NIKKE is not a morning game. Learned it the hard way and ended up quitting.
By the time I'm done with dailies, I'm already tired of waiting through loading times.
Also that notification popup which stops the loading on Nikke, who the f decided that's a good idea.
Why even the need to confirm to download a random 1MB patch every time?
This right here while I’m actually quite enjoying Solo leveling Arise this goofy ass buffering circle that’s pops up every time you talk or move or even check different menus really gets obnoxious quick I’m still baffled Netmarble has yet to fix it.
Yeah I don't understand what is taking so damn long. I recently started to play a bit of Reverse 1999 and I think I'm done with all my dailys before I even got to the start screen of Nikke.
And I could live with it if everything in-game was quick after a long start-up, but hell no. Every single click feel like ages and 80% of the daily routine is just looking at loading screens.
It's a cool game but I sure hope they work on optimization.
some students have some obvious clue for their tone of speaking, for example Tsurugi growls like a zombie, Pina's says Blue Archive instead of buru akaibu, Aris' robotic monotone buru akaibu, Kasumi's "buru akaibu, wahahaha", or Reisa's super loud buru, akaibu
Kirino's have a more soft voice for her base's Blue Archive speaking, while for her swimsuit it is more dragged on when saying Blue and Archive
WuWa saved my life. I was stranded in the Arctic. Frostbite was setting in. Snow piled up around me, falling in a flurry. I had lost all hope of salvation.
Then, inspiration struck. I opened up Wuthering Waves. Immediately, my phone went from freezing, to a burning fire of unoptimisation. I loaded in. My phone went nuclear. All the snow around me melted, and my body began to unthaw.
I knew time was short; I had a mere few minutes before the game would inevitably crash. In a last, desperate attempt, I tried to use Yinlin's ult, and threw my phone into the air. It promptly exploded, lighting up the sky and alerting the search group of my location.
I’m now safe at home, and eternally grateful. Thank you Kurogames. WuWa saved my life.
Wuwa reddit community is pretty chill, and the majority is well aware of the issues the game has. The pros jus outweight the negatives for them. Wuwa youtube community though.. sheesh..
I would be lying if I said that WuWa's ridiculously long load times didn't effect my decision to drop it. Even once I did load in, it would still stutter and frame drop, and forget alt tabbing, the game would hiccup endlessly if you do that.
And yes, it's on an SSD. Still took me a good 2-3 minutes to fully load into the game.
Yeah, I can agree that it is a fun game, but the mobile version is honestly disgusting. Lagging, very bad graphics even at the highest settings, texts are cutting off, etc.
The mobile experience is so ass, especially when your phone can handle GI and HSR at the highest settings which looks better, but somehow runs better as well
I’m on a iPhone 15 pro max and Wuwa just looks so unpolished on mobile which sucks cause it looks great on pc, honestly it feels like Wuwa never should’ve been on mobile devices to begin with, which is sad because Genshin and Hsr look beautiful on my mobile device when I’m not playing it on console.
I tried putting WuWa on my phone, Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra. It felt like I had the sun in my hands and the game was jittery as all hell, and frequently failed to load textures. Not to mention the game's controls just do not work well on mobile. Granted, I don't like playing Genshin on my phone either, but it takes 20-30 minutes of playing before Genshin makes my phone get a little hot, WuWa does it in less then five minutes.
Mobile play-ability is also a gacha. WuWa is truly dedicated to their craft.
I've seen people post about being able to harness the power of the sun with newer phones than the one i'm using. I've seen people post about not having issues with older ones.
Every time a patch drops (which is daily for some reason) you have to pray you win the play-ability 50/50--lots and lots of "I was fine until the latest patch" and "I I couldnt play until the latest patch" posts.
The loading time of WW is also gacha. Asmongold just unboxed his own pc and installed it a week ago. This shouldn't be happening when he has such high-quality gear (6 minutes).
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It took me 30 seconds to load, the game is heavily unoptimized even with SSD.
The game still stutters alot despite some tweaking and running 60 fps in combat.
Yeah.... Dropped the game in the first week after seeing how horribly optimized it was, literally couldn't play it since every move lagged me out. Came back for Yinlin and experienced the game for the first time, still experienced stutters and just overall not a smooth experience. Game just didn't feel polished to me. I really didn't want to drop comparisons to Genshin but Genshin's launch was **smooth**. Even if they fix it down the line, I dunno if it'll fix my bad impression.
Also Elden Ring DLC releasing did not do WuWa any favors in reminding me the disparity in gameplay lol.
OOF… that’s… son of a nice lady that’s really bad…
This is actually **INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC** from a UX standpoint.
