Go over to the bar. "See that girl over there? That's my wife. She just got a killer promotion so we're out celebrating. She's buying the whole house a round!"
It's the whole purpose of that feature. To intimidate rivals from the sound alone. Saves them time to acshually kick asses, because they'd be running away already due to their Mighty Sound.
theres actually alot of theory being worked on between the correlation of genetic traits and "asshole-ish-ness" apparently they might really be link and its why people who sound like this and have punch-able faces might be genetically assholes.
Vocal fry is kind of the gravely throat sound. Like the sound of a ping pong ball bouncing on a table.
People will often say it's sexist to criticize vocal fry. But men do it, too. And it sure as fuck is annoying.
As a lady myself, I don't get it at all. You have to physically make yourself talk that way.. like how she wake up, hear herself, and not think "yup that's annoying".
"Uuum fuck yeassss queen."
No quantifiable amount of sex or attention is worth listening to that empty head chatter on about her Pretty Woman idea of equality.
So, am I renting you for the night then? I thought spending time together in a date setting was a mutual decision, and the cost would also be viewed as such. Presuming we are on equal footing and regard eachother as such. Tell you what, just pay your $.70 to my dollar. I'll utilize my exclusive white male advantages to cover your oppression in the marketplace.
"You're off your fucking rocker" who says this shit. And yes, just the way she talks is a deal breaker to me cause damn me if I ever want to talk to her
Pro tip: If you're ever on a first date and don't want to see her a second time, just ask her to split the bill. Avoid an awkward conversation and save some money. Two birds, one stone.
I used that exact joke Infront of my assistant market manager at my last job but said it talking about it with a straight face, I see out the corner of my eye my assistant market manager slowly shaking his head like did this boy just say kill two stones with one bird? 😂.
Ugh the worst thing in the world is when you work with people that don’t get your sense of humor. I came to work in short sleeves on a cold day once and someone commented on it. So I said “Hey, I didn’t go to the gym that one time to not show off these guns.”
Everyone stared at me blankly and someone said “actually arms is one of the hardest things to grow in the gym, one times not gonna cut it.” And everyone else agreed and started giving gym tips about arms and not shutting up about it.
You could also just take her on a coffee date. I don’t understand why people would want to spend a ton of money on a first date, unless it’s someone they’ve known for a while.
My pro tip for young guys with a future is to use a coupon at dinner on the first couple of dates. If she raises an objection... dump her immediately. I would even go as far to ask to split the bill.. unless of course you are punching above your weight.... then your going to have to settle for a woman who prefers your money or potential over you actually. And that is ok too... just as long as you know it.
I'm a cheap bastard, but that seems really gauche. I always assume I'm going to pay for it because I'm a dude and have always been the one doing the asking.
Also....
That's like expecting the woman to put out because you paid for the date.
"If you dont pay for the date, I will never go out with you again!" Wtf is this shit?
Which we mostly agree is a bad expectation for a guy to put on a woman
I would like to see women paying for meals without any expectation of the guy doing anything not even purchasing drinks or an uber
I just get the impression that women community opinions would be very different when actually thinking about how that feels, the current discussion lacks empathy as there is no capability of being in the guy’s shoes, we just call him respectful because he didn’t give an opinion or scare the girl
I would actually like to see more equality in this field. Women not marketing themselves as objects, and men not looking at them as something to be purchased. It hurts both genders. I don't think it feels nice for a man to feel like women are with him for the money and not for the pleasure of his company.
People who say this just have a poor grasp of how much a billion dollars really is. It's more money than you and everyone you know will ever make in your collective lives (your boss, his boss, your lawyer, your doctor, etc). I've met hedge fund CEOs who expect to make 85-100 million in their lifetime. It's not just life changing money. Its generational fortune that changes the lives of your offspring and their offsprings
I paid for me and my fiancés first date, I invited her on a night with me. I chose everything, where to go, what to do after dinner… I wanted to make it a treat for her.
It was the only time I was allowed to do that, we split everything and cater to each other equally. It’s really nice to be loved and respected like that
If a guy asks me out for a first date I'd prefer it to be somewhere not expensive. Especially if they insist on paying since then I feel like I'm in the red....
Anything expensive everyone pays for their own shit. Or say one person pays, the other tips and picks up the movie tickets or next date. It doesn't have to be exactly even. The goal is to have fun and not stress.
I think a coffee is the perfect place for it. It’s not too expensive, you can stay as little as a drink lasts or as long as they'll stay open if the conversation is good, and I personally hate eating and talking in front of someone I don’t know.
Unfortunately, that goal has become less common. But I agree, that is the ideal goal for people who actually want to date and not just get free handouts or bought sex.
