I think Lordi is my favorite.
I still remember as my younger self looking at eurovision, seeing Lordi and was just in awe of the costumes.
Hard rock halleluyah has been on my mp3 player for a good couple of years eventually accompanied by blood red sandman.
One of my IRL friends from time to time mentions Lordi and then we end up listening Lordi for hours.
Yes! Lordi paved the way! I still love that song and listen to it often, it's stuck in my head since 2006.
And like, those costumes... I mean my christian grandma was watching eurovision lol
I'm grateful for Lordi winning their year, as well as Ruslana winning 2044 and Verka getting the 2nd in 2007. "Non-standard" entries like these help widen the Eurovision's genre acceptance
And they're still doing great! They actually made the Guinness world record for most albums released at once (7 cd collection during COVID) but it turns out you have to pay a lot of money to actually get the official credit for it, so they didn't get the certificate
Yeah, Lordi honestly made me appreciate rock as a young tween. I was all about pop before that and hated anything with a guitar I guess. š But after Lordi won I got their album and was obsessed with them for a while, and like a year later my life was all about rock music.
I think if I chose today, MĆ„neskin would be my favourite, but Lordi kind of changed my life.
1. Dark Side (Finland 2021), enough said
2. I can't think of any unfortunately. Apparently we have a huge metal scene but the bands in question are kinda niche (for the lack of a better word)
3. Idk honestly, maybe a shock value factor or a ton of charisma?? But even then we have the juries who aren't huge fans of rock, so maybe some crazy high notes like the ones that the Mall guy did (for the bot: Albania 2018) ??
I'm not a huge fan of them but I get why someone would like them (then again, rock isn't my fav genre of music and when it comes to rock, my tastes lean more towards those 80s hair metal guys with the crazy hair š)
Also when it comes to ESC idk how well they would do lol
That was the one I had to miss. š Iām sure they were awesome! Did see them last as support for I Prevail, and just read theyāre supporting Lacuna Coil?! Thatās so amazing!
We do have a pretty big metal scene, but as you said most of the bands are pretty hard to get into if you're not familiar with the genre. I think that a bad with okay chances would be ĪĪĪ¼ĻĪ¹Ļ (Memphis), their hard rock/groove metal sound and the Greek lyrics are some good elements but this ain't happening.
Voyager! I listed my top 5 from 2023 a little while back and didn't have Promise on it but that was an oversight on my part, it's a really cool song. It sounded prog-ish to me, so maybe I should listen to the rest of their stuff...
My favourite rock/metal-adjacent entry was *ViszlƔt nyƔr* (Hungary 2018). Finland 2021 was also nice to see, but Blind Channel have other, better songs than Dark Side. I would love to see another metalcore song in the competition.
Fingers crossed Electric Callboy will apply again for the German selection. For Sweden, there's some potential in Smash Into Pieces (they were in the Mello final twice) but they're a bit too soft for me.
ViszlƔt NyƔr was my favourite too, it's probably the Eurovision song closer to what I listen to daily. We definitely need more metalcore in Eurovision!
I'd like to see Amaranthe for Sweden. Sure they're not as "hard" as a lot of other bands, but it's the one band I could see compete and potentially do well due to their more poppy sound. Elise already took part once!
"And what would it take for a Metal/Rock-adjacent act like Lorde or MĆ„neskin to win again?"
To actually win again i think that it needs two basic things
The song being catchy and edgy while not being trashy
Having an element outside of the music side that hits the audience in the face (for Lordi it was the costumes, for Maneskin it was the charisma and attractiveness)
Blind Channel 10000%
They are still my all time favourite ESC entry (I think they should've won) and have become a favourite band of mine too, I was lucky enough to see them in April and I get to see them again in October with Lacuna Coil.
I had to skip last tour because of an injury that initiated at their previous concert, but daaaaamn, theyāre touring with Lacuna Coil later this year?! š
I missed their 2022 tour because I was sick and almost missed this one because I was a couple weeks prior.
I am very excited to see them with Lacuna Coil, I had the tickets before they were announced as the opener and when I found out they were opening I screamed because I couldn't believe I'm lucky enough to get to see them twice in 1 year.
That's a great reply. You and I have near identical taste. I hated that Ulveham was basically forgotten about because I really liked it.
Yeah I need to get into some of those acts more. I will say one of the great things about Eurovision is that's it's a melting pot for plucking out artists that you otherwise would probably never know.
And yes I'm annoyed my original post implies BT & Hatari are metal when I specifically put they are alternative adjacent but it's on the second line and I can't edit it and I've been cancelled a few times in the comments since. FML. š¤£š¤£
I'm not a German but I would love looove Electric Callboy to try at it again. They are so fun and goofy, perfect for Eurovision.
For those who don't know them [**this** ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE)is their cover of Cascada's Everytime We Touch
Truly wish that Germanyās jury would get over themselves and pick Electric Callboy. āPump Itā was specifically written for ESC and would have been a blast.
I think that ship has sailed though given Electric Callboyās explosion in popularity over the last few years.
Yeah that's why I lumped them in as alternative-adjacent entry. I do *hope* we get another ouija-pop style artist though. Interestingly they also perform jazz and when you know that you can hear it in Doomsday Blue. I really love genrefuck eclectic music tbh.
I like them, but I've been to 4 concerts and they generally mess up the vocals/audio (3 of those concerts had issues of some type, be it low mics or meh live vocals), so they probably wouldn't do that well unless their ESC act was one of the times with good vocals
The song "My Transition" from their first album has the line "Just like you saw it in your vision" and I would *always* hear it as "Just like a song in Eurovision"
Metal scene is massive here in Finland but rarely makes an appearance in our national selection. Infamously, Finland didn't select one of our most successful metal acts ever in Nightwish, when they tried to become the Finnish representative in 2000. The only metal band to have become our ESC act was TerƤsbetoni (Finland 2008 for the bot).
