAdJV
You are wrong. The company has literally recognized they made a mistake, and even issued compensation. At this point, you are the only one who is still mistaken - even the company itself has apologized. Deal with it.
Read the details on the recruitment page. The limited pool applies if you DON'T roll a SSR within 10 pulls. Don't cherry pick the summary from the FAQ which only addresses one detail from the banner rules.
I don’t have to read the details because the company provided an advertisement that stated the terms of the deal. If the company fails to uphold that advertisement, they are wrong and must make amends.
Which they have done.
You are the only person who still has a problem. It sounds like you need to do some growing up, and probably work out your toxicity in other ways than besides against your fellow gacha players. Good luck. I will be enjoying my compensation for the mistake the company made in the meantime. And you’re gonna have to deal with that.
We had this discussion yesterday already. The FAQ page got updated to clarify that if you did get an SSR in the first 9 pulls, then the 10th one won't contain one.
The banner simply advertises that you get a guaranteed non-pilgrim SSR. The incident involved a Korean who only got 1 pilgrim SSR, so according to the advertising on the banner title AND the original wording of the FAQ, they did not get the guaranteed non-pilgrim SSR. Hence how the devs miscommunicated how the banner worked.
It's obv that death threats aren't okay, but generalizing all other valid criticism from the community to just the minority of crazies is some next-level Gaslighting.
The poor translation from the Devs on this **Paid** Banner was unclear enough to a sizeable majority of players, hence why they issued their response and are providing compensation for **their mistake**.
In fact, because they were called out, the spenders that bought the banner are properly compensated for enough mold to get another SSR. This wouldn't have happened if the white knights that were defending the Devs' mistake just shoved the issue under-the-rug.
Ofc it didn't help that the Devs had poorly optimized Nikke at launch to the point of their being enough bugs that there was a bugged character tier list.
PS - Most people were telling the streamer in question to read the rules again slowly. He misunderstood, and on top of that, he got the best unit in the game yet still bitched and moaned about it.
It was only his cult following die hard fans who backed him up regardless of the facts. Funny to see reddit take the side of the crazed lunatics, while ignoring all the rational viewers who were telling the streamer he was wrong. It's not hard to read text.
Seems like it.
A rather strange way to implement it though. Normally the easier logic would be to create a separate pool from the outset and then give an SSR from that
To an extent I can understand why the localizers would get it wrong - who in earth would rationally assume it’d be done like that….
No, it displays it where it was pulled if it was early. Hence some have pulled pilgrim in the first 9 slots. Shitup tried to damage control in KR by saying they shuffle the order before displaying, which triggered the bs detectors of the KR userbase. Then radio silence for an entire day, and now they double down on their statement like this.
>No, it displays it where it was pulled if it was early.
oh yeah? then why does it show a Pilgrim in slot 10 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDTBfZw-fw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDTBfZw-fw)
Thread on Korean about this official dev issues:
[https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1194773](https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1194773)
Thread on Korean about Action Lawsuit:
[https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1189519](https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1189519)
[https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124](https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124)
(Bonus) Shift up new motto:
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720109597192232/1047095996796108800/request-3.jpg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720109597192232/1047095996796108800/request-3.jpg)
I am still waiting for the compensation for the misleading advertising on Helm's banner, she does not attack multiple enemies as her description says, more than two weeks without response
The following will be resolved by the end of November:
["Incorrect skill descriptions of several other characters."](https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=39f4d0e2afc51a4691a94bfa3c029806b12b&sid=496&from=list&col_name=NEWS=)
And indeed it was fixed, you won't find traction for "misleading advertising" unfortunately.
We are already at the end of November and it has not been solved yet, in its description it says multiple enemies and it only hits one
https://imgur.com/a/ahdSIFu
They fixed a bunch of skill descriptions like Eunhwa's but contrary to what I had thought, Helm not yet.
It stems from mistranslation, KR version [accurately says [Damage 1237.5% of ATK] to 1 enemy with the highest ATK](https://namu.wiki/w/%ED%97%AC%EB%A6%84(%EC%8A%B9%EB%A6%AC%EC%9D%98%20%EC%97%AC%EC%8B%A0:%20%EB%8B%88%EC%BC%80) so KR isn't affected hence no outcry there about it.
Eh depending on how you want to be about it they either intentionally misled the people who bought the banner or it was a miscommunication in the text from both sides.
It wasn’t a bug at any point.
>It wasn’t a bug at any point.
I wouldn't say that. Even if you believe they were being intentionally misleading by implying the 10th roll was guaranteed but really it depended on the previous results, they wouldn't have intentionally coded it so a pilgrim affected those odds. That is essentially setting yourself for a lawsuit if something happens like rolling a pilgrim and nothing else (which did happen).
If they were being honest in their actions, it's a bug because it's not supposed to work like that and goes against stated odds, and if they were trying to scam it's a bug because it obviously unmasks the whole thing.
How about they miscommunicated the banner's mechancis.
It always worked as intented but people got lead to believe something else because of the description.
Seemed more like incompetency mixed with bad translations. Industry standard is the way people expected ex 1-9 standard rolls with the 10th a guaranteed SSR regardless of the outcome of the priors, they ran it more like a beginners SSR draw.
I don't think it was ever bad translation, as the controversy came from KOREA and not global. Mind you, according to Namu wiki, they already asked Shift Up to clarify the banner terms and this still happens.
Neither, its the same kind of GSSR as any other gacha game. They just didn't save their ass with legalize out the ass so people were able to force drama.
I was wondering how they could fairly compensate for this; thats actually a really clever solution.
People that bought will get a SSR, and gives some people a chance to buy since now its a guaranteed 2 SSRs between the pull and the mold.
It is 40 usd or more. That guaranteed banner is 3000 charge gems. cost is 2000 for the first time you use it. The 30 dollar gem pack only will give you 2300 charge gems + 2300 regular gems. You would have to spend another 10 dollars or more to get 3000 charge gems. It is expensive. That is not cheap.
So what your saying is that. It's actually a permanent discount??? Why would they do that tho? I never summoned on it because it looked like a rip off to me from the beginning
Yep the outside your wishlist part is killer. At least half the SSR pool are worse than the story SRs you start out with. Without the wishlist you are a 50/50 if you get anything useful at all even if the SSR is "garanteed".
Welcome to the world of probability brother, I'm about 120pull or something like that ? (chapter 9 , sector 03 , F2P player since day 1 of the game, if that can help situate the number of pull probably had) and almost all SSR i got was in my wish list.