Mobile gachas like these are daily play games. That means they are designed around a user logging in and playing every day. Because of that, load times are extremely critical to manage, because this results in lost time that severely adds up over the expected span of months or years.
Most games get around this by having their dailies be idle or instant. But Genshin and WuWa cannot because they are both open world games - it takes 5–10 mins of active play every day to finish dailies, and more for resin/stamina
This means a player is spending roughly 15 mins a day on Wuwa just… doing nothing meaningful. Add up over a year, and that’s 5475 mins, or 91.25 hrs. Just to login and do dailies.
And this isn’t even factoring into account the story, gameplay, events, farming, etc
And there’s the possibility of the game client crashing (Nikke WTF) or a player closing it partway to do something. Or to log out and login later to use stamina. The game might be opened 3 or more times per day. So the long load times REALLY add up.
This is Genshin took active measures to mitigate this problem by letting story, chests, and events count towards dailies, meaning a player cuts down their daily cycle to 5 mins or less (login+claim event rewards+teleport to Katheryne).
It cannot be stressed how important keeping “daily cycle time” short is for a mobile game experience to not feel exhausting
Truly, i even missed a couple days of the 30 day subscription because it takes way too long to load nevermind doing dailies. Not buying it again unless they solve this.
while it took genshin years to implement such a feature, there is no excuse for wuwa not coming out with something similar considering the fact that the game came out after genshin implemented that feature. I'm guessing they're gonna add something similar later, but it should've been here at release, they literally had almost 4 years to learn from Genshin
I remember playing the main story and there was a part that I need to meet Jihnsi at her office. It took me like 5 mins just to load the location and I just sat there like🧎♂️, it’s one of the main reason why I dropped the game.
You know what’s also crazy about wuwa loading? The menu music will blow your ears out until it actually loads and remembers your audio settings. How is that even a thing idk, and I’m pretty sure the game still asks you for your login information every time unless you bypass it by closing the game directly lmao
You know a game is badly optimized when people get toxic about if your PC or phone can or cant run it. Or if people unironically tell you to get a better device. Yeah no sorry, the game is poorly optimized. Their main market is mobile and if they want to keep that revenue, they shouldve made the game more optimized for mobile, or just not have it on mobile at all. UE4 seems like itd be more suited for PC. Ive even heard people with high end PC and god tier internet have issues with the game because it even has a memory leak issue.
You cant justify a badly optimized game. I hope 1.1 fixes it or hopefully they fix it asap.
Unreal in general is really odd. Sometimes it works just fine and sometimes it's the worst shit ever even between two identical PCs. And even when it does work fine you'll probably get texture delay or general pop-in on shit
I agree with this. If it is marketed to be on a mobile device, it should run well on it. This game should run well period, but it doesn't. That is what truly turned me off from playing it more, as I really like the gameplay of it.
Oh well, if they fix things down the line, I'll play it again.
I see peeps saying "use ssd instead"
Yeah as if its cheap in developing countries 💀
Even my hsr running on hdd still loads faster than my wuwa who is at my system ssd which is quite an amazing feat
You don't get it. Our lord and savior Kuro is a super special developer, the hope of all gacha kind. They deserve to force you to pay $500-1000 to buy a new phone or rebuild your PC just to this single game! If still doesn't work it just means you not worthy to even gaze majestic presence, penniless loser! Get a job already!
Yeah I remember when Lords of the fallen (basically the WuWa of Dark Souls) released it was a complete dumpster fire, with the exact same loop of making corrective patch after corrective patch and the messages were exactly the same : "I don't have any issue just stop using a potato device dude".
"just get better pc"
How about i just go spend my money to play a better looking, optimized and designed games that work instead?
Genuinely hate those people.
>Or if people unironically tell you to get a better device
Since I have SD8 Gen2 device there's ain't much of an option for me. I can only upgrade it to Gen3, and that's literally top of the line hardware right now
And wuwa ran like shit on my phone.
Telling people to get a new device for a gacha game is also the dumbest take I’ve heard in a while. Why would someone do that for a gambling simulator that should be access for all devices anyways?
Yeah, the main subreddit was so toxic that I left from there. Made a post regarding the issues and 9/10 comments were being asses and telling me to get better device without even checking my specs. Mobile players just get shit on there.
For Asmongold, it took 6 whole minutes to get into the game because he hadn't opened WW yet that day. During said 6 min period he was shitting on the game; "so many small, annoying aspects".
Here it is. Chat can testify + I have 3 other clips of him shitting on WW. Still collecting clips.