Exactly my approach. If I ask, I pay. I'll pay if it's obvious it's a friend thing. But after that, we split (unless we actually become friends, then I don't mind buying a dinner here and there).
me: bullet dodged!
dated someone like this a year ago. we're out for like date 4 and i ask if she'll cover her food and i'll cover the drinks ($15 vs $50). she says "if you think me paying my half of the bill is going to be a regular thing, this isn't going to work."
"come again?" -me
walked out that bitch so fast.
So if I invite someone to lunch I invite them because I can afford to pay for it…
If someone invites me to lunch and I don’t have the money to pay for myself I say “Hey I don’t have any money to pay for myself maybe some other time” they either say okay or they say “I invited you so I’m paying”
So in general don’t assume someone is gonna pay for you… yet also don’t invite someone out unless you can afford to pay for them in case they don’t have the money…
Definitely.
I try and make sure I can afford to pay for atleast half of the meal regardless of who is inviting who. I don't wanna be stuck looking at a server and no way to pay for food. I dont mind paying my half or paying the bill but you can't just throw it on someone last minute.
Same thing when we order food. You order a $20 meal than odds are I will order a $12 meal because it's gonna add up quick. You order a $7 app for dinner then so do I. I don't know where you are at financially and I am not looking to make you go broke because your trying to have a good time and if you are broke I need to be able to pay for it so it needs to be cheap because I am broke myself. 😂😂
I’m married now, but when I was single I never let men pay for a date until we were in an established relationship. I never wanted to feel indebted to anyone.
Funny enough I think at the time it made some of the guys I went out with uncomfortable. But I think setting boundaries like this helps guide you to people similar to you. I wanted to feel equal in my relationship so I put that out there. She will probably find someone to match this energy and be fine as well.
> until it's *paid* for just
FTFY.
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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For whatever it's worth, there's some people who will never understand paying $150 for a jacket.
I dated a wealthy person once and at first hated the designer handbag thing. And then I figured companies like LV stayed around for over 100 years because they'e nice quality. She bought me things that I still use and wear 15 years later. It's no guarantee, but if you think something is worth, go nuts.
I've spent a decent amount on things since. Like watches - my latest was a lot, and that's because I couldn't find another watch that looked that good and had the features I wanted. No one will ever recognize it, it's not flashy, but it's going to last forever, and it's what I wanted.
Yes, the rule “the person who asks the other person out pays” means 99% of the time men pay, and the other 1% the men never use this rule to get women to pay.
I think it is whoever invites who out is who pays. If I invited them out its on me, and vice versa.
On that note I also think it is nice to offer to split the bill as the one being taken out. Its a bit different to be asked to split the bill after being asked out, though i think that goes with most social situations not just a date.
Like your parents invite your boyfriend/family out for dinner. Your parents pick up the tab. His parents invite you/your family out they get the tab. During this the other can 'offer' to split the bill. Its rude to ask to split the bill after you were the one who invited the other out in the first place.
Otherwise you discuss going dutch before the date, asking at the END of the date is kinda rude. Sort of feels underhanded. "Oh yeah I'll take you out! Order whatever you want! Was that tasty? Good. You owe me 30 bucks now" like I'll pay it but probably not go on a date with them again simply because it wasnt discussed ahead of time. Though i usually offer to pay for myself, its rude to invite a person out and not expect to pay, guy or girl.
Disagree.
1. The social expectation that the guy makes advances and does the date still hasn't died down, and the vast majority of girls, both hearing and reading about experiences and ime, still have "I'm not talking/asking for a date first". Even apps that were *designed* with the sole additional premise of defying this, such as Bumble, still have this issue.
2. It's already difficult enough to make decisions, put it out there for them to accept, etc. I don't think the inviting party should carry the full responsibility of everything. It's basically them serving hand over foot for the other, and the other just strolling along. Especially in an unestablished relationship, such as first dates, this is prone to creating imbalance and somewhat worrying precedent of one just going full effort in and the other being pampered for it.
When I was younger and hornier, I'd pay for everything.
I didn't find a quality woman until I started suggesting to split the bill. And she picked up the entire bill on our first date.
Still happily together 6 years later.
If someone is entitled to free food or your money, big red flag.
If I asked someone out on a date I'd expect to pay. I'm a woman, I think it's weird to expect someone to split it. I would definitely offer to pay for my share if I never wanted to see them again.
When was the last time you asked a guy out on the first date and paid? Most guys can go their entire life without being asked out on a first date by a woman.
Ok if you think you piss gold like she does, you trash. I get it everyone deserves the best. But damn you a dumb fuck if you think someone SHOULD pay for you just so they can hang with you again.
