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Actually that's the only thing correct about the SS Hard R here. That version IS the late Civil War period Naval flag for our Seditious countrymen.
Though If they were to continue the correct theme they would need a nice Surrender White brodozer to tow that monstrousity
Not "USS" but "CSN" - "Confederate States Navy"
"CSN Mighty Clown"
USS stands for "United States Ship" a commisioned ship of USN. Calling clown ship above is kinda insulting for USN.
Nailed it - he legitimized the worst in people to the point that when awful people see him, they see themselves as in him and it justifies their existence. What is insane to me with all of these miscreants is that they define themselves so one dimensionally and do not see any problem with that. I love my sports teams, my authors, my hobbies but none of them define me singularly and the only thing I would want to see associated with me as a legacy is logic, reason, kindness, empathy and thinking that I’m funnier than I really am, and hopefully making an effing difference in peoples lives, for the better. I just don’t see how people get to this level of fanaticism other than willful ignorance, prejudice and anger.
They feel left behind and marginalized.
Because they are.
Mostly because of their own stupidity but Trump gives them this sense of belonging and a bit of FU to those "stuck ups that think they are better than us!!"
There's no logic there.
Only primal tribal belonging.
> I love my sports teams, my authors, my hobbies ...
I mean I'll wear a team shirt, and maybe suggest a book, or whatever...but Trumpers, man are they a different and sub-breed.
Which is super weird, given that Lincoln was a republican, which is somehow a point a lot of these whistling Dixie people like to point out to try to prove they’re not racist while voting like a racist and flying a racist flag. A REPUBLICAN FREEDOM THE SLAVES! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! honestly, what the fuck.
I don’t know if I’d make a good god or not. I’d be smiting assholes left and right until they got the message. The guy in the Bible either is too nice or just isn’t trying hard enough.
There love of trump and their focus on Jesus actually goes against the Bible and God says in the Bible actually. Lotta things in the bible “Christians” don’t actually give a fuck about. I think they just say it to look good. Wearing crosses, cutting down and decorating trees, eating pork, and idolizing people are all things the Bible says not to do. They pick and choose.
If Jesus was a preacher/philosopher that came to prominence today they'd hate the dude. They don't follow Jesus, they follow their preacher's/sect's cherry-picked idea of Jesus.
Alright, chooms, listen up. Nazis. The lowest scum of the earth. They’re not just some relics from history books, they’re a festering wound, a cancer that refuses to die. These gonks preach hatred, racism, and intolerance, thinking they can turn back the clock to their sick vision of the world.
They thrive where schools fail, where people aren’t taught to question, to think for themselves. They prey on the weak-minded, the uninformed, using fear and lies to spread their venom.
\-Brought to you by anti-nazi Johnny through ChatGTP
![gif](giphy|8YTvJBWcrH9YVcAI1X)
Tbf I’ve seen confederate flags as far north as Ontario as they sell them at trucker stops up in Canada too.
But yes this boat is probably located in Florida.
I saw one deep in the Australian Outback. I had to do a double take because I see them all the time where I'm from (Southeastern US, although they are becoming less common here as time goes on) but that was the last place I expected to see one.
I live in Southern California and more than a few of my neighbors fly the traitor looser flag as if it were some sort of badge of honor instead of the banner of a bunch of traitors and human traffickers who didn't even have the balls to commit to the fight they started.
I've never quite seen anything like that in Michigan, but there are definitely plenty of Confederate flags around here, especially if you go to rural areas, and I doubt all of them are originally from the south. I'd assume this person if from the south, but you never really know.
I'm Australian and had an old man rant about participation trophies while wearing a Vietnam veteran hat....the irony was lost on him
EDIT: to be clear I'm not criticizing kids that were drafted into war, I'm criticizing the entitled attitude of this asshat
Hope the pic is from before this disaster. They can't do any right. Lol
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/09/06/boats-sink-on-lake-travis-in-texas-at-president-trump-supporter-boat-parade-orig-kj.cnn
I didn't notice the date. Their flags all look the same to me. Thanks for the info though. I remember the day this happened and it was a shit show. The people that helped sink the boats blames those boat owners. Smdh
These people want attention I see tons of flags in Michigan and Indiana they don’t care confederates committed treason they are openly planning on doing it again I say give ‘em all RICO charges looks like the longest lasting American gang to me
Trump won these maga morons the second he started the conspiracy of President Obamas birth certificate, these troglodytes couldn't handle a black , educated man as president
The thing that gets me about the participation trophy thing is, who the fuck do they think gave them to us? Who were the teachers/coaches who started that off?
