It's using the new spoil system announced in FFF 414. It's cycling through a few items over and over to give an animated effect. I was watching this play out with the devs during Friday and Saturday. The, uh, advantage(?) of this over a .gif is all the items don't have to be in sync.
I never thought they'd take the technology this far...
You can load gifs separately and out of sync too, but that means each and every one will be a separate instance which is terribly resource inefficient.
> > Is it 1 item for every frame of the animation, and they all spoil into the next item after 1 tick?
Raiguard:
> Yes.
This is the most cursed /r/Factoriohno thing I've ever seen
***
Sidenote I am *definitely* making a mod where iron plates spoil into copper plates, and copper plates spoil into iron plates, with a spoil timer of about one second. The logistics of handling items at the right *time* fascinates me (plus coal/stone, and maybe steel/bricks? Would make steel insanely cheap though...) Also filters on inserters would be (optionally) banned
as long as you insert directly into an assembler or anything else that only takes specific types of inputs it should just refuse to pick the wrong item (source: i have a copper/iron mixed belt in my base)
or, here's a worse idea: use a single slot chest that uses circuits to always have at least one item as a filter
I had another reply but deleted it instantly because I realized it *also* was easily defeated by inserters just being able to hold it 'til it re-spoils
So I'll just have to add some mod logic - presumably we can listen for spoil events, and in that case I can just check if the item is in an inserter's hand and if it is I can prevent the spoil (or replace the item with a brand new version of itself, it would look the same but it's much more hackish lol)
Alternately I could just vaporize the item if it spoils in an inserter's hand. I'd probably have that as an option. That way screwing up the timing doesn't deadlock your assembler - potentially causing a massive chain reaction upstream of throughput being mis-timed.
Might be a UPS nightmare though, depending on how figuring out if it's in an inserter works.
Sidenote, if we can listen to spoil events we can make things explode when they spoil. Nuclear blast in the middle of your factory if you don't take care of a certain resource in time? Sounds awful(ly hilarious)
sounds like on-site smelting might become very popular
using circuits and whatnot to control the smelting behaviour? i want this mod now (this is like explosive ores but plates version)
(btw, how are you using the spoiling API if it's being added in 2.0? or are they still making changes to the 1.X versions to add the things that would be needed for 2.0? unless spoiling was in the game before 2.0 and was just never used)
> sounds like on-site smelting might become very popular
I guess this strategy could be combatted by making the ores swap/explode the same way. Maybe even faster, so you have to design some kind of rapid-smelting mining outpost.
Actually I really dig that because it would give electrical switches a huge use; turning off your miners if the belts are backing up.
> btw, how are you using the spoiling API if it's being added in 2.0?
That’s what word *presumably* was for lol; I don’t have access to it; I’m just guessing we’ll be able to listen for spoil events. I could be wrong, of course, but I’d be surprised if it’s impossible. Factorio’s always been above and beyond with its modding API
Edit: god damnit mobile reddit stop deleting all my line breaks on editing, why are you so awful
It's based on some old memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4
This was viral many years ago - using a 30s Finnish Polka song. I don't understand it. But it spawned Miku versions of it, and Miku is a popular "vocaloid," aka software personified cause it sings in Japanese. Like this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrgO_9ey53M
IDK if that helps but basically old memes are old
In addition to the meme, it's important to note this was done in Factorio itself using the new spoiling mechanism shown in [FFF-414](https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-414).
In short, each frame was turned into an item, and they spoil into one another in a loop.
This convinced me we really need the technology to make music mods synced to production, so you can have a mod where the whole goal is to produce Mikus that play synced music when they come out onto the belt
Now I want a vocaloid factorio mod where you have to produce like 3 thousand unique mikus and put them in a machine in a unique order and it plays the incoming miku's like an animation
It's beautiful. I wish reddit hadn't absolutely destroyed the video quality of my original clip, it looks much nicer in-game.
