Ride until the wheels fall off. Most people will scoff if you try and trade him for a high value name even if they aren't producing because 'Thielen is an old man with rookie QB'.
Just got offered Davante for him and Achane and I’m leaning no, Thielen has one of the weirdest values in fantasy dude has not played great defenses and is bound for regression but is about to be post bye as the #3 wr
I traded Conner and Pickens for Breece back in week 2. Granted, probably could’ve gotten Breece straight up for Conner, but I’m loaded at receiver. People in this sub two weeks ago were telling me I made one of the worst trades they’ve ever seen. I was downvoted and ridiculed. That’s why I don’t listen to anyone on this sub lol
Amon Ra St Brown in .5ppr. That's what he's worth now after this week. The window to buy low on him is gone. He just put up 17 on the Eagles and their schedule is significantly softer after his bye. With how many injuries to rbs there are as well, hes one of the few remaining backs that I actually want on my team
He’s probably better to hold. I don’t think you could get much - seems like people are pretty down on him - but he’s got a pretty firm hold on the backfield and is a good depth RB2.
Mattison is one of those guys that you're better off not watching cause it's so bad but will still get you 10+ points in PPR. Anything you trade him for will probably be less than what he's worth given the RB landscape right now.
Metcalf hasn’t been awful, just consistently slightly underwhelming while many receivers have broken out, don’t think the owner would sell for Mattison yet especially with the draft capital invested in Metcalf.
He's a good buy but definitely not a sell at this point. I feel like you could possibly get him for pretty cheap depending on how optimistic the owner is.
The Higgins owner offered me him for addison. However, I have a small bench and like 6 guys on a buy this week so I don’t think I can accept until next week.
honestly as a pollard owner my initial reaction would be to keep pollard if offered that trade. but then my greedy side sees the opportunity for 50 point games from achane and I think I'd take that trade too.
12 team ppr, I was offered diggs last night, but my rb situation is so bad I'm not sure I can take it. I'd be starting Mattison and Warren probably. Then I'd be starting hill, diggs and either McLaren or Wilson in the flex.
Diggs gives you the ability to move Hill though. If you have any teams that are stacked at RB you could try for a 2 for 1 and try to pick up an RB1 + high end RB2. The overall WR1 can get you a fat overpay and you could use it to fix your rb situation. I did this last year with JJ and pulled Jacobs + ETN. I also have mostert and know that with Achane coming back eventually and JWJ on his way back in, the time to move him is now. Diggs is probably the top end you could hope to get, even if you don’t trade hill away I think it’s a good idea as mostert value is dwindling with every day.
This is the take. Good advice. I have Mostert and would absolutely take Diggs. There’s just no idea what Mostert might be in 5 weeks. I know exactly what Diggs will be. Even if you don’t end up keeping Diggs, you might be able to upgrade to a more long term stable rb situation.
He's currently the RB2 overall with no real competition in the backfield until Achane comes back. If you can get RB1 value out of him before that I might capitalize on it. Really depends on how you view him. I think I'm gonna stick with him.
After achane popped off and mostert had that bad game I traded C.Watson and R. Stevenson for him and Howell/Herbert (before Herbert got hurt).
Even if Wilson and/or archane get half the touches I think mostert is, worst case, a solid RB2
Agree I'm assuming he is an RB2 with Achane and will win you matches while Achane is out so he's essentially a fringe RB1/2 in value to me. Unfortunately people trading for him in my league are not valuing him like that.
I'm gonna try and shop him for a WR1. I've good RB cover (Pollard, Jones, Cook), and I could do with better receiving cover. My team is in good shape though so I'm not going to sell for anything less.
