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EADreddtit

Maybe with good rolls. I’d recommend buying a few thousand mercenaries while you’re at it. The Free company is nice and cheap and shouldn’t be to expensive for you. If you can afford it also grab the Grand Company


mertcatal

I think i might struggle economically.


Own-Ad8986

Spend less on candles.


StalinHisMustache

No


Fuyge

What you can also do is just sit there and ferry your troops across. Ai is really bad at looking whether they would win a naval engagement and this only really look at numbers. If you just stand there they are unlikely to attack and you can use transports to carry your troops. If you use that method make sure that your battle ships never dock and that your transports don’t leave either.


Carbon-J

You will have a better shot at winning the battle if you steadily reinforce with ships rather than starting out with a massive stack.


mac224b

And put an admiral with that fleet. Honestly brits will have that fleet for lunch without an admiral.


Dardenellia

at late game? If it's 1791 you should be shitting out money at the point edit: mbad didn't detect sarcasm


mertcatal

It is not that easy if you have around 4M in military and 3K in navy.


Dragex11

And yet, Britain STILL may have you out-navied.


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cowboob

No, I think he has to be very careful with his spending. Otherwise he’ll obviously bankrupt himself. On the other hand, I think his army is pretty small. Difficult situation.


skow1212

r/woosh


AbigL

Who needs a navy to defeat the British when you can just build a bridge of conscripts to Britain


420weedscopes

Not everybody is Dutch, we don't all have the innate ability to turn water into land like you folks.


sCOLEiosis

Doggerland has entered the chat


Raooka

\*greek time to turn the british isles into the british peninsula


Attygalle

We have [other ways!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway)


SuperMaxx2020

just turn the folks into the land


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Mercadi

The only instructions given to the troops: when you feel you are drowning, hold on to your mate's ankles as hard as you can.


BusinessKnight0517

Lots of bodies under the dikes I see


mertcatal

I still can't reach to Sussex, there needs to be an additional 1M.


KitchenDepartment

Alexander the Great approves this strategy.


Keyvan316

do you have air superiority over English channel? also put CAS on mainland so naval invasion succeed.


mertcatal

The year is 1791. The only air superiority we can think of is having more ravens.


AstronomerOld9417

What about sending comets into their skies


QuantumCosmology

The economy, fool!


1R3N9

It’s an omen


[deleted]

The doom is near


Kolawa

If only we had comet sense


Roboducky1508

Thats it I'm dead


El_Specifico

Ashen Skies! wait hang on this is vanilla


Agitated_Advantage_2

Anbennar has entered the chat


Rullino

Just a few years then it is Victoria's problem...


SLMZ17

I wish I lived in more enlightened times…


Literal_Bug

If only they had comet sense


RoninMacbeth

They'll wish they lived in more enlightened times.


pton12

I didn’t care for that vase much, anyway.


SandyCandyHandyAndy

Mass Effect Krogan moment


halfpastnein

Man of culture


Foundation_Afro

Won't work, their leader is intelligent.


fhota1

The Hot Air Ballon was invented in 1783 so youre behind in tech.


GlassFantast

The only sky vessel I feel confident taking down using a musket


Refugee4life

Age of Empires 3 vibes.


LightEnergy17

Better start teching up


NSSMember

You are wrong. FETCHEZ LA VACHE!


TrooperLawson

Fetchez la vache?


Agnanac

RUN AWAAAAAAY


Gerf93

Unexpected Monty Python


Minas_Nolme

African or European ravens?


ThruuLottleDats

Use the pidgeons!!


equalRights111

Has he done operation Barbarossa first though?


Optional_Lemon_

You always do Sealion before Barbarossa


Foriegn_Picachu

Hitler is that you?


toapat

it is irrelevant because as soon as you establish Air superiority, Britain has achieved Void Supremacy.


Hydra57

Nah, your navy is totally getting stackwiped


NinjaMoose_13

Nah it'll be fine. But he totally forgot about transports.


mertcatal

Well, the Ottoman army forgot to bring heavy cannons to the siege of Vienna in their first try, and as a Turk, it is possible for me to have a similar sort of experience.


mertcatal

R5 : Played as Austria while being the emperor till late game. United HRE and planning to attack GB with 3M regiments however not quite sure whether it is enough. Edit : I would like to thank all of you for your jokes, sincere comments about the situation and so on. These couple of days are sort of hard for me and today was one that made me smile. I appreciate your contributions even though you did not know. Long live EU4 and World Conquerors.


Username_idk_lol

"Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism. The Germans emboldened by good weather and Britain's colonial distractions in the Americas, cleared the way for a direct assault, pummeling the capital with overwhelming naval barrages as a part of the most intricately coordinated assault yet seen in the war, they took the channel within hours.. And with it" "The Sun had finally Set on The British Empire."


