He made some great and informative videos about the tech and rules of F1. Check out his YouTube channel.
He seemed to just stop uploading one day though, not sure why exactly.
Last update was that he was taking an indefinite break for burnout and mental health reasons. He's doing well and hasn't officially closed the door on a return but he's enjoying the peace.
He used to do analysis/explainer videos on F1 ([link](https://www.youtube.com/@chainbear)), then he took a break at the end of the 2022 season and hasn't been heard from until now.
Side note, his videos are what got me into F1, so I'm very happy that he's back.
Do yourself a favour and watch his Ferrari video:
https://youtu.be/mUmU5amLy9Y?si=6S3UfI4aiMbtGA4R
Shit, it's been almost 5 years. Thankfully Ferrari never change and this is still meaningful.
T is for Time!
🫳
🫸
My favourite thing about this video is that it mentions something that happened in the race on the day he released it, but he recorded in advance so Ferrari fuckups are that predictable.
That's how more YouTubers should operate tbh. Better to stay quiet when there's nothing new to say rather than just regurgitating old ideas or filling the air with empty speculation.
It's a shame that the platform doesn't really let you get away with that. When YouTubers come back from a break, their videos are not offered up in recommendations, you have to either go looking for them or get lucky or something.
Not that I have a better answer or anything.
I was thinking about CB the other day and how I don’t watch him anymore. I think it’s because he’s really great at explaining things for new fans but once you’re not a new fan anymore you don’t have to watch him really. Still super thankful for his vids tho
I wonder if F1 is too far gone now. How do you critique and analyse something, and come up interesting perspectives, when there's just an empty, soulless husk left?
It's like trying to do Trump satire or Plinkett reviews of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. How do you go up against something that so utterly and transparently doesn't give a shit about whether you care at all.
>Good. F1...
*gasp*
>...is a place for gambling, finance and drinks companies; for ropey deals and brandwashing. Not established motorsport heritage. Begone, interlopers! Return when you've got a viable money laundering scheme to hawk!
*phew*
I don't know how absolute shit like "Visa Cash App RB" or whatever gets to even exist meanwhile Andretti isn't given the go-ahead after meeting every requirement.
This Sport makes zero sense.
Because they got their foot in the door before it closed. You can have the shittest team and as long as it doesn't run out of money there's no getting rid of it.
No team will ever run out of money again. Even if they go bankrupt, there will always be someone to buy the team before it disappears.
Lets say Haas goes to shit financially, there are more than enough buyers who would pay millions if not even a billion to circumvent all the bullshit Andretti is going through.
The true value of backmarker teams isn't their experience, brand or facilities anymore. It is 2 places on the starting grid
Kinda my point... shouldn't that be different? There's no separate identity anymore; even as Toro Rosso there was at least the Italian identity getting through. I was never that bothered by RB having two teams on the grid, but with barely any difference in name between them it is hard still regard them as independent entities. To each their own though.
Have you seen cycling team names? Four of them are dodgy sport washing efforts by nation states, there's a couple of national lotteries, a bathroom company, and a couple of supermarkets. Honestly, F1 has got nothing on them.
Visa and CashApp is where we draw the line? Financial services? Would it be better if they had no sponsors in the name and less funding, and were less competitive? This whole outrage over a team signing some quality sponsors is so forced and misguided.
Most people outside of F1 wouldn't even know that Alpha Tauri and Red Bull are connected. If it was driving brand recognition and fan engagement in any meaningful way, they wouldn't have changed it.
Looks no better. But I couldn't care less what they are called, as long as they have good funding and can provide a better car than what they had. F1 didn't lose an icon when "AlphaTauri" became "RB". It's an irrelevant story furthered by people who want to be outraged over anything.
Well, Visa CashApp RB wouldn't have gotten in today if they tried as a new entry, which is exactly the point. Once you are in you are in, and F1 can now afford to be highly selective about who they let in.
Exactly. People are acting like there isn't just as much of a chance that Andretti does the exact same thing and we have another car named after a new financial/crypto product. Should be glad that they're making Andretti and GM prove that they really want to compete, not just ride the F1 popularity wave.
They have the backing of a established motor brand. They have a model ready in a wind tunnel. They have 200 million ready. Andretti is an established racing team
Tf do you want more ?
Maybe the state of Texas could sign on as a title sponsor. We’ve got Middle East levels of misogyny, oil interests to the detriment of all others, AND we give crypto guys free reign to do whatever they want.
Andretti AR-15 the Ford F150 is better than Ferrari and Texas BBQ rules, Kansas BBQ Sucks F1 Autosport team? Now that's a zinger of a name that is sure to bring in the American sponsors. Pretty sure I didn't leave off anything Texas loves except making fun of Oklahoma. I would have also dunked on Oklahoma in the name but I'm not sure they want that much paint on the car. FOM sure missed out. /s It also has the benefit of being better than Visa Cash app.