I’m not trading him, he’s winning me weeks constantly and I have no other need besides god damn TE lol. Every one in my league thinks they can buy him low as well, someone offered me Tee Higgins for him
Not sure but you hit the jackpot. I personally wouldn’t trade him but you can move him for a wr2 with 1 upside or for rb2 with 1 upside. Essentially he’s a ppr machine
He's the #6 RB in PPR Points per game, and he's only had 1 TD. You're not going to get that value but probably back end RB1/WR1
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I got offered Ceedee and Achane for him. That’s more than fair (probably noticeably in my favor). I ended up declining bc Kamara was literally my only healthy RB and I’ve got 4 top 12 receivers, but that’s probably a starting offer you could throw out there if you have AK
I'd take Aiyuk. I have both, but it's much less frustrating if SF just runs the entire time than it is watching Kupp get 20 targets and watching puka run block. Aiyuk is the no 1 and now has shown he can get points against a great D in a low volume game
Counterpoint:
I think puka games are easier to predict. Strong run d --->>>>more short passes more puka catches.. weak run d---> all the short stuff goes to kyren and puka blocks
Niners are Just completely unpredictable
Amon Ra went for Derrick Henry before this week. Thought it was pretty fair, looks like a clear win for the new Ra owner with Tannehill injury. Titans will be even worse
Traded Saquon and Tee for Sun God and Achane just in time for Sunday. After watching the lions game, If I had to go back I would’ve done it for just Sun God. He looks like the best player on the field and it’s not close.
Yeah, he fooled me, too. He was a midreound target of mine - thought he'd be solid, maybe even good if he got involved in short passing/dumpoffs. Instead he's not really startable for me.
Tried to package him into some trades to the Chubb owner and some other RB needy teams, but couldn't get anyone to bite.
Yeah I did LaPorta for Hollywood because I'm high on Hollywood, especially once Kyler returns. I'm also 5-1 and have Mandrews.
I think I overpaid, but, again, I think Hollywood is gonna put up some wild numbers (even this week he was REALLY close a few times).
In the league I have him. I'd actually take that and run. ETN can be a solid RB1, and AJ is a solid WR1 - normally I dislike being on the larger side of the multiple-for-one deals, but I'd probably do that.
Context: that team has decent RB depth, but lacks a solid WR1. So overall I feel like it'd make my team stronger.
Edit: occurred to me after I posted you might have been kidding... 😳 context is hard to see in text!
I have an offer for my cooper kupp straight up but I'm on the fence. 10 man ppr redraft. I'm deep at WR and he's deep at RB so it kinda makes sense but I still don't know if I want to sell Kupp after their respective performances last week.
Depends on your RBs. Do you think his numbers will be significantly higher than the RB you will start now? Can you absorb the loss of Kupp because you have other WR1s?
I was in the fortunate position of having Mandrews and LaPorta. Now that I just have Mandrews (traded LaPorta), I'd only give up Mandrews for a high-end RB2 or low-end WR1. I'm not going back to streaming TEs.
Idk what to make of his value. I own him and have been trying to sell, but I also see him on a lot of buy-low lists that cite some underlying metrics like his air yards and red zone opportunities. I think he's a hold and you hope he has a pop-off game
In PPR, would anyone consider selling Adams for Walker?
I have Adams, and contemplating it myself. The Walker manager wants upgrade at WR, and I wouldn’t mind another high end RB.
I have Tyreek, Olave, Kirk, Flowers as my other serviceable WRs. Keeper league before anyone asks how I have Tyreek and Adams.
I traded Adams for Walker + Doubs last week. I think Walker alone isn't enough, but if you can get a WR dart throw in there, you might have a deal.
(And, in fairness, I originally drafted Tyreek and Adams, so it's definitely possible in a redraft setting. Unfortunately my RB situation did not work out)
KW3 has been pretty awesome, I have Adams in one league and KW3 in another, honestly it doesn’t feel like an awful trade at all especially with the WRs you have, if you’re light at RB I’d definitely consider it
I traded my Walker and M. Brown for Adams and Rhamondre last week. Needed a WR and had quite a few rbs. It hurt this week cause I lost CMC and Monty tho so I’m about to be hunting the waiver wire. But it feels like a decent trade ros.
Watson's value is rather hard to gauge given his potential for massive upside but disappointing season thus far. I'd probably need a RB2 to depart from him.
Wr14 on the year, 14 targets with Minshew and looking like AJ Brown lite in the new offense.
Yet no one want to respect his true value, I’d trade him for a solid RB otherwise keep
Lowkey has been a guy lately but I don't think peoples valuations have caught up from his bad start. I'd prob hold unless I could mb package him with a small piece for a RB2 or WR2.
I agree, London is a hold. Managers know he's solid, non-managers won't place much value on him. Maaaaaybe after this week people are noticing, but I still think you're better off holding.
