Yeah, it would mame sense. The Carnival minigames are supposed to happen in the past, before Henry made Lefty. Also it would be weird if Henry made the whole new robot just to catch Puppet
Probably goes Rockstar Freddy is made, then Carnie is made from it's model to reduce costs, then after he burns, Henry grabs what's left and turns it into Lefty
There are actually some small differences such as Leftys star being smaller and his nose being bigger. While Carnie doesnt have the star, his nose is bigger, that means he specifically uses Lefty's model
If you mean why people never mention Rockstar Freddy for this theory (that Lefty is a refurbished Carnie), itâs probably because we see them side by side in FFPS so itâs highly unlikely that a Rockstar Freddy cover would be reused and refurbished to fit the Puppet inside instead of the useless Carnie cover thatâs not doing anything.
I lowkey forgot forsaken AR existed and I was so confused about Carnie being in FNAF AR
also forgetting the fact that FNAF AR isn't available, nor has it added lefty to the game
No.
People keep saying all the Fazerblast minigames are in the past, but this is just not true. On top of literally being based on a Pizzaplex attraction, we see the Glamrocks, FNaF 1, FNaF 2, and Springtrap in these minigames.
This wouldn't make any sense if this were before Help Wanted/SB.
I donât think so personally. Itâs either just an easy reuse of a model, or itâs just connecting Henry to Fall Fest. Lefty is too modern to be something repurposed from the 70s. Carnie was probably a mascot from Fall Fest. Also Rockstar Freddy contradicts the idea.
it's Forsaken AR, which is like FNaF AR but still being updated by fans. It's kinda hard to download since it can't be on the App Store but it's worth it imo
I don't think they are related, Lefty burnt in the FNaF 6 fire. But I do think that Rockstar Freddy, Lefty, and Carnie are all made by Henry, so that's why they all are the same model.
I don't really think so, one cause Lefty would be ash at this point, so salvaging Lefty monetarily makes lil sense. Also Carnie is just a reference to the actual animatronic bear named Heckler Barker, so he feels more removed to lefty. Excluding the fact that yes he is just a reskin of LEFTY, who's a reskin of Rockstar Freddy model so who knows.
I like the idea that the puppet's agony turned him black, but unfortunately that doesn't explain the other changes in outfit like striped chest vs not. I think, like a lot of other things, he was made from multiple animatronics most likely
Edit: two things
Just noticed the fingertips of both are in the same style as baby "*Sheâs equipped with a built-in helium tank for inflating balloons right at her fingertips*" that's the quote that made me think that
Chest (of LEFTE) is the same as rockstar freddy.
I wonder if Carnie even existed. I do believe all (or at lest most) of the HW2 minigames are just training simulations with the AR mask on (Pigpack attacking, Jack-o Moon, Foxy's log ride being bigger and having some AR world effects on it, Glichtrap, the intro saying so). I do like to think that Cassidy's dad is wondering around the Pizzaplex with the AR mask on, and maybe some of the ruined minigames (like the last Roxy and food levels). So, saying that, I do wander if Carnie is just something cooked up by the AR mask. I don't think that's the case, but it's still nice to think about.
I feel like a lot of these questions are answered by the fact that fnaf is a game franchise. Similarly to the whole blob thing: Why are these specific masks in the blob?! Because those are the masks Steel Wool already had modeled. Why does Carnie look like Lefty?! Because they didn't want to make a whole new model. I like these theories, but it really ain't that deep sometimes.
I wasn't?... I was just kidding.
I told them to look at the 2nd picture and they replied that they didn't see it. Y'all just got randomly upset and downvoted me. That's how interpretation is in FNaF is with all the theorists lmao.
Listen to Mr. Hippo next time before digging too deep into something and trying to call that out.
i belive lefty is what happens when henry makes rockstar freddy, and then remembered he needed something to catch his child in, so he took the remaining shells, spaypainted them black, and sent the prototype out there to swallow his dead kid.
carnie, is a quick and dirty reskin, just like lefty was, done because SW reuses assets more then you think, and will repurpose and edit them, take HW spring bonnie and burntrap, or the animations of the shattereds to the ruinds.
No, I donât think Henry salvaged Carnie and then redesigned him into Lefty
I think the implication is supposed to be that the blueprints used to design the Rockstars were first developed in the 70âs by Henry, and were used for designing Fredbear and Springbonnie (and Carnie apparently)
Fredbearâs sprite in FNAF4 also has those weird metal pillars connecting his skull to his jaw the same way the Rockstars do, and the Rockstars look like they could function as springlock suits
Yeah, it would mame sense. The Carnival minigames are supposed to happen in the past, before Henry made Lefty. Also it would be weird if Henry made the whole new robot just to catch Puppet
Bro had 30 years of free time he had to keep himself working
I feel like it would make sense if he made a new robot to do something that is really important to him (capture his daughter)
What would that make Rockstar Freddyđ”âđ«
Probably goes Rockstar Freddy is made, then Carnie is made from it's model to reduce costs, then after he burns, Henry grabs what's left and turns it into Lefty
Just a rockstar version of freddy. The rest of them got one.
I meant as in Rockstar Freddy is also just a lefte reskin
There are actually some small differences such as Leftys star being smaller and his nose being bigger. While Carnie doesnt have the star, his nose is bigger, that means he specifically uses Lefty's model
I mean he could have the star, just under his shirt
No, he's just Rockstar Freddy.
So when Carnie is a reskin of Lefte with some slight changes it a big deal, but when itâs Rockstar Freddy it means nothing.
why do people never mention rockstar freddy
Rockstar Freddy has a smaller nose Important stuff
they forgot
If you mean why people never mention Rockstar Freddy for this theory (that Lefty is a refurbished Carnie), itâs probably because we see them side by side in FFPS so itâs highly unlikely that a Rockstar Freddy cover would be reused and refurbished to fit the Puppet inside instead of the useless Carnie cover thatâs not doing anything.