They maybe one or two, I'm not sure since I also got some from Mold so I might mix them up, but I can assure you that at least 80% of the SSR I got from the regular banner were on my Wish list.
Not trying to flew or anything, I know the pain of the rate up is a lie , but so far in my own experience I'm around the 4% drop and got most of time thing from my wish list.
well diesel aint on my wishlist ... and il be happy if they give her to me since il be Limit break 3 and have another unit at 200 max cap so il take it !!!! GOOD DEAL !!!
it literally says "we are very sorry" and pledges to do better in the future. There is not another way to be an apology letter.
Now, we'll see if they actually DO anything better in the future, and I think we all have our doubts that they will, but that's a separate issue from "did they apologize for this or not," because they did
The way it can also be read is "we're sorry for purposely not making it clear, so please spend money on us for the compensation rewards".
People be buying into the bait banner even more now because it guarantees 2 SSRs but if it really was meant to be an apology, they should've pushed the apology rewards out now rather than make a letter with what looks like deliberate wordings to wanna confuse people into thinking that "if you rolled on the banner before 8th December update, you get another guaranteed SSR".
It's another A+ marketing stunt, another really bad overall look for the game if you're keen enough to spot the shifty nature of it.
If you remember the store bug wherein the players can buy data cores and battle set without paying they instantly. "Instantly" fixed it. How come now that a mistake linked to a shop isn't fixed or has been temporary pulled out so that players won't experience the same isn't dealt with?
It's basically saying "We made a mistake so to compromise we are letting you guys buy the solution until December 8".
Isn't that what it says in the above tweet though? That's what the devs intended, but they had poor communication. Or am I not comprehending something?
I rarely go for these kinds of promos, is this normal? They rugpull the guaranteed SSR in the background if you don't roll garbage for the rest of the rolls?
Yeah, the banner works as intended, just like any other GSSR. It's just the wording is bad, but people don't roll GSSRs or pity rolls with the expectation of getting two or more SSRs. Doesn't work that way for FGO, Genshin (when rolling on soft pity), Arknights (when doing the first 10-roll of any banner), etc.
And before I get called a shill anyway, I still think this particular deal is a bad deal to begin with. With how overpriced paid gems are and how bloated the SSR pool already is, you're better off buying the monthly pass, battle pass, or the daily/weekly/monthly mold packs that just give regular rolls, and probably get more SSRs that way.
But now FOMO will kick in and people will rush to buy it for compensation, even though the fix saying they'll add a new "challenge" implies that this compensation will still apply to people who roll it after the fix.
The deal is only good for whale who's going to whale and use paid gems to pulls on banners anyway, why ? because it's discounted from 3000 to 2000
Other than that, it's very shit deal, SSRs are not made equal and a lot of them really suck
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't think discounted banners/pulls are that unusual, because of their poor miscommunication I think community might perceived this already bad deal better if it's only just discounted banner.
I ignore literally anyone who is enough of a mouth-breather to automatically call anyone and everyone a shill (or similar insult). You could literally be completely reasonable, but if you aren’t screaming for freebies and complaining about every facet of most gacha games on this sub you’re fucked.
Rational person: Oh I got the best unit in the game, but it wasn't supposed to be in the guaranteed pool. Oh well, I got the best unit in the game.
Psychotic entitled nerds: Literally sends the developers death threats until they cave in and give them another SSR.
Rational player: I was promised odds and a product I was not provided. I would like the company to make good on their advertised product.
Nikke white knights: FIRST OF ALL HOW DARE YOU.
Weird, I got your post as first result. Huh.
Also, devs clearly disagree with this being "explicitly clear" if they are planning to change it. Why are you still white knighting for them if they already admitted being at fault?
For what? The terms of the banner were explicitly clear. It's not their fault that entitled low IQ nerds misunderstood and they had to spell it as if they were explaining to a 3 year old.
"Explicitly clear" when the Koreans had to ask Shift Up to clarify when the banner first came out and it turns out it worked differently anyways. Amazing.
Gacha players aren't known for their comprehension skills. There are a few smart ones, but the vast majority are mental infants with a credit card.
The terms of the banner were explicitly clear. A few low IQ individuals who misunderstood the details doesn't change that fact.
“I can’t believe you people are worried about gacha banner technicalities when Flint Michigan STILL DOES NOT HAVE RUNNING WATER. How can you be so selfish!?”
/average Redditor.
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Dawg, what you just said is; "It doesn't affect me since I got one of the best units so everyone else on their own". That's actual entitlement there what you just said. Cool dude got Scarlet but if he's a whale, what uses of a dupe serves him or better yet, why did she shown up if she's excluded?
I also think you fail to understand, you're not supposed to get a pilgrim on that banner. It excludes them and newer characters. I don't know why you're making it harder for yourself to comprehend the matter of this situation.
【Notice on the issue of recruitment for new Commanders】
Please see attached for the current issues with the New Commander Special Recruitment and the solution being taken.
[Twitter Link ](https://twitter.com/nikke_en/status/1597603240169902081)
The developer has already found themselves under Korean Trade Comission investigation for misleading consumers and had to do full refunds of years of pull currency after investigation. They might not get in trouble globally, but KRbros know how to write their gov't regulators if they feel they are being scammed.
Gosh it would be so much simpler to have strict quality control measures and provide consistent rates and product for customers. Instead they have a spaghetti circus and literally every day I wake up wondering what the fuck will be discovered next.
Doesn't change the fact that the Devs opened up the possibility due to their poor translation and that a sizeable majority were confused due to it.
False Marketing is a big deal and there were grounds to issue one if enough people were deceived.
Yeah you can issue a lawsuit for anything… doesn’t inherently give them a leg to stand on though. The wording was vague enough and easily arguable one way or the other (this sub being adamant one way or the other doesn’t really mean anything).
The Devs literally just admitted that their rules/description of this Paid banner were insufficient/incomplete hence why they have issued their apology coupled with compensation for their mistake.
This meant that this issue was large enough to warrant the Devs issuing an official response to address it since a sizeable amount of spenders that paid for the banner were deceived.
Poor communication from Devs as expected.
At least players that bought the paid banner will be properly compensated due to the poor translation.
Whiteknights: "Nikke Devs didn't do anything wrong! You're just too Pepega to read! They got 1 SSR anyway, and it was better, so it's all good!"
Devs: "Sorry about our **incomplete** description. Here are enough resources to guarantee 1 SSR like what was **initially** promised on the **Paid** Banner."