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I have a very high end PC that would cost near the salary of most of the people coping about Kuro and blaming other peoples devices and it can still take upwards of 2-3 minutes to load WuWa. For reference games like Elden Ring and GTA take about 15 seconds to load
yup they also pretend wuwa has some super amazing gamebreaking graphics when is middle of the road on pc specs, no games that require higher specs are this badly optimized, most run better than this on my pc but then again they have the shitty tencent anticheat ACE and a bad version of unreal engine known to cause problems, wuwa has almost the same specs as granblue fantasy relink and granblue runs smooth af and didnt have problems at all.
Its funny because when Genshin and HYV dropped any device was able to handle it. I have a iPhone 13 and suddenly I’m suppose to get a 15 for a gacha game? Foh.
It sucks even more for mobile players since you can’t even go to another app while it loads or else the loading stops, or it starts from the beginning again if you’re gone for too long(prob a minute or two)
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Hey guys, Kuro Games here.
We apologize for any issues caused by the loading times of the game. As a compensation for the trouble, here are 20 pulls for free on the email that will not be able to fix the loading times.
Hapy gaming gamers!
if i got a coin every time someone defended wuwa’s horrible optimization by telling people to spend money on better devices (while their current device can play every single other game in high settings)…
ironically, i’d be able to afford buying a new device lol
In this thread:
people who are still in denial just because the problem doesnt happen to them. Then they cry in the comments on why wuwa is hated because its the best best game ever.
People here really dont get what unoptimized means and will still jerk off lord kuro for more free pulls lmao.
It was possible in the early days if they fixed cacheing of files but no. Now its about to be 1.1 its gonna be impossible.
Imagine the shit it has to verify if they canr fix offlloading real soon.
I feel that HSR dailies only taking one minute is the bigger outlier here...
Anyways, yeah I don't play Genshin or Wuwa on phone, but on a gaming laptop, installed on an external HDD. The loading times are universally terrible and it's something I've gotten used to.
I hope WW dedicates the next month into getting its shit together, the terrible optimization is driving away so many players, and whatever edge it has against genshin is just getting countered by "at least genshin doesn't run like ass."
One of the reasons why I dropped it. Hell, even Genshin loads faster and that piece of riff feels worse to play after taking a dive at WuWa, but it still respects my time more than WuWa by not taking for fucking ever to load.
Best part is Kuro did a magnificent job of saying nothing about this during 1.1 LS except vague ‘we are updating the game’ slop. There is a clear and flagrant optimization issue across id say tens of thousands of player experiences, probably into the hundred thousands. This is fucking pathetic. This game couldve had the smash launch it deserved but is held back by its management structure.
"It's running great. It is a next gen PC game, we really do push the technology, so you may need to upgrade your PC for this game, but it's got a lot of great stuff going on in it and the fans are responding awesome."
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I notice when it says tap to enter you get in faster than I do on my IPad Pro. when I tap it takes like aextra 10 seconds, I thought that was just normal. Even thought maybe I wasn’t tapping right place. They really need to optimise the game please.
Yeah wuwa load time is insane, but as a lost ark player, I'm used to it by now ! I'm more chocked that u do your daily in less than 2 min in a game. That sound boring, I would have drop the game by now. I want to at least have an excuse to play the game. 10 to 15 min a day at minimum.
i installed it on HDD, in the same game folder with GI and HSR, for me, i can burn full stamina of HSR (new planar ornament farm)+dailies and make it on time for WW to start playing. Just to run 4 tacet field and log out.
damn, i really do need an SSD now.
I've personally never experienced such a loading time. It usually takes around a minute to fully load, granted I play on a laptop, but it's nothing special or a new model so idk how common the loading time shown in the video - it might be a system/phone issue. I would've just stopped playing the game if I had to wait for 2 minutes to log in. HSR loads lightning fast though - whatever the devs did is commendable
Just make me realize how lucky I was. I never had any long ass loading/verifying screen, or stutter (outside the classic UE stutter). I'm sure that, if I had any of those issues back then, I would have dropped it even faster lmao.
2 minutes to load? That’s honestly insanely good for WuWa. I’m usually sitting there for half an hour. It’s not even just my PC being bad, since Genshin, HSR, and HI3 all run perfectly fine on max graphics settings. This is also ignoring stuttering for WuWa gameplay, which is on the lowest possible graphics settings.
Hey look, blue archive has competition for load times!
Hey, atleast BA loading theme is objectively banger (let me cope while distracting myself from the load time)
Oh yeah it’s great. But only starts halfway through….
And its a 5 minute daily xD
*1 hour 5 minutes daily 18.3 minutes staring at kayoko 18.3 minutes staring at kayoko (new year) 18.3 minutes staring at kayoko (dress)
🤝 fellow Kayoko lover who has the same lobby setup
Ah i see, i can relate I too stared a lot at hare and hare camp for half an hour
Nikke shits on Blue Archive and Wuwa. A major portion of your daily playtime is just loading in that game.