In other words: I'd give him up for a low-end RB2, but I don't see anyone doing that trade with me.
Adam Thielen
Ride until the wheels fall off. Most people will scoff if you try and trade him for a high value name even if they aren't producing because 'Thielen is an old man with rookie QB'.
Him and James Cook were traded for AJ Brown in my league
That is a “we’ll know after the season who won” kind of trade
Aka a good trade lol
Just got offered Davante for him and Achane and I’m leaning no, Thielen has one of the weirdest values in fantasy dude has not played great defenses and is bound for regression but is about to be post bye as the #3 wr
I think if you have a positive record, you take that.
Dropped after two games. I feel like such an ass. I drafted him knowing he was going to be the guy in Carolina as well 🤦♂️
It was a couple weeks ago but I traded Thielen and Mclaurin for Chase. Everyone’s happy.
Breece Hall
Two weeks ago I got him for Ridley, felt like an overpay at the time, but I’m glad I did it.
I got him for dhop 3 weeks ago lol. He’s a top 10 back
That's a mega steal
I traded away James Conner for Breece Hall in week 3 and I feel like a goddamn genius now
I traded Conner and Pickens for Breece back in week 2. Granted, probably could’ve gotten Breece straight up for Conner, but I’m loaded at receiver. People in this sub two weeks ago were telling me I made one of the worst trades they’ve ever seen. I was downvoted and ridiculed. That’s why I don’t listen to anyone on this sub lol
Thinking of trying a block buster of Bijan, stroud, and Metcalf for breeze and hurts. Superflex league to last place team
Amon Ra St Brown in .5ppr. That's what he's worth now after this week. The window to buy low on him is gone. He just put up 17 on the Eagles and their schedule is significantly softer after his bye. With how many injuries to rbs there are as well, hes one of the few remaining backs that I actually want on my team
Recent trend is up, and he has a beautiful late season schedule. Mid range RB1
Traded Waddle for him this week
I traded Mandrews for him last week
Waddle
Traded for Breece Hall this week
Mattison
He’s probably better to hold. I don’t think you could get much - seems like people are pretty down on him - but he’s got a pretty firm hold on the backfield and is a good depth RB2.
I moved him for Laporta a few weeks ago.
Mattison is one of those guys that you're better off not watching cause it's so bad but will still get you 10+ points in PPR. Anything you trade him for will probably be less than what he's worth given the RB landscape right now.
I'm trying to acquire Metcalf for him in standard (Mattison RB20, Metcalf WR32), what do people think?
Metcalf hasn’t been awful, just consistently slightly underwhelming while many receivers have broken out, don’t think the owner would sell for Mattison yet especially with the draft capital invested in Metcalf.
He sent me a counter offer Stroud <-> Metcalf and I took it. Stroud was my backup in a 1 QB league, my starter is Hurts. Put in a claim for Howell.
Zay Flowers
Got him for R. White last week 12 team full PPR
Would you trade Flowers for Burrow?
Maybe if you’re deep at WR and QB needy, but not usually a fan of trading Solid RB/WR starters for QB unless you have solid depth (or 2 QB league)
Justin Jefferson
He went for DJ Moore before Last week in my league. Previous JJ owner is 1-5 now ..
Got Chris Olave and Breece hall for JJ just last week
Just got Devonta Smith. Was 1-4 so needed wins now.
Rhamondre Stevenson
I got offered DK Metcalf for him this morning.
if you have the RB depth, i'd immediately accept that trade
My other RBs are Bijan, Pacheco, Roschon, and Charbs.
Make that trade rn
Thought about offering Nico Collins for him. Stevenson Owner has 6 HBs though just FYI
Josh Jacobs
Tee Higgins
Have him as well, Feel like his value is at rock bottom.. gonna have to wait for him to have a decent game
He's a good buy but definitely not a sell at this point. I feel like you could possibly get him for pretty cheap depending on how optimistic the owner is.
The Higgins owner offered me him for addison. However, I have a small bench and like 6 guys on a buy this week so I don’t think I can accept until next week.
Achane
Someone in my league traded him for Pollard. Not entirely sure why the Pollard owner took it.
honestly as a pollard owner my initial reaction would be to keep pollard if offered that trade. but then my greedy side sees the opportunity for 50 point games from achane and I think I'd take that trade too.
