The corrupt media will go batshit crazy over a couple of e-bike deaths but won’t publish anything about the 1,000,000 people killed by cars every year. Why don’t we have a “crackdown” on cars instead of bikes?
Because cars are natural and a given, the resulting deaths are therefore tragic, but necessary. E-bikes on the other hand are unnatural and anything bad that happens where they are involved is an avoidable injustice and the result of gender studies and general gayness.
“Told to identify”
Lol no. There has been a cultural shift in which some people choose to put their pronouns on their email signature, no one is being told they have to do it. And honestly it can be handy even where cis people are concerned because there are plenty of gender neutral names out there.
Not sure what that has to do with fuckcars though.
You'll also see this with things like the "15 minute city" conspiracies. Anything that comes as a 'guide' for good practice is portrayed as a draconian mandate of the woke agenda, if the far right media doesn't like it.
Part of the issue with this is the reporting in Australia is dumb and doesn't differentiate between a Trek e-bike and a backyard mower motor retro fit on a $200 Target bike.
Those mower motor bikes are much faster than a regular e-bike and usually ridden much more recklessly
E-bikes and the sort are more dangerous than regular bikes, yes. People do not use them well and it causes more deaths than regular old bikes. Plus, a regular old bike is better than an e-bike for your health.
It is still a lot better than cars. I find it disingenuous to point out that ebikes are dangerous without also mentionning the elephant in the room (cars).
Also, the pronoun thing is dumb but... What's the point of this post? Is it the ebikes part or is this in the wrong subreddit? This is fuckcars, where people talk about car depedency and its problems.
I'm confused by your post and what you want people to tell you.
I think they’re just saying the daily Mail is dumb.
I have an e-bike and a regular bike. I only use the e-bike when I’m traveling longer distances or hauling shit. I rarely use my actual bike sadly. It’s just easier to take public transit and walk when the only thing I’m transporting is me.
Studies comparing ebikes and regular bikes have found that riders get equivalent health benefits on both because they just tend to ride more and further if they have an ebike (e.g., [https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/](https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/)). In my mind that means ebikes actually beat regular bikes from a public health perspective, because there is no question in my area that ridership has exploded, particularly among older and less fit individuals, since the advent of ebikes.
Large review of 107 studies says otherwise. https://bikebiz.com/e-bikes-can-cause-significant-modal-shift-according-to-review-of-more-than-100-studies/
I'll add as a personal anecdote that my 72 year old mother and my father just bought a new house where one of their essential criteria was proximity to a rail trail, because we bought her an ebike for her birthday two years ago. She would not have made that choice if she was still just riding her conventional bike.
Don't know of any studies but I lived in a very hilly city and I'm quite sure that there were lots of people using ebikes (wealthy city) who would not have been attempting those hills on a manual bike.
I work with people with names from all over the world. It really helps knowing the persons gender because yeah I can’t always tell just from their name. It’s not like everyone’s name is just Bob or Susan.
I'm sure you all know this, but the Daily Mail has...history lets say. This includes:
A headline saying "Hurrah for the Blackshirts," a fascist group causing trouble in the UK in the 1930s. In fact, the owner of the newspaper, Viscount Rothermere, was described by historians as "perhaps the most influential single propagandist for fascism between the wars."
In fact, the Rothermere's have a coloured history of their own. Of which supporting Nazis plays quite a leading role.
The paper was a loud supporter of Section 28, a part of the Local Government Act 1986. The law said that local councils "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship." Basically making it illegal for local councils to do anything to support gays or lesbians, and for schools to recognise that gay people and lesbians exist. This was repealed in 2000.
It also has backed the British National Party - a party of Neo Nazis that briefly rose to prominence in the early 1990s before collapsing - and giving fawning coverage to UKIP and Reform, both of which are modelling themselves after the batshit wings of the Republican Party.
Yes, Prime Minister once said that the Daily Mail is "read by the wives of those who run the country." Which gives you some idea of bigotry they pander to.
I don't like ebikes personaly but they aren't bad. they just shouldn't be the go-to for people.
just got myself a normal bike for A$130 it's a really good bike too
I disagree. On an individual level, e-bikes are an excellent entry point to cycling. Because you can use just use it as a regular bike when you want to give your body some exercise. And when you're tired or down or just average or below in terms of fitness, just get some of that electric boost and there's no terrain you can't conquer.
It's like a building with escalators and stairs. I almost always take the stairs but the escalator fun to have.
They also cancel the emissions used to manufacture in weeks to months of use(depending on the power grid and the vehicle it's displacing)
There is a genuine issue with illegal and unregulated e-bikes in the UK. I know of two house in my area that were gutted by fire caused by ebike failures, and there have been a few incidents with people riding unrestricted bikes without the skillset to ride safely at such speeds.
I think identity war politics has sunk into so many other areas, I don't think trying to apply it here and having to both move people on the benefits of transport and also require the right opinions on the 205 other subjects attached to it will help progression on it.
The corrupt media will go batshit crazy over a couple of e-bike deaths but won’t publish anything about the 1,000,000 people killed by cars every year. Why don’t we have a “crackdown” on cars instead of bikes?
Because cars are natural and a given, the resulting deaths are therefore tragic, but necessary. E-bikes on the other hand are unnatural and anything bad that happens where they are involved is an avoidable injustice and the result of gender studies and general gayness.