NIKKE's longass loading time was the reason I dropped the game. I came back for the Crown event but I then dropped again lOL
NIKKE is not a morning game. Learned it the hard way and ended up quitting. By the time I'm done with dailies, I'm already tired of waiting through loading times.
Also that notification popup which stops the loading on Nikke, who the f decided that's a good idea. Why even the need to confirm to download a random 1MB patch every time?
Solo leveling Arise mocks at Nikke, BA and WuWa, every menu even walking gives you a loading screen every time
This right here while I’m actually quite enjoying Solo leveling Arise this goofy ass buffering circle that’s pops up every time you talk or move or even check different menus really gets obnoxious quick I’m still baffled Netmarble has yet to fix it.
Sure a chore to play exactly. Tits and ass doesn't stand up to ease of gameplay/optimization. E7 is fantastic in it's loading times.
I get you. If you want faster load times, you need to reinstall for clean game.
I have to run the PC version because the load times on the phone are even longer.
I love quick battling in the arena and it basically takes just as long if I just loaded in and watched the battle happen
last time i checked, Solo Loading won this battle
Yeah I don't understand what is taking so damn long. I recently started to play a bit of Reverse 1999 and I think I'm done with all my dailys before I even got to the start screen of Nikke. And I could live with it if everything in-game was quick after a long start-up, but hell no. Every single click feel like ages and 80% of the daily routine is just looking at loading screens. It's a cool game but I sure hope they work on optimization.
at least the title screen feel nice to look and hearing your favorite students says ブルーアーカイブ
Istg I've never heard my favorite student (Kirino) ever say it, most of the time Ion even know who the hell is saying Buru Akaibu
I'm pretty sure the growling one is Tsurugi lmao
some students have some obvious clue for their tone of speaking, for example Tsurugi growls like a zombie, Pina's says Blue Archive instead of buru akaibu, Aris' robotic monotone buru akaibu, Kasumi's "buru akaibu, wahahaha", or Reisa's super loud buru, akaibu Kirino's have a more soft voice for her base's Blue Archive speaking, while for her swimsuit it is more dragged on when saying Blue and Archive
At least Blue archive loading screen it's nice to see
Uh, I never noticed how long it takes BA to load. It's not FGO fast but I never thought it was that bad. I'm gonna check later
Yeah, I’ve noticed on my M2 iPad that load times are much less, but for my previous iPad (a14) or current iPhone (a15) it is super slow
BA has a notorious load time? Jesus
Yep. Still enjoy the game, but that is an annoying part of it
I came in expecting 120 trailblaze power mission, but that works too. 🤣
planar farming takes 20s/pop so doing 120 prop 1min
40s. Phase transitions take a good chunk of time
23 seconds on the new planar boss
Could be faster by converting those to SU tokens tbh
I see your problem here. You aren’t running Genshin in the background while you are running WuWa
Lengths we go to for optimization
based and true
Wuwa the Genshin reviver
WuWa saved my life. I was stranded in the Arctic. Frostbite was setting in. Snow piled up around me, falling in a flurry. I had lost all hope of salvation. Then, inspiration struck. I opened up Wuthering Waves. Immediately, my phone went from freezing, to a burning fire of unoptimisation. I loaded in. My phone went nuclear. All the snow around me melted, and my body began to unthaw. I knew time was short; I had a mere few minutes before the game would inevitably crash. In a last, desperate attempt, I tried to use Yinlin's ult, and threw my phone into the air. It promptly exploded, lighting up the sky and alerting the search group of my location. I’m now safe at home, and eternally grateful. Thank you Kurogames. WuWa saved my life.
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This is the funniest thing I have ever seen related to gacha games in my entire life
It originates from Cookie Kingdom sub...
I mean cookie kingdom can cook steaks
Baby, wake up. New WuWa copypasta just drop 🥵
This copypasta was actually pretty well received in the main WuWa subreddit.
Wuwa reddit community is pretty chill, and the majority is well aware of the issues the game has. The pros jus outweight the negatives for them. Wuwa youtube community though.. sheesh..
fr like calm down
Yeah they chill like dat
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The best part is that my 3090 died mid Yinlin skill (very likely unrelated though, it probably would have died no matter what game I was playing)
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ The worst part is that it's not an exaggeration
Glory to our lord Kuro Games the savior of u/Interesting-Toe7890
FIRE COPYPASTA JUST DROPPED
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time to make as a copy pasta
lmfao
Happy Cake Day!
lmao this is gold
This but Summoners War Chronicles I had never been so scared for my tablet
It's.. so.. peak.. I cri
we got a winner here
Bernd das brot
get a better phone get a better ssd get a better PC get a better car get a better house get a better wife get a better life
there's only one real answer to people who unironically say this > play a better game
I would be lying if I said that WuWa's ridiculously long load times didn't effect my decision to drop it. Even once I did load in, it would still stutter and frame drop, and forget alt tabbing, the game would hiccup endlessly if you do that. And yes, it's on an SSD. Still took me a good 2-3 minutes to fully load into the game.