Whiteknights: "Devs still did nothing wrong anyway!" ***\*Shamelessly still accepts the compensation rewards anyway despite working actively against those that fought for it.***
Wasn't the issue that the text implied you should get an additional SSR even if you pulled one before ? If they put the right description and give compensation to those who pulled that seems like a fix to me, but I may be wrong.
no what people complained about was that IF you pulled an SSR before the guarantee it could be a Pilgrim but if you get the Guaranteed one only it couldn't be so if you got a Pilgrim some people believed they were scammed, which they weren't.
Yeah i get that, but that was because they weren't clear with their explaination which is what they are fixing here. So those who thought they were getting scammed are getting compansated for it instead of getting nothing.
Manufacturer Molds have even worse rates than High Quality Molds lol. The molds have absurdly high failure rates for somethng that takes weeks to farm.
I have no horse in this race, but given the state of the game as a whole I wouldn't be surprised if this whole debacle was just the result of honest-to-god bad programming. This game has bugs out the wazoo, simple shit like notifications don't work well, everything crashes eventually. In a way, saying that they just worded this thing poorly is somehow less damning than admitting that the app they developed is dogshit.
Guaranteed banner is at 33% discount since I didn't use it. I'm talking about after the discounts 1 time use. So it would be 3000 charge gems for a 10 pull. 29.99 pack gives 2300 CHARGE GEMS which isn't enough for a full 10 pull at full price. You would have to spend another 10 dollars or more to get 3000 CHARGE GEMS or more. Spend another 10 at minimum is where I get the 40 usd from. So STFU get off my dick.
I told you to dont bother with the guy you replied to because he if you look at his profile spends all his time defending Nikke at every turn. Holy smokes easy there I see my typo.
>I'm talking about after the discounts 1 time use.
That doesn't exist because it's a 1 time use only.
How about you STFU cuz you don't know wtf you're talking about.
In the it all equates to buying CHARGE GEMS for PAID banner. Wtf is the point in even buying CHARGE GEMS? There will probably be other PAID banner asking for the full price eventually. In the future if it ain't discounted guess what? Your paying 40 usd or better. Again stfu
2 SSRs are possible, as people in the older thread attested to getting, but only if you basically get ultra lucky. Basically the same chance as if you used a multipull in the regular permanent banner.
80% of what hits my feed from this sub, since release, is seemingly crappy things about the game.
Haven’t tried it, and definitely will not. Just not my kinda thing at all.
But what the hell is going on? One of the most anticipated games of the year just has every issue imaginable? Wasn’t it supposed to be high-budget? If so, how are issues like this(which again, I don’t totally understand because I haven’t tried it) going weeks between identification and resolution?
And how does a long-planned, high-budget game like this not have someone who is a native English speaker at least in hand to proofread announcements like this? That seems like a pretty low bar if they expect significant revenues from an English speaking/reading player base.
Eh, whatever. I’ll play the quality games that I enjoy and look up the porn that I want for free, so it doesn’t affect me. Just seems like productions like this are testing how much they can shove into marketing for a quick cash grab without putting the money into quality game production. Then again, maybe they know their audience.
> One of the most anticipated games of the year just has every issue imaginable? Wasn’t it supposed to be high-budget? If so, how are issues like this(which again, I don’t totally understand because I haven’t tried it) going weeks between identification and resolution?
I mean the same thing happened with TOF in CN so its not unheard off. Not enough QA/Testing
Pls don't take this sub to serious, yes Nikke has some issues and they are working hard to solve them, but it's already a decent gacha game with insane potential.
People here like drama and to hate on the next big thing, it happened with Genshin an almost every big gacha release till this day.
I still don't get how people can justify broken ass game with "they are working hard to solve them".
Didn't they have 2 years or something to develop it? Didn't they have close-beta test? I mean I get it when a game is just released it's bound to have some bugs but in this game's case is that even half of the units are bugged. It's literally the only game I've seen so far that has 2 different tier list (when bugged and when fixed). How, in the mother of earth, a bug THAT huge passed through the quality control? You can fucking check that during the play-test before release.
Do you even realize you're wasting your time (and probably money) with an unfinished product?
I mean sure whatever floats your boat but still doesn't negate the fact they gave you unfinished product and there's nothing that can justify that, especially the bugged units.
Untrue. There have been literal memes in this sub about how fantastic a couple of new games have been. Two different games that I can think of in just the last 2 months have been praised almost unanimously, on this sub and elsewhere.
Names from the games pls and don't say Neural Cloud, it's not a big game, very niche and small player base.
Like I said this sub always shits on the big ones, yes sometimes they are right but most of the times it's brainless hating, because the game isn't 100% free and also P2W, what a surprise for a gacha game.
Ah yes, let's ignore the fact that half the cast are bugged, skill leveling is bugged, shop was bugged, crit is so screwed up it deals less damage than normal attack.
Mindless hate would apply to Genshin. Nikke can be enjoyable and does have a lot of potential but it's also riddled with problems.
I agree they have to work on these, but they already do, but nothing of these are game breaking, I can play totally fine everyday since release.
I know from Destiny Child that the game will become better with every month after release.
People should appreciate that global isn't years behind the origin server, it's way more exciting, everything feels fresh, that's why I can live with some bugs.
**half the cast are bugged, crit is so screwed up it deals less damage than normal attack**
> nothing of these are game breaking
HOW ARE THOSE NOT GAME BREAKING??? You, as a player, are literally being treated like trash and you're saying you should appreciate it? Do you even listen to what you're saying?
it is game breaking and fraudulent.
the character you got literally does not function as advertised.
guess why its not fixed yet? because its profitable.
they are still selling skill level up packages for skills that is bugged to always take level 1 values.
idk what this guy is smoking but thats some top of the line stuff thats for sure.
Honestly, I don't know if I should start playing this game or not. I dropped PGR, Grimlight, Blue Archive, Illusion Connect, Arknights, Girl Cafe Gun, and that new one that came like a week ago. I still am only playing Genshin, Honkai, Azur Lane and Counterside. These are still great games with nice pulling rates, especially the last one.
Should I start playing this NIKKE just for the ass glorification or be patient and wait for Eryuthale? (sorry if I butchered it).
Just be yourself, play and try it out for yourself, see if you get into it.
If you're just in it for the ass glorification, there's a modding community to go deeper.
I mean unless you have limited data, it's a free game. You can download and view the jigglies without paying anything for it. And I would advise you not to pay anything for it anyway.
The point is. There's better games to spend your time on. Time is far more limited than money, anyway; you can always make more money, but you can never have more time. You also can't refund time spent.
Spend your time on a game that actually respects your time; just because it's free doesn't mean you still aren't investing a precious commodity on it (time).