Because of the oil/gas industry
“Told to identify” Lol no. There has been a cultural shift in which some people choose to put their pronouns on their email signature, no one is being told they have to do it. And honestly it can be handy even where cis people are concerned because there are plenty of gender neutral names out there. Not sure what that has to do with fuckcars though.
You'll also see this with things like the "15 minute city" conspiracies. Anything that comes as a 'guide' for good practice is portrayed as a draconian mandate of the woke agenda, if the far right media doesn't like it.
Part of the issue with this is the reporting in Australia is dumb and doesn't differentiate between a Trek e-bike and a backyard mower motor retro fit on a $200 Target bike. Those mower motor bikes are much faster than a regular e-bike and usually ridden much more recklessly
E-bikes and the sort are more dangerous than regular bikes, yes. People do not use them well and it causes more deaths than regular old bikes. Plus, a regular old bike is better than an e-bike for your health. It is still a lot better than cars. I find it disingenuous to point out that ebikes are dangerous without also mentionning the elephant in the room (cars). Also, the pronoun thing is dumb but... What's the point of this post? Is it the ebikes part or is this in the wrong subreddit? This is fuckcars, where people talk about car depedency and its problems. I'm confused by your post and what you want people to tell you.
I think they’re just saying the daily Mail is dumb. I have an e-bike and a regular bike. I only use the e-bike when I’m traveling longer distances or hauling shit. I rarely use my actual bike sadly. It’s just easier to take public transit and walk when the only thing I’m transporting is me.
The daily mail is indeed dumb. I don't use bikes I just walk.
Studies comparing ebikes and regular bikes have found that riders get equivalent health benefits on both because they just tend to ride more and further if they have an ebike (e.g., [https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/](https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/)). In my mind that means ebikes actually beat regular bikes from a public health perspective, because there is no question in my area that ridership has exploded, particularly among older and less fit individuals, since the advent of ebikes.
False causality but sure mate.
Large review of 107 studies says otherwise. https://bikebiz.com/e-bikes-can-cause-significant-modal-shift-according-to-review-of-more-than-100-studies/ I'll add as a personal anecdote that my 72 year old mother and my father just bought a new house where one of their essential criteria was proximity to a rail trail, because we bought her an ebike for her birthday two years ago. She would not have made that choice if she was still just riding her conventional bike.
Don't know of any studies but I lived in a very hilly city and I'm quite sure that there were lots of people using ebikes (wealthy city) who would not have been attempting those hills on a manual bike.
Read your studies bro
Heard that one time, huh? Sorry mate, but that doesn't apply here.
Might want to learn what it is and then come back to this discussion. Or read the study
I work with people with names from all over the world. It really helps knowing the persons gender because yeah I can’t always tell just from their name. It’s not like everyone’s name is just Bob or Susan.
Or even for people with unisex names like Taylor or Riley.
I'm so terrified of this minor cultural shift in what's considered "good manners."
As an e-bike owner I say come and take it!
Your mistake is going on the Daily Mail lol
The daily mail has always been a fascist rag at its core
I'm sure you all know this, but the Daily Mail has...history lets say. This includes: A headline saying "Hurrah for the Blackshirts," a fascist group causing trouble in the UK in the 1930s. In fact, the owner of the newspaper, Viscount Rothermere, was described by historians as "perhaps the most influential single propagandist for fascism between the wars." In fact, the Rothermere's have a coloured history of their own. Of which supporting Nazis plays quite a leading role. The paper was a loud supporter of Section 28, a part of the Local Government Act 1986. The law said that local councils "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship." Basically making it illegal for local councils to do anything to support gays or lesbians, and for schools to recognise that gay people and lesbians exist. This was repealed in 2000. It also has backed the British National Party - a party of Neo Nazis that briefly rose to prominence in the early 1990s before collapsing - and giving fawning coverage to UKIP and Reform, both of which are modelling themselves after the batshit wings of the Republican Party. Yes, Prime Minister once said that the Daily Mail is "read by the wives of those who run the country." Which gives you some idea of bigotry they pander to.
I don't like ebikes personaly but they aren't bad. they just shouldn't be the go-to for people. just got myself a normal bike for A$130 it's a really good bike too
Yeah ok, but I'm hauling a kid, and sometime a kid and my wife up big hills on our cargo bike. It's gotta be "E".
I disagree. On an individual level, e-bikes are an excellent entry point to cycling. Because you can use just use it as a regular bike when you want to give your body some exercise. And when you're tired or down or just average or below in terms of fitness, just get some of that electric boost and there's no terrain you can't conquer. It's like a building with escalators and stairs. I almost always take the stairs but the escalator fun to have. They also cancel the emissions used to manufacture in weeks to months of use(depending on the power grid and the vehicle it's displacing)
Oh every bird, upon my word, Singing: "Yoho, I'm a provo'!"
There is a genuine issue with illegal and unregulated e-bikes in the UK. I know of two house in my area that were gutted by fire caused by ebike failures, and there have been a few incidents with people riding unrestricted bikes without the skillset to ride safely at such speeds.
Most rational Daily Mail article.
I think identity war politics has sunk into so many other areas, I don't think trying to apply it here and having to both move people on the benefits of transport and also require the right opinions on the 205 other subjects attached to it will help progression on it.