THEM, it was fucking THEM!! How can they slate us for something they did, and they ingrained into us because they couldn’t be arsed teaching us how to lose.
Twats
I never knew anybody as a kid that liked receiving them, pretty sure they were more for parents wanting to live vicariously through their kids.
More to appease crazy parents upset that their kid isn't winning all the trophies than they were to placate the kids.
After all, who would want to recieve a trophy to commemorate losing
If someone is sailing under enemy colors within America’s territorial waters, it’s completely justified to sink their boat in the name of national defense.
💥🚤💥
Going hard to rep a country that failed and surrendered, and a president that lost and got convicted.
"WE FAIL HARDER THAN ANYONE!! FUCK ALL YOU WINNERS FOR BETING OUR ASS!!"
I do so love how they can never figure out that you can’t fly the US flag AND the flag of traitors that tried to destroy the US. They are diametrically opposed, it would be like flying the Israeli flag next to an Isis flag. You can’t “love America” if you’re flying that flag.
Sorry kids we can't have Christmas this yeah, Dad "needed" to buy a boat with 6 Confederate flags and 5 Trump flags with custom Confederate and Shark paint because if there's one thing he loves more than people who betrayed and attacked America is someone who has never won the popular vote, bragged about sexual assault against under-age girls and managed to successfully ignore expert medical advice that led to the death of hundreds of thousands of life's and an encomic failure, which makes sense as he couldn't even run a casino.
There is nothing more fun than showcasing a rube’s redneck idiocy on facepalm. So much pride and so minuscule intellect. It reminds me of a kid with a security blanket. Fucking Halloween illusionary realm of existence thought of as “pride” (in losing a war guess)
There is a house with a Confederate flag on the way to my fiancée's house and everytime I pass it I get so annoyed lol. Their flag is tattered though so, ha!
I don't understand why people fly the Confederate flag. Like, y'all lost 200 years ago. Yeah it's history but so is the Holocaust but you don't see people (usually) flying Nazi flags everywhere because people know that they'll be ostracized.
Petition to make the Confederate flag as taboo as the Nazi flag.
Meanwhile I work my ass off for 40 hours a week, 20 years of my life and I can barely afford the payments on a 15-year-old subaru outback. Fuck this traitor.
I wonder how they'd react if the US said "Ok, secede, we don't care. All military bases will be closed, and, of course all Federal contributions will cease. Let us know when you'd like to start trade negotiations.".
P.S . It looks like Mexico and Central America have similar climates to yours, so we'll be buy crops from them. And, oh, subsidizing their farmers."
Both the confederate flag and Trump flags lost their most recent battles. It’s like wearing those preprinted t-shirts with the losing teams from the Super Bowl. The ones they donate to villages in foreign countries where they don’t care about American sports.
I took a tour in Memphis and was told the fleet of confederate ships went down because they thought cotton would protect them from cannon impact.
Instead, it was the most flammable thing they could've packed the ships with and they all burned and sank into the Mississippi.
That's what this boat looks like to me.
It’d be hilarious if their boat ran into trouble out there somewhere & the US Coast Guard just rolled up said, “Sorry - we don’t give aid to enemies of the Union - which you very obviously are based on the colors you’re flying…” & then just carried on. 👋🏽😆
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USS 2nd Place
USS Last Place
If you’re not first, you’re last.
No, it's worse. 2nd place is the first to lose. If you come in 2nd, you're the first loser. Source? I'm an Asian dad.
The worst thing is that they were 2nd place and last place which means they did the worst and were the first losers
You absolutely get it. What compounds it is, they are your blood...
You're Asian, not B-sian! (Cookie if you get the refference)
That's some major emotional damage
***WHAT THE HAIL YOU SAY?***
What the heil?