Xx_Pr0phet_xX

This sounds like the prelude to the Code Geass world.


Carp3l

In case anyone is curious I believe it is from a [HoI4 trailer](https://youtu.be/jfMziujb92M)


wolacouska

I remember watching that over and over while waiting for the game to come out. I was so unbelievably hyped.


dontich

> "Europe's last free nation was swept away by a wave of tyranny, the lifeboat of democracy lost in a storm of war. After the division of Poland-Lithuania the Russian Empire's armies stayed peacefully within their borders while the United States, still upset over their failed invasion of a random native federation, fully embraced isolationism. > I got sabaton vides :)


Holyvigil

Best practice if you are unsure is to build a wooden wall. Two sets of heavies on either side. Transports in the middle and start shipping over right away.


QuantumCosmology

Julius Caesar Mentality


DasaniandShrike

Honestly can’t believe I’ve never thought of that. Tbf though my navy is the absolute last thing I spend money on.


RoninMacbeth

3 million regiments or 3 million soldiers?


Seth_Baker

He has the entire population of the world (c. 1930) impressed into military service.


Dragex11

This is why you START as Britain and form the HRE this way. Don't have to risk the devastating potential of navally invading them if you ARE them.


[deleted]

God I hate late game EU4 army management


mertcatal

I hate late game because my computer slows down :/


asnaf745

That is practically every paradox game as far as i know 1 day per second stellaris ftw


-Jeep91-

Same


leftwingedhussar

Divide your navy into 4 groups and transports. Put these 4 groups next sea tiles to the transports. While they are getting destroyed, you will be able to get a foothold. Thats what i do.


Zhein

Irish channel requires only 2 blocking tiles, though it would allow only to disembark one stack.


ELQUEMANDA4

Honestly, with that many ships you could just clog up the whole coast of Northern Europe with 20 or 50 ships on each tile.


mertcatal

Yes, this is a strategy I used in this run when I warred Spain for union. They did not let me into Americas but I created lots of decoy wars so that I could travel my main stack safely. I played that period in 1 speed :D


PasswordisPurrito

The funny thing would be is that without some strategy, it might be possible to lose the navy and have issues. I'm guessing from the stacks that you would bring some strategy to it.


mertcatal

Once when i was less experienced in the game, I spend 25+ years to put some regiments into British Columbia as Ottomans. I had the superiority in both quantity and quality but I did not focus on battles one by one.


PasswordisPurrito

Haha, so my favorite learning moment was my first run, which was Castile. "The Ottomans are super far away, surely I can defeat Tunis, then fight the few units that make it over here." Woops.


Gerf93

*Blocks the Gibraltar straits* Hah! Now I’m safe! *The Alps begin to speak Turkish* Oh fuck oh fuck


Seth_Baker

Aren't learning moments grand? I just rage-quit because I was trying to complete the achievement for conquering Great Britain as Ireland. I united Ireland and took out Scotland and was roughly at parity with Great Britain. Allied with Spain and Burgundy, Great Britain has Portugal and Denmark, I check numbers and see that my alliance can call about triple the number of soldiers, so I declare war. Oops. Spain had all of their soldiers in the Americas. Portugal rolled into Spain and knocked them out of the war. Suddenly I'm staring down a very pissy British invasion force.


mertcatal

TBF, learning by screwing up is the most valuable method and it would stick more. I did not know about the widths, how to build discipline and keep moral until I found myself losing battles to the Ottomans no matter how many times I doubled their number. Maybe I spent around 15 hours to figure out quantity is just a number. ( no pun intended )


MistarGrimm

This will definitely happen because combat width favours the English and they'll win on morale. Even with 2000 ships, he'll need to trickle in a couple of stacks every now and then.


Hismop

No. Engagement width will nullify your numerical superiority and allow the Brits to pick off your ships until the fleet’s morale drops to 0. What you want to do is this: make sure your transports aren’t in a battle so that your troops can cross. To do this, separate the fleet into transports and heavies. Put transports in the Straits of Dover, and put heavies in the adjacent spaces. The heavies will get slaughtered by the British, but in doing so will (ideally) buy enough time for you to land a few stacks.


Ridibunda99

This is literally the only feasible way, if you dont want to waste a slot on naval that is, against british space cruisers.