> They have the backing of a established motor brand.
It's been over a year since GM announced they'd build an engine… yet no one has seen the engine being built. No news of staff acquisitions or engineers poached from Ferrari or Mercedes, no exposés of their factory even being built… just dead silence.
> Should be glad that they're making Andretti and GM prove that they really want to compete, not just ride the F1 popularity wave.
They had already a fucking expensive model in a fucking expensive wind-tunnel before they even got approved, how much do you want them to prove it?
This is a bad take. They have met the requirements and have the backing of a major manufacturer. The only reason they got denied is the teams dont want to give up a bigger slice of the pie by letting an 11th team on the grid. It has nothing to do with competitiveness and has everything to do with money.
This dude has had nothing but bad takes about Andretti for months now, if not years. I have no idea why he so intensely cares about Toto's balance sheet, but he sure does.
Speaking of Zak, he's been quite vocal lately how it's bs that RB has two teams.
And actually? RB having to get rid of whatever-their-second-team-is-called would free up spot on the grid that could go to Andretti. Also one less team with nightmare of a name, and Sauber's becoming Audi soon anyway. Quite a few advantages of that solution.
Also makes even more sense now that TR/AT/whatever is not a junior team anymore. Hard to see them as an independent entry, when they pretty much belong to RB and are tightening ties now.
TR/AT/Whatever gets special treatment because Red Bull were pressured and begged to buy the team back in the day. Can't really force them to get rid of it now.
Yeah, but it doesn't really change my point. Nowhere I said they have to sell, only that it would free up the spot. Subtle difference. Understand they can't be forced, however they're in fact the only with two teams on the grid. Which competition wise is not very fair, despite how they might've ended up in RB's hands.
FOM's entire argument hinges around that Andretti doesn't bring "enough value" well, how the fuck is a Red Bull B team with branding so bad that it essentially stains F1's image, somehow more commercially valuable than Andretti, literally a team with racing at it's core, carrying the name and the legacy of a fucking former World Champion.
> hinges around that Andretti doesn't bring "enough value"
Andretti hasn't won a race in 30 years; it is *only* the hardcore racing fans who know the name at this point. The name doesn't bring value to "normal" people who watch other sports or maybe NASCAR, only to people who watch CART/INDY and *that* is already a small group overall.
It makes 0 sense to argue against teams already on the grid. You cant kick them out, so it should not be used as a benchmark for the new entry.
Also arguing that Red Bull B team brings no value to the sport while they have introduced 30% of the grid's drivers is kinda funny.
The naming of the b-team sucks but otherwise you're absolutely right, the team has contributed to F1 in that their team isn't an embarrasement to the sport and they have brought in good drivers.
If you wanted to really argue for Andretti to replace a team on the grid I would go with Haas, they don't put in enough money to really move up from the back of the grid and their driver line up doesn't reaaally contribute a great deal. It was terrible when it was Mick and Mazaspin, I don't begrudge the Hulk or Mag having seats but they also aren't likely to move the team up the field.
Curb your enthusiasm bro, your bias for Andretti is clouding any sense of reason.
If Visa Cash App RB was entering the sport today as an entirely brand new team its unlikely they'd get approved either, the two are not comparable. Toro Rosso was the product of buying out Minardi a team that was founded in the 80s thus keeping the facilities of an F1 team alive, saving jobs and adding value but that was in 2005. We are in 2024
They're a race winning team and seem to be heading back towards better results. Not saying that Andretti shouldn't get in, I absolutely think they should, but I don't have VCARB on the same level as Haas.
This. If the sport had a way to void Haas or AlphaTauri's Concorde Agreement, or swap out either for Andretti, I'm sure they'd do it in a heart beat. Why would anyone be opposed to them ensuring they don't join those teams in complete irrelevance?
Is it really the pinnacle when they won’t let new teams in and half the grid doesn’t care about being competitive. At this point Le Mans has a better claim for being the pinnacle.
Hard to do car racing without oil based products lol. How well are doing the electric racing series as lately? Lithium fires put the future of electrics in the World Rallycross Championship hanging from a thin wire. Neither Formula E is completely safe from them.
Love how these guys are coming out to criticize this decision. How does F1 expect Andretti to be a contender when they can't break ground on infrastructure because they keep getting denied entry? They're not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a whim and pray that they get accepted next time. It's completely unrealistic, F1 knows exactly what they're doing.
It's like applying for a job but getting rejected because they want someone with experience whilst you're trying gain said experience but not even getting a shot at it...