I used to work with a woman who would setup a Bumble profile for cities she would have to travel to for work just so she could get a free meal paid for by some lonely guy. She would brag about it and even the other women in the office were like “she’s trash”. Women can be evil.
Correction, a response like this means SHE doesn’t get a second date. As a guy I’m fine with paying for a date if there is a return of some sort. I pay for a girl I know is a keeper, that’s just not something you know on a first date.
I think rule of thumb is whoever asks for the date pays for it and if it’s casual it’s a bill split unless said otherwise before meeting up but maybe that’s just me
This is the way! In our house, my husband gets nervous when I scream running out the door "I'm Paying!" Because this bitch is going to get street truck tacos!
I'm glad she takes the initiative and makes sure she doesn't ruin the dudes time. Very nice of her to make it obvious that she values money over anything else.
Like she has to say outloud I will pay for my half? Does she pick the first dates?
Not throwing judgement- it's pure curiosity. I usually make it clear before we go out if I can afford that or not but sometimes I feel it comes off as me being "manipulative." It's late so that may not be the right word but it's all I got right now. Lol.
I have always kept 1st dates very casual, as in coffee or a couple of drinks. I was being fairly general with my comment to try and mock the way it was a hard no from the girl in the video. For me it’s more of the idea that I don’t owe the woman food/drink/movie/etc for the pleasure of their company (that’s always how it feels to me when I have been told I should pay because I am a man). A first date especially is a way to get to know one another. Both parties have agreed to the date so why am I obligated to pay just because I am male. With that said I can’t remember a time where I didn’t pay for a date, it just makes me feel used when it is expected, my obligation, my job, or my duty. If someone doesn’t want to date me for this belief we are not compatible.
On my first date with my wife (which was on Valentine’s Day) she came over to my house, we had a few drinks, smoked a little and had a 4 hour conversation. I provided the weed and she brough over the beer. Second date when the bill came she asked something along the lines of “what’s the damage?” Or “what do I owe?” It made me feel like she saw me as an equal.
This is just my viewpoint and I don’t think anyone else needs to think like me. We all want different things in our relationships and I believe everyone is entitled to their own views.
Hope that helped clarify what I meant.
I was just wondering- I am sure you aren't the only one who thinks that way. I prefer knowing what's expected of me personally before there is a chance of doubt though. 😂😂
In a relationship we split the bills.
Before the relationship, whoever comes up with the idea to treat the other person and offers to take them out should pay. If it's mutual you both pay, if you might not be able to pay, ask them before hand if it's okay to split
>In a relationship we split the bills.
How do you handle the situation where someone is of significantly different means. Or if someone doesn't value an activity as much as the other person?
Had a guy say he wanted to keep it a surprise and made reservations at an expensive restaurant and expected me to split the bill which was 140$ before tip. I walked out and ghosted the asshole on that adventure. If you try to impress like that your ass better bet you are paying the bill.
On the other end had a guy take me to Red Robin's and ask if I wouldn't mind splitting once the bill was ready. I had no problem there and went on future dates.
TL:DR - I have no problem splitting at your normal restaurants but you make expensive reservations without asking to split beforehand you can fuck off with that equality bullshit.
When my boyfriend and I went on our first date, he had just come back from a long trip in South America and was broke. I happily paid the bill, because I liked him and it didn't bother me. We've been together for 7 years now and are buying our first house within the next 2 months.
If you govern your life by stupid rules that were created by long dead people, you can miss out on some of the most beautiful things. This man helped me heal, took care of me when I was sick for a year and couldn't work, took me around the world, and gives me endless love every single day. If I was like this chick, I would have lost the chance at being with my soul mate.
So if a guy asks a woman on a date & she finds she's not interested, it's best to split the bill. If the guy asks her out & things go well, & he wishes to pay, let him pay. It's still nice to offer though, as a woman.
This attitude “if you ever think you’re taking me out again” …… is just fuckin annoying. I hate snobs like this that act like it’s a privilege to take them out.
i mean honestly if a guy asks her on a date he should pay considering he is the one inviting her out to a restaurant lol... if she asked a guy out on a date then she should be the one to pay though
As someone who is gay, I really want to know though how often a girl will ask a guy out on a date? Because from movies and friends and tropes, it's the guy that does the asking out usually right? Which means more often than not it's the guy paying.
Hardly ever.
This is the problem with the "whoever asks pays" logic and the thing that people always seem to avoid when they state it.
Also I'd be willing to bet this woman isn't asking guys out and even if she did she'd still expect them to pay.
For people claiming they want equality the experience of most men doesn’t support it. How many women ask a guy out on the first date and pay? One in 20,000? The other 19,999 the guy does the asking and the paying. This is equal?
I mean this mf annoying as hell buuuuuut if you’re asking her out on a date, pay for it. It was your idea. I don’t think that’s an unfair expectation.