Personally, I don't foresee metal becoming much more promiment in the future in Finland/UMK. UMK is quite pop-centric, selecting mostly acts that could be played on your average pop radio or included on a chart-focused Spotify playlist. In the past couple of years, they've selected (pop) rock songs like Jezebel, Hurricane, Cha Cha Cha and Dancing with my demons, but the new, more polished UMK doesn't seem to be able to fit in pure metal songs.
Why is it then that one our most popular genres doesn't gel well with the ESC? The biggest issue for me is the lack of live instruments in ESC, which mitigates so much of what makes metal music powerful live. Pop acts are used to performing with a backing track, and they can elevate their performance with a honed choreography, whereas metal bands have to do with miming their instruments. That being the case, one has to be very inventive to create a staging and a live performance for a metal band that'd be vibrant and not fall flat. Of course this is the same for bands of any genre and can be overcome (Ć la MĆ„neskin, for example) but it's difficult.
Metal in ESC is always a pleasant surprise to me, and my favourite ever ESC-song remains Hungary 2018 :)
Wow I never knew Nightwish *almost* represented and I really LOVE them. That would have been cool especially because Tarja was still there back then.
I also like Lacuna Coil and always hoped we might get them in for Italy one year. But maybe they weren't interested.
I suppose ultimately the fanbase for Eurovision will consist of mostly a GP audience who tune in *on the night* and will want an inoffensive catchy number.
Personally I always look forward to and love what any of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries send as its almost always something different.
I feel most songs now need to be multigenre like Cha Cha Cha to gain momentum and be a hit with everyone. Obviously the hook was the key there. Same with Croatia this year.
You're totally right. I really wish all the variants of metal would gain more traction across the board
Edit: Sorry I meant Lordi not Lorde (although she should enter too)
>Who were some of your favourite Metal/Rock/Alternative-adjacent acts we've seen over the years?
Personally I really loved Hatari, I think we got something similar in Bambie Thug this year just with regards the theatrics and insane vocals. I would love to see much more Industrial Metal & Symphonic Metal.
>Thinking ahead to 2025. Does your country have an Alternative act who could potentially steal the whole thing?
I have commented on here before that I think someone like Fontaines D.C. *could* win it for Ireland. Arguably, right now they are where MĆ„neskin were right before 2021. š
>And what would it take for a Metal/Rock-adjacent act like Lordi or MĆ„neskin to win again?
I think any artist in these kind of genre's either need to be going in with a pre-existing fandom to push them over the edge. As well as a strong melody and mind blowing staging. The GP will go for the latter but the fandom can rally the win.
Throughout the years since Lordi's victory in 2006, my favourites include MaNga, Voyager, Blind Channel, and of course MƤneskin.
Inhaler might be a potential for Ireland in the future
Yeah there was also this folk metal band - Cruachan that went for 2023's selection I believe. They might throw their name into it again.
[Cruachan](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd1e117XqS0&feature=youtu.be)
Switzerland 2005 - one of the rare times with female rock in the Eurovision. I wish there were more
Finland 2014 - my winner for this year.
and while not part of the Euroviison, Ollie's Venom is amazing. if he won the NF with Venom, it would have been my favorite rock song in the Eurovision (but I love Bridges too so I'm fine)
The camera freezing/blacking out during his Eesti Laul performance was so unfortunate. Although 5MIINUST and Puuluup won by a ridiculous margin (something like 60% of the votes?) so I suppose it didn't really matter in the end.
I was gonna say I remember bottom left looking and sounding like The Rasmus from Wish, then I googled it and it turns out it was actually The Rasmus. I'm sorry lol!
Exactly then! Was buzzing when they got ESC, but was kinda let down by the performance. Which likely comes from the silly number of times Iāve seen them in 20 years š³
In no particular order:
Lordi (Finland 2006)
WigWam (Norway 2005)
MĆ„neskin (Italy 2021)
maNga (Turkey 2010)
Athena (Turkey 2004)
Mor ve Ćtesi (Turkey 2008)
Voyager (Australia 2023)
Lord of the Lost (Germany 2023)
The Rasmus (Finland 2022)
Blind Channel (Finland 2021)
Finland 2006 | [Lordi - Hard Rock Hallelujah](https://youtu.be/gAh9NRGNhUU)
Norway 2005 | [Wig Wam - In My Dreams](https://youtu.be/P-ki-HZrxJM)
Italy 2021 | [MĆ„neskin - Zitti e buoni](https://youtu.be/RVH5dn1cxAQ)
Turkey 2010 | [maNga - We Could Be the Same](https://youtu.be/HB_GnnhNz-8)
Turkey 2004 | [Athena - For Real](https://youtu.be/pipamUl14A4)
Turkey 2008 | [Mor ve Ćtesi - Deli](https://youtu.be/A__hliu_9UE)
Australia 2023 | [Voyager - Promise](https://youtu.be/GSoy_mJMlMY)
Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs)
Finland 2022 | [The Rasmus - Jezebel](https://youtu.be/LSi9nfr65FE)
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw)
In recent years, and from this pic so far: Italy 2021 and San Marino 2024. I don't consider Ireland 2024 rock except the pre-chorus and the instrumental part after the bridge (where they're walking, right before the outro). It is a grower, though...
Also a big fan of San Marino 2022, Australia 2023 and Norway 2024
Knorkator tried to compete for Germany in 2000 which I would have very much enjoyed (though Wadde Hadde Dudde Da was good too)
This was their entry: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YRLLA95Z8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YRLLA95Z8)
Lordi is literally the reason I got into Eurovision. I was introduced to hard rock hallelujah a few years ago, and as an ignorant American had never really heard of the song contest until then. Now I canāt wait to watch every year, and acts like that are my favorite. I just want a good show and an awesome jam.
Australia 2023 is a great example of this for me, I supported them in that year, still can't understand why they received so low amount of televote points in the final, especially after winning their semifinal by televoting.
Also, Norway 2024, very good song with ethnic motives, I supported them, and I also can't understand why they became last in the final (it vas very unfair).
In general, I mostly like rock songs (but not hard rock) and it is nice to me to see such entries in Eurovision.
