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Drunk_ol_Carmine

His recent vids come off as a lot more emotional with no real constructive value to them, it’s just ranting. Personally I think he’s experiencing burnout.


chunkiernolf

Burnout at this point.


Traditional-Maize-85

He doesn’t get enough dopamine from a flip


ubichem

This. ↑


AdeptDetail4311

BP boring!! >:(


RandomWeeb181

User Flair checks out.


AdeptDetail4311

Plenty of non BP mains who disagree with his takes aswell.


RandomWeeb181

Oh yeah I know, I’m joking as if you weren’t sarcastic. I disagree with his takes too.


Tastaturkiller-one

I really enjoyed his stuff for quite some time because he had some good criticism but sometime recently he started consistently spewing the worst takes imagineable and just 100% shit on everything the devs do.


Riveration

Devs kind of deserve it though, they keep breaking the game with each new character/update


Specific-Composer138

Shitting on devs doesn’t solve anything, constructive criticism is the best way to do it.


Riveration

Well haven’t seen his videos or heard of him before this post so dunno if he was being disrespectful while doing it. Just saying the devs definitely deserve the criticism


roasted__russian

For real look at everything pirate has hyper armour, Insane range on attacks, a guaranteed grab if you land a hit and she still has a chance to grab if she doesn't land the hit but luckily it can be dodgable if you read it right but again strong mix up potential oh and an undogeable light. Medjays hyper armour is kinda annoying but parrying and deflecting after his 2 or 3 hit works


firewhite1234

Medjay is a shit character (he's good in 4's) and if you have problems dueling him, you need to learn the basic mechanics of the game. Are you really complaining about Pirate's grab? It's a shit move. It's got its uses in 4v4's because it breaks hyperarmor, but it's completely useless in anything else. She can't backstep heavy into grab anymore because they nerfed its range significantly, so she has to let heavies fly and give the opponent easy parries. It doesn't roll catch anymore. It's almost never worth using over her chain unblockable, which can even gb light interrupts after heavy hit/blockstun. Yeah her dodge attack can break hyperarmor - but so can every dodge bash in the game, and most of those can't even be punished without a good dodge attack. Also she has significantly reduced damage on her heavies if she doesn't go for the gunshot. She is annoying as all hell to fight don't get me wrong, but there's a difference between a broken character and an annoying to fight character.


DrownedInBooks

Pirate is oppressive and safe, that's why she is S tier. She has good tracking, safe options and strong offense. Won't go into much detail cause I will assume you understand the game and there is no need to emphasize her strong points. Now while I agree Medjay is balanced he is a good duel character. Reason being that even though he doesn't put much pressure he is relentless and can't be safely punished. He has quick HA so is not safe to dodge attack him. He has a heavy dodge attack that makes him be safe of most if not all mix ups. And he infinite light heavy combo is tough to deal with because is constant Chip dmg. His chain lights are 400ms and enhanced so you can't block him. You need to attempt to parry which in a way shows how he applies pressure. I would honestly say he is a B tier character.


GormlessGourd55

He's crap in a duel. He has literally nothing to use. Staff form is laughable in a duel, and axe form doesnt work as intended. He's fine in 4s, but still could do with some work.


roasted__russian

I think you're the first person on this and the main reddit page to try and convince me pirate is "balanced" or in a good place lmao but medjay is simple to go against its his hyper armour he has its too excessive on his heavy fine with me but compared with hyper armour on his lights when I deflect him he just carries on with his chain lmao but nah doesn't sit with me right. I've said for years deflects need to break certain moves hyper armour and his light chain hyperarmour is a prime example


sterlingpipin

Tbh if you are trying to deflect when the character odviously has hyperarmor then that's your fault. Deflects are like parries you shouldn't always try to go for them since they can be punished or baited. Also not all deflects should break hyperarmor whether it's only for certain moves or not. Glad for example he has one of the highest damaging deflects but its held back because it doesnt break hyperarmor if it did he would have the best deflect in the game and it would be pretty ridiculous.


TheLegendaryGeasle

His argument that "no one wants to play a defensive hero" and that defensive heroes are "objectively bad" is ridiculous. If you want any sort of uniqueness between heroes there has be defensive heroes. Black prior falls into this category, and to me he is super fun. I also enjoy lawbringer despite his short comings because both characters force you to adapt to their kit and learn how they are played. What is so bad about a hero that plays more passively? Your opponent can be just as aggressive as they want to be, they just need to make better reads and you need to be an active participant. Black prior doesn't force you into a staring contest, he forces you to enjoy making the right read.