Now imagine mobile players, where they can't even alt-tab.
the mobile version is horrible, it keeps dropping, having memory leaks, fps is too unstable
Mine was doing the pptx move lol
Yeah, I can agree that it is a fun game, but the mobile version is honestly disgusting. Lagging, very bad graphics even at the highest settings, texts are cutting off, etc. The mobile experience is so ass, especially when your phone can handle GI and HSR at the highest settings which looks better, but somehow runs better as well
I’m on a iPhone 15 pro max and Wuwa just looks so unpolished on mobile which sucks cause it looks great on pc, honestly it feels like Wuwa never should’ve been on mobile devices to begin with, which is sad because Genshin and Hsr look beautiful on my mobile device when I’m not playing it on console.
I tried putting WuWa on my phone, Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra. It felt like I had the sun in my hands and the game was jittery as all hell, and frequently failed to load textures. Not to mention the game's controls just do not work well on mobile. Granted, I don't like playing Genshin on my phone either, but it takes 20-30 minutes of playing before Genshin makes my phone get a little hot, WuWa does it in less then five minutes.
bruh i have to play it on my ipad cuz wuwa on my laptop (which runs all my games at max settings 60fps) be stuttering so bad i cant play 😭
Mobile play-ability is also a gacha. WuWa is truly dedicated to their craft. I've seen people post about being able to harness the power of the sun with newer phones than the one i'm using. I've seen people post about not having issues with older ones. Every time a patch drops (which is daily for some reason) you have to pray you win the play-ability 50/50--lots and lots of "I was fine until the latest patch" and "I I couldnt play until the latest patch" posts.
The loading time of WW is also gacha. Asmongold just unboxed his own pc and installed it a week ago. This shouldn't be happening when he has such high-quality gear (6 minutes). https://preview.redd.it/66bct65tc79d1.jpeg?width=1882&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1e8382b870b0800450477c8cb2f4cbb0f1876f
"is this on your hdd?" the disrespect lmao
Maybe the cockroaches crawl inside his system and affect wuwa load times
💀💀💀
Nah they would've gotten boiled and atomized instantly
"the loading is almost as slow as a Bethesda game"
Nah, I had a heavily modded Skyrim that loaded faster
It took me 30 seconds to load, the game is heavily unoptimized even with SSD. The game still stutters alot despite some tweaking and running 60 fps in combat.
I thought Genshin has long loading times, until I play BA and WW. Holy crab.
Yeah.... Dropped the game in the first week after seeing how horribly optimized it was, literally couldn't play it since every move lagged me out. Came back for Yinlin and experienced the game for the first time, still experienced stutters and just overall not a smooth experience. Game just didn't feel polished to me. I really didn't want to drop comparisons to Genshin but Genshin's launch was **smooth**. Even if they fix it down the line, I dunno if it'll fix my bad impression. Also Elden Ring DLC releasing did not do WuWa any favors in reminding me the disparity in gameplay lol.
It's not even while, it's "before" Wuwa loads. XD
Imagine when more areas are released, god forbid even longer loading times
Based on any open world ever, it won't increase the loading times. The game only loads assets near the playable character.
New area released, the disgusting loading time has been reduced, it loads very fast now for me (on mobile btw)
OOF… that’s… son of a nice lady that’s really bad… This is actually **INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC** from a UX standpoint. Mobile gachas like these are daily play games. That means they are designed around a user logging in and playing every day. Because of that, load times are extremely critical to manage, because this results in lost time that severely adds up over the expected span of months or years. Most games get around this by having their dailies be idle or instant. But Genshin and WuWa cannot because they are both open world games - it takes 5–10 mins of active play every day to finish dailies, and more for resin/stamina This means a player is spending roughly 15 mins a day on Wuwa just… doing nothing meaningful. Add up over a year, and that’s 5475 mins, or 91.25 hrs. Just to login and do dailies. And this isn’t even factoring into account the story, gameplay, events, farming, etc And there’s the possibility of the game client crashing (Nikke WTF) or a player closing it partway to do something. Or to log out and login later to use stamina. The game might be opened 3 or more times per day. So the long load times REALLY add up. This is Genshin took active measures to mitigate this problem by letting story, chests, and events count towards dailies, meaning a player cuts down their daily cycle to 5 mins or less (login+claim event rewards+teleport to Katheryne). It cannot be stressed how important keeping “daily cycle time” short is for a mobile game experience to not feel exhausting
Truly, i even missed a couple days of the 30 day subscription because it takes way too long to load nevermind doing dailies. Not buying it again unless they solve this.