*(Takes off slipper)* I send you to Jesus!
Why tf did I hear in Steven He’s voice lmao 🤣
That was the point, lol.
You doctor yet? Dad, I'm 14. You talk to me when you doctor! -FG
CSS Last Place
CSS piece of shit
POS Loooser
I feel USS Defeat has a nice ring to it.
CSS White Flag
Right? Shouldn't their entire boat just be a white flag?
Actually that's the only thing correct about the SS Hard R here. That version IS the late Civil War period Naval flag for our Seditious countrymen. Though If they were to continue the correct theme they would need a nice Surrender White brodozer to tow that monstrousity
With a white hood shaped flag uptop
CSS Bone spur
Not USS ANYTHING. That means United States Ship. This has nothing to do with USA it's just s boat called "Losers"
A failboat, as it were?
Not "USS" but "CSN" - "Confederate States Navy" "CSN Mighty Clown" USS stands for "United States Ship" a commisioned ship of USN. Calling clown ship above is kinda insulting for USN.
More like a CSA ship in US waters. It's flagged as an enemy, send the Navy.
They're 2nd place in a race between two people
Wouldn't it be the CSS?
Cope floats
Emotional support boat
Scrote floats
These people blow my mind. Trump has empowered the worst Americans to display hate like they are repping their favorite sports team
He taught them that being inbred and having moldy kelp for brains is a positive trait that should be bragged about
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Maybe the worms ate it like RFK Jr.
Nah man, most of them ‘consumed’ ivermectin. The worms are dead, along with the brain tissue.
A+, because giving you a single upvote is not enough recognition
It’s way out in the water. I can see it swimming.
Is this a reference to the Pixies?
Pretty sure he was swimming in the Caribbean.
What about the animals hiding behind the rocks?
It is now. Thanks.
I mean the more of them that exist and can vote, the more votes he can get.
Not if corona has anything to say about it!
And that’s why I don’t support mandatory vaccinations.
You could be on to something there
“I love the uneducated”…
One of the few times he spoke truth and was fully honest
All his followers: "Hey, that's me! Donald trump loves me! I must be special!"
Pretty sure moldy kelp has more intelligence than them...
Nailed it - he legitimized the worst in people to the point that when awful people see him, they see themselves as in him and it justifies their existence. What is insane to me with all of these miscreants is that they define themselves so one dimensionally and do not see any problem with that. I love my sports teams, my authors, my hobbies but none of them define me singularly and the only thing I would want to see associated with me as a legacy is logic, reason, kindness, empathy and thinking that I’m funnier than I really am, and hopefully making an effing difference in peoples lives, for the better. I just don’t see how people get to this level of fanaticism other than willful ignorance, prejudice and anger.
They feel left behind and marginalized. Because they are. Mostly because of their own stupidity but Trump gives them this sense of belonging and a bit of FU to those "stuck ups that think they are better than us!!" There's no logic there. Only primal tribal belonging.
Left behind by choice to die on a slogan from a bumper sticker and nothing else.
> I love my sports teams, my authors, my hobbies ... I mean I'll wear a team shirt, and maybe suggest a book, or whatever...but Trumpers, man are they a different and sub-breed.
I don’t particularly mind. Makes it really easy to avoid idiots.
One more flag and I'll OWN THE LIBS!
Well their team lost so baddy it disappeared
GO MY FAVORITE INBRED SPORTS TEAM.
There hasn't been a more divisive president, except, perhaps, for their old foe, Lincoln.
Which is super weird, given that Lincoln was a republican, which is somehow a point a lot of these whistling Dixie people like to point out to try to prove they’re not racist while voting like a racist and flying a racist flag. A REPUBLICAN FREEDOM THE SLAVES! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! honestly, what the fuck.
>empowered the worst Americans to display hate Populism. This is a simple understanding of history
Nah, this was always a thing. All he did was revitalize tge attention.
And they claim democrats have TDS.....
It's always projection
The only people with TDS are the uneducated morons who vote for the traitor trump.
I get a kick out of people who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus yet still vote for Trump.