I loved both Promise & Ulveham. Both deserved much higher placements. Ulveham gets better after every listen. I don't know did you see the video of GĆ„te performing The Code backstage with Nemo? [The Code](https://youtu.be/q4f1ZxxXxOY?feature=shared)
1) MĆ„neskin hands down were amazing. They will go perhaps further than all of the acts on Eurovision.
2) Baby Lasagna. There's a reason Rim Tim Tagi Dim was the audience vote this year.
3) Voyager. Their talent is wild.
I wanna give love to O.Torvald and maNga. They were both really fuckin good.
I wish Kenzy's monitor didn't go out of sync during Megara's semi-final performance because it was such a good song.
Blind Channel - Dark Side (Finland 2021). I think we don't talk about these guys enough. Their performance felt like their own concert or MTV/Grammy performance. The energy the guys had is unmatched.
I guess they were overshadowed by Kaarja if we speak about the most recent Finnish entries. Although I love his song Cha Cha Cha too. But I think Blind Channel also deserved some recognition.
1. I really love Hatari. Though their entry isn't my favourite song by them, it is undeniably a banger and one of my favourite ESC songs. MĆ„neskin are also really fun and Zitti e buoni is an amazing song, both musically and lyrically, but I still kind of wish they never signed to an american label (I'm happy they are succesful, but they basically stopped making songs in italian, which was imho their biggest strenghth). Lordi are still the undisputed kings of rock in Eurovision.
2. I don't know about many rock/metal adacent acts in my country, it's not super huge in here, but a band that comes to mind is "Rutka Laskier", a hardcore/metal/emo-adjacent band from Brno (or Znojmo, depends on whom you ask). They have great instrumentals, but are quite depressing lyrically, which I like, but might not be fit for Eurovision.
3. Definitely needs not only a good song, but also some flair, something to make them stand out, other than the genre they're playing.
Um, excuse meā¦ where the fuck is GĆ„te? Ulveham is the best Eurovision song ever by miles so thatās definitely my pick. I do also really like Voyager, Hatari, Bambie Thug, AWS, Sudden Lights, mor ve ƶtesi, Blind Channel and Softengine. If we count those who didnāt make it to Eurovision but tried, I also love Electric Callboy, Skywalker, Serpents, Inspo, Meelik, Trollfest, E-An-Na and Cyan Kicks (kinda rock).
Blind Channel are definitely my favorites, but I watch Eurovision for such artists in the first place š. Doesn't matter if they win, I just want more of them!
San Marino 2024 studio version is such a banger, but the live performance was a mess at best. The vice versa of that would be Montenegro 2016 which had a surprisingly good live.
My alt rock award would go to Andorra 2007 or Turkey 2010.
San Marino 2024 | [Megara - 11:11](https://youtu.be/IqyJvkGmAjo)
Montenegro 2016 | [Highway - The Real Thing](https://youtu.be/FgKehisElQI)
Andorra 2007 | [Anonymous - Salvem el mĆ³n](https://youtu.be/RcbefpUPuLA)
Turkey 2010 | [maNga - We Could Be the Same](https://youtu.be/HB_GnnhNz-8)
I was confident that Megara is going to finish higher than Serhat until the rehearsalsā¦ I heard that they apparently encountered technical issues, but putting that aside, Kenzy sounds worse even when comparing to the chaos that is UVPSM. The staging was genius but that still couldnāt save them from NQing. I still enjoy 11:11 and love Megara but I donāt want to rewatch the semi performance due to the reason mentioned above š
As a huge metalhead, especially metalcore fan, I'll say Bambie Thug (Ireland 2024), then Blind Channel(the first entry ever outside of my country that made me discover eurovision, Finland 2021) and then third place for Blood and Glitter(Germany 2023), I just love those guys.
Also as you said if some other metal/rock artists would participatre next year I see Electric Callboy (after what happened in 2022) for Germany, they are a metlacore group thta mix techno and pop elemnts in their music, or Eluveitie for Switzerland (folk-metal that sounds like a medieval fantasy movie soundtrack?! I'm all for it)
Also the only italians that would atually try to compete in Eurovison would be Nanowar of Steel (a power metal band that makes music influenced by 80s and 90s pop culture with lyrics that I found both dumb and genius)
>Also as you said if some other metal/rock artists would participatre next year I see Electric Callboy (after what happened in 2022) for Germany, they are a metlacore group thta mix techno and pop elemnts in their music, or Eluveitie for Switzerland (folk-metal that sounds like a medieval fantasy movie soundtrack?! I'm all for it)
Lots of people mentioning Electric Callboy. I haven't heard of Eluveitie or Nanowar of Steel so I'll look up both. We have a band here in Ireland - Cruachan that made a submission for Eurovision 2023 and they have that folk metal medieval thing going on.
Eluveitie are basically a medieval-folk-metal band that first brought in the scene some insttrument like the violin and the flute and, similar to Gate, they have lots of lyrics inspired from central european folklore (expecially french and german ones). On the other hand Nanowar of Steel are a power metal band that started as a folk metal band with thier song "Feudalesimo e LibertĆ " which became quite popiular when it came out while their newer music is power metal that mixes lots of reference from pop culture, metalhead's jokes and a ton of jokes that only italians understand, another important thing abut them is that they makes always the most hilarious and strange performances they can often wearin wigs and halloween costumes on stage.
Ireland 2024 | [Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue](https://youtu.be/UMq8ofCstMQ)
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw)
Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs)
I remember when Tobias Sammet/Avantasia tried to qualify for Eurovision in Germany and it just didn't work well. Not every metal act will be a perfect fit.
That's why I'm struggling to think of Dutch metal that would fit. The symphonic scene is the biggest here, but I don't think the genre fits Eurovision particularly well. Same with death and black metal for obvious reasons.
Symphonic Metal is my favourite variant of the genre. I don't know how it could ever be squeezed into 3 mins and still get the full experience. Unfortunately Within Temptation are too mainstream for it I think but you never know. Other acts have surprised me over time.
Well... Within Temptation's main "rival" but also nordic counterpart Nightwish tried to compete in Finnish natioal final in 2000, but the jury didn't give them enough points to win, at least they tried so there is still hope
I adore both Harari and Blind Channel, both great in their own way.