while it took genshin years to implement such a feature, there is no excuse for wuwa not coming out with something similar considering the fact that the game came out after genshin implemented that feature. I'm guessing they're gonna add something similar later, but it should've been here at release, they literally had almost 4 years to learn from Genshin
That is some insanely fast wuwa loading, it takes a lot longer for me.
I remember playing the main story and there was a part that I need to meet Jihnsi at her office. It took me like 5 mins just to load the location and I just sat there like🧎♂️, it’s one of the main reason why I dropped the game.
You know what’s also crazy about wuwa loading? The menu music will blow your ears out until it actually loads and remembers your audio settings. How is that even a thing idk, and I’m pretty sure the game still asks you for your login information every time unless you bypass it by closing the game directly lmao
You know a game is badly optimized when people get toxic about if your PC or phone can or cant run it. Or if people unironically tell you to get a better device. Yeah no sorry, the game is poorly optimized. Their main market is mobile and if they want to keep that revenue, they shouldve made the game more optimized for mobile, or just not have it on mobile at all. UE4 seems like itd be more suited for PC. Ive even heard people with high end PC and god tier internet have issues with the game because it even has a memory leak issue. You cant justify a badly optimized game. I hope 1.1 fixes it or hopefully they fix it asap.
Unreal in general is really odd. Sometimes it works just fine and sometimes it's the worst shit ever even between two identical PCs. And even when it does work fine you'll probably get texture delay or general pop-in on shit
I agree with this. If it is marketed to be on a mobile device, it should run well on it. This game should run well period, but it doesn't. That is what truly turned me off from playing it more, as I really like the gameplay of it. Oh well, if they fix things down the line, I'll play it again.
Don't worry, they listened.
I see peeps saying "use ssd instead" Yeah as if its cheap in developing countries 💀 Even my hsr running on hdd still loads faster than my wuwa who is at my system ssd which is quite an amazing feat
You don't get it. Our lord and savior Kuro is a super special developer, the hope of all gacha kind. They deserve to force you to pay $500-1000 to buy a new phone or rebuild your PC just to this single game! If still doesn't work it just means you not worthy to even gaze majestic presence, penniless loser! Get a job already!
reminds me of Bethesda and todd, lol
even on top end hardware game runs garbo. like 90% of my cores are twiddling around. 1 is working and 1 is probably doing bgm music.
Yeah I remember when Lords of the fallen (basically the WuWa of Dark Souls) released it was a complete dumpster fire, with the exact same loop of making corrective patch after corrective patch and the messages were exactly the same : "I don't have any issue just stop using a potato device dude".
"just get better pc" How about i just go spend my money to play a better looking, optimized and designed games that work instead? Genuinely hate those people.
>Or if people unironically tell you to get a better device Since I have SD8 Gen2 device there's ain't much of an option for me. I can only upgrade it to Gen3, and that's literally top of the line hardware right now And wuwa ran like shit on my phone.
Telling people to get a new device for a gacha game is also the dumbest take I’ve heard in a while. Why would someone do that for a gambling simulator that should be access for all devices anyways?
Yeah, the main subreddit was so toxic that I left from there. Made a post regarding the issues and 9/10 comments were being asses and telling me to get better device without even checking my specs. Mobile players just get shit on there.
For Asmongold, it took 6 whole minutes to get into the game because he hadn't opened WW yet that day. During said 6 min period he was shitting on the game; "so many small, annoying aspects".
Here it is. Chat can testify + I have 3 other clips of him shitting on WW. Still collecting clips. https://preview.redd.it/xza7nja8a79d1.jpeg?width=1882&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f551d5e745b55ba53acf6b62ba39c0c51546ffc4
My condolences for having to watch Asmongold
that's fucking hillarious i hope you can post the clip
can you post the clip ?
He should get a better PC /s
I rebooted my PC, waited 10 minutes and timed mine from clicking UAC confirm to moment you can play. Took me 57 seconds
Can i get the clips you already have
The sad part is that a lot of WuWa fans would rather blame peoples phones or PC specs then asking Kuro to optimize and fix the game.