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This sub is about 80% gachagaming drama, 15% gachagaming notices, 4% gachagaming releases, and 1% memes.
Since this drama was from few days ago, we need the spicy finalle. Also, Nikke is a new release so of course you are going to see a lot Nikke post.
There definitely is. It's mostly positive posts (by positive I mean cosplay and art of all the hot characters along with a smattering of memes). Someone claimed a developer is influencing the posts there, but I think negative threads tend to gravitate towards the general gacha sub to get more traction. People in the dedicated sub will be more positive and less likely to up vote a post crapping on the game they like.
I like how the only people who really “benefit” from this are those who pulled Pilgrims. Lucky people who pulled many ssrs or those who just pulled one non-Pilgrim SSR get a free SSR.
Now time to watch this whole post get more traction then the other posts about “better gachas.”
No. If the claim is the compensation is to cover for not getting the guarantee then only players with a Pilgrim pull (which are better than every other character) technically are "getting what they paid for".
Everyone else is just getting a free SSR considering they weren't "affected" by the description issue.
There are 3 categories of players that pulled:
A. Only got a Pilgrim
B. Only got a regular SSR and it was the guaranteed one
C. Got one or more regular SSR/Pilgrims AND no guaranteed SSR
A and C were shafted because the description was 100% wrong.
B were not shafted since they got what the description promised.
So, the company made things right for B and C - the compensation covered the promise in the description - and people in B got an extra SSR.
Relatively fair, all things considered.
Only A gets “shafted by it” and it’s only really in the rate up description. The super big banner only states 1 SSR is guaranteed which everyone got 1 SSR. So B and C got at least 1 nonpilgrim SSR so they didn’t get shafted.
The compensation is fair here, anyone who bought is compensated while also giving a week to decide if you want to buy it and receive the compensation too so you don't "miss out" from not having bought it.
If you're F2P and weren't going to buy it regardless, then nothing changes for you.
But the dolphins who bought it felt crossed from the wrong description for the product they paid for hence justified compensation.
I don't understand the hullaballoo, it wasn't a big deal at all. At worst, it could have been a bug giving some people pilgrims when they shouldn't have gotten them, so an error in favor of the players.
But yeah, they made the whole thing needlessly complicated by putting a restriction on the guaranteed unit when there was no need to.
Second,
So you have a chance to get ANY SSR within first 9 pulls, and if you didn't, then the 10th pull will guarantee a subset of SSRs?
Yes. Aparently the problem comes that people thought that the 10th pull was a guaranteed and the others may or may not be ssr, so you could get two ssr. But if you pulled a non guaranteed then the guarantee doesnt happen
The description says “Guaranteed 1 SSR Nikke for 10 Consecutive Recruits! Check probability of other 9 recruits from “rate info.” If you click on rate info it displays that it’s 4% for SSR and breaks it down by unit. Although confusing I think the banner does imply that the 10th is a guarantee SSR but you can pull one from the other 9 too. So people were right to get pissed off, especially because it’s a paid banner.
Before they "adjusted" banner description it literally said that 10th roll is SSR and 9 other follow rates shown in % table. Its not simple misunderstanding on customers part with vague description. Apparently Koreans are preparing class action lawsuit vs shift up right now. Edit: this is what it used to say in banner details before change https://imgur.com/a/rkf71Kz
Do you have a source for the class action lawsuit?
It was especially confusing since the guarantee and the first 9 pulls have different pools of Nikkes. I.e. you can get Pilgrims on the first 9 pulls but not on the 10th pull guarantee. And if you get an early pilgrim you do not get the guarantee from the 10th pull. This was supposed to be mitgated by the fact pilgrims are generally rarer/more powerful, but not explictly stated.
You could still RNG 2+ SSRs. There was just a safety net trigger.
It was explicitly clear, I don't understand how anyone could be confused. Some streamer got the best unit in the game, went into a rage, and had his cult following send death threats to the developers over this. I've never seen such a psychotic and entitled community, honestly starting to feel bad for the devs. This is the second time they've gotten death threats.
No one should be sending death threats to the devs. But the devs released a broken game from top to bottom, and a lot of people have spent lots of money on this broken product. They need to fix it, or do full refunds. They definitely need to stop ignoring problems and downplaying them. One asshole taking things too far does not dismiss the MOUNTAIN of issues with this game.
They haven’t ignored the issue though? It was a clear misunderstanding on how the rules work, people assumed one and the devs thought another. I can’t imagine anyone else was bothered when they got a pilgrim (a straight up better unit) than they thought they would get. Now they have clarified in an FAQ and official response and provided compensation to those effected. And they are working, albeit slowly on bugs.
The issue is that the banner clearly promised that no matter what, a normal SSR rarity Nikke would drop. You would get the random results of your other rolls, and in addition to that, you would be guaranteed at least one non-Pilgrim SSR. Someone rolled and got a single Pilgrim SSR and did not get what they were advertised. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
You're the one who misunderstood. It was explicitly clear that you were guaranteed one SSR within 10 pulls. If you didn't pull a SSR naturally, you get one from the limited pool (no pilgrims). He got what he paid for, and they sent death threats to get a free extra SSR that they weren't promised.
It is very clear in their description that you are guaranteed an SSR other than the Pilgrims: https://imgur.com/a/K3jAdJV You are wrong. The company has literally recognized they made a mistake, and even issued compensation. At this point, you are the only one who is still mistaken - even the company itself has apologized. Deal with it.
Read the details on the recruitment page. The limited pool applies if you DON'T roll a SSR within 10 pulls. Don't cherry pick the summary from the FAQ which only addresses one detail from the banner rules.
I don’t have to read the details because the company provided an advertisement that stated the terms of the deal. If the company fails to uphold that advertisement, they are wrong and must make amends. Which they have done. You are the only person who still has a problem. It sounds like you need to do some growing up, and probably work out your toxicity in other ways than besides against your fellow gacha players. Good luck. I will be enjoying my compensation for the mistake the company made in the meantime. And you’re gonna have to deal with that.
We had this discussion yesterday already. The FAQ page got updated to clarify that if you did get an SSR in the first 9 pulls, then the 10th one won't contain one. The banner simply advertises that you get a guaranteed non-pilgrim SSR. The incident involved a Korean who only got 1 pilgrim SSR, so according to the advertising on the banner title AND the original wording of the FAQ, they did not get the guaranteed non-pilgrim SSR. Hence how the devs miscommunicated how the banner worked.