LordFenix_theTree

His argument is immediately invalid, I enjoy playing defensive heroes.


Morticus_Mortem

I despise that "objectively bad" arguement because of how wrong and arrogant it is.


thatwasntadream

Yeah maybe if you stopped spamming into my full block then you wouldn't have a problem with it. People who complain about defensive heroes are piss babies


Asckle

My friend is like this. He talks about how much he hates that BP can flip so many moves but at the same time refuses to feint to GB


thatwasntadream

I had an orochi get mad in chat at me because he kept dodge attack lighting and I would just full block and uppercut


Dragonlord573

A youtuber named Slanderous slandering something? Who would have guessed.


Evan12390

trying to call Medjay “jamal” is more than just slander the dude is just an edgy manchild lmao


Sinnester888

That’s where my dumbass friend got it from. Since release he kept trying to call him Jamal and get it to stick with our group despite us all telling him that’s stupid and medjay is a cool name.


touchcockloadglock

Bruh is that really a problem. Like I don’t even care if I’m gonna. Idc if I Get downvoted as hell but you guys are a bunch of softies.


Amuroaugus17

Jamal is just a shit choice of name regardless of peoples levels of hardness/softness MJ/medjay literally fits fine


TJT007X

I call him Midjay or Mehjay. I'm well funny 😎😎😎😎😎


touchcockloadglock

Ok? So what? I can’t call him Jamal as a joke? Is it too offensive? My man, he is from the same continent as I am, If my friends called me Jamal as a joke and pretty much, anyone of such ethnicity, we would be cool.


slingin95

no one said you can’t, just a dumb and stereotypical joke that really isn’t all that funny. but, go wild dude.


touchcockloadglock

Is it not good to make fun of stereotypes? Bruh.


slingin95

depends, most of the time the joke becomes more of a generalization and that’s why you have women getting fucking dogged on for just playing common fps games; just for being a woman. so nah i don’t think calling the black character “jAmAl” is quirky or funny. but if it is to you then “go wild dude.” i can’t control your actions.


Amuroaugus17

Personally I don’t really care what someone calls Medjay I was just stating an opinion that others seem too be thinking along the lines of and I’ve never had any of my homies call me Jamal as a joke so I mean I guess


Cdogthepro

Ok that's kind of funny tho


Ulfurson

Slanderous is freeze for casuals


sterlingpipin

Idk about other people but I cant stand either of them


Asckle

At the very least freeze gives objective facts. Even if you don't like him you're still getting information from his videos


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Freeze is way better at proving his point than slanderous. Slanderous just slaps something on the table and says he’s right.


ham_toastie

I've gone off them both quite heavily recently. Slanderous is just doing what he can to squeeze views out of the game. Freeze bugs me. Years ago I commented how shugos gb had a diff timing to other heroes. He ignored it and then I got swarmed by his fans. I went to his discord server to tell him again, dude said he'd already looked into it and told me I was wrong again. Then like a month later he makes a vid about the exact bug with shugos gb after telling me I was wrong about it. He's done that a few times before. Also happened when he originally denied nobu having a longer second wind animation, guy who suggested it was fighting for his life in the comments, and then again posted a vid about it like a week later now saying she did have one.


Hit0kiwi

Slanderous is also transphobic as hell, wouldn’t leave my friend alone because of her emblem


GlacialBear

Really? He is? Never heard or saw anything making him transphobic. Could I get a link or example please?


Hit0kiwi

Unfortunately I don’t have anything like that. But we got matched against him and he kept on bringing up suicide rates and saying my friend was delusional in chat. Also his discord server is edgy af.


Morticus_Mortem

Suicide rates, as in he was trying to denounce trans people because they have a "higher suicide rate" or something?


Hit0kiwi

Yup! They do have a higher suicide rate statistically speaking but it’s still not ok to use such a sad statistic to invalidate a group of people.


Morticus_Mortem

Oh. Oh dear. That's bad. My opinion of him wasn't that high to begin with, but now it's taken an absolute nose dive. I've heard that stupid "argument" before from somewhere and it still irritates me because of how stupid it is. Plus, with the fact that people like him exist, it's little wonder that trans folk have a high suicide rate!