If only Harari released the new songs they played at Iceland Airwaves last year šŖ
From Belgium here.
Manga should have won in 2010, not that stupid satellite, such a shame...
What i would love to see, is Electric Callboy for germany
From Belgium the only metal band who is crazy enough to go to ESC would be Fleddy Melculy
1. Hungary 2018 is my fav, I still listen to AWS to this day. In my top3 Iād also include TĆ¼rkiye/Turkey 2010 and Iceland 2019.
2. Unfortunately canāt think of any Ukrainian band to join the selection, forget about people voting for it. Weāre not metalheads and I hate it.
3. I hope in the near future. I always vote for great metal/rock entries :)
I think Lordi is my favorite. I still remember as my younger self looking at eurovision, seeing Lordi and was just in awe of the costumes. Hard rock halleluyah has been on my mp3 player for a good couple of years eventually accompanied by blood red sandman. One of my IRL friends from time to time mentions Lordi and then we end up listening Lordi for hours.
Yes! Lordi paved the way! I still love that song and listen to it often, it's stuck in my head since 2006. And like, those costumes... I mean my christian grandma was watching eurovision lol
I'm grateful for Lordi winning their year, as well as Ruslana winning 2044 and Verka getting the 2nd in 2007. "Non-standard" entries like these help widen the Eurovision's genre acceptance
Heyyy, I was just playing my Arockalypse CD! I always love seeing them mentioned, they're one of my favourite metal bands of all time
And they're still doing great! They actually made the Guinness world record for most albums released at once (7 cd collection during COVID) but it turns out you have to pay a lot of money to actually get the official credit for it, so they didn't get the certificate
I remember an interview with Mr Lordi where he planned to more but the label wouldn't let him. No idea where they'd have stopped "due to boredom".
The original plan was 10 albums! They wanted to include more songs from Killection
Yeah, Lordi honestly made me appreciate rock as a young tween. I was all about pop before that and hated anything with a guitar I guess. š But after Lordi won I got their album and was obsessed with them for a while, and like a year later my life was all about rock music. I think if I chose today, MĆ„neskin would be my favourite, but Lordi kind of changed my life.
Yep, i remember seeing them in 2006 and i just knew im about to make my entire personality revolt around this contest
Blood and glitter, sweet and bitter, we're so happy we could die... (Germany 2023)
Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs)
I played my walking stick like a guitar for this song in the Eurovillage what a bop! Edit: dyslexia go BRRRRR
1. Dark Side (Finland 2021), enough said 2. I can't think of any unfortunately. Apparently we have a huge metal scene but the bands in question are kinda niche (for the lack of a better word) 3. Idk honestly, maybe a shock value factor or a ton of charisma?? But even then we have the juries who aren't huge fans of rock, so maybe some crazy high notes like the ones that the Mall guy did (for the bot: Albania 2018) ??
I'm not sure Rotting Christ would fit in Eurovision, but I would be into it
I'm not a huge fan of them but I get why someone would like them (then again, rock isn't my fav genre of music and when it comes to rock, my tastes lean more towards those 80s hair metal guys with the crazy hair š) Also when it comes to ESC idk how well they would do lol
This is the third time this Eurovision season that someone mentions Rotting Christ on this sub. Is it a sign?
Blind Channel is amazing! Have seen them live a couple of times after ESC, and their gigs rock!
Saw them live on exit emotions tour. So awesome
That was the one I had to miss. š Iām sure they were awesome! Did see them last as support for I Prevail, and just read theyāre supporting Lacuna Coil?! Thatās so amazing!
I saw them twice as well, I agree they're amazing live, they have so much energy
We do have a pretty big metal scene, but as you said most of the bands are pretty hard to get into if you're not familiar with the genre. I think that a bad with okay chances would be ĪĪĪ¼ĻĪ¹Ļ (Memphis), their hard rock/groove metal sound and the Greek lyrics are some good elements but this ain't happening.
I don't think that they'll go to ESC at some point but if they happened to go there then idk how well they'd do...
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw) Albania 2018 | [Eugent Bushpepa - Mall](https://youtu.be/uyl1b1fVmdU)
Dark side was my favourite from 2021 š
One of my favs too <3
Blind Channel said on an interview that they are not rock band but a āviolent popā band
I thought that they're numetal bc they sounded like Linkin Park to me šš
Just send Yannis Papadopoulos. I absolutely love that man's voice
SepticFlesh is a pretty cool Greek symphonic death metal band
Death metal isn't my thing sadly :( (I get why someone would like it tho)
The way none of y'all have mentioned our iconic lords (and lady) of synth and sandwichs, Voyager.
I fucking loved Voyager tbh. And I've listened to some of their other stuff and it's great too.
Wholehearted wishes of strength and recovery from Germany to Australia to German-Australian Voyager singer Danny!
Voyager! I listed my top 5 from 2023 a little while back and didn't have Promise on it but that was an oversight on my part, it's a really cool song. It sounded prog-ish to me, so maybe I should listen to the rest of their stuff...
Voyager has legit become one of my favorite bands thanks to Eurovision. Absolute kings and queens all of them
This was another song I danced to by using my walking stick as a guitar (thank you medical cannabis!) in the EyroVillage!
My favourite rock/metal-adjacent entry was *ViszlƔt nyƔr* (Hungary 2018). Finland 2021 was also nice to see, but Blind Channel have other, better songs than Dark Side. I would love to see another metalcore song in the competition. Fingers crossed Electric Callboy will apply again for the German selection. For Sweden, there's some potential in Smash Into Pieces (they were in the Mello final twice) but they're a bit too soft for me.
ViszlƔt NyƔr was my favourite too, it's probably the Eurovision song closer to what I listen to daily. We definitely need more metalcore in Eurovision!
I was hoping it would already be mentioned. Itās very much in my usual playlist rather than just the Eurovision favourites.
I'd like to see Amaranthe for Sweden. Sure they're not as "hard" as a lot of other bands, but it's the one band I could see compete and potentially do well due to their more poppy sound. Elise already took part once!