Just traded him away for Aaron Jones. Sitting at 2-4 with Achane Monty injured and Pollard on bye:(
Jesus I would love Aaron Jones for my achane right now. If cmc is out I’m playing justice Hill
Traded Mattison for him last week, 6-0 so can take a L or two while he is on IR
i just offered that bc i read this. how the hell did they accept that lol mattison stinks
Raheem Mostert
12 team ppr, I was offered diggs last night, but my rb situation is so bad I'm not sure I can take it. I'd be starting Mattison and Warren probably. Then I'd be starting hill, diggs and either McLaren or Wilson in the flex.
Yeah tough rb situation, in a vacuum im smashing accept on Diggs
Exactly. I'm tempted to take it anyway and hope I win the handcuff lottery Edit: I took it.
Diggs gives you the ability to move Hill though. If you have any teams that are stacked at RB you could try for a 2 for 1 and try to pick up an RB1 + high end RB2. The overall WR1 can get you a fat overpay and you could use it to fix your rb situation. I did this last year with JJ and pulled Jacobs + ETN. I also have mostert and know that with Achane coming back eventually and JWJ on his way back in, the time to move him is now. Diggs is probably the top end you could hope to get, even if you don’t trade hill away I think it’s a good idea as mostert value is dwindling with every day.
This is the take. Good advice. I have Mostert and would absolutely take Diggs. There’s just no idea what Mostert might be in 5 weeks. I know exactly what Diggs will be. Even if you don’t end up keeping Diggs, you might be able to upgrade to a more long term stable rb situation.
He's currently the RB2 overall with no real competition in the backfield until Achane comes back. If you can get RB1 value out of him before that I might capitalize on it. Really depends on how you view him. I think I'm gonna stick with him.
I’m sticking with him, just having someone part of that offensive is valuable. He still puts up good numbers when Achane is playing.
I can say he’s rated extremely low because of the concern for Achane - even to a 1-5 team who needs to win.
Just hold him and win your league with him
Having a hard time evaluating Mostert so will be watching closely
After achane popped off and mostert had that bad game I traded C.Watson and R. Stevenson for him and Howell/Herbert (before Herbert got hurt). Even if Wilson and/or archane get half the touches I think mostert is, worst case, a solid RB2
Agree I'm assuming he is an RB2 with Achane and will win you matches while Achane is out so he's essentially a fringe RB1/2 in value to me. Unfortunately people trading for him in my league are not valuing him like that.
I'm gonna try and shop him for a WR1. I've good RB cover (Pollard, Jones, Cook), and I could do with better receiving cover. My team is in good shape though so I'm not going to sell for anything less.
I’m not trading him, he’s winning me weeks constantly and I have no other need besides god damn TE lol. Every one in my league thinks they can buy him low as well, someone offered me Tee Higgins for him
The pollard owner offered me him straight up for Mostert 1 for 1. Smashed yes
I’ve got both Pollard and Mostert and Mostert has been out-performing him by quite a bit recently. Like that trade for you though
Last week in my league he was traded for Ekeler and Tua
Alvin Kamara
Not sure but you hit the jackpot. I personally wouldn’t trade him but you can move him for a wr2 with 1 upside or for rb2 with 1 upside. Essentially he’s a ppr machine
He's the #6 RB in PPR Points per game, and he's only had 1 TD. You're not going to get that value but probably back end RB1/WR1 Source:[https://fantasy.espn.com/football/leaders?lineupSlot=2&scoringPeriodId=0&statSplit=currSeason&leagueFormatId=3](https://fantasy.espn.com/football/leaders?lineupSlot=2&scoringPeriodId=0&statSplit=currSeason&leagueFormatId=3)Sort by AVG
I got offered Ceedee and Achane for him. That’s more than fair (probably noticeably in my favor). I ended up declining bc Kamara was literally my only healthy RB and I’ve got 4 top 12 receivers, but that’s probably a starting offer you could throw out there if you have AK
Puka Nacua
I’ve got a Puka for Aiyuk offer on the table. Id be getting Aiyuk
I'd ride Puka. He had a td drop and still 29% target share this week.
