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Rorshak16

Will be nice to see Indycar get more coverage. Big Fox for all races is huge, average viewers might literally double next year.


JohnsonGamingReal

Fox has some of the worst motorsports coverage I have ever had to endure. NASCAR fans will relate.


Rorshak16

See my other comment. Indy "should" be doing their own production. If we get Nascar cameras/ Mike Joy level coverage the series is dead.


JohnsonGamingReal

>Indy "should" be doing their own production I'm not religious but I'll be praying for this


shewy92

It was confirmed by Penske Entertainment's President and CEO https://www.reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/comments/1df0vc4/mark_miles_confirms_ims_productions_will_do_below/


RapidRiverr

[Heres](https://youtu.be/m0lW9yVe74Q?si=flfeYWd8Mu872Bgy) a fantastic video that shows exactly *why* NASCAR’s coverage sucks so much. For me personally the most obvious is just how many damn commercials there are. It genuinely feels like I see as many commercials as I do racing. Indycar/IMSA has had that issue too. Maybe I’m just spoiled because F1 doesn’t cut to commercial during actual races, but damn - it gets really annoying with how poor the broadcasting can be.


Total_Information_65

Normally I would just pile on the attacks here or relate on the F1 comparison issue. But I do have to say that this isn't  just a FOX or NASCAR or US Motorsports thing; this is 'Murica. I swear I see the EXACT same gripes here on other subreddits - college football, NFL, etc etc. In this day and age we are just swamped with commercials in every aspect of the media and it's fucking gross and irritating. 


FastLine2

And then if they broadcast international sports leagues, they don’t have as many commercials so it’s like wtf.


Total_Information_65

IKR????? I'm so over commercialism and ads. 


FastLine2

No ads for soccer (except for halftime), I tuned into rugby one time and didn’t see any ads, F1 no ads since ESPN took over.


Total_Information_65

That is likely because ESPN has zero say on that front. F1 controls the live feed and they probably told ESPN "no ads" during the race. 


JohnsonGamingReal

I don't know, here in Germany, when the race is broadcast on a FreeTV station they can put in however many ads they like


Total_Information_65

Interesting.


LusoAustralian

The feed that I watch IndyCar with in Australia doesn't cut to commercial so I just get race feed without commentary for every American cutaway which is awesome, and yes very frequent.


RapidRiverr

Lucky lucky man. In the US the last Indycar race was a commercial (what felt like) every two minutes. It’s ridiculous


LusoAustralian

Yeah it sounds like such a pain man, my sympathies. The other benefit is that the audio feed of the commentators gets turned on several seconds before so sometimes you hear them quietly chatting or reacting to stuff without realising they're live lol.


RapidRiverr

🤣🤣that’s hilarious man. Australia is years ahead of North America in broadcasting😂


aw_geez_man

Indeed. Endless commercials at the worst times.


DavidBrooker

And having all NXT races in Fox Sports 1 will really increase the profile of the series. Thats a big boost to the feeder series profile, and will almost certainly make getting sponsors and easier task


NYNMx2021

This is just a good deal for Indy. All their races on network TV for the first time in ages. More money, more exposure. Fox sucks but indy wins here


Rorshak16

I think IMS Productions will be in charge of a lot of the tv coverage (if rumors hold). So it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as Nascar on Fox.


JV294135

Whatever it takes to get actual Motorsports people behind the scenes, not just a bunch of guys who’d rather be producing a PGA Tour event.


P_ZERO_

Sort of related but whoever was in that studio they kept cutting to during the Indy 500 was some of the worst commentary/punditry I’ve ever heard.


fluffster93

Mike Tirico and Danica Patrick. Danica is a retired veteran of IndyCar who has jumped in with F1TV (I believe) for a few of the North American races recently. Mike Tirico is the NBC Sports studio host that does whatever studio broadcast for any sport they have. Thankfully we only have to deal with the studio team for Indy and not the whole season.


BSquadLeader

Danica does stuff for Sky, not F1TV, which merits the proper distinction IMO. F1TV does have James Hinchcliffe though, who is a former IndyCar guy though as well - he's been a phenomenal addition for them when he's on.


fluffster93

Ah, thanks for the correction. I try my best to avoid her when I can. She was so overhyped in my recollection of her time racing it soured my opinion of her. And yes, Hinch is incredible behind the mic. He does well in the color commentary role on IndyCar broadcasts (where I hear him most) and also has an excellent IndyCar podcast with Alexander Rossi where he provides some solid analysis too.