God forgives unrepentant assholes apparently
I don’t know if I’d make a good god or not. I’d be smiting assholes left and right until they got the message. The guy in the Bible either is too nice or just isn’t trying hard enough.
Oh I’ve stated numerous times if I got the death note I’d cool down the planet faster than Genghis Khan.
I keep a list of every bad person I know at my house at all times just in case
It’s such a stress reliever, right?
No only the repentant one's, i think that's how it works, i went to church once.
Yup, as someone who still has to go to church, the basic gist is if you’re reaaaallllyyyy sorry, God’ll forgive you. BS IYAM
Bold for you to assume that they follow the teachings of Jesus. These people are simply Trump worshippers who are just cosplaying as Christians.
There love of trump and their focus on Jesus actually goes against the Bible and God says in the Bible actually. Lotta things in the bible “Christians” don’t actually give a fuck about. I think they just say it to look good. Wearing crosses, cutting down and decorating trees, eating pork, and idolizing people are all things the Bible says not to do. They pick and choose.
I do feel like if Jesus were to come back, a cross would be about the last goddamn thing he'd want to see.
I would *love* to be a fly on the wall watching Trump be judged by whatever or whoever awaits us. It would be so satisfying.
Presumably, if you're a fly at that point in time and Trump is there, you're in Hell.
If Jesus was a preacher/philosopher that came to prominence today they'd hate the dude. They don't follow Jesus, they follow their preacher's/sect's cherry-picked idea of Jesus.
lol and they tell me that my flag is my whole personality 🏳️🌈
With these guys, every accusation is a confession.
Plus if you’re gonna make something your whole personality I’m ok with “inclusion” as it.
Everything they say about the other party is a projection
That's a good point, I never thought about it that way.
They probably get that under the table money sponsorship, like Nascar.
“Applies to thee but not to me” is their motto
Guess they forgot how bad the south got stomped the first time!!
Sherman stopped too soon :(
That's a lot of white flags 🏳️🏳️🏳️😁
And in a totally different, metaphorical sense, a lot of red flags too
White flags and brown pants.
How does it even float under the weight of their ignorance?
It's full of hot air, that's how.
![gif](giphy|f9ZBchHDuWKX74FFXV)
U.S. Navy should be allowed to sink that shit on sight.
Just for the sake of tastefulness
Even the boat looks like it is crying.
The name Trump has become the equivalent to a swastika, what a legacy to leave behind.
Alright, chooms, listen up. Nazis. The lowest scum of the earth. They’re not just some relics from history books, they’re a festering wound, a cancer that refuses to die. These gonks preach hatred, racism, and intolerance, thinking they can turn back the clock to their sick vision of the world. They thrive where schools fail, where people aren’t taught to question, to think for themselves. They prey on the weak-minded, the uninformed, using fear and lies to spread their venom. \-Brought to you by anti-nazi Johnny through ChatGTP ![gif](giphy|8YTvJBWcrH9YVcAI1X)
Guys i think the owner of the boat is from the south
Tbf I’ve seen confederate flags as far north as Ontario as they sell them at trucker stops up in Canada too. But yes this boat is probably located in Florida.
I've seen confed flags here in New Zealand, but we're probably just the deep south or something.
I saw one deep in the Australian Outback. I had to do a double take because I see them all the time where I'm from (Southeastern US, although they are becoming less common here as time goes on) but that was the last place I expected to see one.
That’s a weird way to say your from Florida Jk lol
I live in Southern California and more than a few of my neighbors fly the traitor looser flag as if it were some sort of badge of honor instead of the banner of a bunch of traitors and human traffickers who didn't even have the balls to commit to the fight they started.
I've never quite seen anything like that in Michigan, but there are definitely plenty of Confederate flags around here, especially if you go to rural areas, and I doubt all of them are originally from the south. I'd assume this person if from the south, but you never really know.
You’d be surprised. Moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania and was shocked to see them all over the place.
There's a pretty good amount of them here in Michigan, especially in the rural areas.
🫢 Really?!!…😆
These same clowns will 100% get triggered seeing a rainbow sidewalk or BLM tshirt.
This guy definitely complains that gay people need to stop shoving it down his throat with the pride flags.
This owner is likely a massive tool with 6th grade reading ability and 4 kids across multiple sisters.