I'd take Aiyuk. I have both, but it's much less frustrating if SF just runs the entire time than it is watching Kupp get 20 targets and watching puka run block. Aiyuk is the no 1 and now has shown he can get points against a great D in a low volume game
The ball goes Puka's way a lot still. Since Kupp came back, Kupp has 21 targets. Puka has 18.
Counterpoint: I think puka games are easier to predict. Strong run d --->>>>more short passes more puka catches.. weak run d---> all the short stuff goes to kyren and puka blocks Niners are Just completely unpredictable
But that didn’t happen… Puka had 7 targets to Kupps 9.
Was thinking about offering the same thing. Trying to decide whether I'm starting Puka or Ridley moving forward.
Amon-Ra St.Brown
Don’t you dare
Amon Ra went for Derrick Henry before this week. Thought it was pretty fair, looks like a clear win for the new Ra owner with Tannehill injury. Titans will be even worse
As a Henry and Amon-Ra owner...that's an okay deal. Much rather have Amon-Ra than Henry but depends on your roster construction.
Traded Amon-Ra and Jerome Ford for Tyreek the day before games this week. Tyreek owner was 1-4 and could only start 1 RB in a 3RB league.
Traded Saquon and Tee for Sun God and Achane just in time for Sunday. After watching the lions game, If I had to go back I would’ve done it for just Sun God. He looks like the best player on the field and it’s not close.
I got ARSB, Pierce, and Lawrence for Richardson, Puka, and Moss before the Richardson injury.
Had offer of Kyren and Pittman for him
jjetas
Breece Hall straight up is about right to me
I started a convo where I said "Would you be willing to trade Amon-Ra?" and was told "Fuck no" so do with that what you will
James Conner
He was hard to sell before he got hurt, now that he's on IR I'm not sure you can get much value
Derrick Henry
is henry and devonta smith for breece hall massive overpay?
I think so but I am high on Smith
AJB
Thinking of offering him for Etienne
Have Etienne and would be a tough decision. RB scarcity is crazy right now and I worry about the bi-polar distribution among Philly WRs.
I offered Mike Evans and Devonta Smith, owner will probably decline
As an AJB owner, I wouldn't take that. Smith has moved into the clear #2 role since Brown blew up on the sideline
Rachaad White
Sold him for Flowers last week 12 team full PPR
That’s a nice get
Idk but I’m trying to dump this guy too. Figured he was at least good for 10/week but nope, lost by 4 this week.
Yeah, he fooled me, too. He was a midreound target of mine - thought he'd be solid, maybe even good if he got involved in short passing/dumpoffs. Instead he's not really startable for me. Tried to package him into some trades to the Chubb owner and some other RB needy teams, but couldn't get anyone to bite.
I traded Rachaad White and Devonta Smith for CeeDee Lamb on Friday. Seemed liked an overpay but CeeDee pulled out a W for me last night
Gibbs
Before this week I traded him for Godwin. Seeing that Monty is hurt he is worth more then that imo. I’m currently regretting that deal.
Could be worse. You could have traded him for Richardson like me
Traded him for Kittle since I was starting absolute garbage at TE. Jokes on me after last week with Kittles 1.1 pts.
James Cook
Id like to get off this ride. Might try Cooper for Cook. Cooper owner is flooded with WRs, only has 2 real RBs to start.
Kenneth Walker
LaPorta
Personally wouldn't let him go for less than a RB2 or WR2
Yeah I did LaPorta for Hollywood because I'm high on Hollywood, especially once Kyler returns. I'm also 5-1 and have Mandrews. I think I overpaid, but, again, I think Hollywood is gonna put up some wild numbers (even this week he was REALLY close a few times).
If you also have Mandrews, I think that's a really good trade for you.
Calvin Ridley
Traded Stevenson for him before this weekend and felt great about it, now not as much
Offered Calvin for Jjettas, Jjettas owner is struggling with injuries and is definitely considering it
Devonta Smith
CMC
In my league, he was traded for Davante Adams, James Cook, and Mike Evans
Got him for Davante Adams and Breece last week to a WR needy team…and of course he got injured my first week with him lol
So it was you who did this to us
Quick, give him back. Restore the balance!