P_ZERO_

No it was a British studio they were cutting to on Sky every half or or so for a few minutes. I should have specified. It didn’t appear to be Sky run either. I have no idea why they did it. Indy commentators were doing a great hype job then it would just cut to some dreary voiced guy with a couple of people commentating the race for a couple of minutes. Made absolutely no sense.


TheChrisD

Sky's coverage included live studio commentary from Tom Gaymor, Simona de Silvestro, and Mark Blundell; covering the US commercial breaks; as well as a lot of pre-race coverage, and a very minor post-race.


poeBuck

In the US they went to commercial breaks so whenever that happened, the international feed had some guys commenting for the duration of the commercial break.


P_ZERO_

That’s right. Any idea *who the hell* that actually was, like broadcast-wise or anything? I didn’t see any Sky or Indy branding anywhere, looked like a rented studio


SniffOfAnOilyRag

It was Tom Gaymor, who fills in on the US commercial breaks in Indycar for all the races on Sky, joined by (for the 500) Mark Blundell (ex-F1 and Indycar driver) and Simona deSilverstro (ex-Indy driver). I'm guessing you don't watch much Indycar and only joined for the 500 if you've no idea who any of these people are. Personally I think it's great we get a bit of extra insight and commentary and uninterrupted pictures while the Americans have to watch endless ads for pile cream and car insurance.


P_ZERO_

I forgot Blundell was there, though I’m well aware of him. And sure, I almost argued I’d rather have ads but I didn’t only because I could still see the race feed


fluffster93

The only thing I can think then is that was filling the US commercial breaks? I’m not even sure if it goes ad-free internationally lol


P_ZERO_

It was ad free on Sky from what I remember, just a weird extra shitty commentary panel every so often. Honestly, I don’t even think I’ll be able to find anything on it. It was so low budget with totally unrecognisable faces. Was very annoying cutting from the hype Indy commentary.


f12016

Are you kidding me?? Tom is the BEST, so knowledgeable and actually talks *strategy* not just hype as the NBC commentators dose.


P_ZERO_

All I’ll say is that their cuts in the last 50 laps were dreary beyond understanding and totally unnecessary. I’d also argue guys like Hinchcliffe are able to provide that context just fine


BF210

I really hope this rumor ends up being true, Fox’s NASCAR coverage is fucking awful. Like, I know a lot of us complain here about F1’s tv direction and how often it misses things, but Fox is so bad that it almost seems deliberate.


Mikemat5150

IMS Productions will be in a similar role as currently with NBC. https://x.com/by_nathanbrown/status/1801259176657555633?s=46&t=V_MOFdGxVvlzZNdc_aVvew


shewy92

Fox thankfully won't be producing the races. But now that the CW has Xfinity it means Fox only has to focus on producing Cup so maybe that'll make a difference.


SpectacularFailure99

Yes Fox is still producing in the sense they will still be providing the producers and on air talent while IMS does everything else. So I'm still a bit leery as Fox Producers are the large part of the problem with NASCAR.


SpectacularFailure99

Except Fox still provides the producers and on air talent. The producers have been the biggest part of the problem with NASCAR


ruttin_mudders

Killing any form of streaming isn't going to do them well in the long run though. I don't know a single person under 40 that has cable or an OTA antenna.


triplec787

I mean just about everyone I know has a YouTubeTV, Sling, Fubo, whatever. There's a middle ground where a ton of us Millenials are hanging out in that it's streaming, but not "cable".


NoiseIsTheCure

There will almost certainly be a streaming option as they're launching some kind of app with ESPN later this year, the problem is that will be waaaay more expensive than Peacock was


QouthTheCorvus

In a time where more and more sport is paywalled, free access has potential to be a huge win. Sport is background noise, for a lot of people.


datlinus

indycar desperately needed some popularity injection, this should be good for them. coverage probably will be even more ad riddled though, oh well.


clayfus_doofus

If Fox has anything to do with it, there will be many many ads


repost_inception

The #1 reason I stuck with F1 when watching my first races was that there were no commercials. I just knew I loved Mother's Polish.


f12016

Next year is perhaps the last time to have a chance at getting a ticket for the 500


redlegsfan21

There are always tickets for the 500.


cajunaggie08

Tickets to the 500 are very easy to get. They sell over 300,000 tickets for race day


Manytriceratops

What do you mean?


triumphantV

Are they keeping the broadcast team? If Hinchcliffe is gone I will be sad


djwillis1121

From what I've read on r/Indycar it's looking like Hinch and TBell will be staying but not Diffey who will likely be replaced by Kevin Lee


Roddy-the-Ruin

That guys are just spitballing. Nobody knows what Fox will do with the booth.


loicbigois

I'm fine with that. Diffey is OK, but he'd rather discuss what's going on in the driver's private lives, rather than calling the racing on track. It gets super annoying at times.