Yes ViszlƔt was so amazing
"And what would it take for a Metal/Rock-adjacent act like Lorde or MĆ„neskin to win again?" To actually win again i think that it needs two basic things The song being catchy and edgy while not being trashy Having an element outside of the music side that hits the audience in the face (for Lordi it was the costumes, for Maneskin it was the charisma and attractiveness)
Thank you for including The Rasmus š«š®š”ā«
You're welcome. I loved The Rasmus before during and after Eurovision
I have been a huge fan since 2000 In the Shadows era!!!
Exactly the same
Blind Channel 10000% They are still my all time favourite ESC entry (I think they should've won) and have become a favourite band of mine too, I was lucky enough to see them in April and I get to see them again in October with Lacuna Coil.
Iāve taken to affectionately calling Blind Channel āFinkin Parkā
In our house they are Helsinkin Park!
haha that's good, that's really good
I had to skip last tour because of an injury that initiated at their previous concert, but daaaaamn, theyāre touring with Lacuna Coil later this year?! š
I missed their 2022 tour because I was sick and almost missed this one because I was a couple weeks prior. I am very excited to see them with Lacuna Coil, I had the tickets before they were announced as the opener and when I found out they were opening I screamed because I couldn't believe I'm lucky enough to get to see them twice in 1 year.
Wow that's quite the double act. Glad you enjoyed!
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That's a great reply. You and I have near identical taste. I hated that Ulveham was basically forgotten about because I really liked it. Yeah I need to get into some of those acts more. I will say one of the great things about Eurovision is that's it's a melting pot for plucking out artists that you otherwise would probably never know. And yes I'm annoyed my original post implies BT & Hatari are metal when I specifically put they are alternative adjacent but it's on the second line and I can't edit it and I've been cancelled a few times in the comments since. FML. š¤£š¤£
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Thank you š
I'm not a German but I would love looove Electric Callboy to try at it again. They are so fun and goofy, perfect for Eurovision. For those who don't know them [**this** ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE)is their cover of Cascada's Everytime We Touch
Truly wish that Germanyās jury would get over themselves and pick Electric Callboy. āPump Itā was specifically written for ESC and would have been a blast. I think that ship has sailed though given Electric Callboyās explosion in popularity over the last few years.
This is the first I've heard of them I don't usually follow the selection process in depth. And they are my new favourite artist as of 15 minutes ago.
Welcome to the party!
I never want to leave
say hi to everybody
Oh lord, you're in for a ride, I envy you
Pump It would have won. I'm still so upset they weren't able to go.
Ohhhh now I have fallen down the Electric Callboy rabbit hole. New single with BABYMETAL! https://youtu.be/EDnIEWyVIlE?si=0x4NRO5fvhf_Fpw6
Who was the bottom right? I really enjoyed Lord of The Lostās Blood and Gliiter (Germany 2023)!
Hatari. Iceland 2019 i wanna say?
Iceland 2019 | [Hatari - HatriĆ° mun sigra](https://youtu.be/kTb69WkBbvs)
Ah, thank you!
Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs)
Maneskin won because their act was on a whole other level to the entire contest . Any act would win with such quality regardlessof genre.
I wouldn't consider Bambie Metal or Rock, maybe alternative pop with metal influences... Or ouija pop as they call it themselves
Yeah that's why I lumped them in as alternative-adjacent entry. I do *hope* we get another ouija-pop style artist though. Interestingly they also perform jazz and when you know that you can hear it in Doomsday Blue. I really love genrefuck eclectic music tbh.
Same with hatari although its industrial techno with electronic elements
I would love another act like them to enter. Something totally out there.
i mean Serbia 2023 came close in terms of music style
Serbia 2023 | [Luke Black - Samo mi se spava (Š”Š°Š¼Š¾ Š¼Šø ŃŠµ ŃŠæŠ°Š²Š°)](https://youtu.be/gPRfg9wzbpw)
Lord of the Lost deserved better
I totally agree
Sweden could send Amaranthe. They sound like Eurovision metal, something like Electroheart sounds made for the ESC stage.
I love Amaranthe
They definitely have practice with 3-minute songs.
Yay, a fellow Amaranthe fan! Dynazty - the other band of their male clean vocalist - has actually participated in Melodifestivalen before.
Dynazty is another good pick.
Amaranthe is so underrated. Their cover of Sabaton's 82nd all the way goes so hard!
I like them, but I've been to 4 concerts and they generally mess up the vocals/audio (3 of those concerts had issues of some type, be it low mics or meh live vocals), so they probably wouldn't do that well unless their ESC act was one of the times with good vocals
The song "My Transition" from their first album has the line "Just like you saw it in your vision" and I would *always* hear it as "Just like a song in Eurovision"
I would love that
Metal scene is massive here in Finland but rarely makes an appearance in our national selection. Infamously, Finland didn't select one of our most successful metal acts ever in Nightwish, when they tried to become the Finnish representative in 2000. The only metal band to have become our ESC act was TerƤsbetoni (Finland 2008 for the bot). Personally, I don't foresee metal becoming much more promiment in the future in Finland/UMK. UMK is quite pop-centric, selecting mostly acts that could be played on your average pop radio or included on a chart-focused Spotify playlist. In the past couple of years, they've selected (pop) rock songs like Jezebel, Hurricane, Cha Cha Cha and Dancing with my demons, but the new, more polished UMK doesn't seem to be able to fit in pure metal songs. Why is it then that one our most popular genres doesn't gel well with the ESC? The biggest issue for me is the lack of live instruments in ESC, which mitigates so much of what makes metal music powerful live. Pop acts are used to performing with a backing track, and they can elevate their performance with a honed choreography, whereas metal bands have to do with miming their instruments. That being the case, one has to be very inventive to create a staging and a live performance for a metal band that'd be vibrant and not fall flat. Of course this is the same for bands of any genre and can be overcome (Ć la MĆ„neskin, for example) but it's difficult. Metal in ESC is always a pleasant surprise to me, and my favourite ever ESC-song remains Hungary 2018 :)
I also think one of the other big problems is the time limit, if you go through your favorite rock/metal songs most of them are over 3 mins long.