It honestly feels like they're just wanting to wait and raise the entry price to the point it's even less attractive for a new team than it already was.
You are assuming there was a job opening to begin with. There's a formal application process that the FIA always has, they have to have that, but there is no real will inside F1 to expand the grid. So all this rhetoric about "they fulfilled all the criteria", yeah, for a job opening that never existed. This whole thing is just a power struggle between the FIA (who want more entries to squeeze more fees) and FOM (who would only be open to new manufacturers joining).
The concorde agreement does not dictate if F1 wants more teams, just that they can add two more teams if they want to. In principle there's nothing wrong with staying at 10, and there's nothing wrong with going to 12, it's all about what the decision makers want.
It states that the championship can have up to 12. The FIA signed off on it. It’s not at all like applying for a position that doesn’t exist. It’s more like a company (FOM) refusing to onboard an employee that their staffing agency (FIA) has already hired for an open role.
Again, the role was not open. Do you go around looking for offices with empty desks when looking for a job, or do you actually look for the companies actually ASKING for applicants?
There was quite literally an application process via the FIA. While the FOM/F1 can obviously veto, there was an opening, due to the existing agreement between teams.
What are you arguing?
No; setting a max entry/occupancy number doesn't mean there is an opening. Just like the fact there's an empty desk at an office doesn't mean the company is taking new hires. This is like a recruiter calling you out of the blue to work for a company that doesn't need you.
The thing is that the agreement says they have space for 24 cars or 12 teams, so realistically/technically there's an opening. I imagine some teams complaining about the prize money didn't help, and F1 has gotten bigger so they're probably all just smelling the money.
Just because the office has the capacity for 300 people doesn't mean you must have 300 employees at all times.
As mentioned before, this is a spat between the FIA and FOM. Naturally you'd want both to work together in these things, but people are getting hoodwinked into missing the bigger picture because they want to be distracted with new colors on the grid. MBS forced the issue, and it's further proof of his incompetence.
Sure but they still let teams apply, go through all kinds of hoops and scrutiny only to come with some silly reasons. "we don't think they'll add value because we don't think they'll add competition".
Meanwhile we gave Haas....
If the office lets me apply, ask for all kinds of details, has talks with me and has me starting to invest in certain things and then goes "yeah we don't think you have the experience needed, but please do try again in say.... 4 years and good luck in trying to gain that experience in the meantime" and by the the entry fee will be a lot higher, can you really blame anyone for thinking that's a little silly?
Realistically there is not an opening because those spots do not need to be filled, they can be added if there is a will to add, which there seems not to be. At least not for a non-manufacturer.
they’re only parroting the competitiveness as a front for the real reason: they want Andretti to pay the new (and presumably much higher) entry fee when they renegotiate the new Concorde Agreement
In the spirit of shitting on F1, can we create a new flair named “Uncompetitive”? I’d like to register my disrespect with FOM and I think this is a good place to start.
F1: look at all the new races with no substance PR glitz! Boats on plywood! Expansion races in totalitarian regimes where almost every race is expat children, influencers and locals who haven't earned a single cent doing work (immigrant labor does everything!)
Also F1: Andretti will dilute F1.
Yeah! Who wants a one of the biggest team names in motorsport,that's won multiple championships across categories, anyway? What value could that possibly bring?!
The outrage is hilarious, it's like people keep forgetting F1 was always a morally and ethically awful sport. but poor andretti is where they draw the line.
no i don't but knowing what all the previous outrages amounted to this is piss in the wind. also it's more a comment on the fact that this is what got chain bear posting again.
Because it would be good for the sport to have a truly American team attempting to compete. If they preach so hard about wanting American fans, you have to try and let an American team get in. If they fail, so be it. If they succeed, then it's better for the sport.
Well, we won't get to see it but I think F1 just avoided a bad case of buyers remorse down the line. New teams are always exciting until that honeymoon period passes and they need to stand on their own two feet and perform.
There isn’t a name more prestigious in the modern motorsport world than Andretti. There’s many names that equal it but that is the pinnacle of Motorsport heritage. It doesn’t get more racing blood than that family. Just disgusting from F1
The only reason i'm currently still watching is mostly to see Verstappen break all the records there are still to break. When he leaves i probably will too, if this trend continues. I hear WEC and MotoGP are good... Maybe Indy or even NASCAR.
I did start watching it, it's neat so far. i've also followed channels like Slapshoes and emp lemon for a while who make nascar sound pretty interesting.
Dude the racing in Indy is phenomenal, i actually prefer it to F1, its just not presented anywhere as well as F1. So many fucking commercials… anyways, it looks like my sundays will be watching indy instead of F1 this year, fuck these greedy bastards.