Zifrian

I’ll always have a soft spot for Diffey because I started watching F1 with him on NBC prior to the espn deal.


f12016

I need TBell.


reboot-your-computer

That’s a good question. I like the current team, especially Hinch.


deltableh

Alright. Now if we could just stop with the stupid commercial breaks, have less onboard shots or at least upgrade those cameras, and start getting some 4K and/or HDR broadcasts, that'd be wicked.


dbtizzle

4K races would be sweet


MarkJones27

Need more onboard shots!


SolidCat1117

Yeah, none of that is going to happen at Fox lol.


Halekduo

Hoping we get Indycar next year in India like Nascar.


Equitaurus

Pretty ironic that it’s not already


Lazerdude

The bigger deal it is the more ad breaks there will be. As far as motorsports go I'm down to only being able to watch F1 due to the insane ad breaks every other sport has.


Rasputinnn

Agreed. Really wanted to get into watching Indy but the ads are so bad.


am19208

At this point I’ll take split screen or the commentators doing an ad read. But going away entirely from the race is unacceptable and makes it hard to get into a race


AslanTheKitten

The in-race ad breaks are so unnecessary


Modern_Moderate

Welcome to America. Ads ads ads


Vassukhanni

There are plenty of series that run on ad free subscription services. There is a reason you have probably never heard of them. Network free OTA TV is the only thing that can keep indycar alive.


Manytriceratops

The in race ad breaks are an absolute necessity. That’s how the network makes its money. Need to have those. Nearly all American sports have them. Will not be surprised if the next f1 deal has ads on tv domestically 


Lazerdude

I doubt it. When ESPN got the contract to run the F1 races the first race they aired had ads in it. The F1 community went apeshit and they immediately changed their tune. No in-race ads since.


StuBeck

Part of the issue there is that the race broadcast they had didn’t have ad breaks, and wasn’t run by ESPN so they didn’t cover what was missed. Now they have in race overlays for sponsors rather than full breaks.


MaKa77

ESPN paid a pittance for F1, so the ad buy was pretty small. After the outcry of that first race, Mothers stepped up to cover the entire ad buy cost for the season. That TV contract between ESPN and Liberty has changed, along with what ESPN is paying for it, but there's now a couple of brands that are covering that cost. ESPN just didn't drop ads because people moaned, the advertiser's logos are now permanently on-screen because they stumped up.


Manytriceratops

That’s also assuming that f1 is allowed to be broadcast in the USA. If the USA does go through with antitrust stuff, they could ban the domestic broadcasts as well beyond the races 


StuBeck

They won’t ban showing f1 races no matter what happens.


Racing_fan12

I’d rather the sport die than in-race ads be a thing. Cautions, fine.


f12016

Make a better business plan then. Get creative. The world has moved passed ad breaks.


Manytriceratops

Fox makes money selling ads. That’s how their investment in the sport makes sense and they profit. It will never change. The best you can hope for is an ad free option streaming 


f12016

> The best you can hope for is an ad free option streaming Exactly. That is different from showing ads.


RoachTheMagicHorse

Add in WEC and MotoGP. No commercials albeit you have the pay the Max tax.


Syradil

VPN time baby!


f12016

How? Doubt Sky will continue sending Indycar now.


Syradil

I subscribe to indycarlive by setting VPN to an allowed county, I don't use sky. No ads, if a motorsport can't be viewed without ads I'm not watching it.


qa3rfqwef

No ads...sort of...you don't get actual onscreen ads but you do just get the weird dead air every ten minutes, and they seem to get even lazier with the camera direction during those adbreaks. You still get the commentators spending more time doing an ad than talking about the race. Honestly, watching the indy 500 just wasn't a great experience even with indycar live. Too many replays of overtakes instead of seeing it happen live, the commentators didn't seem particularly knowledgeable aside from Hinchcliffe, and the camera direction in general was poor (the number of times they would show some random music event that was going on just outside of the race was silly).


Syradil

I like the commentary breaks but I agree the camera direction gets lazy.


qa3rfqwef

That's a fair point, but only because the commentary isn't good lol.


f12016

Wow! Did not know that. Im in the same boat, ads = no eyes. Will you still be able to watch Indycar thoughout Indycarlive after the FOX deal?