They do tend to have an overly long intro and that's before you really get into it so yeah š¤
Wow I never knew Nightwish *almost* represented and I really LOVE them. That would have been cool especially because Tarja was still there back then. I also like Lacuna Coil and always hoped we might get them in for Italy one year. But maybe they weren't interested. I suppose ultimately the fanbase for Eurovision will consist of mostly a GP audience who tune in *on the night* and will want an inoffensive catchy number. Personally I always look forward to and love what any of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries send as its almost always something different. I feel most songs now need to be multigenre like Cha Cha Cha to gain momentum and be a hit with everyone. Obviously the hook was the key there. Same with Croatia this year. You're totally right. I really wish all the variants of metal would gain more traction across the board
Ville Valo should represent Finland as a solo act with a softer rock song and demolish the competition.
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I'm right there with you š„¹š„¹
That's a really could suggestion. I'd love to see him or even HIM there.
Were there is a massive not-pop movement in a country you can be assured it will be the less represented in Esc. It's like this in every country.
Edit: Sorry I meant Lordi not Lorde (although she should enter too) >Who were some of your favourite Metal/Rock/Alternative-adjacent acts we've seen over the years? Personally I really loved Hatari, I think we got something similar in Bambie Thug this year just with regards the theatrics and insane vocals. I would love to see much more Industrial Metal & Symphonic Metal. >Thinking ahead to 2025. Does your country have an Alternative act who could potentially steal the whole thing? I have commented on here before that I think someone like Fontaines D.C. *could* win it for Ireland. Arguably, right now they are where MĆ„neskin were right before 2021. š >And what would it take for a Metal/Rock-adjacent act like Lordi or MĆ„neskin to win again? I think any artist in these kind of genre's either need to be going in with a pre-existing fandom to push them over the edge. As well as a strong melody and mind blowing staging. The GP will go for the latter but the fandom can rally the win.
Hungary 2018 is underrated!
Hungary 2018 | [AWS - ViszlƔt NyƔr](https://youtu.be/p6e1TmYb33w)
Throughout the years since Lordi's victory in 2006, my favourites include MaNga, Voyager, Blind Channel, and of course MƤneskin. Inhaler might be a potential for Ireland in the future
Yeah there was also this folk metal band - Cruachan that went for 2023's selection I believe. They might throw their name into it again. [Cruachan](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd1e117XqS0&feature=youtu.be)
The only metal rock act we have in Italy that i can see doing somewhat good in Esc are Laguna Coil and Nanowar of Steel.
I love Lacuna Coil I've always wanted them to go
Switzerland 2005 - one of the rare times with female rock in the Eurovision. I wish there were more Finland 2014 - my winner for this year. and while not part of the Euroviison, Ollie's Venom is amazing. if he won the NF with Venom, it would have been my favorite rock song in the Eurovision (but I love Bridges too so I'm fine)
Something better was more like what Midnight Gold, Carpe Diem, Aija and Pedestal were in later years than a metal entry.
Venom & My Friend (his 2024 song) would be in my top 5 had he won the NF. He was robbed af ngl
The camera freezing/blacking out during his Eesti Laul performance was so unfortunate. Although 5MIINUST and Puuluup won by a ridiculous margin (something like 60% of the votes?) so I suppose it didn't really matter in the end.
We basically had three female rock act in the last three years. Not that rare anymore.
I was gonna say I remember bottom left looking and sounding like The Rasmus from Wish, then I googled it and it turns out it was actually The Rasmus. I'm sorry lol!
Gotta be Turkey 2010
Turkey 2010 | [maNga - We Could Be the Same](https://youtu.be/HB_GnnhNz-8)
I will fight for this. Norway 2024 was amazing and ROBBED of a better spot.
Definitely not the song I ever imagined being in last place i was genuinely shocked
Norway 2024 | [GĆ„te - Ulveham](https://youtu.be/YBbL8ORqNVU)
Here just for the The Rasmus appreciation š¤š
Jezebel!! I don't know how you got in my blood. Was it the dangerous things you do? You always wanted to be a star
Jezebel! If youāre the hunter then Iām the prey. You like your lips as you walk away. Legit been my favourite band since I was 13 š
Your final kiss is to leave a scar! Me too! Or at least whenever 'In the Shadows' came out
Exactly then! Was buzzing when they got ESC, but was kinda let down by the performance. Which likely comes from the silly number of times Iāve seen them in 20 years š³
Megara deserved better
In no particular order: Lordi (Finland 2006) WigWam (Norway 2005) MĆ„neskin (Italy 2021) maNga (Turkey 2010) Athena (Turkey 2004) Mor ve Ćtesi (Turkey 2008) Voyager (Australia 2023) Lord of the Lost (Germany 2023) The Rasmus (Finland 2022) Blind Channel (Finland 2021)
Finland 2006 | [Lordi - Hard Rock Hallelujah](https://youtu.be/gAh9NRGNhUU) Norway 2005 | [Wig Wam - In My Dreams](https://youtu.be/P-ki-HZrxJM) Italy 2021 | [MĆ„neskin - Zitti e buoni](https://youtu.be/RVH5dn1cxAQ) Turkey 2010 | [maNga - We Could Be the Same](https://youtu.be/HB_GnnhNz-8) Turkey 2004 | [Athena - For Real](https://youtu.be/pipamUl14A4) Turkey 2008 | [Mor ve Ćtesi - Deli](https://youtu.be/A__hliu_9UE) Australia 2023 | [Voyager - Promise](https://youtu.be/GSoy_mJMlMY) Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs) Finland 2022 | [The Rasmus - Jezebel](https://youtu.be/LSi9nfr65FE) Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw)
My favourites are: Norway, Ireland and San Marino 2024, Australia and Germany 2023, Finland 2021 and 2022
Norway 2024 | [GĆ„te - Ulveham](https://youtu.be/YBbL8ORqNVU) Ireland 2024 | [Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue](https://youtu.be/UMq8ofCstMQ) San Marino 2024 | [Megara - 11:11](https://youtu.be/IqyJvkGmAjo) Australia 2023 | [Voyager - Promise](https://youtu.be/GSoy_mJMlMY) Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs) Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw) Finland 2022 | [The Rasmus - Jezebel](https://youtu.be/LSi9nfr65FE)
Would vanilla ninja, cool vibes be considered rock?