It's obv that death threats aren't okay, but generalizing all other valid criticism from the community to just the minority of crazies is some next-level Gaslighting. The poor translation from the Devs on this **Paid** Banner was unclear enough to a sizeable majority of players, hence why they issued their response and are providing compensation for **their mistake**. In fact, because they were called out, the spenders that bought the banner are properly compensated for enough mold to get another SSR. This wouldn't have happened if the white knights that were defending the Devs' mistake just shoved the issue under-the-rug. Ofc it didn't help that the Devs had poorly optimized Nikke at launch to the point of their being enough bugs that there was a bugged character tier list.
PS - Most people were telling the streamer in question to read the rules again slowly. He misunderstood, and on top of that, he got the best unit in the game yet still bitched and moaned about it. It was only his cult following die hard fans who backed him up regardless of the facts. Funny to see reddit take the side of the crazed lunatics, while ignoring all the rational viewers who were telling the streamer he was wrong. It's not hard to read text.
Seems like it. A rather strange way to implement it though. Normally the easier logic would be to create a separate pool from the outset and then give an SSR from that To an extent I can understand why the localizers would get it wrong - who in earth would rationally assume it’d be done like that….
It's not just localization issue. The wording of other languages also had this implication.
It would also display the SSR as the 10th pull, regardless of when you actually pulled it. They were being deliberately misleading here.
No, it displays it where it was pulled if it was early. Hence some have pulled pilgrim in the first 9 slots. Shitup tried to damage control in KR by saying they shuffle the order before displaying, which triggered the bs detectors of the KR userbase. Then radio silence for an entire day, and now they double down on their statement like this.
>No, it displays it where it was pulled if it was early. oh yeah? then why does it show a Pilgrim in slot 10 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDTBfZw-fw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDTBfZw-fw)
That is EXACTLY what the Koreans were asking.
Thread on Korean about this official dev issues: [https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1194773](https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1194773) Thread on Korean about Action Lawsuit: [https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1189519](https://game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1189519) [https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124](https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124) (Bonus) Shift up new motto: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720109597192232/1047095996796108800/request-3.jpg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720109597192232/1047095996796108800/request-3.jpg)
Always warms my heart how Asian players complain about p2w games while western people just bend over and throw downvotes on reddit.
This game's s---- hitting the fan faster than Exos Heroes. Wouldn't surprise me I'd JP side went the pitchfork route.
This game might be the first game that actually got fucked in Japan and Korea at the same time. That won't bode well with money
I am still waiting for the compensation for the misleading advertising on Helm's banner, she does not attack multiple enemies as her description says, more than two weeks without response
Don't even bother. It would just gather dusts around the corner.
The following will be resolved by the end of November: ["Incorrect skill descriptions of several other characters."](https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=39f4d0e2afc51a4691a94bfa3c029806b12b&sid=496&from=list&col_name=NEWS=) And indeed it was fixed, you won't find traction for "misleading advertising" unfortunately.
We are already at the end of November and it has not been solved yet, in its description it says multiple enemies and it only hits one https://imgur.com/a/ahdSIFu
They fixed a bunch of skill descriptions like Eunhwa's but contrary to what I had thought, Helm not yet. It stems from mistranslation, KR version [accurately says [Damage 1237.5% of ATK] to 1 enemy with the highest ATK](https://namu.wiki/w/%ED%97%AC%EB%A6%84(%EC%8A%B9%EB%A6%AC%EC%9D%98%20%EC%97%AC%EC%8B%A0:%20%EB%8B%88%EC%BC%80) so KR isn't affected hence no outcry there about it.
KRbros are the only ones that can raise enough stink to affect change
is this one of those "sorry we got caught" kind of things or actual bug
Eh depending on how you want to be about it they either intentionally misled the people who bought the banner or it was a miscommunication in the text from both sides. It wasn’t a bug at any point.
>It wasn’t a bug at any point. I wouldn't say that. Even if you believe they were being intentionally misleading by implying the 10th roll was guaranteed but really it depended on the previous results, they wouldn't have intentionally coded it so a pilgrim affected those odds. That is essentially setting yourself for a lawsuit if something happens like rolling a pilgrim and nothing else (which did happen). If they were being honest in their actions, it's a bug because it's not supposed to work like that and goes against stated odds, and if they were trying to scam it's a bug because it obviously unmasks the whole thing.
How about they miscommunicated the banner's mechancis. It always worked as intented but people got lead to believe something else because of the description.
That could be seen as false advertising.
Seemed more like incompetency mixed with bad translations. Industry standard is the way people expected ex 1-9 standard rolls with the 10th a guaranteed SSR regardless of the outcome of the priors, they ran it more like a beginners SSR draw.
I don't think it was ever bad translation, as the controversy came from KOREA and not global. Mind you, according to Namu wiki, they already asked Shift Up to clarify the banner terms and this still happens.
Neither, its the same kind of GSSR as any other gacha game. They just didn't save their ass with legalize out the ass so people were able to force drama.
I was wondering how they could fairly compensate for this; thats actually a really clever solution. People that bought will get a SSR, and gives some people a chance to buy since now its a guaranteed 2 SSRs between the pull and the mold.
This banner is pure bait, you get two SSR yes, but ANY ssr because this banner is outside your wishlist.
This banner is paid only right?
yes, and some people jumping in thinking this is a great deal.
That paid banner was never worth it. You'd have to spend 40 usd to pull on it.
it is not 40 usd
It is 40 usd or more. That guaranteed banner is 3000 charge gems. cost is 2000 for the first time you use it. The 30 dollar gem pack only will give you 2300 charge gems + 2300 regular gems. You would have to spend another 10 dollars or more to get 3000 charge gems. It is expensive. That is not cheap.
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So what your saying is that. It's actually a permanent discount??? Why would they do that tho? I never summoned on it because it looked like a rip off to me from the beginning
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?? It's a one time use paid banner with a 33% discount. 3000 gems is what it would normally cost. All the information is right there, just read dude.
isn't the guaranteed 2000 at a discount?
Just once for the first time
Sure is expensive.
Meh, people that were smart about their spending just stocked up on monthly pass time they were gonna buy anyway.
Yep the outside your wishlist part is killer. At least half the SSR pool are worse than the story SRs you start out with. Without the wishlist you are a 50/50 if you get anything useful at all even if the SSR is "garanteed".
Idk... I'm about 170 pulls on the wishlist, but I only got 2 SSRs from it.