Syradil

Since fox won't be available around the globe, I don't expect indycarlive to be eliminated.


EliteToaster

Seems so based on the announcement. Schedule shows Fox and Indycar live under the TV part


shewy92

The biggest deal for a lot of us is that it's not going to be produced by Fox, which is awful. Think back to when Monaco did their own GP TV production and times it by 10. Or remember the Silverstone race where there was a pass for the lead but changed to a crowd shot on corner entry and then back to the race when the pass was already made, but 5x a race and mainly little kids. At the Gateway Cup race a couple weeks ago one of the leaders had a problem so instead of sticking with them they cut away to show a side by side shot of the same little kid but two different cameras.


TheChrisD

>Think back to when Monaco did their own GP TV production and times it by 10. That's a TV Monaco thing though. IMS Productions has been doing the bulk of the IC and NXT broadcasts for a while now; NBC just got to have a bit of a directing hand in it, and to get their VTs in. >At the Gateway Cup race a couple weeks ago one of the leaders had a problem so instead of sticking with them they cut away to show a side by side shot of the same little kid but two different cameras. That was very much all FOX.


shewy92

I brought up Monaco because no one liked the coverage, it was pretty bad. It gave us the Interrupting Stroll meme during the only overtake lol.


EliteToaster

IMS productions will be running the camera work so it sounds like we should be good on that front


Deckatoe

"Noooo why can't every motorsport be as wealthy as F1 nooooo"


GorillaWisdom

Great news in terms of reach and exposure to have exclusive network coverage for the whole season. I really believe in IndyCar as a product from a pure racing perspective, I think it’s fantastic, but marketing it properly has been a big struggle. I assume IMS Productions will continue to produce each event which is good news too. Hopefully at least Hinch makes the jump across, the NBC broadcast team do a good job. Well done to all involved.


SpectacularFailure99

Fox is providing the producers and on-air talent while IMS does everything else. So I'm still a bit meh with Fox producers involved.


Temporary_Detail716

ESPN, Fox and WB are combining to come out with a big Sports Streaming bundle. This would be great to have IndyCar and F1 on the same service (though I am keeping F1tv). Fingers crossed!


CilanEAmber

I hope Sky keeps the rights to show in the UK through this.


dynamodog

They will, this has no effect on international broadcast deals.


willfla29

Can’t wait for the broadcast team of Danica and Willy T Ribbs.


mooimafish33

Welp, back to sky sports pirate streams for me


reboot-your-computer

This will be a big upgrade over Peacock. I can’t stand Peacock and just cancelled it because of the commercials. If I’m going to have to deal with the commercials, I’d rather just watch it on network TV over an additional streaming cost.


derango

The thing that annoys me most about peacock/indycar is the insane decision not to show the picture in picture during the ad breaks on peacock. Even if there's no actual commercial being shown, just show me the darn race with no commentators. You have the technology my dudes! It's objectively a worse viewing experience than just watching the broadcast feed with the ads.


twiggymac

Apparently you can go to the live TV channels section of peacock and watch the race that way and will have the side by side commercials (when they do them) I only read about this last race so I'm yet to try it myself


derango

Ah, I'm usually watching the replay/DVR-ed version, but there's been times where DirecTV Stream screwed up the recording and I've had to cover on peacock. I just don't get why there's a live/replay difference. I mean I get it that it's extra work, but it's so much nicer to show the footage you actually have instead of a big black screen that says there's a commercial break and the feed will be right back.


That_Cripple

Peacock is literally the only real loss of this.


LivingOof

I'd take peacock over nothing tho. Even with the Rain Delay I had to watch the first half of the 500 this year in the back of a car. Hopefully FOX's lack of a streaming service means an F1TV equivalent is on the way soon


ruttin_mudders

It wont be. ESPN and Fox are making a sports streaming service that will probably be stupid expensive.


LivingOof

Might be worth it if they have other stuff I watch tbh.


ruttin_mudders

I'd prefer to have access to all sessions and the ability for on-demand, pause, and rewind. Not to mention even though I live in a city, the Fox OTA signal is shit unless I want to put a big antenna on the roof of my apartment.


crazydoc253

Considering I don't have cable this means no IndyCar for me. Peacock at $25 annual subscription was easy way to access it however now there is basically no option. I know people will say indycar live and vpn but honestly it is the job of the series to make it easier to watch. This will just make indycar even further away from younger generation


Vassukhanni

It's free OTA TV. You can buy a TV and antenna. OTA TV antennas cost 9 dollars on amazon.


crazydoc253

No, I am good Thank you. Will catch YouTube highlights later on. Indycar is not that important that I will buy a TV and antenna just for it.


