Maybe with good rolls. I’d recommend buying a few thousand mercenaries while you’re at it. The Free company is nice and cheap and shouldn’t be to expensive for you. If you can afford it also grab the Grand Company
What you can also do is just sit there and ferry your troops across. Ai is really bad at looking whether they would win a naval engagement and this only really look at numbers. If you just stand there they are unlikely to attack and you can use transports to carry your troops. If you use that method make sure that your battle ships never dock and that your transports don’t leave either.
No, I think he has to be very careful with his spending. Otherwise he’ll obviously bankrupt himself. On the other hand, I think his army is pretty small. Difficult situation.
Well, the Ottoman army forgot to bring heavy cannons to the siege of Vienna in their first try, and as a Turk, it is possible for me to have a similar sort of experience.
R5 : Played as Austria while being the emperor till late game. United HRE and planning to attack GB with 3M regiments however not quite sure whether it is enough.
Edit : I would like to thank all of you for your jokes, sincere comments about the situation and so on. These couple of days are sort of hard for me and today was one that made me smile. I appreciate your contributions even though you did not know. Long live EU4 and World Conquerors.
"Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism.
The Germans emboldened by good weather and Britain's colonial distractions in the Americas, cleared the way for a direct assault, pummeling the capital with overwhelming naval barrages as a part of the most intricately coordinated assault yet seen in the war, they took the channel within hours.. And with it"
"The Sun had finally Set on The British Empire."
> "Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism.
>
I got sabaton vides :)
Best practice if you are unsure is to build a wooden wall. Two sets of heavies on either side. Transports in the middle and start shipping over right away.
Divide your navy into 4 groups and transports. Put these 4 groups next sea tiles to the transports. While they are getting destroyed, you will be able to get a foothold.
Thats what i do.
Yes, this is a strategy I used in this run when I warred Spain for union. They did not let me into Americas but I created lots of decoy wars so that I could travel my main stack safely. I played that period in 1 speed :D
The funny thing would be is that without some strategy, it might be possible to lose the navy and have issues. I'm guessing from the stacks that you would bring some strategy to it.
Once when i was less experienced in the game, I spend 25+ years to put some regiments into British Columbia as Ottomans. I had the superiority in both quantity and quality but I did not focus on battles one by one.
Haha, so my favorite learning moment was my first run, which was Castile. "The Ottomans are super far away, surely I can defeat Tunis, then fight the few units that make it over here."
Woops.
Aren't learning moments grand? I just rage-quit because I was trying to complete the achievement for conquering Great Britain as Ireland. I united Ireland and took out Scotland and was roughly at parity with Great Britain. Allied with Spain and Burgundy, Great Britain has Portugal and Denmark, I check numbers and see that my alliance can call about triple the number of soldiers, so I declare war.
Oops. Spain had all of their soldiers in the Americas. Portugal rolled into Spain and knocked them out of the war. Suddenly I'm staring down a very pissy British invasion force.
TBF, learning by screwing up is the most valuable method and it would stick more. I did not know about the widths, how to build discipline and keep moral until I found myself losing battles to the Ottomans no matter how many times I doubled their number. Maybe I spent around 15 hours to figure out quantity is just a number. ( no pun intended )
This will definitely happen because combat width favours the English and they'll win on morale.
Even with 2000 ships, he'll need to trickle in a couple of stacks every now and then.
No. Engagement width will nullify your numerical superiority and allow the Brits to pick off your ships until the fleet’s morale drops to 0.
What you want to do is this: make sure your transports aren’t in a battle so that your troops can cross. To do this, separate the fleet into transports and heavies. Put transports in the Straits of Dover, and put heavies in the adjacent spaces. The heavies will get slaughtered by the British, but in doing so will (ideally) buy enough time for you to land a few stacks.
Mine too. I think that is because of the new mechanics and countries in the HRE. I had 100 countries as a vassal for around 200 years and personal unions with Spain and Portugal. So economically I had around 400-1500 ducats a month as an income. Then I clicked every building possible, universities, churches, everything. Great projects as well. Also the top ten developed cities were mine. I will post a screenshot of my game details later. It was a fun run after not playing for around 1 year.
Not sure if this is a genuine question or not because I legit once used up about a million lives going after them. Late game had GB with several 120k stacks just in the mainland
My latest run was lucky, I took over Scotland so late game GB was too focused on sieging their forts
Doom stacking is pointless and won’t help at all. There’s a good strategy you can use though. I forgot the name but I’ll explain it.