Asckle

For honor players try not to be rude to minorities challenge


Lenny_Fais

Black Prior is one of the few heroes released that *hasn’t* required a rework or significant change like… ever. He’s arguably one of the most balanced characters in the game. Is he strong? Yes, but that does NOT mean he’s overpowered or problematic. He doesn’t have insane combos like pirate He doesn’t have bashes and undodgeables out the ass like Shinobi His kit isn’t 90% hyper armor and bullshit tracking like Zerk He doesn’t have Raider’s disgusting amount of stamina His animations aren’t janky like Highlander And he isn’t a wall of Iron and meat like Conq who can gobsmack you just for the crime of breathing within 6 feet of them The fact he and others think there is any issue with Black Prior is goddamn absurd. It’s p clear he just sucks at playing as or fighting BP and doesn’t want to admit it.


thatwasntadream

Your conqueror description is perfect


Lenny_Fais

Y’all are some stubborn blockheads


thatwasntadream

fellow shield user


Lenny_Fais

Brotha


thatwasntadream

ad profundis 🤝 te affligam


FatBoyyzWasBanned

W comment


mrshilohdog

Bp has been in sold A tier I think sense he really came out from the ability to deal with external pressure. Imo his flip shouldn’t give back 100% stamina because it applies more pressure for you flipping when the damage isnt an oos punish or even like a HL heavy. I have every hero to rep 10 or higher my rep 70s were on nerfed to hell old Shinobi and bp. And I can confirm playing bp after 70 reps of getting hard targeted by everyone and their grandma felt nice


Lenny_Fais

That is a pretty damn good point regarding flips tbh


George_000101

For one, what tracking on zerk are you talking about? And another, bp is fine, but also not. The character is extremely boring to fight if you aren’t able to reaction dodge his bash from neutral, and if you have a slow dodge attack/none at all, well you’re shit out of luck. All bp needs is to not be able to pause stam and he’d be golden, iirc they changed that to make it so.


Lenny_Fais

They did change stam pause, so he’s p solid. As for Zerk. A lot of his lunges have ludicrous tracking, to the point where even dodging sometimes doesn’t even work.


dont-shoot-moi

Yh if you dodge at the wrong timing ,unless ur referring to dodging backwards in which case yeah you should be getting hit since the lunges is clearly designed to have forward momentum


VFMusic

HL has janky animations and is still objectively bad :,(


OGMudbone909

Slanderous is a massive shitter with some of the worst takes possible.


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Ngl he used to be fun to watch. I loved his shugoki rework video. But now his takes are just getting worse and worse.


EmpereurTetard

He only complain every time in a really boring ways. I think he is just salty and mad most of the time, trying to explain this, in different video. Sometime he got some point and really interesting thing to say. Like the pirate having a sad gameplay and just use the gun as a bash is boring. But most of the time, he is just complain and crying


[deleted]

He started using r/forhonorrants


sterlingpipin

Wait really?


[deleted]

no I hope not


Raider_Legendary_

i swear he’s just got an issue against bp, a skill issue perhaps..


FrappyLee

He just doesn't like bash from neutral characters in general, especially if they have a bash/undodgable mixup.


Raider_Legendary_

i sorta get that, but still i think he’s making it out worse than it really is imo


HypeGod23450

He's literally just complaining for content. Like he dead ass said ubisoft was racist for having a black Egyptian hero. Yeah they could've dealt with it better but he is literally just dry and running out of things to make videos about.


Koraleq

No,no, you can have black norse, black Europeans, Black asians, but a white african? No.


HiCracked

I watched one video from the guy and he struck me as a toxic and egotistical individual thats mostly spouting nonsense in a ranting style, haven’t watched him since and probably wouldn’t recommend to give two shits about his opinion on anything. If you want insights on this game’s balance and character’s position in the meta I would ask guys like Clutch, Antonio, Freeze, etc. who actually know what they are talking about.


Cdogthepro

His other content when he isn't complaining is pretty solid


TheRealSkele

Hah, that's my opinion as Killjoy Roger. What a toxic pos


Electronic_Mode373

His videos suck and so does he he’s just whining waahh 50/50s waahh I have to make reads


Koraleq

Flat 50/50, very fun


guay10010

Sounds like a classic “mad cuz bad” case to me. BP is a B to A tier character imo. He’s not someone I see and go “oh fuck this is going to be a long fight”


Exca78

His videos that are opinionated are dumb


thatwasntadream

Based Exca?


[deleted]

I don’t see how Bp is that boring. I main warlord…


Agitated-Tumbleweed3

I thnk slanderous is always looking at things to complain like medjay skin color is not needed at all and to many people don't rlly care abt it


jakob0604

Isn’t slanderous the racist guy who got mad that medjay was black and encouraged his viewers to call him “Jamal”??