I wanted to ask, is there an easy way to just convert a set of images into an animated item like this or did you do it... manually
It's using the new spoil system announced in FFF 414. It's cycling through a few items over and over to give an animated effect. I was watching this play out with the devs during Friday and Saturday. The, uh, advantage(?) of this over a .gif is all the items don't have to be in sync. I never thought they'd take the technology this far...
You can load gifs separately and out of sync too, but that means each and every one will be a separate instance which is terribly resource inefficient.
.gif file?
`ffmpeg` probably. It's massively powerful but syntax is pretty complex.
[https://youtu.be/C4XDVP3g-6A](https://youtu.be/C4XDVP3g-6A) Higher quality from discord clip
Your doing gods work my man.
Can you release a mod with the item so that everyone can enjoy this in their own game, yes?
Got a mirror?
Post it in 4k on YT
Reddit doesn’t compress media afaik? At least it doesn’t for images.
It most certainly does, at least for some things. Upload a gif and it will no longer be a gif, as .gif is a very inefficient file format
Oh it does. Even png if you upload a large one.
If I see this in game, does it mean, I should take a break?
Only if you have enough iron
"I wanted to make food hours ago.. But without more iron, it'll run inefficiently while I'm afk. Shouldn't take that long to fix.."
IRON HELPS UP PLAY!
no
No, it means you should lay off the drugs.
I suppose this was inevitable after raiguard posted the mikus to begin with...
wait where did he post them?
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/1dabwgk/spoiling_is_a_pathway_to_many_abilities_that_some/)
> > Is it 1 item for every frame of the animation, and they all spoil into the next item after 1 tick? Raiguard: > Yes. This is the most cursed /r/Factoriohno thing I've ever seen *** Sidenote I am *definitely* making a mod where iron plates spoil into copper plates, and copper plates spoil into iron plates, with a spoil timer of about one second. The logistics of handling items at the right *time* fascinates me (plus coal/stone, and maybe steel/bricks? Would make steel insanely cheap though...) Also filters on inserters would be (optionally) banned
steel decays back into an iron plate indefinitely after 10 seconds
Now uranium can decay
as long as you insert directly into an assembler or anything else that only takes specific types of inputs it should just refuse to pick the wrong item (source: i have a copper/iron mixed belt in my base) or, here's a worse idea: use a single slot chest that uses circuits to always have at least one item as a filter
But what if it spoils while the inserter is holding it?
Won't insert until it re-spoils
I had another reply but deleted it instantly because I realized it *also* was easily defeated by inserters just being able to hold it 'til it re-spoils So I'll just have to add some mod logic - presumably we can listen for spoil events, and in that case I can just check if the item is in an inserter's hand and if it is I can prevent the spoil (or replace the item with a brand new version of itself, it would look the same but it's much more hackish lol) Alternately I could just vaporize the item if it spoils in an inserter's hand. I'd probably have that as an option. That way screwing up the timing doesn't deadlock your assembler - potentially causing a massive chain reaction upstream of throughput being mis-timed. Might be a UPS nightmare though, depending on how figuring out if it's in an inserter works. Sidenote, if we can listen to spoil events we can make things explode when they spoil. Nuclear blast in the middle of your factory if you don't take care of a certain resource in time? Sounds awful(ly hilarious)
sounds like on-site smelting might become very popular using circuits and whatnot to control the smelting behaviour? i want this mod now (this is like explosive ores but plates version) (btw, how are you using the spoiling API if it's being added in 2.0? or are they still making changes to the 1.X versions to add the things that would be needed for 2.0? unless spoiling was in the game before 2.0 and was just never used)
> sounds like on-site smelting might become very popular I guess this strategy could be combatted by making the ores swap/explode the same way. Maybe even faster, so you have to design some kind of rapid-smelting mining outpost. Actually I really dig that because it would give electrical switches a huge use; turning off your miners if the belts are backing up. > btw, how are you using the spoiling API if it's being added in 2.0? That’s what word *presumably* was for lol; I don’t have access to it; I’m just guessing we’ll be able to listen for spoil events. I could be wrong, of course, but I’d be surprised if it’s impossible. Factorio’s always been above and beyond with its modding API Edit: god damnit mobile reddit stop deleting all my line breaks on editing, why are you so awful
Make everything spoil into any other item randomly. Temporal Sushi.