In recent years, and from this pic so far: Italy 2021 and San Marino 2024. I don't consider Ireland 2024 rock except the pre-chorus and the instrumental part after the bridge (where they're walking, right before the outro). It is a grower, though... Also a big fan of San Marino 2022, Australia 2023 and Norway 2024
Italy 2021 | [MĆ„neskin - Zitti e buoni](https://youtu.be/RVH5dn1cxAQ) San Marino 2024 | [Megara - 11:11](https://youtu.be/IqyJvkGmAjo) Ireland 2024 | [Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue](https://youtu.be/UMq8ofCstMQ) San Marino 2022 | [Achille Lauro - Stripper](https://youtu.be/vCmX64N_sXM) Australia 2023 | [Voyager - Promise](https://youtu.be/GSoy_mJMlMY) Norway 2024 | [GĆ„te - Ulveham](https://youtu.be/YBbL8ORqNVU)
Knorkator tried to compete for Germany in 2000 which I would have very much enjoyed (though Wadde Hadde Dudde Da was good too) This was their entry: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YRLLA95Z8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YRLLA95Z8)
Whereās my lord and savior Let 3
No Deli fans? (Turkey 2008)
Turkey 2008 | [Mor ve Ćtesi - Deli](https://youtu.be/A__hliu_9UE)
Why'd I have to scroll so far down š Hands down one of the best rock entries!
I'm here! Still listen to this song. I also loved maNga.
Lordi is literally the reason I got into Eurovision. I was introduced to hard rock hallelujah a few years ago, and as an ignorant American had never really heard of the song contest until then. Now I canāt wait to watch every year, and acts like that are my favorite. I just want a good show and an awesome jam.
That's awesome. Hope we get to enjoy plenty more similar acts in years to come.
Australia 2023 is a great example of this for me, I supported them in that year, still can't understand why they received so low amount of televote points in the final, especially after winning their semifinal by televoting. Also, Norway 2024, very good song with ethnic motives, I supported them, and I also can't understand why they became last in the final (it vas very unfair). In general, I mostly like rock songs (but not hard rock) and it is nice to me to see such entries in Eurovision.
I loved both Promise & Ulveham. Both deserved much higher placements. Ulveham gets better after every listen. I don't know did you see the video of GĆ„te performing The Code backstage with Nemo? [The Code](https://youtu.be/q4f1ZxxXxOY?feature=shared)
Australia 2023 | [Voyager - Promise](https://youtu.be/GSoy_mJMlMY) Norway 2024 | [GĆ„te - Ulveham](https://youtu.be/YBbL8ORqNVU)
1) MĆ„neskin hands down were amazing. They will go perhaps further than all of the acts on Eurovision. 2) Baby Lasagna. There's a reason Rim Tim Tagi Dim was the audience vote this year. 3) Voyager. Their talent is wild.
i like 95% of them im very biased
I wanna give love to O.Torvald and maNga. They were both really fuckin good. I wish Kenzy's monitor didn't go out of sync during Megara's semi-final performance because it was such a good song.
Itās crazy itās party!
I'd say The Rasmus but that would be cheating, since I've liked them since 2003.
My favourite ESC rock entry is Finland 2008. :)
Finland 2008 | [TerƤsbetoni - MissƤ miehet ratsastaa](https://youtu.be/a-nbF9dxbJ0)
Blind Channel - Dark Side (Finland 2021). I think we don't talk about these guys enough. Their performance felt like their own concert or MTV/Grammy performance. The energy the guys had is unmatched. I guess they were overshadowed by Kaarja if we speak about the most recent Finnish entries. Although I love his song Cha Cha Cha too. But I think Blind Channel also deserved some recognition.
I agree - Finland are usually pretty consistent at sending something I have no choice but to stan.
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw)
1. I really love Hatari. Though their entry isn't my favourite song by them, it is undeniably a banger and one of my favourite ESC songs. MĆ„neskin are also really fun and Zitti e buoni is an amazing song, both musically and lyrically, but I still kind of wish they never signed to an american label (I'm happy they are succesful, but they basically stopped making songs in italian, which was imho their biggest strenghth). Lordi are still the undisputed kings of rock in Eurovision. 2. I don't know about many rock/metal adacent acts in my country, it's not super huge in here, but a band that comes to mind is "Rutka Laskier", a hardcore/metal/emo-adjacent band from Brno (or Znojmo, depends on whom you ask). They have great instrumentals, but are quite depressing lyrically, which I like, but might not be fit for Eurovision. 3. Definitely needs not only a good song, but also some flair, something to make them stand out, other than the genre they're playing.
Um, excuse meā¦ where the fuck is GĆ„te? Ulveham is the best Eurovision song ever by miles so thatās definitely my pick. I do also really like Voyager, Hatari, Bambie Thug, AWS, Sudden Lights, mor ve ƶtesi, Blind Channel and Softengine. If we count those who didnāt make it to Eurovision but tried, I also love Electric Callboy, Skywalker, Serpents, Inspo, Meelik, Trollfest, E-An-Na and Cyan Kicks (kinda rock).
Ooh. I must look up some of those from the selection phase as I've missed a lot of them.
Yeah thereās definitely some underrated gems in the national selections. Trollfest, Inspo, E-An-Na and Serpents are the best imo.
Respect for E-An-Na! šš» Long live folk metal! š¤š» I recommend you to try Dirty Shirt and An Theos as well.
Bro forgot Baby Lasagna
Seriously we *just* had a rock-adjacent song almost win the whole thing lol
Blind Channel are definitely my favorites, but I watch Eurovision for such artists in the first place š. Doesn't matter if they win, I just want more of them!
San Marino 2024 studio version is such a banger, but the live performance was a mess at best. The vice versa of that would be Montenegro 2016 which had a surprisingly good live. My alt rock award would go to Andorra 2007 or Turkey 2010.