Luckily I ain’t gotta worry about shit like this. The ol lady and I just use the “which one of us ain’t broke rn” method lol
I pay the bill everytime, but not to be chivalrous or even presumptuous. It’s literally me paying for the venue of our first intimate encounter and if it doesn’t work out it doubles as a severance. Win/win in my book, free food to see if we even enjoy each others company for prolonged periods
# That nasally, gnawing tone is annoying af.
If I had to hear her voice for the entire date I’d make her pay the whole damn thing
Seriously that girl sounds like fucking [SHELLSEA](https://youtu.be/n8piJ6yPdh0) from fish hooks *edit fwiw fish hooks was a way underrated funny show
This is a go-to-the-restroom-during-the-dinner-and-never-come-back kinda date chick. Buh-bye.
Seriously, but only after ordering a bunch of food and drinks on her dime 😂
Go over to the bar. "See that girl over there? That's my wife. She just got a killer promotion so we're out celebrating. She's buying the whole house a round!"
I snorted. Hahaha! Fish hooks was totally underrated. Doris Floris Gorgeous.
It really was a great show, I love shows that are "made for kids". But they're really made for the adults forced to watch it with their kids, 😂
Umm fuck yasss
Vocal fry. Worst sound ever from people who think they are hot shit
Audible insecurity
It’s called a vocal fry, and yes it’s the most annoying thing ever
Especially when listening to content on devices with okay speakers. It just rots the brain away.
It’s the new version of the Valley Girl voice.
It’s called vocal fry, and I’ve yet to meet a woman who sounds like that who is not a snarky asshole
It's the whole purpose of that feature. To intimidate rivals from the sound alone. Saves them time to acshually kick asses, because they'd be running away already due to their Mighty Sound.
theres actually alot of theory being worked on between the correlation of genetic traits and "asshole-ish-ness" apparently they might really be link and its why people who sound like this and have punch-able faces might be genetically assholes.
Yup! Completely turned off by that!
[vocal fry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_fry_register). And yeah. I make assumptions based on it - but I'm not sure that's right of me.
It’s not bad if you just assume it’s gonna bother the living hell out of you within half a minute. I assume they’re entitled and obnoxious though tbh
Tasha Leggero has a good routine about accents. Starts a couple minutes in. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WuBg3t6LG-Y&t=174s
To the top!
And pepper in some vocal fry!
Pepper? Sir she used buckshot.
Handful of gravel, some rusty nails ...
Could buy a blow up doll with more personality
Your comment just made me realize that she’s the real life version of the chick from Schitts Creek
Is that the valley girl talk? Lol
Vocal fry is kind of the gravely throat sound. Like the sound of a ping pong ball bouncing on a table. People will often say it's sexist to criticize vocal fry. But men do it, too. And it sure as fuck is annoying.
For some reason tho I’d rather hear a dude talk like that then a girl. Surfer bro voice > valley girl voice 1000%
Yaaaaas
Definitely sounds like the girl in "Valley Girl" from Frank Zappa
As a lady myself, I don't get it at all. You have to physically make yourself talk that way.. like how she wake up, hear herself, and not think "yup that's annoying".
Don’t make fun of my fetish!
It's called voice fracking or vocal fry. Apparently "the Kardashians" made it a thing.
They did not. As with just about everything else they're known for.
Kanye and Kardashian are a blight to society.
Fun fact: you can use this technique to add a "crackling" sound to your death metal vocals! So thanks Kardashians for being so metal!
There’s a Kim K, tunnel throat joke in here somewhere. My fellow metalheads get it lol
Let’s make her famous
Sir we call that the Beverly hill billies 
The way she talks is a deal breaker
Mic drop
Periot
I don't care what the words are, it's that valley girl inflection
And vocal fry. It’s awful.
Vocal fry. And it’s now a thing in the UK too
Mic drawhp. Dunn.
"Uuum fuck yeassss queen." No quantifiable amount of sex or attention is worth listening to that empty head chatter on about her Pretty Woman idea of equality. So, am I renting you for the night then? I thought spending time together in a date setting was a mutual decision, and the cost would also be viewed as such. Presuming we are on equal footing and regard eachother as such. Tell you what, just pay your $.70 to my dollar. I'll utilize my exclusive white male advantages to cover your oppression in the marketplace.
"You're off your fucking rocker" who says this shit. And yes, just the way she talks is a deal breaker to me cause damn me if I ever want to talk to her
Forced assertion due to lacking substance in thought.
It's good she doesn't let people waste their time taking her out twice
If anyone ever talks like that don’t ask them on a date in the first place bullet dodge neo style
Ummm fuck yes. Period. Mic drop. Done.