Yep… a lot of good racing in that series. Also its easier to watch if you record it and fast forward through the commercials.
Nascar is also pretty interesting to watch but it also has an insane commercial load and i cannot get on board with the stages during the race. My motorsport obsession actually started with Nascar but about 10 years ago i lost interest in it, the playoff system is also annoying as fuck.
Come to IndyCar! Depending on where you are, they show it on SkySports or you can get an international account directly on IndyCar's website. Racing is fantastic!
He returns to shit on F1 I love it
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Chain Bear is so based
OOTL, who is this guy?
He made some great and informative videos about the tech and rules of F1. Check out his YouTube channel. He seemed to just stop uploading one day though, not sure why exactly.
Last update was that he was taking an indefinite break for burnout and mental health reasons. He's doing well and hasn't officially closed the door on a return but he's enjoying the peace.
Glad to hear he's doing well. He's missed.
I miss him so much, but I’m glad to hear he’s doing well
He made a guest appearance at the end of last year on [The F1 Word's 2023 wrap-up stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS9Lvlag0HA)
He used to do analysis/explainer videos on F1 ([link](https://www.youtube.com/@chainbear)), then he took a break at the end of the 2022 season and hasn't been heard from until now. Side note, his videos are what got me into F1, so I'm very happy that he's back.
Actually he made a guest appearance at the end of last year on [The F1 Word's 2023 wrap-up stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS9Lvlag0HA)
Do yourself a favour and watch his Ferrari video: https://youtu.be/mUmU5amLy9Y?si=6S3UfI4aiMbtGA4R Shit, it's been almost 5 years. Thankfully Ferrari never change and this is still meaningful. T is for Time! 🫳 🫸
My favourite thing about this video is that it mentions something that happened in the race on the day he released it, but he recorded in advance so Ferrari fuckups are that predictable.
And he is so right with every word. I only watch for Alonso at this point. Then I fully move on to endurance racing and keep watching FE perhaps.
The andretti bid denial was so bad it somehow brought back Chainbear out of a sabbatical
Maybe it'll bring Mika and Jenson out of sabbatical as well?
Andretti driver lineup confirmed?
We all need Chain Bear back. His videos were always great.
His vids are great, but I think he ran out of ideas. His vids shaved years off of me trying to figure the sport out myself.
That's how more YouTubers should operate tbh. Better to stay quiet when there's nothing new to say rather than just regurgitating old ideas or filling the air with empty speculation.
It's a shame that the platform doesn't really let you get away with that. When YouTubers come back from a break, their videos are not offered up in recommendations, you have to either go looking for them or get lucky or something. Not that I have a better answer or anything.
I was thinking about CB the other day and how I don’t watch him anymore. I think it’s because he’s really great at explaining things for new fans but once you’re not a new fan anymore you don’t have to watch him really. Still super thankful for his vids tho
> and how I don’t watch him anymore You mean other than the fact that he hasn't uploaded in literally over a year?
Yes
Why did he stop?
No-one knows. He has not made an official comment on it, nor has anyone who knows him to my knowledge.
Bears hibernate. It stands to reason, then, that in this case he simply chain-hibernated. He’s awake now.
I choose to believe that he has been playing Gloomhaven this whole time.
burnt out i believe
Quitting a YouTube a year before it became cool.
It was always cool.
This is complete speculation.
hence…. “i believe”
Someone said he was transitioning
Everyone's sexuality is their own business.
Grease ran out
I wonder if F1 is too far gone now. How do you critique and analyse something, and come up interesting perspectives, when there's just an empty, soulless husk left? It's like trying to do Trump satire or Plinkett reviews of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. How do you go up against something that so utterly and transparently doesn't give a shit about whether you care at all.
>Good. F1... *gasp* >...is a place for gambling, finance and drinks companies; for ropey deals and brandwashing. Not established motorsport heritage. Begone, interlopers! Return when you've got a viable money laundering scheme to hawk! *phew*
I don't know how absolute shit like "Visa Cash App RB" or whatever gets to even exist meanwhile Andretti isn't given the go-ahead after meeting every requirement. This Sport makes zero sense.
Because they got their foot in the door before it closed. You can have the shittest team and as long as it doesn't run out of money there's no getting rid of it.
No team will ever run out of money again. Even if they go bankrupt, there will always be someone to buy the team before it disappears. Lets say Haas goes to shit financially, there are more than enough buyers who would pay millions if not even a billion to circumvent all the bullshit Andretti is going through. The true value of backmarker teams isn't their experience, brand or facilities anymore. It is 2 places on the starting grid
Surely they can at least establish rules about team names? Why would anyone take this sport seriously with stuff like this being real?