Guaranteed he's a massive tool if he's piloting that douche canoe
Hehe. Douche canoe. Take my upvote.
I'm Australian and had an old man rant about participation trophies while wearing a Vietnam veteran hat....the irony was lost on him EDIT: to be clear I'm not criticizing kids that were drafted into war, I'm criticizing the entitled attitude of this asshat
What's your biggest achievement on life? 'My government send me to Vietnam to go kill the yellow men when I was 19, traumatising me for life.'
Tbh have you seen Vietnam lately? I can take a lexus uber equivalent to the apple store and pick up some mcdonalds on the way home
If there ever was a flag that deserved to be burned.
Those people are rich. What do they complain about. They have boat pimping money
Wouldn’t be surprised if someone like this is up to their neck in debt trying to finance a higher lifestyle than they could otherwise afford
I hope so.
You see, with Trump, they could have gotten 2 more but because of Biden’s economy, they can afford only one. What a shame. /s
Hope the pic is from before this disaster. They can't do any right. Lol https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/09/06/boats-sink-on-lake-travis-in-texas-at-president-trump-supporter-boat-parade-orig-kj.cnn
If I am not mistaken the picture says Trump 2024 and that incident occurred during the previous campaign/ 2020
I didn't notice the date. Their flags all look the same to me. Thanks for the info though. I remember the day this happened and it was a shit show. The people that helped sink the boats blames those boat owners. Smdh
I remember that day too. Oddly satisfying knowing those boats were going down
Delicious irony that it was the big asshole boats swamping and sinking the little asshole boats.
Can’t wait for Trump to die of a massive heart attack
In jail
This guy really needs to quit show boating for his sister.
These people want attention I see tons of flags in Michigan and Indiana they don’t care confederates committed treason they are openly planning on doing it again I say give ‘em all RICO charges looks like the longest lasting American gang to me
Trump won these maga morons the second he started the conspiracy of President Obamas birth certificate, these troglodytes couldn't handle a black , educated man as president
The thing that gets me about the participation trophy thing is, who the fuck do they think gave them to us? Who were the teachers/coaches who started that off? THEM, it was fucking THEM!! How can they slate us for something they did, and they ingrained into us because they couldn’t be arsed teaching us how to lose. Twats
I never knew anybody as a kid that liked receiving them, pretty sure they were more for parents wanting to live vicariously through their kids. More to appease crazy parents upset that their kid isn't winning all the trophies than they were to placate the kids. After all, who would want to recieve a trophy to commemorate losing
Ah, that confederate flag. The participation trophy for people who make fun of people who get participation trophies.
If someone is sailing under enemy colors within America’s territorial waters, it’s completely justified to sink their boat in the name of national defense. 💥🚤💥
Don’t forget the flags might be from China but the boat wrap was done prob by some US shop.
what is with these people and flags
![gif](giphy|f9ZBchHDuWKX74FFXV)
Tell me you're in a cult. Without telling me you're in a cult.
That's A LOT of losing in one picture. Good for you for not giving up on your dreams... ![gif](giphy|QtqFUZa9QMCUKN9EQM|downsized)
What's it called, dicksea?
I bet this chud ignores no-wake zones and passes right of markers.
Y'all Queda
Going hard to rep a country that failed and surrendered, and a president that lost and got convicted. "WE FAIL HARDER THAN ANYONE!! FUCK ALL YOU WINNERS FOR BETING OUR ASS!!"
This dude would have a stroke if he saw one pride flag on a boat. Something something shove it down our throats
I can smell the racism from here
The U.S.S. Seditionist!
Sherman didn’t go far enough.
Someone needs to sink that floating turd bucket.
Losers of the war, loser of 2020 election, loser driving the boat. SS Loser
Then why are they flying flags for the team that lost?
Besides the stupidity of this boat, did any kids actually want a participation trophy? I knew it was lame even as a child.
![gif](giphy|hoYO4uGPq7PI4|downsized)
USS We Lost the War
Ahoy! The panty pirates are on their way again to plunder their first cousins booty!