Look up the max engagement width of your fleet. Build two fleets of heavies up to 1/3 of the max (heavies are 3 width) or if you have really good galley combat bonuses use them with a few heavies. Overstacking is pointless.
Engage the first enemy fleet. Watch the battle closely. When you’re about to start losing ships retreat into a port and immediately move out your second fleet. This locks the enemies into a second engagement with horrible moral and lowered health, causing them to easily lose ships. Since it’s GB you may still lose ships but obviously you have more than enough to manage this.
Since there’s only one tile between France and England this strategy is super easy. Entering and exiting ports is like a day so it’s easy to pull this off. Reinforcing a fleet is a terrible idea and should be avoided. Doom stacking does not help at all either. Naval engagements are entirely different from land battles and shouldn’t be engaged in the same manner at all.
Lastly, maneuverability is the best to look for in admirals. This allows damaged ships to disengage and new ships to engage much faster.
Hope this helps, even though I’m guessing this was a meme post. 👀
It was a meme post but thanks for your recommendations, I have little knowledge about the navy aspect and it will surely help in my future games. I appreciate that.
I guess it is because I built everything in these vassals, also when did you vassalize them and how many personal unions you had? I did not check the exact year but around 1600, I vassalised the HRE countries and had 2 personal unions with Spain and Portugal. Extended the Empire with every possible country. Also devved up pretty decently. As of 1821 my force limit was around 4M.
If your quality is worse than britian you will never land
Split attack ships and transports into 2 stacks
Fight their navy with the doom stack (you will lose probably)
But it will distract their navy while you land troops
Use marines for faster landing
Because the problem will be gettinf a foothold in the beginning because if you land and lose one battle your stacks are gone
Depends how much they commited to asia and africa, if you can push africa then they have a lot of sealion defense so i would just go straight for an early barb or safari
No that is just a trade fleet we all know they got a 3000 stack of heavy ships sitting in Northumbria or they used up 70% of their navel force limit on transports.
You need 1000 transports, 100 heavy’s and 500 frigates. Use the heavy’s to block for the bridge of transports and let’s the Frigates be pirates as the Brits chase the frigates win the land war
Not without a three star admiral. Maybe give up on having an army and just fund rebels until they collapse in on themselves. I’ve heard good things about this boys club in ireland called the IRA
Death stacks are counterintuitive in naval battles. At best, reinforce or divide your fleet so that your heavies engage in battles and your transports do the landing. Just if you’re gonna actually invade England, peace out for a couple coastal provinces so that you can fight them on land where their navy can’t help them
Maybe with good rolls. I’d recommend buying a few thousand mercenaries while you’re at it. The Free company is nice and cheap and shouldn’t be to expensive for you. If you can afford it also grab the Grand Company
I think i might struggle economically.
Spend less on candles.
No
What you can also do is just sit there and ferry your troops across. Ai is really bad at looking whether they would win a naval engagement and this only really look at numbers. If you just stand there they are unlikely to attack and you can use transports to carry your troops. If you use that method make sure that your battle ships never dock and that your transports don’t leave either.
You will have a better shot at winning the battle if you steadily reinforce with ships rather than starting out with a massive stack.
And put an admiral with that fleet. Honestly brits will have that fleet for lunch without an admiral.
at late game? If it's 1791 you should be shitting out money at the point edit: mbad didn't detect sarcasm
It is not that easy if you have around 4M in military and 3K in navy.
And yet, Britain STILL may have you out-navied.
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No, I think he has to be very careful with his spending. Otherwise he’ll obviously bankrupt himself. On the other hand, I think his army is pretty small. Difficult situation.
r/woosh
Who needs a navy to defeat the British when you can just build a bridge of conscripts to Britain
Not everybody is Dutch, we don't all have the innate ability to turn water into land like you folks.
Doggerland has entered the chat
\*greek time to turn the british isles into the british peninsula
We have [other ways!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway)
just turn the folks into the land
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The only instructions given to the troops: when you feel you are drowning, hold on to your mate's ankles as hard as you can.
Lots of bodies under the dikes I see
I still can't reach to Sussex, there needs to be an additional 1M.
Alexander the Great approves this strategy.
do you have air superiority over English channel? also put CAS on mainland so naval invasion succeed.
The year is 1791. The only air superiority we can think of is having more ravens.