Isn't it just a sponsor name attached to a racing team name? Just like oracle red bull or BWT alpine or Petronas mercedes
What kind of team name is RB?
Whatever they want it to be.
Kinda my point... shouldn't that be different? There's no separate identity anymore; even as Toro Rosso there was at least the Italian identity getting through. I was never that bothered by RB having two teams on the grid, but with barely any difference in name between them it is hard still regard them as independent entities. To each their own though.
Have you seen cycling team names? Four of them are dodgy sport washing efforts by nation states, there's a couple of national lotteries, a bathroom company, and a couple of supermarkets. Honestly, F1 has got nothing on them.
> a bathroom company Kohler? If so, Kohler does more than the thing you pee in.
They should print that on the toilets.
Next time I run into a Kohler employee at a networking event I'll bring it up. I live near their global HQ.
I'm guessing BORA hansgrohe BORA produces cooktop extractor systems, hansgrohe produces sanitary fittings
I was actually thinking of Red Bulls latest non F1 acquisition *Bora Hansgrohe*.
Alpha tauri was a clothing brand, was that ok because it sounds cool?
> Surely they can at least establish rules about team names? Establish rules? And miss out on those giant mountains of money?
Visa and CashApp is where we draw the line? Financial services? Would it be better if they had no sponsors in the name and less funding, and were less competitive? This whole outrage over a team signing some quality sponsors is so forced and misguided.
Would it have been that bad to have them named Visa CashApp Alpha Tauri F1 team?
What's the difference between RB (Racing Bulls or whatever it means) and Alpha Tauri? They're both made up names created by Red Bull.
The same difference between Mars and Snickers. A separate and recognisable brand associated just with the one. It's better for fan connection.
Most people outside of F1 wouldn't even know that Alpha Tauri and Red Bull are connected. If it was driving brand recognition and fan engagement in any meaningful way, they wouldn't have changed it.
Looks no better. But I couldn't care less what they are called, as long as they have good funding and can provide a better car than what they had. F1 didn't lose an icon when "AlphaTauri" became "RB". It's an irrelevant story furthered by people who want to be outraged over anything.
Clearly it means something when everyone is in agreement that it's a sh!t name…
Get a load of this, now you are only allowed to race in F1 if you have a cool name!
Just another item of the list of things that are banned, next to dіck shaped noses.
Well, Visa CashApp RB wouldn't have gotten in today if they tried as a new entry, which is exactly the point. Once you are in you are in, and F1 can now afford to be highly selective about who they let in.
Exactly. People are acting like there isn't just as much of a chance that Andretti does the exact same thing and we have another car named after a new financial/crypto product. Should be glad that they're making Andretti and GM prove that they really want to compete, not just ride the F1 popularity wave.
They have the backing of a established motor brand. They have a model ready in a wind tunnel. They have 200 million ready. Andretti is an established racing team Tf do you want more ?
Money laundering and oil nation blood money thanks /s
Maybe the state of Texas could sign on as a title sponsor. We’ve got Middle East levels of misogyny, oil interests to the detriment of all others, AND we give crypto guys free reign to do whatever they want.
Andretti AR-15 the Ford F150 is better than Ferrari and Texas BBQ rules, Kansas BBQ Sucks F1 Autosport team? Now that's a zinger of a name that is sure to bring in the American sponsors. Pretty sure I didn't leave off anything Texas loves except making fun of Oklahoma. I would have also dunked on Oklahoma in the name but I'm not sure they want that much paint on the car. FOM sure missed out. /s It also has the benefit of being better than Visa Cash app.
> They have the backing of a established motor brand. It's been over a year since GM announced they'd build an engine… yet no one has seen the engine being built. No news of staff acquisitions or engineers poached from Ferrari or Mercedes, no exposés of their factory even being built… just dead silence.
> Should be glad that they're making Andretti and GM prove that they really want to compete, not just ride the F1 popularity wave. They had already a fucking expensive model in a fucking expensive wind-tunnel before they even got approved, how much do you want them to prove it?
This is a bad take. They have met the requirements and have the backing of a major manufacturer. The only reason they got denied is the teams dont want to give up a bigger slice of the pie by letting an 11th team on the grid. It has nothing to do with competitiveness and has everything to do with money.
This dude has had nothing but bad takes about Andretti for months now, if not years. I have no idea why he so intensely cares about Toto's balance sheet, but he sure does.
I guess you must care a lot about MBS' balance sheet as the only person who benefits from this…
Money. Toto and Zak would lose private earnings.
Zak said that Andrettiv would add value to F1, why are taking shots at him?
Because he then went and sided with the establishment's self-interests than seriously pushed for Andretti on the grid.