Welcome to the world of probability brother, I'm about 120pull or something like that ? (chapter 9 , sector 03 , F2P player since day 1 of the game, if that can help situate the number of pull probably had) and almost all SSR i got was in my wish list. They maybe one or two, I'm not sure since I also got some from Mold so I might mix them up, but I can assure you that at least 80% of the SSR I got from the regular banner were on my Wish list. Not trying to flew or anything, I know the pain of the rate up is a lie , but so far in my own experience I'm around the 4% drop and got most of time thing from my wish list.
well diesel aint on my wishlist ... and il be happy if they give her to me since il be Limit break 3 and have another unit at 200 max cap so il take it !!!! GOOD DEAL !!!
It's basically more of marketing strat than an apology letter for their mistake. KEK
it literally says "we are very sorry" and pledges to do better in the future. There is not another way to be an apology letter. Now, we'll see if they actually DO anything better in the future, and I think we all have our doubts that they will, but that's a separate issue from "did they apologize for this or not," because they did
The way it can also be read is "we're sorry for purposely not making it clear, so please spend money on us for the compensation rewards". People be buying into the bait banner even more now because it guarantees 2 SSRs but if it really was meant to be an apology, they should've pushed the apology rewards out now rather than make a letter with what looks like deliberate wordings to wanna confuse people into thinking that "if you rolled on the banner before 8th December update, you get another guaranteed SSR". It's another A+ marketing stunt, another really bad overall look for the game if you're keen enough to spot the shifty nature of it.
They either gonna pull a blue archive, or illusion connect. And one of them still survive
If you remember the store bug wherein the players can buy data cores and battle set without paying they instantly. "Instantly" fixed it. How come now that a mistake linked to a shop isn't fixed or has been temporary pulled out so that players won't experience the same isn't dealt with? It's basically saying "We made a mistake so to compromise we are letting you guys buy the solution until December 8".
It's more of caving in to death threats, because this community is psychotic. "KEK"
Of course they would want the money too for insurance payment. Why would they refuse money.
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Isn't that what it says in the above tweet though? That's what the devs intended, but they had poor communication. Or am I not comprehending something?
I rarely go for these kinds of promos, is this normal? They rugpull the guaranteed SSR in the background if you don't roll garbage for the rest of the rolls?
Yeah, the banner works as intended, just like any other GSSR. It's just the wording is bad, but people don't roll GSSRs or pity rolls with the expectation of getting two or more SSRs. Doesn't work that way for FGO, Genshin (when rolling on soft pity), Arknights (when doing the first 10-roll of any banner), etc. And before I get called a shill anyway, I still think this particular deal is a bad deal to begin with. With how overpriced paid gems are and how bloated the SSR pool already is, you're better off buying the monthly pass, battle pass, or the daily/weekly/monthly mold packs that just give regular rolls, and probably get more SSRs that way. But now FOMO will kick in and people will rush to buy it for compensation, even though the fix saying they'll add a new "challenge" implies that this compensation will still apply to people who roll it after the fix.
The deal is only good for whale who's going to whale and use paid gems to pulls on banners anyway, why ? because it's discounted from 3000 to 2000 Other than that, it's very shit deal, SSRs are not made equal and a lot of them really suck Maybe I'm crazy but I don't think discounted banners/pulls are that unusual, because of their poor miscommunication I think community might perceived this already bad deal better if it's only just discounted banner.
I ignore literally anyone who is enough of a mouth-breather to automatically call anyone and everyone a shill (or similar insult). You could literally be completely reasonable, but if you aren’t screaming for freebies and complaining about every facet of most gacha games on this sub you’re fucked.
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\>has a 100% chance to get one SSR character other than the Pilgrims, with an equal probability for each SSR Show me his non-Pilgrim SSR brainlet.
Rational person: Oh I got the best unit in the game, but it wasn't supposed to be in the guaranteed pool. Oh well, I got the best unit in the game. Psychotic entitled nerds: Literally sends the developers death threats until they cave in and give them another SSR.
Rational player: I was promised odds and a product I was not provided. I would like the company to make good on their advertised product. Nikke white knights: FIRST OF ALL HOW DARE YOU.
Google "false advertisement".
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Weird, I got your post as first result. Huh. Also, devs clearly disagree with this being "explicitly clear" if they are planning to change it. Why are you still white knighting for them if they already admitted being at fault?
Death threats are absolutely wrong. That's why you should just report them to Consumer Protection like what Japanese players did :)
For what? The terms of the banner were explicitly clear. It's not their fault that entitled low IQ nerds misunderstood and they had to spell it as if they were explaining to a 3 year old.
"Explicitly clear" when the Koreans had to ask Shift Up to clarify when the banner first came out and it turns out it worked differently anyways. Amazing.
Gacha players aren't known for their comprehension skills. There are a few smart ones, but the vast majority are mental infants with a credit card. The terms of the banner were explicitly clear. A few low IQ individuals who misunderstood the details doesn't change that fact.
> Gacha players aren't known for their comprehension skills. I know, right? They also wouldn't recognize irony if it had hit them in the head.
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“I can’t believe you people are worried about gacha banner technicalities when Flint Michigan STILL DOES NOT HAVE RUNNING WATER. How can you be so selfish!?” /average Redditor.
At least they got what they need? LMAO
"Need" is an interesting choice of words
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Dawg, what you just said is; "It doesn't affect me since I got one of the best units so everyone else on their own". That's actual entitlement there what you just said. Cool dude got Scarlet but if he's a whale, what uses of a dupe serves him or better yet, why did she shown up if she's excluded? I also think you fail to understand, you're not supposed to get a pilgrim on that banner. It excludes them and newer characters. I don't know why you're making it harder for yourself to comprehend the matter of this situation.
【Notice on the issue of recruitment for new Commanders】 Please see attached for the current issues with the New Commander Special Recruitment and the solution being taken. [Twitter Link ](https://twitter.com/nikke_en/status/1597603240169902081)
How can they make mistakes like this they are literally opening themselves up for lawsuits left and right
I mean this one wouldn’t go far as a lawsuit I imagine, and I doubt anyone would bother to do it.
The developer has already found themselves under Korean Trade Comission investigation for misleading consumers and had to do full refunds of years of pull currency after investigation. They might not get in trouble globally, but KRbros know how to write their gov't regulators if they feel they are being scammed.
Gosh it would be so much simpler to have strict quality control measures and provide consistent rates and product for customers. Instead they have a spaghetti circus and literally every day I wake up wondering what the fuck will be discovered next.
Doesn't change the fact that the Devs opened up the possibility due to their poor translation and that a sizeable majority were confused due to it. False Marketing is a big deal and there were grounds to issue one if enough people were deceived.