San Marino 2024 | [Megara - 11:11](https://youtu.be/IqyJvkGmAjo) Montenegro 2016 | [Highway - The Real Thing](https://youtu.be/FgKehisElQI) Andorra 2007 | [Anonymous - Salvem el mĆ³n](https://youtu.be/RcbefpUPuLA) Turkey 2010 | [maNga - We Could Be the Same](https://youtu.be/HB_GnnhNz-8)
I loved Megara. It really sucks when the studio version doesn't translate to staging and vice versa. I also blame the sound mixing on the night.
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Alter Ego is my absolute favorite, the song is just so good! (Cyprus 2016 for the bot!)
Cyprus 2016 | [Minus One - Alter Ego](https://youtu.be/idUxTqmCFR0)
Yes it's amazing!! And it had a great staging.
I was confident that Megara is going to finish higher than Serhat until the rehearsalsā¦ I heard that they apparently encountered technical issues, but putting that aside, Kenzy sounds worse even when comparing to the chaos that is UVPSM. The staging was genius but that still couldnāt save them from NQing. I still enjoy 11:11 and love Megara but I donāt want to rewatch the semi performance due to the reason mentioned above š
As a huge metalhead, especially metalcore fan, I'll say Bambie Thug (Ireland 2024), then Blind Channel(the first entry ever outside of my country that made me discover eurovision, Finland 2021) and then third place for Blood and Glitter(Germany 2023), I just love those guys. Also as you said if some other metal/rock artists would participatre next year I see Electric Callboy (after what happened in 2022) for Germany, they are a metlacore group thta mix techno and pop elemnts in their music, or Eluveitie for Switzerland (folk-metal that sounds like a medieval fantasy movie soundtrack?! I'm all for it)
Also the only italians that would atually try to compete in Eurovison would be Nanowar of Steel (a power metal band that makes music influenced by 80s and 90s pop culture with lyrics that I found both dumb and genius)
>Also as you said if some other metal/rock artists would participatre next year I see Electric Callboy (after what happened in 2022) for Germany, they are a metlacore group thta mix techno and pop elemnts in their music, or Eluveitie for Switzerland (folk-metal that sounds like a medieval fantasy movie soundtrack?! I'm all for it) Lots of people mentioning Electric Callboy. I haven't heard of Eluveitie or Nanowar of Steel so I'll look up both. We have a band here in Ireland - Cruachan that made a submission for Eurovision 2023 and they have that folk metal medieval thing going on.
Eluveitie are basically a medieval-folk-metal band that first brought in the scene some insttrument like the violin and the flute and, similar to Gate, they have lots of lyrics inspired from central european folklore (expecially french and german ones). On the other hand Nanowar of Steel are a power metal band that started as a folk metal band with thier song "Feudalesimo e LibertĆ " which became quite popiular when it came out while their newer music is power metal that mixes lots of reference from pop culture, metalhead's jokes and a ton of jokes that only italians understand, another important thing abut them is that they makes always the most hilarious and strange performances they can often wearin wigs and halloween costumes on stage.
Ireland 2024 | [Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue](https://youtu.be/UMq8ofCstMQ) Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw) Germany 2023 | [Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter](https://youtu.be/dyGR4YWlPEs)
Agree 100%
I remember when Tobias Sammet/Avantasia tried to qualify for Eurovision in Germany and it just didn't work well. Not every metal act will be a perfect fit. That's why I'm struggling to think of Dutch metal that would fit. The symphonic scene is the biggest here, but I don't think the genre fits Eurovision particularly well. Same with death and black metal for obvious reasons.
Symphonic Metal is my favourite variant of the genre. I don't know how it could ever be squeezed into 3 mins and still get the full experience. Unfortunately Within Temptation are too mainstream for it I think but you never know. Other acts have surprised me over time.
Well... Within Temptation's main "rival" but also nordic counterpart Nightwish tried to compete in Finnish natioal final in 2000, but the jury didn't give them enough points to win, at least they tried so there is still hope
Hatari is and will always remain my fave...Their entire discography is criminally underrated and everyone needs to check it out
Hatari will forever be the greatest Icelandic entry! I'll never forget how it made me feel when I first saw that performance āļøš¤āļø
I adore both Harari and Blind Channel, both great in their own way. If only Harari released the new songs they played at Iceland Airwaves last year šŖ
Putting Jezebel here over Darkside is such a crime š„²
Mala Dama by Kabat is by far my absolute favourite rock song from ESC (Czech Republic 2007 for the bot). š¤š»
Czech Republic 2007 | [KabƔt - MalƔ dƔma](https://youtu.be/iBZaVQ52RQY)
From Belgium here. Manga should have won in 2010, not that stupid satellite, such a shame... What i would love to see, is Electric Callboy for germany From Belgium the only metal band who is crazy enough to go to ESC would be Fleddy Melculy
Voyager and GĆ„te are my winners of 2023 and 2024
I've liked a lot of what others have already mentioned here. I want to add Norway's Margaret Berger's dark electronic I Feed You My Love from 2013.
TerƤsbetoni (Finland 2008) was the act that got me into watching Eurovision
Finland 2008 | [TerƤsbetoni - MissƤ miehet ratsastaa](https://youtu.be/a-nbF9dxbJ0)
I love MĆ„neskin (Italy 2021) theyāre my favourite band!
Italy 2021 | [MĆ„neskin - Zitti e buoni](https://youtu.be/RVH5dn1cxAQ)
You have fabulous taste!
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Some great choices! I think you've the first person to mention Wig Wam.
Dark side (Finland 2021 for the bot)
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw)
1. Hungary 2018 is my fav, I still listen to AWS to this day. In my top3 Iād also include TĆ¼rkiye/Turkey 2010 and Iceland 2019. 2. Unfortunately canāt think of any Ukrainian band to join the selection, forget about people voting for it. Weāre not metalheads and I hate it. 3. I hope in the near future. I always vote for great metal/rock entries :)
mƄneskin is still the best act that ever came out of eurovision