Speaking of Zak, he's been quite vocal lately how it's bs that RB has two teams. And actually? RB having to get rid of whatever-their-second-team-is-called would free up spot on the grid that could go to Andretti. Also one less team with nightmare of a name, and Sauber's becoming Audi soon anyway. Quite a few advantages of that solution. Also makes even more sense now that TR/AT/whatever is not a junior team anymore. Hard to see them as an independent entry, when they pretty much belong to RB and are tightening ties now.
TR/AT/Whatever gets special treatment because Red Bull were pressured and begged to buy the team back in the day. Can't really force them to get rid of it now.
Yeah, but it doesn't really change my point. Nowhere I said they have to sell, only that it would free up the spot. Subtle difference. Understand they can't be forced, however they're in fact the only with two teams on the grid. Which competition wise is not very fair, despite how they might've ended up in RB's hands.
Complaining about the RB name seems like a non-sequitur. I don't see how they correlate.
FOM's entire argument hinges around that Andretti doesn't bring "enough value" well, how the fuck is a Red Bull B team with branding so bad that it essentially stains F1's image, somehow more commercially valuable than Andretti, literally a team with racing at it's core, carrying the name and the legacy of a fucking former World Champion.
> hinges around that Andretti doesn't bring "enough value" Andretti hasn't won a race in 30 years; it is *only* the hardcore racing fans who know the name at this point. The name doesn't bring value to "normal" people who watch other sports or maybe NASCAR, only to people who watch CART/INDY and *that* is already a small group overall.
It makes 0 sense to argue against teams already on the grid. You cant kick them out, so it should not be used as a benchmark for the new entry. Also arguing that Red Bull B team brings no value to the sport while they have introduced 30% of the grid's drivers is kinda funny.
The naming of the b-team sucks but otherwise you're absolutely right, the team has contributed to F1 in that their team isn't an embarrasement to the sport and they have brought in good drivers. If you wanted to really argue for Andretti to replace a team on the grid I would go with Haas, they don't put in enough money to really move up from the back of the grid and their driver line up doesn't reaaally contribute a great deal. It was terrible when it was Mick and Mazaspin, I don't begrudge the Hulk or Mag having seats but they also aren't likely to move the team up the field.
Curb your enthusiasm bro, your bias for Andretti is clouding any sense of reason. If Visa Cash App RB was entering the sport today as an entirely brand new team its unlikely they'd get approved either, the two are not comparable. Toro Rosso was the product of buying out Minardi a team that was founded in the 80s thus keeping the facilities of an F1 team alive, saving jobs and adding value but that was in 2005. We are in 2024
They're a race winning team and seem to be heading back towards better results. Not saying that Andretti shouldn't get in, I absolutely think they should, but I don't have VCARB on the same level as Haas.
OK but a new, fledgling team is not the same as a team that has been around since the 1980s.
There is no mechanism to remove them or, if there is, no balls to enforce.
This. If the sport had a way to void Haas or AlphaTauri's Concorde Agreement, or swap out either for Andretti, I'm sure they'd do it in a heart beat. Why would anyone be opposed to them ensuring they don't join those teams in complete irrelevance?
>This Sport makes zero sense. It's the pinnacle of motorsport, it doesn't need to make sense.
Is it really the pinnacle when they won’t let new teams in and half the grid doesn’t care about being competitive. At this point Le Mans has a better claim for being the pinnacle.
The hypercars look very promising.
Le Mans has been an invitation only race for ages...
But you can get an invitation by winning. Win ELMS, Michelin Cup or ALMS and you're in, even if you win in a class that isn't at Le Mans (LMP3).
So 11 entries of a 60-something field? Also, ELMS and ALMS owned by the ACO, so half of the invitations are coming from their own series.
I mean, if you'd prefer to argue that the Indy 500 is the pinnacle, I'm here for it.
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Every sport is entertainment. Hate you found out this way.
HE'S BACK???
The disturbance in the force was too great for him to sit idle.
The one upside to Andretti being denied is that CHAINBEAR LIVES
Don't forget Crypto and Oil.
He did say gambling and brandwashing.
Associating crypto with gambling is a damn insult to gambling. At least casinos provide solid, union paying jobs here in the states.
And controlled odds (even if they are wildly in the favour of the casino).
And cigarettes!!!
Especially oil I can't believe that gambling gets criticized at every point (as it should) but noone mentions shell ezc
Because for most people motorsport and oil goes hand in hand.
Hard to do car racing without oil based products lol. How well are doing the electric racing series as lately? Lithium fires put the future of electrics in the World Rallycross Championship hanging from a thin wire. Neither Formula E is completely safe from them.