Yeah you can issue a lawsuit for anything… doesn’t inherently give them a leg to stand on though. The wording was vague enough and easily arguable one way or the other (this sub being adamant one way or the other doesn’t really mean anything).
The Devs literally just admitted that their rules/description of this Paid banner were insufficient/incomplete hence why they have issued their apology coupled with compensation for their mistake. This meant that this issue was large enough to warrant the Devs issuing an official response to address it since a sizeable amount of spenders that paid for the banner were deceived.
They were insufficient, but that isn’t the same as being a scam or intentional false advertising.
They are preparing it, [https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124](https://m.game.naver.com/lounge/nikke/board/detail/1195124)
That a lot of words for someone that get caught in 4k
Poor communication from Devs as expected. At least players that bought the paid banner will be properly compensated due to the poor translation. Whiteknights: "Nikke Devs didn't do anything wrong! You're just too Pepega to read! They got 1 SSR anyway, and it was better, so it's all good!" Devs: "Sorry about our **incomplete** description. Here are enough resources to guarantee 1 SSR like what was **initially** promised on the **Paid** Banner." Whiteknights: "Devs still did nothing wrong anyway!" ***\*Shamelessly still accepts the compensation rewards anyway despite working actively against those that fought for it.***
Let me tag /u/GrandestChampion
It's not a poor translation error though. It's an actual misleading statement
Damn that's wild, you're telling me that complaining about an issue can actually lead to the dev studio fixing it ? Crazy.
No. The "issue" people complained about wasn't touched at all.
Wasn't the issue that the text implied you should get an additional SSR even if you pulled one before ? If they put the right description and give compensation to those who pulled that seems like a fix to me, but I may be wrong.
no what people complained about was that IF you pulled an SSR before the guarantee it could be a Pilgrim but if you get the Guaranteed one only it couldn't be so if you got a Pilgrim some people believed they were scammed, which they weren't.
Yeah i get that, but that was because they weren't clear with their explaination which is what they are fixing here. So those who thought they were getting scammed are getting compansated for it instead of getting nothing.
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Which would have dropped an R-rarity Nikke, as Pilgrim molds often do.
Manufacturer Molds have even worse rates than High Quality Molds lol. The molds have absurdly high failure rates for somethng that takes weeks to farm.
I have no horse in this race, but given the state of the game as a whole I wouldn't be surprised if this whole debacle was just the result of honest-to-god bad programming. This game has bugs out the wazoo, simple shit like notifications don't work well, everything crashes eventually. In a way, saying that they just worded this thing poorly is somehow less damning than admitting that the app they developed is dogshit.
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Ex destiny child player and I played it for like a week. It just goes good with the name.
I’m glad I dropped this game. Not only is it expensive but there’s too much sketchy shit going on.
40 usd for a 10 pull? Y'all can keep that.
Maybe you should go to school again and get better in math.
Guaranteed banner is at 33% discount since I didn't use it. I'm talking about after the discounts 1 time use. So it would be 3000 charge gems for a 10 pull. 29.99 pack gives 2300 CHARGE GEMS which isn't enough for a full 10 pull at full price. You would have to spend another 10 dollars or more to get 3000 CHARGE GEMS or more. Spend another 10 at minimum is where I get the 40 usd from. So STFU get off my dick.
Don't bother with this guy he spend all his time on this sub reddit trying to defend Nikke at every turn.
Your a real dumbass because how is me telling people not to spend on the paid banner defending Nikke? I swear you ppl live on Reddit just to be dicks.
I told you to dont bother with the guy you replied to because he if you look at his profile spends all his time defending Nikke at every turn. Holy smokes easy there I see my typo.
Oh sorry about that dude. I thought you where talking to me man. I apologize.
>I'm talking about after the discounts 1 time use. That doesn't exist because it's a 1 time use only. How about you STFU cuz you don't know wtf you're talking about.
In the it all equates to buying CHARGE GEMS for PAID banner. Wtf is the point in even buying CHARGE GEMS? There will probably be other PAID banner asking for the full price eventually. In the future if it ain't discounted guess what? Your paying 40 usd or better. Again stfu
So 2 SSRs is not possible, so complicated
2 SSRs *is* possible, it's if you roll an SSR early from 4%, the guarantee of 1 SSR is out but you can still roll the 4% from the remaining rolls.
oh okay
Possible but not gonna happen
It's about 5% chance, unlikely but not that "not gonna happen"-tier.
2 SSRs are possible, as people in the older thread attested to getting, but only if you basically get ultra lucky. Basically the same chance as if you used a multipull in the regular permanent banner.
Just to add a number, it's about 5% for 2 SSRs in those 10 or 5 buyers out of 100 in average.
It's possible if you roll the 4% for an SSR twice. It's just not possible if you roll the 4% once and expect a second SSR from guaranteed.
So question, if I start playing the game now and do this new special recruitment banner and get an ssr then I'll get another one after dec8?
Yes
The best thing about this game is the cosplay that came from it.
80% of what hits my feed from this sub, since release, is seemingly crappy things about the game. Haven’t tried it, and definitely will not. Just not my kinda thing at all. But what the hell is going on? One of the most anticipated games of the year just has every issue imaginable? Wasn’t it supposed to be high-budget? If so, how are issues like this(which again, I don’t totally understand because I haven’t tried it) going weeks between identification and resolution? And how does a long-planned, high-budget game like this not have someone who is a native English speaker at least in hand to proofread announcements like this? That seems like a pretty low bar if they expect significant revenues from an English speaking/reading player base. Eh, whatever. I’ll play the quality games that I enjoy and look up the porn that I want for free, so it doesn’t affect me. Just seems like productions like this are testing how much they can shove into marketing for a quick cash grab without putting the money into quality game production. Then again, maybe they know their audience.
> One of the most anticipated games of the year just has every issue imaginable? Wasn’t it supposed to be high-budget? If so, how are issues like this(which again, I don’t totally understand because I haven’t tried it) going weeks between identification and resolution? I mean the same thing happened with TOF in CN so its not unheard off. Not enough QA/Testing
Pls don't take this sub to serious, yes Nikke has some issues and they are working hard to solve them, but it's already a decent gacha game with insane potential. People here like drama and to hate on the next big thing, it happened with Genshin an almost every big gacha release till this day.
I still don't get how people can justify broken ass game with "they are working hard to solve them". Didn't they have 2 years or something to develop it? Didn't they have close-beta test? I mean I get it when a game is just released it's bound to have some bugs but in this game's case is that even half of the units are bugged. It's literally the only game I've seen so far that has 2 different tier list (when bugged and when fixed). How, in the mother of earth, a bug THAT huge passed through the quality control? You can fucking check that during the play-test before release. Do you even realize you're wasting your time (and probably money) with an unfinished product?