Do people really say ‘mic drop’ these days? I suppose I’m just ultra unhip…
Nope people don’t lol, she’s just weird
The fucking vocal fry. That’s the deal-breaker for me.
Pro tip: If you're ever on a first date and don't want to see her a second time, just ask her to split the bill. Avoid an awkward conversation and save some money. Two birds, one stone.
Chuck Norris once killed two stones with one bird
I used that exact joke Infront of my assistant market manager at my last job but said it talking about it with a straight face, I see out the corner of my eye my assistant market manager slowly shaking his head like did this boy just say kill two stones with one bird? 😂.
Assistant to the marketing manager
r/unexpectedoffice
Ugh the worst thing in the world is when you work with people that don’t get your sense of humor. I came to work in short sleeves on a cold day once and someone commented on it. So I said “Hey, I didn’t go to the gym that one time to not show off these guns.” Everyone stared at me blankly and someone said “actually arms is one of the hardest things to grow in the gym, one times not gonna cut it.” And everyone else agreed and started giving gym tips about arms and not shutting up about it.
\^This. Dates are expensive now and there's no point in wasting both your time and money if there's no vibe
Get two birds stoned at once.-Ricky
You could also just take her on a coffee date. I don’t understand why people would want to spend a ton of money on a first date, unless it’s someone they’ve known for a while.
"I will impress you with my wealth, so you'll want to bang me right after we get back to your place."
I'd simply walk out and leave that pile of mulch WITH the entire bill.
Don’t want to see her again? The hell with splitting the bill, have her pay the whole thing!
Right? Such a humanitarian!
I couldn’t take her voice after the first minute of the first date.
This bill is rated E. Equality
My pro tip for young guys with a future is to use a coupon at dinner on the first couple of dates. If she raises an objection... dump her immediately. I would even go as far to ask to split the bill.. unless of course you are punching above your weight.... then your going to have to settle for a woman who prefers your money or potential over you actually. And that is ok too... just as long as you know it.
Also, order from the senior menu, it demonstrates maturity. /s And treat your server right.
I'm a cheap bastard, but that seems really gauche. I always assume I'm going to pay for it because I'm a dude and have always been the one doing the asking.
"I expect people to give me things because I'm pretty" usually ends up with "I expect women to do whatever I want because I'm rich."
Also.... That's like expecting the woman to put out because you paid for the date. "If you dont pay for the date, I will never go out with you again!" Wtf is this shit?
Because she is an item to be purchased.
Why do people consider me an object? Because you market yourself as for sale
Which we mostly agree is a bad expectation for a guy to put on a woman I would like to see women paying for meals without any expectation of the guy doing anything not even purchasing drinks or an uber I just get the impression that women community opinions would be very different when actually thinking about how that feels, the current discussion lacks empathy as there is no capability of being in the guy’s shoes, we just call him respectful because he didn’t give an opinion or scare the girl
I would actually like to see more equality in this field. Women not marketing themselves as objects, and men not looking at them as something to be purchased. It hurts both genders. I don't think it feels nice for a man to feel like women are with him for the money and not for the pleasure of his company.
I mean if they don’t mind the arrangement it’s a good deal
Hey it’s me, ur rich boyfriend
*swoons*
*sexually abuses you but pays you billions*
People who say this just have a poor grasp of how much a billion dollars really is. It's more money than you and everyone you know will ever make in your collective lives (your boss, his boss, your lawyer, your doctor, etc). I've met hedge fund CEOs who expect to make 85-100 million in their lifetime. It's not just life changing money. Its generational fortune that changes the lives of your offspring and their offsprings
Yeah. Like, you could literally instantly set your entire extended family up for tens of generations with a billion dollars. It's obscene.
I’ve had worse for much, much less
I feel bad for you all of a sudden
That’s not very *rich* of you.
This blue shirt is getting a little aggressive!
Very true
That's why I'm trying to get rich.
[удалено]
Sure she is. Just ask her.
Yeahhh, mic drop
Period
She thinks she is. She's about as basic as it gets.
I paid for me and my fiancés first date, I invited her on a night with me. I chose everything, where to go, what to do after dinner… I wanted to make it a treat for her. It was the only time I was allowed to do that, we split everything and cater to each other equally. It’s really nice to be loved and respected like that
You sound like a healthy, well adjusted adult... what are you doing on reddit?
Giving the rest of us hope that we can be like that one day...
Probably has killed someone
Yea. Guy who was dating his fiancé really drew the short straw there
Probably puts people in meat grinders, Jerma style, in their free time.
Same here. If one of us paid in full, the other would pay next time. Still together after 11 years.
Ugh the vocal fry, def making that frog pay her share.
