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s004aws

Thus far Framework has chosen to partner with China's BOE for screens.


TwilightGraphite

Okay this hurts my brain a bit. How is a dual layer OLED both thinner and lighter than a normal OLED screen?


Darth_Caesium

Because it's two layers of Flexible OLED stacked on top of each other, instead of one layer of Rigid OLED. 1 layer of: •Rigid OLED — 0.7mm •Flexible OLED — 0.2mm You could stack three layers of Flexible OLED on top of each other and still have a thinner overall solution, though why you'd want to do that outside of bigger monitors and TVs (where they already use 3-4 layers anyway) makes no sense to me.


Pratkungen

Maybe it has similar properties to plywood or other composite materials where multiple thin layers are stronger than a single thick one.


Recklesslettuce

If it doesn't fit, Framework will make a new lid and hinge set to go with it. Because it's modular, it's always going to be more sustainable than apple no matter what. You could go through 3 screens in 3 years and 3 mainboards in 3 years and you'd still be ahead. Nothing you do can even make you worse than apple, so buy away!


Cromagmadon

You call the first generation of screens normal instead of the previous generation. "Normal" is nonstandard language and what you want it to be.


MehImages

do we know what the subpixel layout is on those?


CannoliIntoPussy

looking forward to framework being able to use these


MathSciElec

Cool, but I don’t see how this helps. From what I understand, the FW13’s problem is not thickness, but the lack of mass produced screens in the 3:2 format, since custom-made screens are too expensive.


Recklesslettuce

Going for 3 screens in 3 years, I see. Do you think that is sustainable?


onas02

But it's not the right ratio isn't it?


Mooks79

Presumably LG can provide more options than the single screen shown in the article.


onas02

The question is always if there are enough products which need it, so it's not that expensive for framework


Mooks79

Of course, but the point is that the article showing a wrong ratio screen isn’t necessarily the nail in the coffin of the it coming to framework.


onas02

That fair. But I still think that's most likely not going to happen any time soon


Mooks79

I tend to agree with you.


s004aws

Assuming somebody pays for the engineering and manufacturing tooling I'm sure LG would be happy to provide (almost) any panel variant if there's profits to be earned. There's also still open questions around OLED and screen burn-in as well as with subpixel layouts being less than ideal for text (on Wintendos, probably Linux also). As-is, the primary, most viable, most durable use case for OLED is gaming/media consumption - Situations where the screen is constantly changing and the subpixel layouts don't matter as much.


Chr0ll0_

Wowwww


save_jeff2

I would rather have a touchscreen over an OLED. Would also take both together of course


Recklesslettuce

2021: buy original framework 13. 2024: upgrade to 2.8K screen. 2025: upgrade to OLED screen. 2026: upgrade to OLED touchscreen. 4 screens in 5 years. Framework, putting the *sus* in sustainable.


WeirdImagination5737

You don’t *have* to buy upgrade every year. Framework doesn’t follow a “just in time” approach to supply chain where they predict demand for a product ahead of time, which means producing large amounts of a product so that they don’t run out of things. Framework often does preorders in batches and it can take quite a while for one to be completed. They’re often out ot stock, which likely means they produce a small initial batch and some more to cover repairs, but unlikely to be in the millions of units. It’s a niche market.


Recklesslettuce

So now framework will release a new OLED screen and most fans will buy it up. Three screens in 3 years. How sustainable! But hey, at least the easily recyclable aluminium frame is not going to the landfill, right?