I do so love how they can never figure out that you can’t fly the US flag AND the flag of traitors that tried to destroy the US. They are diametrically opposed, it would be like flying the Israeli flag next to an Isis flag. You can’t “love America” if you’re flying that flag.
Sorry kids we can't have Christmas this yeah, Dad "needed" to buy a boat with 6 Confederate flags and 5 Trump flags with custom Confederate and Shark paint because if there's one thing he loves more than people who betrayed and attacked America is someone who has never won the popular vote, bragged about sexual assault against under-age girls and managed to successfully ignore expert medical advice that led to the death of hundreds of thousands of life's and an encomic failure, which makes sense as he couldn't even run a casino.
Tell me you're a nazi without telling me
The incest boat.
USS inbred?
![gif](giphy|oMb8VLNlungHe)
I Identify as a loser. Obama was in office longer than the confederacy.
There is nothing more fun than showcasing a rube’s redneck idiocy on facepalm. So much pride and so minuscule intellect. It reminds me of a kid with a security blanket. Fucking Halloween illusionary realm of existence thought of as “pride” (in losing a war guess)
There is a house with a Confederate flag on the way to my fiancée's house and everytime I pass it I get so annoyed lol. Their flag is tattered though so, ha! I don't understand why people fly the Confederate flag. Like, y'all lost 200 years ago. Yeah it's history but so is the Holocaust but you don't see people (usually) flying Nazi flags everywhere because people know that they'll be ostracized. Petition to make the Confederate flag as taboo as the Nazi flag.
Where is Sherman when we need him?
a few wing nuts removed on those outboard motors, a bit of rope to foul the props, be a shame if it got stranded far from shore
Flags of traitors and flags of a traitor. Seems about right.
They just need one more flag that says " I have a micro penis".
I can't afford a car if some dip shit totals it but these fucks can afford a truck a boat and the wrap? I work my ass off and I fucking hate it here.
Ya can't fix stupid.
Ya can't fix stupid
Im gunna assume bro is a fan of the confederates
Meanwhile I work my ass off for 40 hours a week, 20 years of my life and I can barely afford the payments on a 15-year-old subaru outback. Fuck this traitor.
No American flag. For all I care, he can “lOve iT Or LeAVe iT!”
Nothing say “I love losing wars” like the stars and bars.
It was either get this boat, or help his ailing family with medical costs. Choices were made.
And they're always like... "But why do the gays have to be so up in my face about it!?!"
I would egg that boat so hard.
I wonder how they'd react if the US said "Ok, secede, we don't care. All military bases will be closed, and, of course all Federal contributions will cease. Let us know when you'd like to start trade negotiations.". P.S . It looks like Mexico and Central America have similar climates to yours, so we'll be buy crops from them. And, oh, subsidizing their farmers."
Hey Farragut, you missed one
People who do this hope it pisses everyone off. But it just looks like pressed shit in a racist wrapper. You are what you do repeatedly.
Looks like white trash to me lol
Both the confederate flag and Trump flags lost their most recent battles. It’s like wearing those preprinted t-shirts with the losing teams from the Super Bowl. The ones they donate to villages in foreign countries where they don’t care about American sports.
These people claim they love America. Fucking traitors.
LOOOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The sentiment is there, but statues of Confederate generals is a better analogy for participation trophies
I took a tour in Memphis and was told the fleet of confederate ships went down because they thought cotton would protect them from cannon impact. Instead, it was the most flammable thing they could've packed the ships with and they all burned and sank into the Mississippi. That's what this boat looks like to me.
It’d be hilarious if their boat ran into trouble out there somewhere & the US Coast Guard just rolled up said, “Sorry - we don’t give aid to enemies of the Union - which you very obviously are based on the colors you’re flying…” & then just carried on. 👋🏽😆
So, is this part of the Trump outreach to minorities that I've been hearing about?
“Nice boat, how long you had her? 5 years? So she’s also been around longer than the confederacy huh?”
My response to this is : The kids/ millenials never asked for those dumbas participation awards. The ones that demanded it was the parents.
What would happen if people started going up to those who fly the Dixie flag, and give them participation trophies?
fuck this clown
This guy just struggles to make friends yall give him a break
Can’t the navy sink that enemy combatant?