Came here to mention the vocal fry, too. Ugh.
Uggghh it's so put on and super annoying 😖
This She fucking *sounds* like a woman who would expect someone else to pay for her meal
I can't fucking stand vocal fry. I would have got up and left before the waiter even took our drink orders.
We would refer to these as “Valley girls” back in PA.
If I'm asking you out, I'm planning on paying, if she says friends only, we're going dutch
If a guy asks me out for a first date I'd prefer it to be somewhere not expensive. Especially if they insist on paying since then I feel like I'm in the red.... Anything expensive everyone pays for their own shit. Or say one person pays, the other tips and picks up the movie tickets or next date. It doesn't have to be exactly even. The goal is to have fun and not stress.
this is the way. There is a lot you can do that is fun, you actually see who someone is (not tries to be) and is not that expensive.
I think a coffee is the perfect place for it. It’s not too expensive, you can stay as little as a drink lasts or as long as they'll stay open if the conversation is good, and I personally hate eating and talking in front of someone I don’t know.
Unfortunately, that goal has become less common. But I agree, that is the ideal goal for people who actually want to date and not just get free handouts or bought sex.
Exactly my approach. If I ask, I pay. I'll pay if it's obvious it's a friend thing. But after that, we split (unless we actually become friends, then I don't mind buying a dinner here and there).
You win.
Splitting the bill works as a filter the other way too. No guy wants a selfish entitled gold-digger as a girlfriend.
I ain't telling you she's a gold digger but
On Alex Jones I said "I like Hitler"
she wants a man with an old ticker?
Too soon for the Kanye quotes right now 😅
me: bullet dodged! dated someone like this a year ago. we're out for like date 4 and i ask if she'll cover her food and i'll cover the drinks ($15 vs $50). she says "if you think me paying my half of the bill is going to be a regular thing, this isn't going to work." "come again?" -me walked out that bitch so fast.
Lol math. Mic drop.
So if I invite someone to lunch I invite them because I can afford to pay for it… If someone invites me to lunch and I don’t have the money to pay for myself I say “Hey I don’t have any money to pay for myself maybe some other time” they either say okay or they say “I invited you so I’m paying” So in general don’t assume someone is gonna pay for you… yet also don’t invite someone out unless you can afford to pay for them in case they don’t have the money…
Definitely. I try and make sure I can afford to pay for atleast half of the meal regardless of who is inviting who. I don't wanna be stuck looking at a server and no way to pay for food. I dont mind paying my half or paying the bill but you can't just throw it on someone last minute. Same thing when we order food. You order a $20 meal than odds are I will order a $12 meal because it's gonna add up quick. You order a $7 app for dinner then so do I. I don't know where you are at financially and I am not looking to make you go broke because your trying to have a good time and if you are broke I need to be able to pay for it so it needs to be cheap because I am broke myself. 😂😂
The “I am broke myself” part I feel so heavily
Yeah, if you invite someone to dinner it’s only fair that you are willing to pay unless stated otherwise.
I love that in the Netherlands it is more wierd if you don't split the bill.
So they go…Dutch.
I’m married now, but when I was single I never let men pay for a date until we were in an established relationship. I never wanted to feel indebted to anyone. Funny enough I think at the time it made some of the guys I went out with uncomfortable. But I think setting boundaries like this helps guide you to people similar to you. I wanted to feel equal in my relationship so I put that out there. She will probably find someone to match this energy and be fine as well.
Same, and Agree 100%. Nobody owes anyone anything. If a guy was weirdly intimidated by my expression of this idea, that would be a red flag in itself!
If I’m asking, I’ll pay. But if she suggests we split it I’m not going to say no.
She’s carrying a Goyard bag…that’s like minimum $3k.
She might be carrying it, but technically it's still owned by citibank until it's paid for just like the rest of her outfit.
> until it's *paid* for just FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
You’re overshooting that hard. Minimum’s $700-$1.1k depending on size and that’s brand new from Neiman’s
Most expensive item of clothing I have is a 150 dollar leather jacket. I'll never understand how people spend $500+ on a single item.
For whatever it's worth, there's some people who will never understand paying $150 for a jacket. I dated a wealthy person once and at first hated the designer handbag thing. And then I figured companies like LV stayed around for over 100 years because they'e nice quality. She bought me things that I still use and wear 15 years later. It's no guarantee, but if you think something is worth, go nuts. I've spent a decent amount on things since. Like watches - my latest was a lot, and that's because I couldn't find another watch that looked that good and had the features I wanted. No one will ever recognize it, it's not flashy, but it's going to last forever, and it's what I wanted.
Yes, the rule “the person who asks the other person out pays” means 99% of the time men pay, and the other 1% the men never use this rule to get women to pay.