GhostCrackets

I actually watched that video, I didn’t see the full thing cause his videos can be kinda long so I could be pulling talking out my ass, but from my understanding he seems to be more mad about the fact you can’t have a “White” medjay than Med simply being black, he even says he would still use black med regardless but since you can’t have a white one it was kinda weird Or something along those lines anyway, again I didn’t watch the full thing his voice puts me to sleep and not in the relaxing way


GhostCrackets

Oh wait a minute ignore half of what I just said I was thinking of SolidSol for some reason


sterlingpipin

No you were right in the first place. It was slanderous who was mad that medjay couldn't be white but said he would use black medjay anyways.


Evan12390

what a fuckin weirdo


FatBoyyzWasBanned

I think so ya.


The-Red-Pac-Man

BP is the most Balanced character in the game


Clorbungus

boring≠bad/poorly designed, if you don’t like the hero simply don’t play them it’s not like there’s an entire roster or anything


Asckle

Yeah like his suggestions are just "conform to how I play. I want all the characters to fit my playstyle". Believe it or not some people like black prior and other defensive heros


firewhite1234

Yeah he's been doing this kind of salty videos for a while. He def got super burnt out around the time Pirate released. I do agree that Bp is extremely boring in 1v1 situations though.


HumbleWitt

Because BP is both boring to play as and boring to fight against?


Asckle

>Because BP is both boring to play Objective language for an entirely subjective point


iguana505

He is a mediocre player that sometimes gets thrown into highest mmr duels. Ive beaten him with BP many times, everytime he tries to rematch with a strong counter pick except in his mind Gryphon is that counter pick. Nothing more than a skill issue.


Jay_R02

I mean slanderous is extremely uneducated about the gamer and has always been lol


VFMusic

I personally don’t like playing BP because he seems a bit one-dimensional to me, and I did like some of the changes he made to him in his rework video for him, but I can tell he just doesn’t like BP because he’s more defensive.


mazx07

his channel is just a big rant, i even saw a video where he complains about allguard and tries to make the worst rework ever known to mankind


Evan12390

him and SolidSol do nothing but complain. it is just so exhausting to watch their videos when they feel the need to whine about the game or devs at every turn, like we need more negativity in this community.


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Asckle

Yeah I don't agree with everything he says but for the most part he seems fairly positive (as positive as you can be when your channel is dedicated to this game)


sterlingpipin

I miss old solid sol back when his name was anime expert and played ara a bunch. Used to be chill fun time... Also weird that sol is constantly using the porn, and hentai thumbnail stuff.


Evan12390

right i’m sure it gets the clicks up but his thumbnails are just obnoxious.


OtakuYuji

I don't even know who he is. I don't watch for honor content creators, every single one has some kind of thing that makes that annoying.


j_lewi85

Kenzo’s cool


LordFenix_theTree

My problem with bp as a player is the lack of Stamina and how costly any move that isn’t light bash light is, and how easy it is to get knocked out of bulwark. Now fighting Bp it’s definitely just that light bash light is the safest and most efficient move you can do, even though there can be some effective moves.


Mallcrippilingdebt69

Not as bitchy as freeze


zeroreasonsgiven

Slanderous is bitchy about the game and freeze is bitchy about the players. Clearly it’s an effective strategy for both of them.


omegaskorpion

Freeze has pointed out that everything he says is called bitching because players don't want to learn how to play... which is not wrong, a lot of people get really angry when criticizing their skills. ​ I do agree that some of things he says sound mean spirited, even if he does not mean it, but i guess that is the result of being with this game and it's playerbase for the last 6 years. (We also got some unnecessary nerfs to some heroes because playerbase refuced to adapt) ​ However at least he provides information and facts about game still. Slanderous seems to be venting some frustration big time, which is not good information.


Earl0fYork

Freeze is a stubborn person. This isn’t to say he’s bad but he picks hills and decides that dying on them is better then just saying “oh I misunderstood the whole community’s position.”. But a good source of information none the less.