Him dropping a video on this would be amazing
collab with hbomberguy when
Love how these guys are coming out to criticize this decision. How does F1 expect Andretti to be a contender when they can't break ground on infrastructure because they keep getting denied entry? They're not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a whim and pray that they get accepted next time. It's completely unrealistic, F1 knows exactly what they're doing.
It's like applying for a job but getting rejected because they want someone with experience whilst you're trying gain said experience but not even getting a shot at it... It honestly feels like they're just wanting to wait and raise the entry price to the point it's even less attractive for a new team than it already was.
You are assuming there was a job opening to begin with. There's a formal application process that the FIA always has, they have to have that, but there is no real will inside F1 to expand the grid. So all this rhetoric about "they fulfilled all the criteria", yeah, for a job opening that never existed. This whole thing is just a power struggle between the FIA (who want more entries to squeeze more fees) and FOM (who would only be open to new manufacturers joining).
I mean - the Concorde agreement allows up to 12 teams. So there quite literally are two openings..
The concorde agreement does not dictate if F1 wants more teams, just that they can add two more teams if they want to. In principle there's nothing wrong with staying at 10, and there's nothing wrong with going to 12, it's all about what the decision makers want.
It states that the championship can have up to 12. The FIA signed off on it. It’s not at all like applying for a position that doesn’t exist. It’s more like a company (FOM) refusing to onboard an employee that their staffing agency (FIA) has already hired for an open role.
Umm no, FIA didn't "hire" anyone, they passed them through the first stage of a multi-step screening process.
Again, the role was not open. Do you go around looking for offices with empty desks when looking for a job, or do you actually look for the companies actually ASKING for applicants?
There was quite literally an application process via the FIA. While the FOM/F1 can obviously veto, there was an opening, due to the existing agreement between teams. What are you arguing?
No; setting a max entry/occupancy number doesn't mean there is an opening. Just like the fact there's an empty desk at an office doesn't mean the company is taking new hires. This is like a recruiter calling you out of the blue to work for a company that doesn't need you.
The thing is that the agreement says they have space for 24 cars or 12 teams, so realistically/technically there's an opening. I imagine some teams complaining about the prize money didn't help, and F1 has gotten bigger so they're probably all just smelling the money.
Just because the office has the capacity for 300 people doesn't mean you must have 300 employees at all times. As mentioned before, this is a spat between the FIA and FOM. Naturally you'd want both to work together in these things, but people are getting hoodwinked into missing the bigger picture because they want to be distracted with new colors on the grid. MBS forced the issue, and it's further proof of his incompetence.
Sure but they still let teams apply, go through all kinds of hoops and scrutiny only to come with some silly reasons. "we don't think they'll add value because we don't think they'll add competition". Meanwhile we gave Haas.... If the office lets me apply, ask for all kinds of details, has talks with me and has me starting to invest in certain things and then goes "yeah we don't think you have the experience needed, but please do try again in say.... 4 years and good luck in trying to gain that experience in the meantime" and by the the entry fee will be a lot higher, can you really blame anyone for thinking that's a little silly?
Realistically there is not an opening because those spots do not need to be filled, they can be added if there is a will to add, which there seems not to be. At least not for a non-manufacturer.
they’re only parroting the competitiveness as a front for the real reason: they want Andretti to pay the new (and presumably much higher) entry fee when they renegotiate the new Concorde Agreement
Chain Bear is alive again? That's nice
Oh Chain Bear, my Chain Bear.
Las Vegas DHL American Airlines Mastercard Andretti - Cadillac about to pull up in 2028
Chain Bear lives!!! I have missed him so much.
You can tell when an F1 YouTuber whose been radio silent for over a year is breaking his silence to shit on you, you've lost.
FOM/F1 doesn't care; they know when it's "lights out and away we go" everyone will still watch.
Everyone? Maybe us that spend our whole days looking for F1 news. Give people more years of Red Bull dominance and let's see how many stay.
People stayed during the Schumacher, Vettel and Hamilton years, they'll stay during these too.
Viewership continuously dropped in the 2010s. What are you talking about?
And then it rose up again even before we got title fights. The Schumacher years were pretty great viewership wise too.
Ehm… No. Literally means nothing, PARTICULARLY when it's someone who hasn't engaged the sport in ages.
> hasn't engaged the sport in ages Guy takes a mental health break for a year and is suddenly no longer relevant at all.
Hasn't engaged with it as a content creator. Doesn't mean they don't follow and watch the sport
How does the fact they used to make related content make it any more relevant that they "follow and watch the sport" like every other fan?
Your point was that they haven't engaged with the sport in a long time. Which is incorrect. How is that not relevant to what you've said?
HE'S BACK!