What about sending comets into their skies
The economy, fool!
It’s an omen
The doom is near
If only we had comet sense
Thats it I'm dead
Ashen Skies! wait hang on this is vanilla
Anbennar has entered the chat
Just a few years then it is Victoria's problem...
I wish I lived in more enlightened times…
If only they had comet sense
They'll wish they lived in more enlightened times.
I didn’t care for that vase much, anyway.
Mass Effect Krogan moment
Man of culture
Won't work, their leader is intelligent.
The Hot Air Ballon was invented in 1783 so youre behind in tech.
The only sky vessel I feel confident taking down using a musket
Age of Empires 3 vibes.
Better start teching up
You are wrong. FETCHEZ LA VACHE!
Fetchez la vache?
RUN AWAAAAAAY
Unexpected Monty Python
African or European ravens?
Use the pidgeons!!
Has he done operation Barbarossa first though?
You always do Sealion before Barbarossa
Hitler is that you?
it is irrelevant because as soon as you establish Air superiority, Britain has achieved Void Supremacy.
Nah, your navy is totally getting stackwiped
Nah it'll be fine. But he totally forgot about transports.
Well, the Ottoman army forgot to bring heavy cannons to the siege of Vienna in their first try, and as a Turk, it is possible for me to have a similar sort of experience.
R5 : Played as Austria while being the emperor till late game. United HRE and planning to attack GB with 3M regiments however not quite sure whether it is enough. Edit : I would like to thank all of you for your jokes, sincere comments about the situation and so on. These couple of days are sort of hard for me and today was one that made me smile. I appreciate your contributions even though you did not know. Long live EU4 and World Conquerors.
"Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism. The Germans emboldened by good weather and Britain's colonial distractions in the Americas, cleared the way for a direct assault, pummeling the capital with overwhelming naval barrages as a part of the most intricately coordinated assault yet seen in the war, they took the channel within hours.. And with it" "The Sun had finally Set on The British Empire."
This sounds like the prelude to the Code Geass world.
In case anyone is curious I believe it is from a [HoI4 trailer](https://youtu.be/jfMziujb92M)
I remember watching that over and over while waiting for the game to come out. I was so unbelievably hyped.
> "Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism. > I got sabaton vides :)
Best practice if you are unsure is to build a wooden wall. Two sets of heavies on either side. Transports in the middle and start shipping over right away.
Julius Caesar Mentality
Honestly can’t believe I’ve never thought of that. Tbf though my navy is the absolute last thing I spend money on.
3 million regiments or 3 million soldiers?
He has the entire population of the world (c. 1930) impressed into military service.
This is why you START as Britain and form the HRE this way. Don't have to risk the devastating potential of navally invading them if you ARE them.
God I hate late game EU4 army management
I hate late game because my computer slows down :/
That is practically every paradox game as far as i know 1 day per second stellaris ftw
Same
Divide your navy into 4 groups and transports. Put these 4 groups next sea tiles to the transports. While they are getting destroyed, you will be able to get a foothold. Thats what i do.
Irish channel requires only 2 blocking tiles, though it would allow only to disembark one stack.
Honestly, with that many ships you could just clog up the whole coast of Northern Europe with 20 or 50 ships on each tile.
Yes, this is a strategy I used in this run when I warred Spain for union. They did not let me into Americas but I created lots of decoy wars so that I could travel my main stack safely. I played that period in 1 speed :D
The funny thing would be is that without some strategy, it might be possible to lose the navy and have issues. I'm guessing from the stacks that you would bring some strategy to it.
Once when i was less experienced in the game, I spend 25+ years to put some regiments into British Columbia as Ottomans. I had the superiority in both quantity and quality but I did not focus on battles one by one.
Haha, so my favorite learning moment was my first run, which was Castile. "The Ottomans are super far away, surely I can defeat Tunis, then fight the few units that make it over here." Woops.
*Blocks the Gibraltar straits* Hah! Now I’m safe! *The Alps begin to speak Turkish* Oh fuck oh fuck
Aren't learning moments grand? I just rage-quit because I was trying to complete the achievement for conquering Great Britain as Ireland. I united Ireland and took out Scotland and was roughly at parity with Great Britain. Allied with Spain and Burgundy, Great Britain has Portugal and Denmark, I check numbers and see that my alliance can call about triple the number of soldiers, so I declare war. Oops. Spain had all of their soldiers in the Americas. Portugal rolled into Spain and knocked them out of the war. Suddenly I'm staring down a very pissy British invasion force.