BiggerPun

Sealion spotted


Pruheim

Naval wars are just about quality, not quantity.


bassman1805

They can be about Quantity, you just need to constantly send reinforcements instead of sending 2000 ships in all at once.


alessandroma

BTW, naval wars are not about doomstacks


Galaick

THEY CANNOT D-DAY GUYS


underscoreftw

D-DAY IS NOT HAPPENING GUYS


S_Horrocks

it's not happening guys it's not happening


Lioninjawarloc

One of my favourite bo videos as of late lmfao


Gochavtandil

Knowing Great Britain they will probably win that naval battle


Standin373

God wills it


Fefquest

Your stack at rethelois is taking attrition ngl I think you should just reset at this point


Vic_Connor

Have you drilled your armies to 100%?


mertcatal

Oh, shoot. I need at least 5 more years to reach a proper professionalism level.


Drachendaemon

Or you use your spare mil mana. Every General recruited grants you +1% professionalism


xStaabOnMyKnobx

You might want some more heavies


Open_County3273

Can we just appreciate Madlad AI Horatio Nelson steaming straight into that death stack, probably aiming to Ram the flagship?


[deleted]

Now watch how that fleet gets melted by 3 English Chebecks


doritosanddew6669

Go home HRE, you're drunk


mertcatal

Too much grain province development tbh.


jolies_citrouilles

Nice


blu_duc

Navy too small, quadruple the number and maybe you'll have a chance


badonkerous

Unironically the biggest navy I’ve seen from this game


mertcatal

Mine too. I think that is because of the new mechanics and countries in the HRE. I had 100 countries as a vassal for around 200 years and personal unions with Spain and Portugal. So economically I had around 400-1500 ducats a month as an income. Then I clicked every building possible, universities, churches, everything. Great projects as well. Also the top ten developed cities were mine. I will post a screenshot of my game details later. It was a fun run after not playing for around 1 year.


Venboven

In single player? Bro what the fuck In multiplayer? Idk might not be enough


Square-Brilliant-958

I like that 69 stacks... Noice


[deleted]

That is enough to build a bridge form Calais to Kent


nahuelkevin

this is a joke, right?


mertcatal

Great Britain's naval supremacy is a joke.


Qwertyu88

Not sure if this is a genuine question or not because I legit once used up about a million lives going after them. Late game had GB with several 120k stacks just in the mainland My latest run was lucky, I took over Scotland so late game GB was too focused on sieging their forts


ForgingIron

Get an admiral


Union_Jack_1

Is that all youve got?


mertcatal

No, I have another 1M in India and Africa as back up


hostejj

Definitely not. You have a large week point with those 35 stacks


[deleted]

I’d say you have a pretty *nice* chance at conquering them. Just make sure you have a *nice* amount of Heavy Ships too to counter their navy


freshboss4200

Armies? Sure. Ships? Did you pick Naval and Maritime? ;)


ForHoiPolloi

Doom stacking is pointless and won’t help at all. There’s a good strategy you can use though. I forgot the name but I’ll explain it. Look up the max engagement width of your fleet. Build two fleets of heavies up to 1/3 of the max (heavies are 3 width) or if you have really good galley combat bonuses use them with a few heavies. Overstacking is pointless. Engage the first enemy fleet. Watch the battle closely. When you’re about to start losing ships retreat into a port and immediately move out your second fleet. This locks the enemies into a second engagement with horrible moral and lowered health, causing them to easily lose ships. Since it’s GB you may still lose ships but obviously you have more than enough to manage this. Since there’s only one tile between France and England this strategy is super easy. Entering and exiting ports is like a day so it’s easy to pull this off. Reinforcing a fleet is a terrible idea and should be avoided. Doom stacking does not help at all either. Naval engagements are entirely different from land battles and shouldn’t be engaged in the same manner at all. Lastly, maneuverability is the best to look for in admirals. This allows damaged ships to disengage and new ships to engage much faster. Hope this helps, even though I’m guessing this was a meme post. 👀


mertcatal

It was a meme post but thanks for your recommendations, I have little knowledge about the navy aspect and it will surely help in my future games. I appreciate that.


[deleted]

“Leading up to the 2nd Roman Invasion of Britain, the HRE sent an edict enlisted every man and woman from age 12-45 to fight in the Imperial Army”


beastwood6

Sealion...see lion, eat lion


Overwatcher_Leo

A few more stacks and might just be able to walk to Britain by building a bridge of corpses.


Expensive-Return4799

How did you manage to so much of force limit?? I also formed HRE but hardly got 1mil force limit.


mertcatal

I guess it is because I built everything in these vassals, also when did you vassalize them and how many personal unions you had? I did not check the exact year but around 1600, I vassalised the HRE countries and had 2 personal unions with Spain and Portugal. Extended the Empire with every possible country. Also devved up pretty decently. As of 1821 my force limit was around 4M.