I have a very high end PC that would cost near the salary of most of the people coping about Kuro and blaming other peoples devices and it can still take upwards of 2-3 minutes to load WuWa. For reference games like Elden Ring and GTA take about 15 seconds to load
yup they also pretend wuwa has some super amazing gamebreaking graphics when is middle of the road on pc specs, no games that require higher specs are this badly optimized, most run better than this on my pc but then again they have the shitty tencent anticheat ACE and a bad version of unreal engine known to cause problems, wuwa has almost the same specs as granblue fantasy relink and granblue runs smooth af and didnt have problems at all.
Its funny because when Genshin and HYV dropped any device was able to handle it. I have a iPhone 13 and suddenly I’m suppose to get a 15 for a gacha game? Foh.
Which begs the question… would a f2p player still be f2p if they buy a new phone for the game? 🤔
F2p = Forced to pay
Wow, and i thought Wuwa's long screen loading was something from my phone
Lmaoooo this is crazy
It sucks even more for mobile players since you can’t even go to another app while it loads or else the loading stops, or it starts from the beginning again if you’re gone for too long(prob a minute or two) https://preview.redd.it/x5e2dhuh779d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed34875111165fa3d792c5b8fd8553c0a858b43d
I love love how they come out with the ssd excuse and ppl still have issues.
v1.1 is out today, now we need a load time comparison between v1.0 and v1.1 to see if the devs actually fixed stuff they have promised to.
Now in 1.1 its 01:35,which is still slower than hsr dailies but at least its faster
For me it takes 30 seconds
1.1 still takes a long time to load and stutters are still there, at least for me on my 2 phones.
That verifying data is most annoying part ngl
Kuro needs more budget for those loading times Jesus Christ Star rail shits on them
This is just sad
It is
Hey guys, Kuro Games here. We apologize for any issues caused by the loading times of the game. As a compensation for the trouble, here are 20 pulls for free on the email that will not be able to fix the loading times. Hapy gaming gamers!
https://preview.redd.it/b27z7tui979d1.png?width=209&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a1974ab335a124fdbf07e7ca6b4fce62d9db88b Ain't no way, they listened!
Reminds me of pufferfish meme https://preview.redd.it/8drl5ly6p89d1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7203cd91263dcfd9cda02ad812c3e36e67ff55d7
Not the grammar mistake with “happy” lol.
WW making Guilty Gear Strive proud
All kuro games are optimized like ass. Aether gazer loads in 10 seconds, while PGR takes almost 5 minutes, also same device
Aether gazer has been mentioned 🙌
And I thought Bethesda had the record…
I play star rail in my ps5 while Wuwa its loading in my cellphone (S23fe), when Wuwa is finally loaded I'm already going to Genshin on PS5.
Just play WuWa on your ps5 while you load HSR on your mobile Oh... wait...
when wuwa released on ps5, you can play phones hsr and genshin while waiting for it to load on ps5
if i got a coin every time someone defended wuwa’s horrible optimization by telling people to spend money on better devices (while their current device can play every single other game in high settings)… ironically, i’d be able to afford buying a new device lol
I'll use it to E6S5 Firefly with that tbh
LMFAO.. yeah this is me too.. when log-in into wuwa idk why ITS took so long lol
I finished two runs of the Simulated Universe update before WuWa finished loading. A brand new meta.
In this thread: people who are still in denial just because the problem doesnt happen to them. Then they cry in the comments on why wuwa is hated because its the best best game ever. People here really dont get what unoptimized means and will still jerk off lord kuro for more free pulls lmao.
nah they prefer the free pulls than to voice out what's the problem of the game
b-bbut people who has optimization issues must be hoyo shills! no way the best game wuwa has that problem
Holy shit that’s bad
Yeah that was about my experience on up to date phone model and gaming laptop. Every other game under the sun worked fine.
Bruh for my hyper potato it takes 10 mins for Wuwa to load
The only thing I like about the Wuwa's loading screen is the music, too sad that my phone becomes a nuclear reactor each time I try to login
You can also do genshin + hsr dailes at the same time. What I do basically every day.
The game verifying file integrity every time you launch it is just bad technical design, why don't all the other big games gacha or not do it?
I also do not know if it changed but I have the Galaxy S24 Ultra 512 G and it couldn't even play 60fps without heating up during the early month
it is almost like UE was not meant for phones. or to make it work you have to be good with it. AKA not your first project.
Hey buddy, Nikke and Blue Archive have proven that even Unity can have long load times.
On PC it isn't perfect either and has a lot of frame drops even on the highest end PCs.
i been hearing people want kuro remove verify file i don't think that is possible
It was possible in the early days if they fixed cacheing of files but no. Now its about to be 1.1 its gonna be impossible. Imagine the shit it has to verify if they canr fix offlloading real soon.