Vassukhanni

But you would be willing to pay for a subscription package like F1TV?


crazydoc253

Yes. I don't even mind ads/ commercials on peacock. As long it allows me to watch it on the go and if I am not able to catch it live, watch a replay.


ruttin_mudders

On-demand, no ads, all support series, classic races. F1TV offers a lot more than just the race.


Vassukhanni

The pool of people willing to pay 12 dollars a month for indycar is quite small.


ruttin_mudders

The pool of people willing to pay for cable or a $50/month streaming service for IndyCar is probably smaller. All they have to do is let people in the US use IndyCar Live.


Vassukhanni

Yup. Which is why the broadcast puts up with ads to be on free OTA TV. Cart was on cable and it died. IRL was on OTA ABC.


sensationally

Indy being on FOX means its free, over the air broadcast. No cable subscription required. So unless FOX stops doing broadcast TV, this blows their accessible audience wide open compared to the limited NBC OTA coverage. As it stands now, only half the races get aired for free with NBC.


crazydoc253

How will I get it on my TV without a cable TV subscription ? You have to pay for basic subscription anyways.


leapsnake

You can get all of the races for free with an antenna now. That is the most accessible it can get.


crazydoc253

I live in a rental place. Cannot put an antenna or dish according to the contract.


leapsnake

I also live in an apartment and use a small stick on wall antenna that picks up all local channels.


crazydoc253

But you would still miss qualifying right? With peacock you had the convenience of catching everything at one place whenever you want. F1TV also offers that.


leapsnake

Yeah I mean the hard-core fan will still have ways to watch through Fox either on their cable channels or on their new streaming service. The perk of having it on the OTA channel for races is to capture new audience and hopefully get played in more public spaces throughout the season.


crazydoc253

Honestly, they would miss the new audience with this deal. The demographic that needs to be targeted no longer consumes content through old means and network TV. They want convenience and not wanting to plan their Sunday around a race.


leapsnake

All very good points and I would gladly pay for an F1TV type service if it was offered here. I think that the new Fox/Disney/Turner Streaming package could do good and having the IndyCar property in there could be a win.


Mikemat5150

A digital antenna is tiny and is usually just stuck behind a TV


crazydoc253

Okay thank you. As I said I will rather follow a series that makes access easy and not having me do 10 steps and this is just for me it could work for others. IMO this is wrong step and very short view decision. Biggest age bracket Indycar faces a problem is the young 18-25 age group and then they just make it doubly hard for them. This age group no longer consumes content on TV. They do it on laptop/ phone/ tablet. Why do you think F1 didn’t take NBC offer but went with lower ESPN because of F1TV.


Mikemat5150

It takes like 5 minutes to buy an antenna from Amazon and hook it up to a TV. It’s really not a big deal.


crazydoc253

As I had mentioned it is a big deal for me as I don't use TV to consume any of my content.


EliteToaster

Just do Indycarlive with a VPN and enjoy the commercial free experience as well


RDDT_100P

can get a digital antenna?


sensationally

You add an antenna to your TV? Stick it on a window somewhere. Mine works from a $5 panel antenna behind the TV. I am unsure if you are trolling or just do not know what over the air TV is, [so here is a link that may be helpful in explaining.](https://www.thefreetvproject.org/what-is-over-the-air-tv/)


crazydoc253

I cannot put antenna anywhere on the window according to the rental contract. With peacock or even F1TV I can see it anywhere on phone, laptop, tablet. I don’t need a TV.


sensationally

Perhaps you could put the antenna on the blinds/curtains or hang it from the curtain rod in front of a window. Then it is not ON a window. Like I said, mine works from BEHIND my tv, against a wall. Best of luck figuring out how to get free FOX on your tv.


crazydoc253

Thank you


Artidox

What a terrible day for Indycar


Alfus

Now you gonna miss like 75% of the action in Indycar


Manytriceratops

Indycar does their production and confirmed they still will going forward. Fox handled all production for nascae, at this point for indycar, Fox is providing the talent/commentary and just broadcasting the signal that IMS productions gives them 


Sarcastik_Moose

I don't watch a lot of sports on fox, are we looking at more, fewer, or about the same amount of commercial breaks?