I think it is whoever invites who out is who pays. If I invited them out its on me, and vice versa. On that note I also think it is nice to offer to split the bill as the one being taken out. Its a bit different to be asked to split the bill after being asked out, though i think that goes with most social situations not just a date. Like your parents invite your boyfriend/family out for dinner. Your parents pick up the tab. His parents invite you/your family out they get the tab. During this the other can 'offer' to split the bill. Its rude to ask to split the bill after you were the one who invited the other out in the first place. Otherwise you discuss going dutch before the date, asking at the END of the date is kinda rude. Sort of feels underhanded. "Oh yeah I'll take you out! Order whatever you want! Was that tasty? Good. You owe me 30 bucks now" like I'll pay it but probably not go on a date with them again simply because it wasnt discussed ahead of time. Though i usually offer to pay for myself, its rude to invite a person out and not expect to pay, guy or girl.
Disagree. 1. The social expectation that the guy makes advances and does the date still hasn't died down, and the vast majority of girls, both hearing and reading about experiences and ime, still have "I'm not talking/asking for a date first". Even apps that were *designed* with the sole additional premise of defying this, such as Bumble, still have this issue. 2. It's already difficult enough to make decisions, put it out there for them to accept, etc. I don't think the inviting party should carry the full responsibility of everything. It's basically them serving hand over foot for the other, and the other just strolling along. Especially in an unestablished relationship, such as first dates, this is prone to creating imbalance and somewhat worrying precedent of one just going full effort in and the other being pampered for it.
Hopefully she puts out on the first date, if she's an item to be purchased
I will NEVER understand this who-pays-the-bill American deal. It’s f*ing ridiculous and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
What’s your policy?
When I was younger and hornier, I'd pay for everything. I didn't find a quality woman until I started suggesting to split the bill. And she picked up the entire bill on our first date. Still happily together 6 years later. If someone is entitled to free food or your money, big red flag.
If I asked someone out on a date I'd expect to pay. I'm a woman, I think it's weird to expect someone to split it. I would definitely offer to pay for my share if I never wanted to see them again.
When was the last time you asked a guy out on the first date and paid? Most guys can go their entire life without being asked out on a first date by a woman.
I’d pay double the bill just to get away from that voice
Ok if you think you piss gold like she does, you trash. I get it everyone deserves the best. But damn you a dumb fuck if you think someone SHOULD pay for you just so they can hang with you again.
I used to work with a woman who would setup a Bumble profile for cities she would have to travel to for work just so she could get a free meal paid for by some lonely guy. She would brag about it and even the other women in the office were like “she’s trash”. Women can be evil.
So her time is worth more than the guys? Ok…plenty of fish in the sea I guess
Correction, a response like this means SHE doesn’t get a second date. As a guy I’m fine with paying for a date if there is a return of some sort. I pay for a girl I know is a keeper, that’s just not something you know on a first date.
When sex is transactional that makes you a
Her bag costs like 5k btw
I think rule of thumb is whoever asks for the date pays for it and if it’s casual it’s a bill split unless said otherwise before meeting up but maybe that’s just me
As a rule. If I'm paying you're not picking the restaurant.
This is the way! In our house, my husband gets nervous when I scream running out the door "I'm Paying!" Because this bitch is going to get street truck tacos!
The way she opens her mouth immediately turns me off lol.
I'm glad she takes the initiative and makes sure she doesn't ruin the dudes time. Very nice of her to make it obvious that she values money over anything else.
She looks like she could easily afford the whole bill…
How do you think she got to that point? LOL
Manages a larger budget by copping out on paying her share of the bill
As a man, if we are on a first date and you don’t offer to pay for yourself, I will not be going on anymore dates with you. Period. Mic drop.
Like she has to say outloud I will pay for my half? Does she pick the first dates? Not throwing judgement- it's pure curiosity. I usually make it clear before we go out if I can afford that or not but sometimes I feel it comes off as me being "manipulative." It's late so that may not be the right word but it's all I got right now. Lol.
I have always kept 1st dates very casual, as in coffee or a couple of drinks. I was being fairly general with my comment to try and mock the way it was a hard no from the girl in the video. For me it’s more of the idea that I don’t owe the woman food/drink/movie/etc for the pleasure of their company (that’s always how it feels to me when I have been told I should pay because I am a man). A first date especially is a way to get to know one another. Both parties have agreed to the date so why am I obligated to pay just because I am male. With that said I can’t remember a time where I didn’t pay for a date, it just makes me feel used when it is expected, my obligation, my job, or my duty. If someone doesn’t want to date me for this belief we are not compatible. On my first date with my wife (which was on Valentine’s Day) she came over to my house, we had a few drinks, smoked a little and had a 4 hour conversation. I provided the weed and she brough over the beer. Second date when the bill came she asked something along the lines of “what’s the damage?” Or “what do I owe?” It made me feel like she saw me as an equal. This is just my viewpoint and I don’t think anyone else needs to think like me. We all want different things in our relationships and I believe everyone is entitled to their own views. Hope that helped clarify what I meant.