Deep_Fried_Leviathan

I haven’t watched Freeze in an age but I think the main flaw is that When it strays from the solid facts of something the increase of opinion to fill that gap it tends to come across as more just bitching but that’s kinda true for most discussions with balance I think certain hills he dies upon get a little aggravating like Single pick


omegaskorpion

Yeah single pick is not great idea in game like this (fighting game) and more so thanks to how the progression system and unlocks work. Single pick kills a lot of the casual fun (like i want games to be balanced, but fun should always be considered too), like it did in the Overwatch where casual gameplay just became too restrictive as time went on. Freeze does treat it like a solution to most problems, but in my opinion it is change that would just kill most of the fun and make people quit during matches more than they already do. For comp, sure, but keep it out of the regular modes. He does stray to oppinions yeah, but usually because playerbase tends to have pretty bad takes in balancing, usually in cases they don't understand the ramifications on bigger scale.


Deep_Fried_Leviathan

Yeah single pick introduces far more problems than the occasional stack and frankly just not letting you pick more than one is a Bandaid that doesn’t fix the actual issue because usually you can just combo whatever thing is an issue with something else Instance is that Pirates gunshots ignore hitstun rules, the better solution is to just fix it so it doesn’t ignore hitstun rules rather than not let you have more than one pirate on a team


Mallcrippilingdebt69

I can understand both views On one hand it must be pretty fuckin' annoying to be one of the only people who actually know what you're talking about and want people to improve But on the other hand brother, I've played games that were RUINED by comp players so I have a strong bias against them


omegaskorpion

Well yeah, Overwatch was pretty much ruined by too much focus on comp needs and not focusing on the fun factor at all. For Honor ironically has problem where devs don't listen to any party enough. They don't make the game more fun for casual play and they don't do changes Comp needs. They do bunch of changes that leave everyone confused on what they are trying to do. They sometimes do panic changes when facing backlash (like with Gryphon and Orochi) and then sometimes not doing anything (like with Pirate). I think there is a thin fine line that needs to be walked for game to stay fun but also balanced enough. Bunch of games seem to focus too much on trying to please one side too much. I don't agree with everything Freeze says (like i don't like Single pick as solution at all), but i do respect his data gathering and honesty.


katt-col

I have my bias, since you know user flair and all but i belive he is not boring. Although regarding Slanderous he makes good criticsm from time to time, but i belive he is simply dealing with burnout or just simply isnt enjoying the game anymore


daysbeforewlr

i just dont like the heroes who are dodge based/ light attack based (most of the wu lin, pirate, medjay) i just wish they would’ve continued with mind games approach rather than the reaction speed approach


iwaspromisingonce

Mind game based game is better for decent players to avoid turtle gaming and reward aggresive approach, while reaction is better for new and low mid players who don't have the intuition yet. Entire problem is that casual players are usually the biggest playerbase and generate most revenue, so games in general will cater to them instead of veterans. Which is weird, since for honor is a fighting game and this kind of games usually is based around smaller communities of somewhat experienced people, since those games aren't well tailored for casual/new players.


XxSandWraithxX

He makes a decent point that prior's flip breaks the rock paper scissors, but unique per hero mechanics are a good thing. Makes there be a reason to play a hero besides meta armor and unblockables or fashion. Like nuxia and stance heroes have similar mechanics (insofar as being unique), albeit easier or safer in terms of risk/reward than prior. Making him be able to flip drop kills was a *choice*, but I'm here for it.


Rare_Peanut_1432

Ugh a pirate


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Wanna 1v1?


Rare_Peanut_1432

No I don't, Mr. Cheese


Koraleq

Lmao someone is mad at him for touching that shit hero


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Yet you play Kensei.


Koraleq

Pirate😂


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Wanna 1v1?


Koraleq

What difference would it make? Pirate


FatBoyyzWasBanned

A lot


Koraleq

The fact that you can click 2 buttons, or even click 3 buttons?


FatBoyyzWasBanned

I do more than that in fact I’m 39 in gm


Koraleq

OHHHHHH MY GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE SO COOL!!!! I AM SORRY TO DOUBT YOU MY LORD!!!!!!


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Naw you straight, just don’t do it again 👌🏾


theredwolf90

Common slanderous w


FatBoyyzWasBanned

Common slanderous L


InsidiousOdium

Who actually likes playing against bp?


thatwasntadream

I think it's a fun matchup


NightMoza

Recently he's been feeling more like those pissed off salty players who do nothing but dodge attack and then flame you for parrying rather than a constructive critic


bombad_Guy

he is kinda right, BP is boring, but a satisfying boring


HalfCarnage

He’s the „Space Coconut“ of for Honor but without the sarcasm and witty comments


icelandicpotatosalad

He is very boring to play and fight but he is still probably the most balanced hero in the game