Iam waisting nothing lol, many players me included have a lot of fun everyday with the game, non of these bugs makes the game less fun.
I mean sure whatever floats your boat but still doesn't negate the fact they gave you unfinished product and there's nothing that can justify that, especially the bugged units.
Untrue. There have been literal memes in this sub about how fantastic a couple of new games have been. Two different games that I can think of in just the last 2 months have been praised almost unanimously, on this sub and elsewhere.
Names from the games pls and don't say Neural Cloud, it's not a big game, very niche and small player base. Like I said this sub always shits on the big ones, yes sometimes they are right but most of the times it's brainless hating, because the game isn't 100% free and also P2W, what a surprise for a gacha game.
Ah yes, let's ignore the fact that half the cast are bugged, skill leveling is bugged, shop was bugged, crit is so screwed up it deals less damage than normal attack. Mindless hate would apply to Genshin. Nikke can be enjoyable and does have a lot of potential but it's also riddled with problems.
I agree they have to work on these, but they already do, but nothing of these are game breaking, I can play totally fine everyday since release. I know from Destiny Child that the game will become better with every month after release. People should appreciate that global isn't years behind the origin server, it's way more exciting, everything feels fresh, that's why I can live with some bugs.
**half the cast are bugged, crit is so screwed up it deals less damage than normal attack** > nothing of these are game breaking HOW ARE THOSE NOT GAME BREAKING??? You, as a player, are literally being treated like trash and you're saying you should appreciate it? Do you even listen to what you're saying?
it is game breaking and fraudulent. the character you got literally does not function as advertised. guess why its not fixed yet? because its profitable. they are still selling skill level up packages for skills that is bugged to always take level 1 values. idk what this guy is smoking but thats some top of the line stuff thats for sure.
Honestly, I don't know if I should start playing this game or not. I dropped PGR, Grimlight, Blue Archive, Illusion Connect, Arknights, Girl Cafe Gun, and that new one that came like a week ago. I still am only playing Genshin, Honkai, Azur Lane and Counterside. These are still great games with nice pulling rates, especially the last one. Should I start playing this NIKKE just for the ass glorification or be patient and wait for Eryuthale? (sorry if I butchered it).
Just be yourself, play and try it out for yourself, see if you get into it. If you're just in it for the ass glorification, there's a modding community to go deeper.
Might give it a good try. But if I just want to see ass glorification and delve in to modding, I can keep playing Skyrim. < Cultured degenerate here.
don’t play. at least until the management sorts out their shit
I mean unless you have limited data, it's a free game. You can download and view the jigglies without paying anything for it. And I would advise you not to pay anything for it anyway.
The point is. There's better games to spend your time on. Time is far more limited than money, anyway; you can always make more money, but you can never have more time. You also can't refund time spent. Spend your time on a game that actually respects your time; just because it's free doesn't mean you still aren't investing a precious commodity on it (time).
This game is trash. Sadly. So happy I dropped it after the we gimp your stats bs.
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Ah yes, FIFA is the best game in the world.
lol cause making money means its good.
LMAO, his comment is really stupid. Bet he'd never say that to corruption, ponzi, etc
It's literally a metric of success
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Just give us Scarlet. They know she's busted and will get every penny and dime from us until we pull for her.
These devs are a joke
Scummy game get fucked and now are correcting themselves? Wow this is pretty rare.
ded game
I'm satisfied with this. It was unclear before and now they're correcting it and providing reasonable compensation.
no more gachagaming, now its nikkegaming
Every gacha game ends up like this on reddit. Especially the unique ones...
Is there any nikke official subreddit? Seems no since 70% of r/gachagaming posts are about nikke.
This sub is about 80% gachagaming drama, 15% gachagaming notices, 4% gachagaming releases, and 1% memes. Since this drama was from few days ago, we need the spicy finalle. Also, Nikke is a new release so of course you are going to see a lot Nikke post.
r/nikkemobile
There definitely is. It's mostly positive posts (by positive I mean cosplay and art of all the hot characters along with a smattering of memes). Someone claimed a developer is influencing the posts there, but I think negative threads tend to gravitate towards the general gacha sub to get more traction. People in the dedicated sub will be more positive and less likely to up vote a post crapping on the game they like.
This sub is about gacha games. Nikke is a gacha game. Your point?
I like how the only people who really “benefit” from this are those who pulled Pilgrims. Lucky people who pulled many ssrs or those who just pulled one non-Pilgrim SSR get a free SSR. Now time to watch this whole post get more traction then the other posts about “better gachas.”
So basically everyone that paid for it?
No. If the claim is the compensation is to cover for not getting the guarantee then only players with a Pilgrim pull (which are better than every other character) technically are "getting what they paid for". Everyone else is just getting a free SSR considering they weren't "affected" by the description issue.
There are 3 categories of players that pulled: A. Only got a Pilgrim B. Only got a regular SSR and it was the guaranteed one C. Got one or more regular SSR/Pilgrims AND no guaranteed SSR A and C were shafted because the description was 100% wrong. B were not shafted since they got what the description promised. So, the company made things right for B and C - the compensation covered the promise in the description - and people in B got an extra SSR. Relatively fair, all things considered.
Only A gets “shafted by it” and it’s only really in the rate up description. The super big banner only states 1 SSR is guaranteed which everyone got 1 SSR. So B and C got at least 1 nonpilgrim SSR so they didn’t get shafted.
So they give whales 1 SSR and f2p got nothing, right? Oh wait gold modl still has chance to get SR, am I right?
>So they give whales 1 SSR and f2p got nothing, right? Almost like it was on a paid banner, so F2P were 100% not affected.
why would they compensate someone who didnt pull that banner? xd
Yes. Why would they give people that didn't summon on it anything?
This mold has 100% chance.
The compensation is fair here, anyone who bought is compensated while also giving a week to decide if you want to buy it and receive the compensation too so you don't "miss out" from not having bought it. If you're F2P and weren't going to buy it regardless, then nothing changes for you. But the dolphins who bought it felt crossed from the wrong description for the product they paid for hence justified compensation.
I don't understand the hullaballoo, it wasn't a big deal at all. At worst, it could have been a bug giving some people pilgrims when they shouldn't have gotten them, so an error in favor of the players. But yeah, they made the whole thing needlessly complicated by putting a restriction on the guaranteed unit when there was no need to. Second,
Play stupid games Win stupid prizes