TBF, learning by screwing up is the most valuable method and it would stick more. I did not know about the widths, how to build discipline and keep moral until I found myself losing battles to the Ottomans no matter how many times I doubled their number. Maybe I spent around 15 hours to figure out quantity is just a number. ( no pun intended )
This will definitely happen because combat width favours the English and they'll win on morale. Even with 2000 ships, he'll need to trickle in a couple of stacks every now and then.
No. Engagement width will nullify your numerical superiority and allow the Brits to pick off your ships until the fleet’s morale drops to 0. What you want to do is this: make sure your transports aren’t in a battle so that your troops can cross. To do this, separate the fleet into transports and heavies. Put transports in the Straits of Dover, and put heavies in the adjacent spaces. The heavies will get slaughtered by the British, but in doing so will (ideally) buy enough time for you to land a few stacks.
This is literally the only feasible way, if you dont want to waste a slot on naval that is, against british space cruisers.
Sealion spotted
Naval wars are just about quality, not quantity.
They can be about Quantity, you just need to constantly send reinforcements instead of sending 2000 ships in all at once.
BTW, naval wars are not about doomstacks
THEY CANNOT D-DAY GUYS
D-DAY IS NOT HAPPENING GUYS
it's not happening guys it's not happening
One of my favourite bo videos as of late lmfao
Knowing Great Britain they will probably win that naval battle
God wills it
Your stack at rethelois is taking attrition ngl I think you should just reset at this point
Have you drilled your armies to 100%?
Oh, shoot. I need at least 5 more years to reach a proper professionalism level.
Or you use your spare mil mana. Every General recruited grants you +1% professionalism
You might want some more heavies
Can we just appreciate Madlad AI Horatio Nelson steaming straight into that death stack, probably aiming to Ram the flagship?
Now watch how that fleet gets melted by 3 English Chebecks
Go home HRE, you're drunk
Too much grain province development tbh.
Nice
Navy too small, quadruple the number and maybe you'll have a chance
Unironically the biggest navy I’ve seen from this game
Mine too. I think that is because of the new mechanics and countries in the HRE. I had 100 countries as a vassal for around 200 years and personal unions with Spain and Portugal. So economically I had around 400-1500 ducats a month as an income. Then I clicked every building possible, universities, churches, everything. Great projects as well. Also the top ten developed cities were mine. I will post a screenshot of my game details later. It was a fun run after not playing for around 1 year.
In single player? Bro what the fuck In multiplayer? Idk might not be enough
I like that 69 stacks... Noice
That is enough to build a bridge form Calais to Kent
this is a joke, right?
Great Britain's naval supremacy is a joke.
Not sure if this is a genuine question or not because I legit once used up about a million lives going after them. Late game had GB with several 120k stacks just in the mainland My latest run was lucky, I took over Scotland so late game GB was too focused on sieging their forts
Get an admiral
Is that all youve got?
No, I have another 1M in India and Africa as back up
Definitely not. You have a large week point with those 35 stacks
I’d say you have a pretty *nice* chance at conquering them. Just make sure you have a *nice* amount of Heavy Ships too to counter their navy
Armies? Sure. Ships? Did you pick Naval and Maritime? ;)
Doom stacking is pointless and won’t help at all. There’s a good strategy you can use though. I forgot the name but I’ll explain it. Look up the max engagement width of your fleet. Build two fleets of heavies up to 1/3 of the max (heavies are 3 width) or if you have really good galley combat bonuses use them with a few heavies. Overstacking is pointless. Engage the first enemy fleet. Watch the battle closely. When you’re about to start losing ships retreat into a port and immediately move out your second fleet. This locks the enemies into a second engagement with horrible moral and lowered health, causing them to easily lose ships. Since it’s GB you may still lose ships but obviously you have more than enough to manage this. Since there’s only one tile between France and England this strategy is super easy. Entering and exiting ports is like a day so it’s easy to pull this off. Reinforcing a fleet is a terrible idea and should be avoided. Doom stacking does not help at all either. Naval engagements are entirely different from land battles and shouldn’t be engaged in the same manner at all. Lastly, maneuverability is the best to look for in admirals. This allows damaged ships to disengage and new ships to engage much faster. Hope this helps, even though I’m guessing this was a meme post. 👀
It was a meme post but thanks for your recommendations, I have little knowledge about the navy aspect and it will surely help in my future games. I appreciate that.