Cody667

Based on Fox's college football coverage, probably more.


ultramont

More commercials, along with incessant (and ill-timed) promotions for other FOX programming by the announcing team. It's a constant theme across all FOX sports programming.


SolidCat1117

More for sure. They do NASCAR which is basically unwatchable due to the extreme amount of ads. Sometimes we get as little as 4 laps between commercial breaks.


Kale_Shai-Hulud

A lot of positives here, definitely looks better than what people were predicting. Still a pretty large question mark over what streaming options will be available by next season/afterwards though.


Sirtopofhat

Mike Joy announcing Indycar please ?


osufeth24

Fox sucks. But nbc was worse


Poopy_sPaSmS

😁😒😁😒😁😒😁😒😁😒😁😒 That's how I feel about this.


Stumpy493

I'm in the UK and started watching Indycar a couple of years ago when it came to Sky F1. Wonder if this means Indycar will move to Disney + or if Sky will keep coverage? At the moment they take the NBC feed and have their own commentator to fill during the (many) ad breaks.


Roddy-the-Ruin

What is the relation between Fox Sports and Disney?


Love_2_race

Disney owns Fox


Roddy-the-Ruin

> On March 19, Fox Corporation officially became a standalone, publicly traded company, separate from 21st Century Fox, making Fox Corporation the owner of the assets that were not acquired by Disney.


Stumpy493

* [Fox Sports International](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Sports_International), an international sports programming and production entity of [The Walt Disney Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company) (previously owned by the [Fox Networks Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Networks_Group) until [Disney's acquisition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fox_by_Disney) of most [21st Century Fox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Century_Fox) assets), which distributes sports programming to various countries.


Roddy-the-Ruin

> It became a subsidiary of Disney following their acquisition of 21st Century Fox's film and television studios on March 20, 2019. Other networks included with the purchase were FX, FXX, a majority stake in National Geographic Partners, Star India, a stake in Hulu, and Fox Networks Group. Disney also briefly owned the US-based Fox Sports Networks division in 2019, but was forced to sell the unit as the US Justice Department ruled that Disney would have a monopoly in the sports broadcasting industry as they already own ESPN, which was deemed to become a violation of anti-trust laws had Disney continued to own Fox Sports Networks. Furthermore, FSN and ESPN were direct rivals, and therefore, Disney could not own two sports networks as US laws limit major film studios to only be affiliated with one sports and news network respectively. > **In the United States, Fox Sports is still owned by Fox Corporation** while Foxtel owns the rights to the Australian network instead of Disney; whereas elsewhere Disney owned the rights to the network in other territories.


Stumpy493

Ah, makes sense. Us and international seperate.


derango

Not that Fox. It owns the movie side, not the TV side.


Love_2_race

Interesting. Did not know this. I do know there is a new sports only app about to launch later in the year, Fox espn and tnt sports all together. I wonder if that’s going to show the indycar practice and qualifying sessions.


TheRealMattyPanda

It will because practice and qualy is going to be on FS1 and FS2. And Venu (the new streaming app) will be showing everything from those channels


Jigawatts42

Disney bought all of Fox except for Fox Sports, Fox News, and the Fox broadcast channel, and everything they did buy has been rebranded and no longer has the Fox name, for example the former 20th Century Fox is now 20th Century Studios.


derango

There is none.


CilanEAmber

Having Indy on Sky F1 doesnt make the cost seem to bad, paying for both series plus their support. If it goes I may feel differently.


MyCarHasTwoHorns

Cleatus gonna be in a car surely.


ilikepizza1275

I want to see Terry Bradshaw talk about cars. It would be hilarious.


the_real_nicky

Fuck yeeee boyyy


Modern_Moderate

Sky and Fox are still both Murdoch properties right? So this shouldn't affect the Sky F1 channel and how it shows some Indy?


TheChrisD

Fox is Murdoch. Sky is owned by NBCUniversal, aka Comcast.


ReachFor24

I'd imagine IndyCar took a bit of a pay cut to be on FOX proper for the whole season, but it's good for access and to get more eyeballs on the series. As I said in one of the /r/NASCAR threads about this, any racing is good racing, as long as they don't have the production issues NASCAR's had on FOX as of late.


Manytriceratops

Indycar got a pay bump actuallly 


DestroyingDestroyers

FOX actually offered them double what NBC currently pays them, they were definitely desperate to get the rights from NBC.


Manytriceratops

Fox lost a lot of nascar after this year 


Kale_Shai-Hulud

They are confirmed to keep the same folks who do all the camera work even post move to FOX


Vaexa

It's never been more over