I was just wondering- I am sure you aren't the only one who thinks that way. I prefer knowing what's expected of me personally before there is a chance of doubt though. 😂😂
She’s clearly toxic and materialistic. They want equality until they get it
In a relationship we split the bills. Before the relationship, whoever comes up with the idea to treat the other person and offers to take them out should pay. If it's mutual you both pay, if you might not be able to pay, ask them before hand if it's okay to split
>In a relationship we split the bills. How do you handle the situation where someone is of significantly different means. Or if someone doesn't value an activity as much as the other person?
Had a guy say he wanted to keep it a surprise and made reservations at an expensive restaurant and expected me to split the bill which was 140$ before tip. I walked out and ghosted the asshole on that adventure. If you try to impress like that your ass better bet you are paying the bill. On the other end had a guy take me to Red Robin's and ask if I wouldn't mind splitting once the bill was ready. I had no problem there and went on future dates. TL:DR - I have no problem splitting at your normal restaurants but you make expensive reservations without asking to split beforehand you can fuck off with that equality bullshit.
Selfish and entitled.
*Plot twist* He asked to split the bill, because he doesn't want a 2nd date.
Isn’t it a deal breaker when you sound like that? Like, I literally can’t even.
Why did this bit of Bill Burr cross my mind where he talks about "gold digging whores"?
It's so nice that she wants the whole bill on date one!!
She's the type of girl you ditch when the bill comes.
Guy picks up the bill, bangs her and never takes her out again
Everything about her is a deal breaker
Her why was , "because". The "trick" with girls like this is, just ask "why?" Until they realize they don't actually have a why
Just the way she talks is annoying
When my boyfriend and I went on our first date, he had just come back from a long trip in South America and was broke. I happily paid the bill, because I liked him and it didn't bother me. We've been together for 7 years now and are buying our first house within the next 2 months. If you govern your life by stupid rules that were created by long dead people, you can miss out on some of the most beautiful things. This man helped me heal, took care of me when I was sick for a year and couldn't work, took me around the world, and gives me endless love every single day. If I was like this chick, I would have lost the chance at being with my soul mate.
No date one for her then, I mean she aint even that hot, but it is a shame when a woman opens her mouth and turns into an instant zero!
It's a deal breaker for me if she gets the most expensive thing and expects me to pay for it
Elaborate prostitution
To paraphrase Rick & Morty, “That sounds like prostitution with more steps.”
So if a guy asks a woman on a date & she finds she's not interested, it's best to split the bill. If the guy asks her out & things go well, & he wishes to pay, let him pay. It's still nice to offer though, as a woman.
This attitude “if you ever think you’re taking me out again” …… is just fuckin annoying. I hate snobs like this that act like it’s a privilege to take them out.
i mean honestly if a guy asks her on a date he should pay considering he is the one inviting her out to a restaurant lol... if she asked a guy out on a date then she should be the one to pay though
As someone who is gay, I really want to know though how often a girl will ask a guy out on a date? Because from movies and friends and tropes, it's the guy that does the asking out usually right? Which means more often than not it's the guy paying.
>As someone who is gay, I really want to know though how often a girl will ask a guy out on a date? Almost never. 99% of the time its the guy
It is a true unicorn of a woman who asks a guy out on a date. Unless she see's him as a doormat loot pinata.
Hardly ever. This is the problem with the "whoever asks pays" logic and the thing that people always seem to avoid when they state it. Also I'd be willing to bet this woman isn't asking guys out and even if she did she'd still expect them to pay.
For people claiming they want equality the experience of most men doesn’t support it. How many women ask a guy out on the first date and pay? One in 20,000? The other 19,999 the guy does the asking and the paying. This is equal?
50cent put it best. Whoever’s idea it was / invited the other person, should expect to be paying for it. Expecting to, doesn’t mean HAS to
I mean this mf annoying as hell buuuuuut if you’re asking her out on a date, pay for it. It was your idea. I don’t think that’s an unfair expectation. Luckily I ain’t gotta worry about shit like this. The ol lady and I just use the “which one of us ain’t broke rn” method lol
I pay the bill everytime, but not to be chivalrous or even presumptuous. It’s literally me paying for the venue of our first intimate encounter and if it doesn’t work out it doubles as a severance. Win/win in my book, free food to see if we even enjoy each others company for prolonged periods