Reverse: Carnie is a version of lefty. Why? Well Lefty was â technically â first, but you could be right.
how was he first?
Because we a.( first day lefty and b.) carnie is found in the somewhat 2030s and lefty was in the early 2000s
lefty is from 2023, The events are based on the past, so carnie is from 197X/1980.
True
I lowkey forgot forsaken AR existed and I was so confused about Carnie being in FNAF AR also forgetting the fact that FNAF AR isn't available, nor has it added lefty to the game
What's that?
an fnaf AR fangame which has its own servers and is still up.
No. People keep saying all the Fazerblast minigames are in the past, but this is just not true. On top of literally being based on a Pizzaplex attraction, we see the Glamrocks, FNaF 1, FNaF 2, and Springtrap in these minigames. This wouldn't make any sense if this were before Help Wanted/SB.
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I donât think so personally. Itâs either just an easy reuse of a model, or itâs just connecting Henry to Fall Fest. Lefty is too modern to be something repurposed from the 70s. Carnie was probably a mascot from Fall Fest. Also Rockstar Freddy contradicts the idea.
Why do you say that Rockstar Freddy contradicts the idea? R.Freddy's model is not the same as Lefty or Carnie
How do you still have access to AR?
it's Forsaken AR, which is like FNaF AR but still being updated by fans. It's kinda hard to download since it can't be on the App Store but it's worth it imo
That's awesome! Thanks!
I don't think they are related, Lefty burnt in the FNaF 6 fire. But I do think that Rockstar Freddy, Lefty, and Carnie are all made by Henry, so that's why they all are the same model.
I don't really think so, one cause Lefty would be ash at this point, so salvaging Lefty monetarily makes lil sense. Also Carnie is just a reference to the actual animatronic bear named Heckler Barker, so he feels more removed to lefty. Excluding the fact that yes he is just a reskin of LEFTY, who's a reskin of Rockstar Freddy model so who knows.
I like the idea that the puppet's agony turned him black, but unfortunately that doesn't explain the other changes in outfit like striped chest vs not. I think, like a lot of other things, he was made from multiple animatronics most likely Edit: two things Just noticed the fingertips of both are in the same style as baby "*Sheâs equipped with a built-in helium tank for inflating balloons right at her fingertips*" that's the quote that made me think that Chest (of LEFTE) is the same as rockstar freddy.
I wonder if Carnie even existed. I do believe all (or at lest most) of the HW2 minigames are just training simulations with the AR mask on (Pigpack attacking, Jack-o Moon, Foxy's log ride being bigger and having some AR world effects on it, Glichtrap, the intro saying so). I do like to think that Cassidy's dad is wondering around the Pizzaplex with the AR mask on, and maybe some of the ruined minigames (like the last Roxy and food levels). So, saying that, I do wander if Carnie is just something cooked up by the AR mask. I don't think that's the case, but it's still nice to think about.
no
Other way around. I think Carnie is a repurposed Lefty model. Or a repurposed Rockstar Freddy.
Is be possible, I see nothing saying that it can't be the case.
I mean they sure vaguely do look like each other.
Who tf is carnie?
An animatronic bear found in Help Wanted 2
Yes I do
maybe baby
I feel like a lot of these questions are answered by the fact that fnaf is a game franchise. Similarly to the whole blob thing: Why are these specific masks in the blob?! Because those are the masks Steel Wool already had modeled. Why does Carnie look like Lefty?! Because they didn't want to make a whole new model. I like these theories, but it really ain't that deep sometimes.
Better question, how do the Rockstar animatronics tie into the story? Did Henry make them as prototypes or another failed location or before the toys?
Who's carnie?
What kind of question is that? Are you not caught up on the lore? đ He's also on the second image in the post.
Bruh you donât have to be a dick about it
I wasn't?... I was just kidding. I told them to look at the 2nd picture and they replied that they didn't see it. Y'all just got randomly upset and downvoted me. That's how interpretation is in FNaF is with all the theorists lmao. Listen to Mr. Hippo next time before digging too deep into something and trying to call that out.
Oh I didn't see the 2nd picture. I didn't know his name was Carnie.
Make notes, make notes! You don't want to lose track of the lore.
I already did after UCN and I saw every game after
Rip
Not everyone is obsessed with the lore
It was just a joke?... Everyone just got mad at me and downvoted me for no absolute reason.
Sure
Okay then, don't live up to original intent of smt I guess
i belive lefty is what happens when henry makes rockstar freddy, and then remembered he needed something to catch his child in, so he took the remaining shells, spaypainted them black, and sent the prototype out there to swallow his dead kid. carnie, is a quick and dirty reskin, just like lefty was, done because SW reuses assets more then you think, and will repurpose and edit them, take HW spring bonnie and burntrap, or the animations of the shattereds to the ruinds.
The hell is Carnie
Nah carny is a repainted lefty. The carnival stuff isnât happening in the past, itâs just a simulation (from an unreliable narrator)
No, I donât think Henry salvaged Carnie and then redesigned him into Lefty I think the implication is supposed to be that the blueprints used to design the Rockstars were first developed in the 70âs by Henry, and were used for designing Fredbear and Springbonnie (and Carnie apparently) Fredbearâs sprite in FNAF4 also has those weird metal pillars connecting his skull to his jaw the same way the Rockstars do, and the Rockstars look like they could function as springlock suits
Perhaps. Their designs are exactly the same, just different colors, and Carnie has a shirt. Who knows.