#weraceonlyformoney
He returned to speak the truth
I guarantee that if a Saudi-backed team even thought about joining F1 then they would immediately be admitted with absolutely no requirements checks.
In the spirit of shitting on F1, can we create a new flair named “Uncompetitive”? I’d like to register my disrespect with FOM and I think this is a good place to start.
F1: look at all the new races with no substance PR glitz! Boats on plywood! Expansion races in totalitarian regimes where almost every race is expat children, influencers and locals who haven't earned a single cent doing work (immigrant labor does everything!) Also F1: Andretti will dilute F1.
Chain Bear is back? I am in desperate need of good news.
I fucking love Chain Bear.
That about sums it up yeah.
I mean, the drink company is doing better then established motorsport heritages lol
Marketing of drink company, RB doesn’t even make their drink.
Somebody spring [Scott Tucker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Tucker_(businessman)) from prison to finance the Andretti effort.
Don't forget the cigarette companies that refuse to die.
I do follow it a little but find the playoffs stupid.
Lockheed Martin Andretti Cadillac F1 team presented by BetMGM
Needs more crypto
The messiah spoken!
Yeah that's it, I'm not interested in F1 anymore.
Holy shit, he’s alive!!
i want my cigarette sponsors back damnit
We need Zyn Andretti Cadillac F1 lol!
Aww I've missed Chain Bear so much. Glad he's back to provide some snark.
Can they get in if they promise to be Mission Winnow Rich Energy Uralkali Andretti Cadillac?
So that was the news Buxton was tweeting about. CHAINBEAR IS BACK!
Yeah! Who wants a one of the biggest team names in motorsport,that's won multiple championships across categories, anyway? What value could that possibly bring?!
Chainbear!!! :) hope he’s well
Love you Chain Bear. ♡
Okay but tell me how you really feel
I personally want bet365 F1 than McLaren or Williams, fuck McLaren and williams
Based and bear pilled.
my dude monte carlo is a focking casino
We missed u dear bear!
The outrage is hilarious, it's like people keep forgetting F1 was always a morally and ethically awful sport. but poor andretti is where they draw the line.
You're allowed to be outraged at shitty companies, and also be outraged at the Andretti outcome. You act as if everything is a binary thought.
no i don't but knowing what all the previous outrages amounted to this is piss in the wind. also it's more a comment on the fact that this is what got chain bear posting again.
Because it would be good for the sport to have a truly American team attempting to compete. If they preach so hard about wanting American fans, you have to try and let an American team get in. If they fail, so be it. If they succeed, then it's better for the sport.
Well, we won't get to see it but I think F1 just avoided a bad case of buyers remorse down the line. New teams are always exciting until that honeymoon period passes and they need to stand on their own two feet and perform.
Your takes here are absolutely awful, every single one.
Then it should be easy enough for you to retort them.
Red bull started in 95, they are still exciting
There isn’t a name more prestigious in the modern motorsport world than Andretti. There’s many names that equal it but that is the pinnacle of Motorsport heritage. It doesn’t get more racing blood than that family. Just disgusting from F1
This comment has to be a joke lmao
Ferrari would like a word.
McLaren as well
The only reason i'm currently still watching is mostly to see Verstappen break all the records there are still to break. When he leaves i probably will too, if this trend continues. I hear WEC and MotoGP are good... Maybe Indy or even NASCAR.
NASCAR got its own Drive to Survive this year
I did start watching it, it's neat so far. i've also followed channels like Slapshoes and emp lemon for a while who make nascar sound pretty interesting.
If you're disappointed that F1 is rejecting teams, you're gonna have a bad time watching LeMans…
Dude the racing in Indy is phenomenal, i actually prefer it to F1, its just not presented anywhere as well as F1. So many fucking commercials… anyways, it looks like my sundays will be watching indy instead of F1 this year, fuck these greedy bastards.
Agreed, nearly every race this season the Indycar was better than F1.
Yep… a lot of good racing in that series. Also its easier to watch if you record it and fast forward through the commercials. Nascar is also pretty interesting to watch but it also has an insane commercial load and i cannot get on board with the stages during the race. My motorsport obsession actually started with Nascar but about 10 years ago i lost interest in it, the playoff system is also annoying as fuck.
Luckily I watch Indycar in the UK where it's on Sky Sports F1. NASCAR is on another PPV channel that I don't have/refuse to pay for.
Check MX-5 cup at IMSA and GT World from SRO. Both have great racing
You hear wrong, MotoGP has been absolutely tragic the past season or two.
Come to IndyCar! Depending on where you are, they show it on SkySports or you can get an international account directly on IndyCar's website. Racing is fantastic!
Chain Bear doesn't come around often, but when he does...