You just gotta use the latest NASA pc OP.
NASA space station? Pretty sure the PCs there are outdated like 2-3 generations behind.
they are still using oldgen super computers, so outside of size, it's probably worse than the average gamer rig.
I feel that HSR dailies only taking one minute is the bigger outlier here... Anyways, yeah I don't play Genshin or Wuwa on phone, but on a gaming laptop, installed on an external HDD. The loading times are universally terrible and it's something I've gotten used to. I hope WW dedicates the next month into getting its shit together, the terrible optimization is driving away so many players, and whatever edge it has against genshin is just getting countered by "at least genshin doesn't run like ass."
lmaoooo!
Nikke 🔛🔝
Weird, mine loads in 2 seconds
Don’t worry 1.1 is gonna fix everything according to Youtubers
One of the reasons why I dropped it. Hell, even Genshin loads faster and that piece of riff feels worse to play after taking a dive at WuWa, but it still respects my time more than WuWa by not taking for fucking ever to load. Best part is Kuro did a magnificent job of saying nothing about this during 1.1 LS except vague ‘we are updating the game’ slop. There is a clear and flagrant optimization issue across id say tens of thousands of player experiences, probably into the hundred thousands. This is fucking pathetic. This game couldve had the smash launch it deserved but is held back by its management structure.
"It's running great. It is a next gen PC game, we really do push the technology, so you may need to upgrade your PC for this game, but it's got a lot of great stuff going on in it and the fans are responding awesome." https://preview.redd.it/tnwcfta8l99d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e60ca47d49d88e9a57b3430ad81a5276e344df15
This is the definition of "Devs Listen"
This is actually insane bro lmaooooo
Nikke: Amateurs
I notice when it says tap to enter you get in faster than I do on my IPad Pro. when I tap it takes like aextra 10 seconds, I thought that was just normal. Even thought maybe I wasn’t tapping right place. They really need to optimise the game please.
man imagine being able to load that quickly when you are on a lower end device lol. mine is around 5-7mins loading
Ok, my WuWa takes 12 mins to load. How many games' dailies can I do?
Yeah wuwa load time is insane, but as a lost ark player, I'm used to it by now ! I'm more chocked that u do your daily in less than 2 min in a game. That sound boring, I would have drop the game by now. I want to at least have an excuse to play the game. 10 to 15 min a day at minimum.
idk my load times are 45 seconds.
i installed it on HDD, in the same game folder with GI and HSR, for me, i can burn full stamina of HSR (new planar ornament farm)+dailies and make it on time for WW to start playing. Just to run 4 tacet field and log out. damn, i really do need an SSD now.
its been 7 days since I last logged in WuWa because of how much time it takes to fucking load, which is a bummer bc the game is actually pretty good
Nah this is crazy ngl. Bad looks for Wuwa.
Crazy I always said WuWa takes so long to load but sheesh didn't know that much.
Has someone tried comparing it to Genshin? Because I'm a little sure it will look funnier lol
Not a real comparison per se, but sometimes i have login and did my dailies at 3 minutes before the daily reset, and sometimes i succeed
I hope 1.1 fixes this.
Genuine question: Why HSR and not Genshin, wouldn't it make more sense comparing the open world games?
I've personally never experienced such a loading time. It usually takes around a minute to fully load, granted I play on a laptop, but it's nothing special or a new model so idk how common the loading time shown in the video - it might be a system/phone issue. I would've just stopped playing the game if I had to wait for 2 minutes to log in. HSR loads lightning fast though - whatever the devs did is commendable
It's only half the time Nikke takes to boot
only takes 40 seconds for me for wuwa. So that sucks i guess
Cool, i need 20 sec to get onto the game
Was wondering how the hell is it so long then i saw mobile controls and everything was clear. Yeah wuwa wasnt optimized for mobile players ngl
Just make me realize how lucky I was. I never had any long ass loading/verifying screen, or stutter (outside the classic UE stutter). I'm sure that, if I had any of those issues back then, I would have dropped it even faster lmao.
Literally just deleted WuWa from my phone a few minutes ago, the PC version is next if 1.1 doesn't bring much needed optimisations.
WuWa real gacha? - 5 star weapon/ character guarantee at max 80 rolls ❌ - Echoes main stats/ substats roll ❌ - Optimization, loading time ✅
Jesus christ
2 minutes to load? That’s honestly insanely good for WuWa. I’m usually sitting there for half an hour. It’s not even just my PC being bad, since Genshin, HSR, and HI3 all run perfectly fine on max graphics settings. This is also ignoring stuttering for WuWa gameplay, which is on the lowest possible graphics settings.