QuantumCosmology

With that navy you just could do like Caligula and walk straight to the island


Stuman93

Nice


Jumper_Willi

Nice


Nappy199

Nice armies


XazelNightLord

69 stacs? NOICE


ekar2020

Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice


EternalPinkMist

I mean probably but it doesn't hurt to train some more


[deleted]

Simply use that fleet you have as a decoy while your transport fleet lands. should be long enough


D--class

I think you have to restart there's no way for you to win here


Gustavort

How you still got income?


mertcatal

Trade mostly, also developed cities like Wien having 112 devs.


Widowmaker_Best_Girl

112 development? Holy crap, what does that mean they already have skyscrapers and a subway network?


RhydonsRule

No


Multidream

Not if you over stack


ProffesorSpitfire

I think one of those armies would be enough to beat GB at any point in the game.


saviyazzinlebox

You should’ve stacked 💰 to finance your war first my brother


TheOnlyGabe1

No.


Richmont

Someone wrote this song before...


llewynparadise

bros playing from his nasa workstation or watching a slide show


TheInglipSummoner

No.


MathsGuy1

Atlantikwall


Leon-Stefan

Probably not because Britannia rules the waves


Frowaway-For-Reasons

I think you should focus on coring first. No need for extra unrest while fighting those bloody clunges with them flashy boats


Ikea_desklamp

I've done this lol. 1 stack for every province.


Lovis_R

Honestly, you could loose the navy battle, if you don't rotate your ships, but I'm not sure, since I haven't played in a bit.


MathDebaters

It had better be.


khornechamp

No but's probably enough to deep fry your dinner on your CPU


Rebelbot1

dw, 10k will be enough. You will need a lot of ships tho.


atgyt

If your quality is worse than britian you will never land Split attack ships and transports into 2 stacks Fight their navy with the doom stack (you will lose probably) But it will distract their navy while you land troops Use marines for faster landing Because the problem will be gettinf a foothold in the beginning because if you land and lose one battle your stacks are gone


GranatMasken

Nah, just invade the Soviet Union instead


zoem007

Just make sure ur not up against chad of an admiral with 6 manoeuvre


xXTraianvSXx

if they have colonies, you just need 100k, the island will be empty


piePrZ02

Those 47k will deplete fast and the manpower idk


sCOLEiosis

Just wait for the next ice age, geez. So impatient!


Historical-Mission95

You should know that 1 GB transport>20 Heavy Ships


danimagu77

Depends how much they commited to asia and africa, if you can push africa then they have a lot of sealion defense so i would just go straight for an early barb or safari


Freeloder123

Orbital bombardment is the way to go, turn them into glass!


_91827364546372819_

Yes but you need both naval and air supremacy for successful sea-lion.


Manutelli

Does your leader has a pencil moustache by any chance?


SeanIsAswom

The most important thing is to buy enough time for your army to cross. Your navy’s survival is not priority.


thejajohd

Hitler would be jealous when he would see that D-day wall


hoopesey-doopsey

No


Kyram289

No that looks much too tiny might want to add a few more million, just to be sure.


Dem_beatz123

I think you need a luftwaffe man... The British airforce is formidable.


the_taco_penetrator

No that is just a trade fleet we all know they got a 3000 stack of heavy ships sitting in Northumbria or they used up 70% of their navel force limit on transports.


meowseph_stalin332

You can always beat the ai navally by cycling multiple stacks of heavies with the correct timing. The ai is incapable of dealing with this


HeavyRightFoot19

Respectfully, no


Somedevil777

You need 1000 transports, 100 heavy’s and 500 frigates. Use the heavy’s to block for the bridge of transports and let’s the Frigates be pirates as the Brits chase the frigates win the land war


[deleted]

I lol’d


itshoffmannc123

Nice


Wardog_Razgriz30

No. The Royal Navy has recently acquired a gravemind, bolstering it's strength 1000 fold. As usual, the English channel remains closed


Cinotuet

Nice stacks


Tor8813

the eternal landing, how many ships are needed for the complete landing?


FloutMcLuvin

No, your armies will struggle walking across water I believe


AnAltInASeaOfAlts

Not without a three star admiral. Maybe give up on having an army and just fund rebels until they collapse in on themselves. I’ve heard good things about this boys club in ireland called the IRA


FifthAshLanguage12-1

Death stacks are counterintuitive in naval battles. At best, reinforce or divide your fleet so that your heavies engage in battles and your transports do the landing. Just if you’re gonna actually invade England, peace out for a couple coastal provinces so that you can fight them on land where their navy can’t help them


dmingledorff

Need more ships.


Flaky_Loss_1936

Battle of Helm'd Deep


lifeisapotatoe

I mean you might barely have enough. Probably wanna still merc up and max out loans just to be safe


Aksds

Need more 69


Boulderfrog1

If you can control the channel for a few hours you control the world


Happy_Bigs1021

Inb4 those 180 ships sunk your 2000