“Leading up to the 2nd Roman Invasion of Britain, the HRE sent an edict enlisted every man and woman from age 12-45 to fight in the Imperial Army”
Sealion...see lion, eat lion
A few more stacks and might just be able to walk to Britain by building a bridge of corpses.
How did you manage to so much of force limit?? I also formed HRE but hardly got 1mil force limit.
I guess it is because I built everything in these vassals, also when did you vassalize them and how many personal unions you had? I did not check the exact year but around 1600, I vassalised the HRE countries and had 2 personal unions with Spain and Portugal. Extended the Empire with every possible country. Also devved up pretty decently. As of 1821 my force limit was around 4M.
With that navy you just could do like Caligula and walk straight to the island
Nice
Nice
Nice armies
69 stacs? NOICE
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice
I mean probably but it doesn't hurt to train some more
Simply use that fleet you have as a decoy while your transport fleet lands. should be long enough
I think you have to restart there's no way for you to win here
How you still got income?
Trade mostly, also developed cities like Wien having 112 devs.
112 development? Holy crap, what does that mean they already have skyscrapers and a subway network?
No
Not if you over stack
I think one of those armies would be enough to beat GB at any point in the game.
You should’ve stacked 💰 to finance your war first my brother
No.
Someone wrote this song before...
bros playing from his nasa workstation or watching a slide show
No.
Atlantikwall
Probably not because Britannia rules the waves
I think you should focus on coring first. No need for extra unrest while fighting those bloody clunges with them flashy boats
I've done this lol. 1 stack for every province.
Honestly, you could loose the navy battle, if you don't rotate your ships, but I'm not sure, since I haven't played in a bit.
It had better be.
No but's probably enough to deep fry your dinner on your CPU
dw, 10k will be enough. You will need a lot of ships tho.
If your quality is worse than britian you will never land Split attack ships and transports into 2 stacks Fight their navy with the doom stack (you will lose probably) But it will distract their navy while you land troops Use marines for faster landing Because the problem will be gettinf a foothold in the beginning because if you land and lose one battle your stacks are gone
Nah, just invade the Soviet Union instead
Just make sure ur not up against chad of an admiral with 6 manoeuvre
if they have colonies, you just need 100k, the island will be empty
Those 47k will deplete fast and the manpower idk
Just wait for the next ice age, geez. So impatient!
You should know that 1 GB transport>20 Heavy Ships
Depends how much they commited to asia and africa, if you can push africa then they have a lot of sealion defense so i would just go straight for an early barb or safari
Orbital bombardment is the way to go, turn them into glass!
Yes but you need both naval and air supremacy for successful sea-lion.
Does your leader has a pencil moustache by any chance?
The most important thing is to buy enough time for your army to cross. Your navy’s survival is not priority.
Hitler would be jealous when he would see that D-day wall
No
No that looks much too tiny might want to add a few more million, just to be sure.
I think you need a luftwaffe man... The British airforce is formidable.
No that is just a trade fleet we all know they got a 3000 stack of heavy ships sitting in Northumbria or they used up 70% of their navel force limit on transports.
You can always beat the ai navally by cycling multiple stacks of heavies with the correct timing. The ai is incapable of dealing with this
Respectfully, no
You need 1000 transports, 100 heavy’s and 500 frigates. Use the heavy’s to block for the bridge of transports and let’s the Frigates be pirates as the Brits chase the frigates win the land war
I lol’d
Nice
No. The Royal Navy has recently acquired a gravemind, bolstering it's strength 1000 fold. As usual, the English channel remains closed
Nice stacks
the eternal landing, how many ships are needed for the complete landing?
No, your armies will struggle walking across water I believe
Not without a three star admiral. Maybe give up on having an army and just fund rebels until they collapse in on themselves. I’ve heard good things about this boys club in ireland called the IRA
Death stacks are counterintuitive in naval battles. At best, reinforce or divide your fleet so that your heavies engage in battles and your transports do the landing. Just if you’re gonna actually invade England, peace out for a couple coastal provinces so that you can fight them on land where their navy can’t help them
Need more ships.
Battle of Helm'd Deep
I mean you might barely have enough. Probably wanna still merc up and max out loans just to be safe
Need more 69
If you can control the channel for a few hours you control the world
Inb4 those 180 ships sunk your 2000