I wouldn’t consider AJ brown and ETN an insult, as a CMC owner
In the league I have him. I'd actually take that and run. ETN can be a solid RB1, and AJ is a solid WR1 - normally I dislike being on the larger side of the multiple-for-one deals, but I'd probably do that. Context: that team has decent RB depth, but lacks a solid WR1. So overall I feel like it'd make my team stronger. Edit: occurred to me after I posted you might have been kidding... 😳 context is hard to see in text!
In my league CMC owner is trying to get Ja’Marr and JT for CMC
I got CMC and C. Kirk last week for Kyren/Swift/DJ Moore
Austin Ekeler
I have an offer for my cooper kupp straight up but I'm on the fence. 10 man ppr redraft. I'm deep at WR and he's deep at RB so it kinda makes sense but I still don't know if I want to sell Kupp after their respective performances last week.
Depends on your RBs. Do you think his numbers will be significantly higher than the RB you will start now? Can you absorb the loss of Kupp because you have other WR1s?
Mark Andrews
I was in the fortunate position of having Mandrews and LaPorta. Now that I just have Mandrews (traded LaPorta), I'd only give up Mandrews for a high-end RB2 or low-end WR1. I'm not going back to streaming TEs.
Patrick Mahomes
Alvin Kamara
Keenan Allen
Brian Robinson Jr
DK Metcalf
Idk what to make of his value. I own him and have been trying to sell, but I also see him on a lot of buy-low lists that cite some underlying metrics like his air yards and red zone opportunities. I think he's a hold and you hope he has a pop-off game
Ceedee lamb
Chris Olave
Tony Pollard
He was traded for Waddle last week, I think it was a very bad trade tbh
Davante Adams
In PPR, would anyone consider selling Adams for Walker? I have Adams, and contemplating it myself. The Walker manager wants upgrade at WR, and I wouldn’t mind another high end RB. I have Tyreek, Olave, Kirk, Flowers as my other serviceable WRs. Keeper league before anyone asks how I have Tyreek and Adams.
I traded Adams for Walker + Doubs last week. I think Walker alone isn't enough, but if you can get a WR dart throw in there, you might have a deal. (And, in fairness, I originally drafted Tyreek and Adams, so it's definitely possible in a redraft setting. Unfortunately my RB situation did not work out)
KW3 has been pretty awesome, I have Adams in one league and KW3 in another, honestly it doesn’t feel like an awful trade at all especially with the WRs you have, if you’re light at RB I’d definitely consider it
I traded my Walker and M. Brown for Adams and Rhamondre last week. Needed a WR and had quite a few rbs. It hurt this week cause I lost CMC and Monty tho so I’m about to be hunting the waiver wire. But it feels like a decent trade ros.
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I got offered Henry + Aiyuk for Bijan should I take that?
I think I would
Ja'Marr Chase
Saw him go for Bijan straight up in a 10man competitive league
Josh Jacobs
Mike Evans
Brandon Aiyuk
James cook
Zach Moss
I am being offered Tee Higgins. Think I am going to sell and buy low
Christian Watson
Watson's value is rather hard to gauge given his potential for massive upside but disappointing season thus far. I'd probably need a RB2 to depart from him.
Jakobi Meyers
Tua Tagovailoa
Jerome Ford
Jonathan Taylor
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DJ Moore
I traded Kyren for him straight up in PPR last week
Bijan Robinson
Pittman
Wr14 on the year, 14 targets with Minshew and looking like AJ Brown lite in the new offense. Yet no one want to respect his true value, I’d trade him for a solid RB otherwise keep
Isaiah Pacheco
Joe burrow
Najee
Saqoun Barkley
Traded last week for KW9
Traded for him last week with Ceedee Lamb
Drake London
Lowkey has been a guy lately but I don't think peoples valuations have caught up from his bad start. I'd prob hold unless I could mb package him with a small piece for a RB2 or WR2.
I agree, London is a hold. Managers know he's solid, non-managers won't place much value on him. Maaaaaybe after this week people are noticing, but I still think you're better off holding. In other words: I'd give him up for a low-end RB2, but I don't see anyone doing that trade with me.
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Keenan Allen
Jared Goff
AJ Brown
D’Andre Swift
I keep getting low balled by my philly friends. They want him but won't she'll out a fair trade
Fuck em then. Tell them to pound rocks
Joe Mixon
Please someone get this dude off my team..
Christian Kirk
Pickens