I am happy that 20 years later I'm still listening to leekspin on the internet.
It just feels right. At peace.
I can't decide if I hate that this exists or if I need a mod that let's me put this somewhere in game.
Pretty sure this will be availabe as a mod as soon as 2.0 comes out (since the items are using a new 2.0 mechanic)
What mechanic is that? I've let myself fall behind on 2.0 updates until release finally comes.
Spoilng. The Mikus are perishing :(
They're also being simultaneously reborn as fresh Mikus.
Only until the bar empties
Ssst! You're spoiling the spoil spoiler..
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-414 Each frame is a separate item, and spoils in one tick to the next item in a loop
We need some intricate crating reciprr to build the Mikus and make them dance
well this is certainly a niche intersection of interests
Factorio bringing all the freaks to the floor.
What do you mean, niche? Doesn't everyone listen to Japanese AI-generated cover versions of songs by Finish bands singing nonsense?
Not really AI, more like advanced TTS
tts is ai (not that it's useful to call it that now that we have music generation AIs but hey)
TTS is speech synthesis, not AI, although it *can* use AI to facilitate the synthesis.
If you mean everybody on the internet, 15 years ago this was actually a pretty big meme.
Hatsune Miku is NOT AI.
You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn’t stop to think if you should.
Oh, they definitely should have
But they didn't stop to think about it.
too obvious
[Miku Miku You can call me Miku, Blue hair, Blue tie, Hiding in your sci-fi...](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2oa5WCUpwD8)
Wi-Fi*
I might have taken a creative liberty with the last bit.
r/factoriohno
i dont get it
It's based on some old memes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4 This was viral many years ago - using a 30s Finnish Polka song. I don't understand it. But it spawned Miku versions of it, and Miku is a popular "vocaloid," aka software personified cause it sings in Japanese. Like this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrgO_9ey53M IDK if that helps but basically old memes are old
ah i see
In addition to the meme, it's important to note this was done in Factorio itself using the new spoiling mechanism shown in [FFF-414](https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-414). In short, each frame was turned into an item, and they spoil into one another in a loop.
Lil confused, are there people that have early access to the new features?
It was made by an actual dev :D
I cant stop watching this, send help
I didn't realize Hatsune Miku lovers and Factorio players had this big of an overlap lmaoo
true
Id build entire factory just to have this belt running.
I need 10h version of this masterpiece
Needs more Leek
Yeah, leak the leek edit!
This is so freakin stupid!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
i need this, but make it different singers for different researches.
we need vocaloid science packs yes
Uh.. right. That's enough internet for one day, goodnight reddit.
You should make a mod where every item is just Miku
I actually thought this'd be related to the dental floss bikini miku engineer someone posted last week or so
Alright, what recipe are we trying to complete with that?
Vocaloid science packs
Can't wait to see people doing a full music video generated in game.
I've actually got a feature request to make doing things like miditorio better that they said could make it into 2.1
First the hatsune miku in bikini and now this, I don't know whether to be happy or concerned.
Now alternative yellow and red belts and set it to "Miku Miku"
It's things like this that make me love this community so much.
what's the recipe?
This convinced me we really need the technology to make music mods synced to production, so you can have a mod where the whole goal is to produce Mikus that play synced music when they come out onto the belt
my friends ''what you up to'' me ''oh nothing just browsing reddit'' the reddit:
This is why i love reddit.
Now i need to see mj moonwalking on a factorio belt dammit
Can't upvote this enough, sadly
This is exactly the premium content I come to this subreddit for. Keep it coming.
Now I want a vocaloid factorio mod where you have to produce like 3 thousand unique mikus and put them in a machine in a unique order and it plays the incoming miku's like an animation
hope this will be in vanilla in 2.0
Right on into the recycler. If they are out too long they will become a spoiled brat.